大数据发现转行成本很高,学非所用不是好事

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mjnew
楼主 (文学城)

https://www.edweek.org/teaching-learning/students-pay-a-growing-price-for-landing-a-job-outside-their-college-major/2023/04

 

The pay gap between college-educated workers in and out of their fields of study widened by more than half between 1993 and 2019, according to a new University of Kansas study. 

 

One of the things that we know is that occupations tend to be sticky. If your first job out of college is well-matched with what you studied, that tends to carry forward in terms of whatever future jobs you have over the course of your career。

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mjnew
文科娃转行是大忌,理工科转行也不灵。不要以为读研究生转行是好主意,大概率不灵。
槐花王
我也知道,还有DOUBLE MAJOR, TRIPLE MAJOR, 浪费
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xiaolifeidao
有道理。咱这辈子转了几次行。深有同感。
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mjnew
似乎女娃读理工不利

For example, many schools have made a concerted effort to engage more students in science, technology, engineering, and mathematics. But, the study found computer science and engineering graduates—particularly women—paid a bigger mismatch penalty than graduates in other fields like liberal arts. While more women are graduating in STEM fields today than in prior decades, women were less likely than men to end up getting jobs in those fields, in part because they were more likely to report worse work-life balance or fewer chances for promotion.

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mjnew
还是咱提供的信息得到共鸣啊
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mjnew
估计M毕业的女娃10年后比M毕业的同专业男娃收入差不少
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xiaolifeidao
咱从有自己独立办公室,到一个特大的cube, 到和一堆人坐在一个房间里。哈哈
闲聊一二
马上要有人来骂你俗,只会向钱看了

比如我就来了,哈哈

1,即使女孩在理工方面有不利因素,是统计上的事实。但人家有些人是真爱,不是冲钱来的

2,即使有不利,但对一些女娃,这就是她们最适合的方面了,去别的领域,也许平均来说女娃有优势,但对这部分女娃,可能劣势更大

所以,不要替人家担心

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yzhl888
所有能量聚焦一点,当然是最高效的,可能几焦能量就能毁灭点啥。但问题是你找到焦点了吗?找不到那个能拨动你自趋力的焦点,

不就是糊焦点吗?还有谁知你的焦点是在靶心中央,还是在三界,多界交汇点或者说三不管地带呢?遇到这类不就要多学科或者换专业吗?

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mjnew
你找到自己的焦点了吗?
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mjnew
你怎么知道所有人都有焦点?也许全世界有焦点的人只有1%
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mjnew
这里40万横行霸道好长时间了,没人说?
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yzhl888
可能大部分人都不够幸运能找到自己那个开启的按钮吧。但不表示没有
凊荷
主要看几个major

的相关性和是否都在一个field 都用得上。

剑于
Women in science and engineering

The reason is that women has no long term passion for science and engineering. They bolted out after a few years and turn to quality engineering, project management, etc. Women like me who still like to do true engineering are one of kind (凤毛菱角)。It's really bad investment for 左左藤校,cause mass majority of their women prodigies don't give a shit about engineering or science anymore. Poor 小中小印男who cares about engineering and science, their spots are ripped off. I wrote my observation five years ago in 文学城 after my son's college application (he was turned down by every his reach schools except one and some of his match school), lol.

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mjnew
都有可能。也许有,也许没有。时间不断在走。那么看样子你也没有找到
剑于
Also, I have been working as engineer for last 25 years.

Why am I the only one in R&D hardware group everywhere I went. I know in last two decades, STEM colleges man to woman ratio is almost 50-50.

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mjnew
喜欢和能力也不一定匹配。喜欢的,也许自己并不擅长,就做不好。能喜欢,又擅长,对上眼,不容易
闲聊一二
骂的人不要太多 LOL

藤的比例,在这个坛子要比矿工高多了,踩藤的都那么多,踩矿工的会少吗?

40万能够横行霸道?没觉得啊

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mjnew
比如男女爱情。男的喜欢,女的不见得喜欢。要双方一见钟情,概率就不高。再加上要维持爱情30年,就更难了。所以啥焦点对大多数
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mjnew
人来说,就是做梦
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yzhl888
是的,说到这,就是读私校的孩子可能找到的概率高些,毕竟小班加苏格拉底启发式教育可能唤醒孩子的本能
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mjnew
天天都有40万的帖子,商法医CS也是类似,这还算真性情的。说其他的,读大学还是基本为了毕业找个好工作,有啥区别?
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mjnew
多谢comment,very good observation
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mjnew
So women study STEM, but do not do STEM. 太可惜了
有言
深入到群众中去。-:)
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mjnew
这个也不同意,一点数据支持都没有。更大可能我说了,和爱情一样,双方一见钟情,还要维持30年,太少见了
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yzhl888
大数据是大数据,对个人来说就是0和1。起码小课更促使你思考,而大课更督促你随大流不要被除草
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Rockeymountain
我一直是product design里唯一的女性, 白女一般做几年就去做PM。

老中女几乎占领工程的主要地位。

公司R&D部门几乎都被外国移民占领, 女性里面基本都是老中女。

 

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xiaolifeidao
哈哈,现在拼桌。和老婆一起上班。WFH.
高山峻岭流水人家
同意。