VHRM here. Random Sophomore Ugrad emailed me about
"What math classes should I take?"
"What research did you as an undergraduate?"
"what are the best professors to get a reccomendation Letter from for PhD?"
The first question I told her that she should take up to real analysis and only take PhD micro If she can get an A. I also told her hard math classes are a good signal due to rigour and that what I told her was the minimum requirements, but it is better to do well on the minimum than screw up on classes beyond it.
Her response basically was "thanks I'm fine with only doing the minimum and keeping it safe"
She then asked me the second and third question and now I'm very very ticked off. I ask her what her interests are and why does she want to do research. I also tell her that rather than looking for specific professors she should try her best to impress people that she works with as an RA given she is at a VHRM.
She gives a very vague canned answer and I'm very lost with words. From my impression The girl seemed to think that research and getting in is something formulaic and clearly doesn't care about doing good work.
Checked her LinkedIn and saw she was a typical Asian female investment Banking striver.
I honestly want to tell her to btfo and tell her she shouldn't do a PhD with her attitude but am scared she'd complain to the upper ups if I do.
What scares me most is that there are people like her at VHRM cohorts who just become completely insufferable.
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VHRM here. Random Sophomore Ugrad emailed me about
"What math classes should I take?"
"What research did you as an undergraduate?"
"what are the best professors to get a reccomendation Letter from for PhD?"
The first question I told her that she should take up to real analysis and only take PhD micro If she can get an A. I also told her hard math classes are a good signal due to rigour and that what I told her was the minimum requirements, but it is better to do well on the minimum than screw up on classes beyond it.
Her response basically was "thanks I'm fine with only doing the minimum and keeping it safe"
She then asked me the second and third question and now I'm very very ticked off. I ask her what her interests are and why does she want to do research. I also tell her that rather than looking for specific professors she should try her best to impress people that she works with as an RA given she is at a VHRM.
She gives a very vague canned answer and I'm very lost with words. From my impression The girl seemed to think that research and getting in is something formulaic and clearly doesn't care about doing good work.
Checked her LinkedIn and saw she was a typical Asian female investment Banking striver.
I honestly want to tell her to btfo and tell her she shouldn't do a PhD with her attitude but am scared she'd complain to the upper ups if I do.
What scares me most is that there are people like her at VHRM cohorts who just become completely insufferable.
Generalize it too much.
Apparently there are some Asian people like this case. The prof's comments are a bit stereotyping, but not to much extent.
凭空长出一根长柄有点强人所难了
有意思吗?还看了人家的linked in就断定是typical whatever。。。。
现在从藤校申请,到找工作在花街咨询本身就是提倡这种文化,非怪罪到一个年轻孩子头上,十几年的饭真是白吃了。。。
干嘛老要insult别的要读的娃呢。
人智力有高低,是不是很不明白有些人做一般的工作太boring跟慢性自杀一般。
人的能力也不一样,也不是人人都想写完code再喜欢往上爬当领导。
怪谁啊?还不是这些装模作样,只看表面 charisma 不看 substances, 越来越肤浅的T5 吗?你真的在课堂上鼓励说真心话吗?你自己相信言者无罪吗?切!
所以领导在关键时刻怂了。
LinkedIn当然可以看出一个人是不是合适,不然要简历干嘛。
总给这些人开脱找借口。一个大二的学生写信请求帮助,不愿意帮忙不帮就完了,还发这种东西到公共论坛,可见心里不满挺久了。
Graduate school interview 的目的就是把纸面上的high achiever,但没有curiosity, look for formular的申请者筛掉。那个学生的问题 2-3 made it very clear that she is unfit for PhD.
这样的人无处不在,不要为他们费神,ignore them and move on。世界上还是好人多。我家孩子第一年碰到的教授mentor都是非常给力帮忙,我一个成年人都觉得他们工作已经那么忙,还愿意帮助一个大一的孩子,做role model,很是敬佩。也告诉孩子以后自己年长有经验了,也要同样回馈。
确实是,这种背后贬低学生的做法,不是好教授所为,不论学生问了什么问题。
good luck with that.
misguided by their ignorant parents...
告诉她不去读PhD 是帮她省几年的时间
女生尤其亚裔女生去IB就太正常不过了。这个女生在考虑读博很好啊。这教授到底想这学生怎么回答他的问题呢?
是想要学生说,告诉我最难的课是什么?等我拿了A以后我再来问问题?
此学生问的问题在本坛经常看到lol
也许这点惹毛了这个教授?骑着马还找马。这教授将心比心一想,这学生不能要。
都已经做研究了还问这种问题,是不是说明这学生的确是对研究没兴趣,脑子里只想着走安全程式达到“成功”。这的确是很多high achievers 的问题。一路就是这么上来的。总有个程序可以follow。就比如如何“爬藤”。思维已经程式化了。
羞辱ridicule. 而且女孩子问的问题像是有意朝PhD方向发展的,也是因为教授是走过PhD这条路的前辈才来请教。况且那女孩真要一门心思去investment banking,也不会那么认真仔细选数学课去craft出PHD 需要的课程表成绩单。如果老师觉得女孩不是料子,完全可以明说或者暗示,何必如此不屑一顾的贬人。更别说一心做banker的和一心做学术的也说不上谁精神上更高尚一点,或者未来物质上谁更丰富一点,这教授哪里来的高高在上的藐视与不屑。满满的只有心胸上的狭隘,为人上的差劲,又酸又臭。
它也是社会,啥人都有,要会识人。
不再能感受到兴趣是什么,也不再有激情跟着自己的心走
那就走大家都走看得见摸得着的成功路线。不会失败。也不用多想。
又想读博士又不真的想做科研的,可能很容易印象深刻(毕竟就是悖论),进而generalize。。。
是不是?
问这种愚蠢的问题, 不是找抽吗?
我们一次在巴黎的一个饭店吃饭,边上桌子2个亚裔投行女娃,一个yale的,一个大猫的,2人从头到尾都在议论怎么吸引投行里的男孩注意,还有钱的多少,2个多小时啊!人得多肤浅才能那样。
如果那些教授不敢说,并不代表他们不这么想。说出来,其实是好事。现在什么的政治正确,谁都不敢说真话,那个才是悲哀。