我闺女非常内向（中学时社交圈子很小, 而且很怕和 authority 谈话), 放弃一些 Big-name schools （包括 Cornell）去念 Harvey Mudd。 因为她爱写作， 录取后去看学校时就特别和校刊的团队混熟。 一入学就进校报，发表了几篇文章建议学校改善对学生的一些服务， 也因此被选为Class Presiedent。 二年级开始就当校报的 editor-in-chief。 后来她又参加一些clubs （比如Physics Club和 Rock Climbing Club）， 周末有时还和教授去 Hiking。 每学期都有机会与学生会的干部一齐和校长进晚餐。CS读得也可以过得去，从一年级开始每年都有大厂的Internship， 第一年去西雅图，第二年去 Google，今年summer去 Stripe。While an intern at Google, she moderated an Intern Leadership Speaker Series talk with Dr. Vint Cerf, father of the Internet and Google’s Chief Internet Evangelist. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vint_Cerf 我很高兴她选择了 Mudd。LACs 非常适合内向娃, providing them with the environment to flourish.
如果对泥巴有兴趣， 一定要 visit campus。Some kids love it， 但有些孩子不喜欢那么小的学校， 虽然5C合起来有6，7千学生。
your kid shouldhave applied to Tulane Uni-- more challenging
than Mudd So, what is the acceptance rate at Tulane University? 11% The Tulane University acceptance rate is just 11%. The slim Tulane acceptance rate comes from the school's widespread acclaim. The Tulane University ranking is #42 among national universities.
About 4 years ago, 47 graduates out of its graduating class of 196 went to grad schools or professional schools (such as law and medicine) immediately upon graduation (4 to MIT and 6 to Stanford).
I read on Quora that for the first 40 years of the school, roughly 40% of its graduates eventually received a PHD or an equivalence. Lately (in the last 15 years), the percentage of its graduates who immediately attend grad schools upon graduation has declined to about 23% to 25% because of the high cost of college education and the high salaries its graduates can earn.
(d) Student mental health issue due to heavy course load and stress. The school has taken steps in the past few years to improve in this area. For example, its core curriculum has been updated.
A few positives of attending Harvey Mudd: (A) The school is very safe and so is the city of Claremont, (B) Good southern California climate (a bit hot in the summer but Claremont has a lot of trees), (C) Small classes (except CS introductory classes), (D) A nurturing environment plus caring & accessible professors who are really good at teaching, (E) Shared resources (cafeterias, libraries, and sport facilities) with other Claremont colleges. (F) Mudd students make friends with students from and attend events (talks, concerts, parties, etc) in other Claremont colleges, which are all within 15-minute walking distance from Harvey Mudd. (G) 找工作找 Intern 学校十分给力，很多公司去campus receruit.
Biased samples pool! Who would fill the parchment except
Cal residents? In other words, the applicants (only Cal residents) must apply to both schools to compare-- Such comparison reflects more economic status, convenience, and job opporunities, rather than academic excellence.
For Out-of-state applicants, they even do not know there is such a school (MUD).
For UCB, its popularity results from its graduate and postdoc programs-- Again, Out-of-state applicants barely apply to UCB. For instance, Texans may choose Ivies, M, S, Caltech. The next would be Rice, UT Austin, Texas A&M before they even consider UCB (if any).
UCB is a great place for graduates/postdocs, though!
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parchment这里很多人在用，我也是这里看到的。你不用你就不看咯。不看有这么难吗？又没有和你在说瞎起劲什么？
你说的有道理，parchment 很好，但是具体得看哪个州的。Virginia的选择是
Ivies, M, S, Caltech,
the next would be UVA, Duke, CMU, William & Mary, ...
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如果喜欢，加州去也挺好。康村对加州学生太远，太冷
暑假冷冷清清，我家就把pomona 见光死了。
我闺女非常内向（中学时社交圈子很小, 而且很怕和 authority 谈话), 放弃一些 Big-name schools （包括 Cornell）去念 Harvey Mudd。 因为她爱写作， 录取后去看学校时就特别和校刊的团队混熟。 一入学就进校报，发表了几篇文章建议学校改善对学生的一些服务， 也因此被选为Class Presiedent。 二年级开始就当校报的 editor-in-chief。 后来她又参加一些clubs （比如Physics Club和 Rock Climbing Club）， 周末有时还和教授去 Hiking。 每学期都有机会与学生会的干部一齐和校长进晚餐。CS读得也可以过得去，从一年级开始每年都有大厂的Internship， 第一年去西雅图，第二年去 Google，今年summer去 Stripe。While an intern at Google, she moderated an Intern Leadership Speaker Series talk with Dr. Vint Cerf, father of the Internet and Google’s Chief Internet Evangelist.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vint_Cerf
我很高兴她选择了 Mudd。LACs 非常适合内向娃, providing them with the environment to flourish.
如果对泥巴有兴趣， 一定要 visit campus。Some kids love it， 但有些孩子不喜欢那么小的学校， 虽然5C合起来有6，7千学生。
因为申请它的学生 are kind of self-selected.
我家康和泥巴都进了, 小孩自己感到泥巴比较难进.
我家外向小中男暑假去看了pomona and hm，后来无论如何不肯去。
what is Mudd? where is it? 2-year community college; or 4-year local school?
先 Visit Campus 再决定.
5C 的学生互动还是蛮多的。我小孩有不少Pomona和 Scripps的朋友， 曾到 Pomona和Scripps 修一些文科， 也常到不同的 5C colleges 饭堂吃饭， 或参加concerts 和shows。运动方面， Pomona和Pitzer是一个team， 其他三间组成另一个team。5C的学生一起办一个报纸，叫做 “The Student Life”， 一南加州历史最悠久的大学学报。五校的Cafeterias， libraries， sport facilities 都是shared 的。
我家康和泥巴都进了, 小孩自己感到泥巴比较难进.
纽约好进的是contract colleges，eng 纽约娃一样不容易。
than Mudd So, what is the acceptance rate at Tulane University? 11% The Tulane University acceptance rate is just 11%. The slim Tulane acceptance rate comes from the school's widespread acclaim. The Tulane University ranking is #42 among national universities.
有孩子来回都在纽约玩一玩，所以并不觉得难。最难的是感恩节
绝大部分人不会想到报泥巴，他就招几个人，比较录取率没太大意义。
Harvey Mudd is known for the following:
(1) Its student have access to take classes from other Claremont Colleges:
https://www.hmc.edu/admission/discover/claremont-colleges/#:~:text=There%20is%20no%20limit%20on,also%20be%20taken%20at%20Mudd
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claremont_Colleges
(2) One of the biggest STEM PhD feeder schools:
https://www.thecollegesolution.com/50-schools-that-produce-the-most-science-and-engineering-phds-2/
About 4 years ago, 47 graduates out of its graduating class of 196 went to grad schools or professional schools (such as law and medicine) immediately upon graduation (4 to MIT and 6 to Stanford).
I read on Quora that for the first 40 years of the school, roughly 40% of its graduates eventually received a PHD or an equivalence. Lately (in the last 15 years), the percentage of its graduates who immediately attend grad schools upon graduation has declined to about 23% to 25% because of the high cost of college education and the high salaries its graduates can earn.
(3) Its graduates are among the best paid:
https://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report
(4) One of the schools with the highest SAT scores (though it may no longer matter given the current political climate):
https://blog.prepscholar.com/colleges-with-highest-sat-scores
(5) Academic rigor
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/02/the-10-schools-where-students-study-the-most.html
Midterms/quizes at 9 o'clock Sunday night are not uncommon.
I personally believe that the above list should have included at least MIT and Princeton.
Is Harvey Mudd College more difficult than Harvard?
https://www.quora.com/Is-Harvey-Mudd-College-more-difficult-than-Harvard
The downsides of attending Harvey Mudd:
(a) The school does not have a big name like MIT, Caltech, or Berkeleys.
Don't be disappointed when people say they never heard of it.
(b) A small alumni network (though a close-knit one).
(c) The school is among the most expensive colleges in the US but it is not generous with FA due to
its relatively small endowment.
Here is a list of the most expensive colleges in the US:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/244041/most-expensive-colleges-in-the-us/#:~:text=Most%20expensive%20colleges%20in%20the%20U.S.%202019%2D2020&text=In%20the%20school%20year%202019,costs%20plus%20room%20and%20board.
Here is a list of the richest colleges (endownment per student):
http://https://www.collegeraptor.com/college-rankings/details/EndowmentPerStudent/
Harvey Mudd is ranked at 56th while Pomona is at 7th, and Brown is at 52nd.
(d) Student mental health issue due to heavy course load and stress.
The school has taken steps in the past few years to improve in this area.
For example, its core curriculum has been updated.
A few positives of attending Harvey Mudd:
(A) The school is very safe and so is the city of Claremont,
(B) Good southern California climate (a bit hot in the summer but Claremont has a lot of trees),
(C) Small classes (except CS introductory classes),
(D) A nurturing environment plus caring & accessible professors who are really good at teaching,
(E) Shared resources (cafeterias, libraries, and sport facilities) with other Claremont colleges.
(F) Mudd students make friends with students from and attend events (talks, concerts, parties, etc)
in other Claremont colleges, which are all within 15-minute walking distance from Harvey Mudd.
(G) 找工作找 Intern 学校十分给力，很多公司去campus receruit.
Biggest feeders to silicon valley (per undergrad enrollment):
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-tech
Best Colleges for Computer Science by Money Magazine:
https://money.com/best-colleges/rankings/best-computer-science-colleges/
冬天就三个月，其他时候，校园都太漂亮了，特别喜欢。
泥巴和各种文理学院是为上中产阶层不愿意孩子在公校太竞争而准备的。
就这距离都可以从家开到mudd了。
但是要在东部混可能会有一些东部人都不熟悉这个学校，这是不利点尽管理工都是要靠功夫。
对加州的来说，除非理工申请不到UCB，才会考虑Cornell。如果两个都申请到的话，大多数最后都会选择UCB的理工而放弃Cornell。UCB的理工比Cornell强很多，加州州内学费便宜，加州气候环境等等都和康没的比的呀。不值得花这么多钱在私校学费上。
再说康其实并没有通常认为的适当尺寸的私校的福利，学生少教授直接接触学生教学质量精的优势，康的校园文化其实和大公校没太大的差别，很多人都认为康是半个大公校是有原因的。
理工都不可能比Mudd好。
https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Brown+University&with=Duke+University
比Cornell也好不了多少。
https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Cornell+University&with=Duke+University
这里本来就是论坛，你有啥说就说呗，论坛大家都可以说话嘛？我都没明白你指的确实不好是啥意思？
Cal residents? In other words, the applicants (only Cal residents) must apply to both schools to compare-- Such comparison reflects more economic status, convenience, and job opporunities, rather than academic excellence.
For Out-of-state applicants, they even do not know there is such a school (MUD).
For UCB, its popularity results from its graduate and postdoc programs-- Again, Out-of-state applicants barely apply to UCB. For instance, Texans may choose Ivies, M, S, Caltech. The next would be Rice, UT Austin, Texas A&M before they even consider UCB (if any).
UCB is a great place for graduates/postdocs, though!
to MIT.
Ragarding UCB and Mudd? Haha- see my post above!
杜克和Cornell这里有什么好说的？都看不到你的逻辑？
哦。 似乎明白了。怪不得你们都黑里白里的胡说八道藤怎么好怎么高，原来都是藤的家长护藤来着。哪个藤的家长就带着哪个藤的标签为哪藤说话？所以这个坦才变得这么的没有了正义。藤就是墨索里尼总是高的。其他学校都没有发言权，得朝藤拜着，否则藤家长就这幅德性骂人贬人 不让人说话？
这个是什么坦呀？子女教育？应该先家长教育教育自己吧？
你说的有道理，parchment 很好，但是具体得看哪个州的。Virginia的选择是
Ivies, M, S, Caltech,
the next would be UVA, Duke, CMU, William & Mary, ...