请教个floor jacks and jack stands 的问题?

老车
楼主 (文学城)

老车 2009 toyota highlanders, 车重大约在2.32吨。我有一个3吨的floor jack 和一对3吨的Jack stand。网上解释的3吨的一对jack stand 其实单个的能支撑1.5吨的重量。我可以用这些安全的支撑suv?钻车底下干活?

谢。

定居北美
我会floor jacks and jack stands 同时用。 如果有拆下的轮胎,也会放下面。多年前一师傅教导的。
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biglow
能,前提是找个平的场地,下去前晃晃车,看稳不稳。
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jassco
No. You need a jack stand that

is rated at 3 tons of each. 1.5T is too small. You don't have enough FOS (factor of safety). I have a 2011 Toyota Highlander. I use 3T of each. Also, my car is partially supported by my jack.

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Oneshotkill
曾见有人讲,在车道上用多个支架支撑车辆,结果邻居喝醉了轻轻撞了一下。。。。突发地震呢?who can who up.

打嘴炮向来不乏人头,命是自己的,who life who care

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jassco
Using multiple jack stands is an invitation

to disasters.

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MoonRiverMe
Chat GPT说的和我的理解一样

我问:

Is Automotive jack stands weight limit the individual stand or two 

它答:

The weight limit on automotive jack stands is per stand, not combined.

 

For example, if a jack stand is rated for 3 tons (6,000 lbs), that means each stand can support up to 3 tons individually. When using two of them, they can together support up to 6 tons (12,000 lbs total) — assuming the weight is evenly distributed.

 

Always make sure:

 

You use jack stands in pairs. They’re placed on a flat, solid surface. The weight is centered properly across both stands.

 

 

Let me know if you’re working with a specific vehicle and I can help you figure out what rating you should look for.

 
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2ndGear
it should be fine

I've used 3 ton jack stand pairs for similarly weighted vehicles many times, no issues (RX350, MDX, RDX ...)  Jack in addition not required though not a bad idea for additional safety.

3 ton jack stand pair means each stand is rated for 1.5 tons for a total of 3 tons.

When using jack stand in pairs, part of the vehicle weight is on the remaining 2 wheels on the floor so not all of the 2.3 tons is on jack stands, maybe 2 tons at most?  You need 2 pairs (4 stands) to get the entire car off the floor, which you would would 6 tons total at that point.

Invest in a good jack stand pair, not all are created equal.

Jack on level floor is optimum, but sloped driveway can work if done properly, use common sense.

 

老车
多谢。对,我也是每次都两个Jack stands一起用。
老车
好,谢谢。
老车
对,这个就是我迷惑的地方。我可能需要再买两个Jack stand

我的两个是homedepot的huskey牌子的。3-ton的对于suv显的小,而6-ton的看起来又显的大。

老车
我可能就是想支起前边两个轱辘,换机油,换刹车等基本维护。

还没有把全车支起来。所以想问问3-ton的jack stand行不行,因为我理解只是支起车前端,可能3-ton(2个)能行?

谢谢大侠

老车
多谢,这个是我想知道的。

我可能只想把车前端支起来,干点力所能及的活。希望这个能行。多谢。

老车
jack stand 3-ton 是单个还是两个?

Chat GPT可能误导了?我google了一下, home depot里的解释是“ all jackstand are reted as a pair, 6000 pounds total, not per jackstand. common misunderstanding that hte rating is per jackstand, but read the fine print."

这就是我迷惑的地方, 3-ton的在suv车下,看起来是显的小;6-ton的看起来有太高,我的floor jack才是3-ton的,不知道能不能把suv支起那么高,以便放进去6-ton的Jack stand。多谢大侠。

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Oneshotkill
最佳方案是木头坡,使用支架的话,最好在LCA或BJ处垫实木墩,有条件在支架附近辅以实木墩【有人放轮胎,我不是很喜欢】。

实木墩至少6x6x12,辅以4x4或2x4,2/3由支架着力,1/3由实木墩着力,其他可不着力仅防备万一。

仅靠两个3吨支架很危险,没有备份支撑最好不要在车底下干活。

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MoonRiverMe
最准确的应该是厂家自己的说法而不是别人的翻译
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Shubin
如果只是换机油和刹车,觉得支起前面一侧应该就可以了,其余3个轮子需要用木方顶紧避免移动。
老车
谢谢老哥,这个实木墩(6x6x12,备份支撑)我可以在homedepot买木头做。

没在suv车下干过活,心里没底。以前是在轿车下干活,的确是把放个轮胎做“备份支撑”,像老哥说的,放的轮胎的顶端和车下面还有一小段距离,让人担心;这个实木墩方法不错。谢谢。

老车
好,多谢。
老车
好,谢谢大侠。我每次也是用两个jack stand。但手机放身边,这个是个好主意,以前没想到。
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dvdport
做了一对木头ramp, 详见此帖.

前一段时间做了一对木头ramp, 详见此帖.

http://blog.wenxuecity.com/myblog/70354/201708/7159.html

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wibblypig0
2009 Highlander有那么重? 查了下其curbbweight 3,979 to 4,321 lbs,不到2吨
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biglow
换机油换闸只需要支一个。
老车
好,谢谢。
老车
2009 toyota highlander Curb Weight 4100lbs~4650lbs。

2009 toyota highlander  Curb Weight. 4178 pounds, 4255 pounds, 4508 pounds, 4321 pounds, 4641 pounds

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XYZ3
Edmunds.com上面,配2.7升Engine的Curb Weight 3847lbs
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XYZ3
配3.5升Engine AWD Limited Trim level:4112 Lbs(Edmunds。com)
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jassco
Paying attention to weight capacity alone

is not enough. You also have to consider stability which is related to height and base size. Using a 3 ton jack stand, you have to raise it almost to its maximum height. Floor hardness (concrete vs asphalt) and level of the ground will affect its stability. When I tried my 3 ton jack under my Highlander (3.5L), I had to pull it up all the way. I did not feel comfortable, so I gave away my old jack and jack stands to a college student and bought a set of 6 tons. Anytime, I use my jackstands, I assume they may collapse. You don't want to assume they may be safe.

Please also keep in mind that front side of your car are much heavier than rear one.

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Shubin
轮胎上面再放2x4 和 2x6 木条就可以把那一小段距离填上了。
老车
好主意!谢。
老车
是。以前没想到车头会是车的大部分重量所在的地方。谢。
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iGarage
呵呵, 说起地震.......

我有次钻车底干活,还真发生地震,4.3级!在车底躺地下干活,一点感觉都没有。反而楼上的LD气汹汹的跑下来责问我干啥了,弄到房子咣铛地晃一下。我一脸懵然..... 事后才知道是发生了地震。

我当时在干个大活。用了四个3吨的jackstand(每边一主一副)把车头抬起,后轮上ramp上。当时还觉的奇怪,为何有一边的一个主stand有点滑位,副stand的顶紧了。

命大!

老车
感谢各位大侠。可能打算如果爬车底下,就做个木头坡;如果只动刹车等,就单边支一个轱辘。
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MoonRiverMe
OMG, 亿万分之一的机率