今天HR的人安排年度performance review. 我才知道我的review 将是由他及兼管的 Director 共同给我做, 心里很不舒服。我想警告他们我也不是没有要求的人， 必须对我有足够的respect, 但不知review 时该如何表达， 能否说这样的话： Honestly speaking, since our previous manager left the company, I feel that I am qualify to apply this position, at least in experience/technical wise I am the best person, but I did not apply since I love to be a developer and I am passionate in design and coding. Though being happy of being a developer, I want to be working happily in this environment. I hope I can be recognized and I would like to take more responsibilities.
Honestly speaking, since our previous manager left the company, I feel that I am qualify to apply this position, at least in experience/technical wise I am the best person, but I did not apply since I love to be a developer and I am passionate in design and coding.
关于recognized 是这样的： 组里新来的entry level 成员中有一位特别会说特别会表现，跟manager 沟通很多(尽管在我看来很浮浅好笑)，但白胖及老板好像都很喜欢他。所以我想说： As a first generation of immigrant, I still have a little language and culture barrier , plus our culture always encourages people to be humble , so sometimes I am not sure what is under communication and what is over communication. I hope management can judge each developer's technical level by the quality of the work s/he has delivered, and the problem solving ability , not just by talking 关于Take more responsibilities: Among our development team, I am the only person who have worked in several software companies before I join here, I have involved much bigger and complicated system than our application . I have bigger pictures and maybe better vision , I hope I can take some design work of our software ( 最可恨的是：那白胖子天天说他会design application) Also I want managers can trust me more, give me more authority to access our test/production environment ( 白胖子和目前老板连test environment 的password 都不告诉我）
关于 Raise I think the company is unpaid me, since my market value is $XXXX. But instead of asking more money, I hope company can give me more flexible working hours. I want to work xxx hours from home each week regularly
我猜想公司或许给他时间让他提高技术，他也想学， 但我知道 He will never ger there, he is not a program material.
我现在跟他已经不怎么好了。 因为他不想让我 involve 一些事情，和access 一些server。 有一次公司大头让我做一个feature， 我让他在写email时 include me in the loop, 这样我也可以听到feedback, 并参加讨论. 他也不这么做， 而是代表我向上面汇报， 这让我也不情愿帮他。
I hope management can judge each developer's technical level by the quality of the work s/he has delivered, and the problem solving ability.有点抱怨的意思啊，他们怎么judge你控制不了，所以不同提。 多用 postive tone
第二点：
Also I want managers can trust me more, give me more authority to access our test/production environment。直接提，如果给你这些access, 你可以为公司做什么，不要提什么trust这类词。 如果我是经理，我会觉得我哪里不trust你了
可是让我当manager， 成天开会， 伺候上上下下， 也是听stressful的。 我有很好的 skill set， 不用愁找不到工作。 可是我听说一旦manage 三个以上的人， 你就没法专心搞开发了， 所以我才认为对我来说， being a developer is the best thing
关于recognized 是这样的： As a first generation of immigrant, I still have a little language and culture barrier , plus our culture always encourages people to be humble , so sometimes I am not sure what you consider is under communicate and what is over communicate.
关于Take more responsibilities: Among our development team, I am the only person who have worked in several software companies before I join here, I have involved much bigger and complicated system than our application.
I hope I can take some design work of our software.
这是到目前为止第一句具体要求, 但要明确告诉他们你要做什么，怎么做： I'd like to take the design work of our project A, B or C. The disgn work can be accomplished by ......具体提出你的计划，一方面显示出了你的能力，一方面白纸黑字的留下证据，省得以后别人抢你的功。
Also I want managers can trust me more， give me more authority to access our test/production environment。
关于 Raise I am happy with my raise, thank you! But actually my market value shoud be more than this. But instead of asking more money, I hope company can give me more flexible working hours. I want to work xxx hours from home each week regularly.
Good post and discussion - Thanks for sharing....My thoughts
1. It is clear that you enjoy doing technical work and it is your strength. You didn’t express your interest and the other person did and started to help management work, the answer is clear who should be the manager between your two. I think you and the white fat guy (sorry have to follow the “name” you gave to the person) could be a good combination to work together since you are good at technical work and he is not but interested in managing people – he needs you unless you keep challenging him. Managing people could be stressful to you based on what you wrote in your post, especially since your kids are still young, why not just let him to take care of it for you.
2. If you really want to take more responsibilities, try not to mention you also want to work from home at the same time, one step at a time. After taking more responsibilities and working for a while until everything is under control, then gradually ask for work from home one or two days….Work from home is not helpful for you to get more responsibilities, at least not at the beginning, assuming you didn’t mean more pure technical work.
3. Try to use positive or neutral words, such as "judge" (more subjective) could be replaced by "evaluate" (more objective); Also try to avoid saying "don't trust" even it is true sometimes - Trust is earned. If you think people don’t trust you, then it could be your failure to earn. You could say that I believe they have some considerations not to grant me the access yet, I hope we can discuss it because I believe getting me access could have benefit A, B, C to the team….focus on the positive sides to support why you want to get access. 4. Try to think more about what you want to do and what you can do well career-wise with balancing your family commitments before your talk to people about taking more responsibilities and never underestimate the power of communication and people skills. I always need to think about these more by myself as I tended to do more than what I can actually handle well sometimes but life is about trade off given our limited time. Good luck!
我考虑再三， 没有去申请Manager这个位置，因为 孩子小， 要顾家， 不想让自己太累， 再加上communication skill也不强。 我们组里的一个管 Build及Test的白胖子老美却积极申请Manager位置，在我看来他很不自量力， 连 Code 都只知道些皮毛，也敢申请当我们的 Manager?? 估计公司的 owner 也认为他不 行， 一直就没有答应， 而让我们部门的Director 来兼管我们组的Manager， 我也认为这样很好。
可是这 白胖子 总是不停地强烈要求当Manager， 这几个月我们developers的 assignment都由他来分配。新人不知道他的底细，全把他当Manager， 他也拿出一副老板的架势。 我虽然没兴趣当Manager， 但也实在看不惯， 难免留露于外表， 他也把我当成眼中钉， 对我也很防着。
今天HR的人安排年度performance review. 我才知道我的review 将是由他及兼管的 Director 共同给我做, 心里很不舒服。我想警告他们我也不是没有要求的人， 必须对我有足够的respect, 但不知review 时该如何表达， 能否说这样的话：
Honestly speaking, since our previous manager left the company, I feel that I am qualify to apply this position, at least in experience/technical wise I am the best person, but I did not apply since I love to be a developer and I am passionate in design and coding.
Though being happy of being a developer, I want to be working happily in this environment. I hope I can be recognized and I would like to take more responsibilities.
总评是员工表功和提要求的时候，提出的要求不一定能实现，但可以就此让管理层了解自己能力。自我总评的每一句话，都要有具体的目的。
Honestly speaking, since our previous manager left the company, I feel that I am qualify to apply this position, at least in experience/technical wise I am the best person, but I did not apply since I love to be a developer and I am passionate in design and coding.
1. 这段话表明你不了解管理职位需要的技能，因为经验和技术不是做管理主要的决定条件。而且总评说的是一年来的成绩，与感觉无关。可略。
Though being happy of being a developer, I want to be working happily in this environment.
2. 什么是 “happily” ？怎么才能让你高兴？十个人可能有十一种高兴法。可略。
I hope I can be recognized and I would like to take more responsibilities.
3. 这句话是重点，但要把自己的具体想法和要求明确提出来。什么是 “recognized”？升职？长薪？周会上表扬？。。。 什么是“more responsibilities“？多做项目？只做重要的项目？组里那个项目你想做？。。。你不明说，没人知道。即使管理层是你肚里的蛔虫，你不明说，他们也乐得装糊涂。
题外的话：美国总统约翰逊在肯尼迪遇刺后就任总统，任期满后考虑是否要竞选下一届总统时，他的夫人说了一句话：你不去竞选，别人当了总统，你会看着不顺眼，每天后悔自己没竞选，叨叨别人做的不好。我可不想当你的树洞。据说这句话对约翰逊的决定竞选起了很大的作用。树洞是开玩笑，但约翰逊意识到如果不竞选总统，就失去了对时局的掌控。
小组总要有人管，无论是否有“管理”的头衔，高层可能挂个名，但不会去做具体事宜。如果觉得自己能做，当时应该申请。既然决定不做，其它的人就会填补这个空白，谁来填补就不是你能控制的了。从主贴来看，现在的代管做的不错。你可以选择跳槽，或与代管合作。与代管对着干是下策。
以前组出现过这个情况。技术好经验够的都不想当。结果一个年轻本地人当上了。而且做得居然很稳。当时组里一个国女就经常和被提拔人开会聊天，给她支点子。利用她扫除了不少异己。只是到后来那个国女自己想当领导了那天俩人的矛盾就很明显了。
关于recognized 是这样的： 组里新来的entry level 成员中有一位特别会说特别会表现，跟manager 沟通很多(尽管在我看来很浮浅好笑)，但白胖及老板好像都很喜欢他。所以我想说： As a first generation of immigrant, I still have a little language and culture barrier , plus our culture always encourages people to be humble , so sometimes I am not sure what is under communication and what is over communication. I hope management can judge each developer's technical level by the quality of the work s/he has delivered, and the problem solving ability , not just by talking
关于Take more responsibilities: Among our development team, I am the only person who have worked in several software companies before I join here, I have involved much bigger and complicated system than our application . I have bigger pictures and maybe better vision , I hope I can take some design work of our software ( 最可恨的是：那白胖子天天说他会design application) Also I want managers can trust me more, give me more authority to access our test/production environment ( 白胖子和目前老板连test environment 的password 都不告诉我）
关于 Raise
I think the company is unpaid me, since my market value is $XXXX. But instead of asking more money, I hope company can give me more flexible working hours. I want to work xxx hours from home each week regularly
我猜想公司或许给他时间让他提高技术，他也想学， 但我知道 He will never ger there, he is not a program material.
我现在跟他已经不怎么好了。 因为他不想让我 involve 一些事情，和access 一些server。 有一次公司大头让我做一个feature， 我让他在写email时 include me in the loop, 这样我也可以听到feedback, 并参加讨论. 他也不这么做， 而是代表我向上面汇报， 这让我也不情愿帮他。
建议你先听听他们关于你communication 方面的看法和需要改进的地方
I hope management can judge each developer's technical level by the quality of the work s/he has delivered, and the problem solving ability.有点抱怨的意思啊，他们怎么judge你控制不了，所以不同提。 多用 postive tone
第二点：
Also I want managers can trust me more, give me more authority to access our test/production environment。直接提，如果给你这些access, 你可以为公司做什么，不要提什么trust这类词。 如果我是经理，我会觉得我哪里不trust你了
后面的你等版主回答吧，她比较有技巧知道应该怎么说
没有谁是不可代替的，技术好的人可以再雇新的。新官不怕没干活的，就怕和他叫板的。
我可能就没好日子过。
可是让我当manager， 成天开会， 伺候上上下下， 也是听stressful的。 我有很好的 skill set， 不用愁找不到工作。
可是我听说一旦manage 三个以上的人， 你就没法专心搞开发了， 所以我才认为对我来说， being a developer is the best thing
灌水
? 这两天一直在做工作计划，抽空灌水。压力肯定是有的因为承担的责任多，不但要对自己负责，还得对别人负责。但是每一层都有压力啊，不是光写代码就没压力的，你以后要是天天面对不懂技术却要指挥你的胖子老板，不也是一种压力
也许你们办公室文化是废话越多越好，但那是唬别人的。在为自己争取利益时不明确地提出你想要什么，管理层不会去猜，即使猜出来也可以不理。
分析一下你的几段话：
关于recognized 是这样的：
As a first generation of immigrant, I still have a little language and culture barrier , plus our culture always encourages people to be humble , so sometimes I am not sure what you consider is under communicate and what is over communicate.
这段话在承认沟通能力有问题。是不是第一代移民，文化背景是什么无关。(没人会因为是第一代移民，文化背景不同而少拿工资。）沟通不良就是沟通不良，其它的都是借口。
I hope management can judge each developer's technical level mainly by the quality of the work s/he has delivered, and the problem solving ability.
这话是其实是应该我说的，一点用都没有。除非有证据他们对你的评价与你工作质量不符合，如果有，就事论事更有效。
关于Take more responsibilities:
Among our development team, I am the only person who have worked in several software companies before I join here, I have involved much bigger and complicated system than our application.
什么是“bigger” 和“complicated” 系统？和你现在做的项目有什么关系？不如明说我做过X， Y，Z， 正是现在做A，B， C需要的经验。
I have bigger pictures and maybe better vision。
什么是bigger picture, 什么是better vision？ 你的意思是你比管理层站的高看得远吗？
I hope I can take some design work of our software.
这是到目前为止第一句具体要求, 但要明确告诉他们你要做什么，怎么做： I'd like to take the design work of our project A, B or C. The disgn work can be accomplished by ......具体提出你的计划，一方面显示出了你的能力，一方面白纸黑字的留下证据，省得以后别人抢你的功。
Also I want managers can trust me more， give me more authority to access our test/production environment。
信任是挣来的，与你想不想无关。如果你想要密码就明说：因为我现在做1，2， 3， 知道密码会更有效工作。说句老实话，你现在白眼儿黑眼儿地看不上管理层，一张口就是“白胖子”，你让管理层怎么信任你，给你更多的权力？
关于 Raise
I am happy with my raise, thank you! But actually my market value shoud be more than this. But instead of asking more money, I hope company can give me more flexible working hours. I want to work xxx hours from home each week regularly.
在家工作和市场价是找工作时讨价还价的砝码，不是长工资的理由。这段话先说你对目前的工资满意，然后又说你的市场价高于目前，然后又说你不要求长工资，但要求在家工作。与其如此，不如先把公司在家工作的条件问明白，直接说你符合这些条件，希望每周在家工作若干小时。
祝你好运
遇到不懂技术还要仔细指导的很可怕,
听他的结果就是失败，不听，他会有无限感想， review时他会生事
既然放弃了，就不要再想那个职位，别给自己添堵
我前面公司连续三任懂行业却不懂专业的被雇来当我原来那个部门大佬，全部败北，都是曾经行业里的牛人啊，可是管理模式就如南橘北枳一样水土不服。那天快下班了，看到一个电话纽约的就接了结果是客户其中一个，上来就是我有5个问题。。。。。没有准备时间，都得在脑子里。我们也没有专门回答技术问题的组
我会去把你说的 1，2，3，A，B，C，X，Y，Z 都想好， 用具体事实和他们 谈。谢谢！ 周末愉快！
除非有新Manager来，你和“白胖子”只能有一个人舒服。
1. It is clear that you enjoy doing technical work and it is your strength. You didn’t express your interest and the other person did and started to help management work, the answer is clear who should be the manager between your two. I think you and the white fat guy (sorry have to follow the “name” you gave to the person) could be a good combination to work together since you are good at technical work and he is not but interested in managing people – he needs you unless you keep challenging him. Managing people could be stressful to you based on what you wrote in your post, especially since your kids are still young, why not just let him to take care of it for you.
2. If you really want to take more responsibilities, try not to mention you also want to work from home at the same time, one step at a time. After taking more responsibilities and working for a while until everything is under control, then gradually ask for work from home one or two days….Work from home is not helpful for you to get more responsibilities, at least not at the beginning, assuming you didn’t mean more pure technical work.
3. Try to use positive or neutral words, such as "judge" (more subjective) could be replaced by "evaluate" (more objective); Also try to avoid saying "don't trust" even it is true sometimes - Trust is earned. If you think people don’t trust you, then it could be your failure to earn. You could say that I believe they have some considerations not to grant me the access yet, I hope we can discuss it because I believe getting me access could have benefit A, B, C to the team….focus on the positive sides to support why you want to get access. 4. Try to think more about what you want to do and what you can do well career-wise with balancing your family commitments before your talk to people about taking more responsibilities and never underestimate the power of communication and people skills. I always need to think about these more by myself as I tended to do more than what I can actually handle well sometimes but life is about trade off given our limited time.
Good luck!
和director沟通下，他们一直没招manager说不定有这方面的考虑。
即使没有这么考虑，试着把这个idea推销给他，即使没有成功也让上面清楚了你的目标。说说这个岗的责任：派活，code review，系统分析等等。People managment的事儿还是director管。
那个小白，大概上面也担心他不服众，所以暗地鼓励他主动承担责任。从你的描述，我觉得他做的不错，在新人里树立了威望。已经可以参与review，估计正式升职是时间问题。如果你表态想做技术lead，无心管理，说不定你们还有可能win-win。
Good luck
要从对公司有好处的地方出发，而不是从对你有好处出发。即使你心里想要什么，也要换个说法，要说如果怎样怎样（例如你希望担任更多职责），可以给公司带来什么好处。例如你希望工作环境更透明（只是举例，不一定这样说），这样可以提高你及团队的工作效率，从而给公司和顾客带来更多贡献等等。目前看，恕我自言，你写的在外交辞令上还有很大的提高空间。你只是说自己要的（而且说得太直白），而没有提你给公司带来什么好处，你可以找一些英文公务写作及口头交流的书或资料来看，学习。相信自己的交流也是可以通过学习提高的，并持续去做，一定可以提高的。