看到一个比较CMU vs UCB CS 的quora 帖子,说去工业届的话学校学的专业技术用不到10%,主要还是其他方面的
personal development.
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Before I explain my reasoning, there are two facts to consider:
After you graduate, both degrees will be equal on paper. So don’t choose CMU over Berkeley, or Berkeley over CMU, simply because you think one will seem more prestigious than the other. In computer science, both degrees earn the same amount of respect. The only potential difference will be what you learn while you’re getting your degree, and what your overall educational experience is like. If your main goal is to get a job in Silicon Valley after graduation, then you should know that no matter where you study computer science, you are not likely to use more than 10% of what you learned in school. This should not be surprising to you, because most of the successful ideas in Silicon Valley did not require rocket science to create, and were driven more by other factors than the science part of computer science. Facebook was driven by social factors. Uber is a glorified taxi service. Even with Google, while they created a new search algorithm, their original success was driven more by having a different focus from their competition. Success in Silicon Valley has nothing to do with how good of a computer scientist you are.
In other words, if you’re just wondering what is going to help you get a high-paying job in Silicon Valley after graduation, then stop — both schools are equally viable in terms of career prospects.
The difference, where the choice might matter, is in terms of personal development
CS这个领域被印度人把持的死死的。你花那么钱读出来就想当个码工(这还不包括为了进名校花的钱),实在是机枪打苍蝇。从事CS的印度人有的水平很烂,破学校出来就够了。人家有集团优势,上面有人。人名校出来被压在那儿,亏极。还不如学数学,物理。这些领域想转作CS易如反掌。
说实在的,大学里教的CS课程真不怎么地。物无所值。还不如小公司从底层干上来学得多。真在名校读CS,就别想着做什么码工。要志向远大。
就退学了。佩奇和布林也是学CS,杨致远也是吧
想做码工,只学数学物理能拼得过只学CS的?大部分人的智商差别不大,人家四年CS的训练不是白给的。
如果想有更大作为,学什么不重要。
personal development.
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Before I explain my reasoning, there are two facts to consider:
After you graduate, both degrees will be equal on paper. So don’t choose CMU over Berkeley, or Berkeley over CMU, simply because you think one will seem more prestigious than the other. In computer science, both degrees earn the same amount of respect. The only potential difference will be what you learn while you’re getting your degree, and what your overall educational experience is like. If your main goal is to get a job in Silicon Valley after graduation, then you should know that no matter where you study computer science, you are not likely to use more than 10% of what you learned in school. This should not be surprising to you, because most of the successful ideas in Silicon Valley did not require rocket science to create, and were driven more by other factors than the science part of computer science. Facebook was driven by social factors. Uber is a glorified taxi service. Even with Google, while they created a new search algorithm, their original success was driven more by having a different focus from their competition. Success in Silicon Valley has nothing to do with how good of a computer scientist you are.In other words, if you’re just wondering what is going to help you get a high-paying job in Silicon Valley after graduation, then stop — both schools are equally viable in terms of career prospects.
The difference, where the choice might matter, is in terms of personal development
by other factors than the science part of computer science
和写码就关系不大了。大学本科的功底应该放在这方面。
Or you sell YouTube for 16 billion. Lol...
肯定毕业拿不到名校的钱。能有三分之一就不错了
H的CS不会比旗舰州立更有利,有时候会有disadvantage,听过一位hiring manager直接说不愿用。
数学底子不好,你PHD出来也不会有太大作为。估计就去教书了。
在这里CS就是个工具。背后是强大的数学模型。
H 里面学CS的有不如州大的,但不至于看见H 的CS 就不给面试吧?
最后混个中产。咱们都没上名校,不也混个中产。
现在80% 以上的CS 高端人都是数学背景,或数学是major 之一。小孩子都贼精贼精地,很多IMO都在搞CS高端
有小中当年进不了旗舰州大,后来又从州二转州三总算毕业。前两年跳了几份工作,然后也进了谷歌。
几年以后,名校毕业生早把学费差价赚回来了,人家的朋友圈不一样,找的女友老婆也是名校毕业,那就赚大了。
一个IPO,你几辈子的钱已经落袋。你还管公司被看好不看好?哈哈。。。
好好学学统计吧。LOL
名校敢charge那么多,就一定有道理。资源资源资源
多数不回有什么前途。就是大厂好员工而言。大厂员工咱也做过。现在我是一点兴趣都没有。呵呵。
奇异之人无所谓。大众就追不上了
能搞出多少资源来?还不是老老实实听你们这些虎妈地。
名校毕业生可能一两年就把差价赚回来了。
在国内也是顶级大学毕业地。名校又能如何呢?还不是给人打工。嘻嘻
真正虎妈的孩子已经是K法官的clerk 了?
大藤数学 vs CMU CS 怎么选?对于两个都喜欢,爱深钻的孩子
人最后还不是都死了。LOL
拿了钱再搞别的。
大藤也可以CS 数学双休呀
哈哈。
有非大厂朋友说以前有名校学生快到夏天了反悔intern offer, 后来就比较招适合的州大生。
名校州大虽然学生还是有交集,但可能以后道路会大不同
俺家领导也是工作渐入佳境,越来越有劲。我是早就没有兴趣只等退休了
大部分人还是上浙大比师专出路好啊
还能牛到哪里去?
挺开心 谢谢!
那又得说一天。
本科期间孩子们仍然在迅速成长学习,不抓住机会好好学习,名校毕业了也就泯然众人矣。很多普通学校一样也有好资源,全看个人如何利用。人生很长,一个学校的名气决定不了谁的人生。要想成功,需要不断的持续的在对的方向上努力,否则,几年就重新洗牌一次,管你哪里毕业的。
把名校神话了。多十几万的学费,能牛到哪里去啊?
你造神呢?
同进大厂,起薪差别也巨大。
M/S no brainer, H/P all have pretty strong to decent CS.
计算机专业本科毕业两年后收入之比较
CMU beats all of them by huge margin.
https://bbs.wenxuecity.com/sat/5230427.html?
一定是CS强校比例大多了。
求答案
说破校。你问他吧。
排在前头的都不是藤校类的名校。CS Top 4强校 几个方面都很强,但各有千秋。再往后比较复杂,我想10-20所学校各有优势。CS强州大,理工私校,藤/非藤私校各有长短。
CS最重要的还是个人。但真要比学校,就一项一项比,不要搞什么无脑选什么的。