Stanford or Caltech

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zwwwy
楼主 (文学城)

小中女,国际生,标化满分,城头竞争激烈的数理科研夏令营去过三个不同的,学术有国家国际奖,录了斯坦福和加州理工。紫檀潜水两年,收获很大。在此分享并感谢!同时提问,两所学校选哪一个?学术女娃,小学跳过级,年龄偏小,本科想读hard core stem,目标EE博士。喜欢加州理工的氛围文化但是又觉得学校太小,喜欢斯坦福的灵活性,又担心同学们都太疯狂,找不到潜心科研的朋友,不能fit in ,因为身边录取斯坦福的同学的确要么能歌善舞能言善辩要么充满创业激情。另外,据说本科和博士一般不可能在同一个学校,这一点会影响本科的选校么?想听听各位的意见。非常感谢!

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ProudOfMySon
反正足够优秀,建议本科读斯坦福,博士读加州理工,两全其美!
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ChinaNemo
S

S helps you stand on the top of the world and explore more possibilities of your life.

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BeLe
小留进大藤不容易,好像Stanford不给国际生financial aids,现在还早,藤校还没有放榜。
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zwwwy
看来斯坦福是压倒性多数啊。谢谢大家的建议!
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zwwwy
谢谢大家建议。不一一跟贴感谢了!
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zwwwy
谢谢Bele,追问一个问题,对于确认要学工科孩子来说,是不是哈耶普会比斯坦福和加州理工差一点呢?尤其是极大概率读博士走学术路线的
米汤
可以从本科得NSF奖准备去读博士的学生数目和比例来看学校

see https://bbs.wenxuecity.com/znjy/5246341.html and followups https://bbs.wenxuecity.com/znjy/5246737.html

有言
恭喜恭喜!-:)
游泳的八爪鱼
S给的。我的一个国内的朋友的女儿拿到全奖(2019年)。
凊荷
一般来说

这个奖给二年级比较多,一年级特殊的也给。不过也不必神话这个奖,没得过的太多研究生比得过的优秀。

 

游泳的八爪鱼
其实这些学校对一个本科生来说都是足够好了,关键是看孩子喜欢哪一所。
又当爹来又当妈
又担心同学们都太疯狂,找不到潜心科研的朋友

想太多了

名校FAN
哈哈,恭喜
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w20636
Caltech本科,Stanford博士。Stanford学生读博的不多。
在实话实说
斯坦福
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4BigFive
都录取这两个学校了,还来这里问?

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qinqinqin
娃這麼優秀
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twoboys_mom
How did you apply these two together for EA?
天碧
Caltech RA 已经放榜了
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zizifan
到哪都活的滋润。
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tibuko
不用想了,Stanford,藤校她会觉得不够EECS,Caltech路太窄,如果一定要科研就等研究生,本科错过了增长其他见识的机
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greenoasis
这么优秀的孩子,家长别规划到碍手碍脚的程度。斯坦福有更多探索发现的机会。另外这样的女生M居然没要?
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vest2005
Stanford. 毕业后更多可能性。现在执着STEM不一定以后也会, 人的想法和社会方向什么的都是会变的,

尤其你说孩子年龄还偏小,变数就更多了。去Stanford的话,STEM不比CAL Tech差多少,但会leave the door open for other possibilities。想创业,学医,学法,花街,从政等等,不是说Caltech就不行,但相对来说S机会会更多,未来可能性更广泛。

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acreek
恭喜恭喜,选Stanford
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littlepotato
不去问问孩子的意见?我说大实话,不好听别介意

此地无银三百两,教育投资上已经花了一大堆银子推,孩子也努力到这个高度,还要问这么幼稚的问题。

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nnn333
Stanford EA录了再RD Caltech? 有点那个
红布TX
同意,S本科不如Cal Tech, 如果要扎扎实实学习的话。S博士好的。
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burnwoodhot
Stanford EA录了再RD Caltech?

First of all, congrats! But if Stanford EA录了再RD to Caltech, then your daughter might also RD apply to many other top schools--- literally, this behavor destroys the dreams of many of her classmates, and even other ABCs.

If ED to Stanford, and EA to Caltech at the same time, then it is a smart way to use the rules.

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burnwoodhot
One big favor for you to do for other Chinese is to immediately

alliquot spaces to other applicants who are desperately waiting for.

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LilyBD
这两个学校不能同时EA吗?或者人家可能是RD结果吧
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burnwoodhot
stanford RD has not been announced,

isn't it? If all RD applications (or one ED and the other EA), then for sure, they followed the rules.

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greenoasis
人家这不是正纠结呢。EA就是让你可以再申请别的学校。没做错什么。
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12度圆缺
去斯坦福吧,那里出来的读博士的多的去了,并且全是顶级学校
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burnwoodhot
you are right,

ED plus EA follows the rule--- I reallized it after i submitted the first comment-- thank you for your correction.

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YanNL
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burnwoodhot
Oh

Most likely, she EA-ed to S, Caltech and M at the same time--- this is indeed permitted by the rule.

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Smilee
Hardcore STEM girl should head to Caltech, then go M for PhD

might be lost at S. Not popular for harcore STEM people.

 This is the "fit" thing.

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iGarage
No
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burnwoodhot
right-- could not EAs to all--copied from Stanford website

V. Restrictive Early Action Policy It is Stanford policy that, if you apply to Stanford with a decision plan of Restrictive Early Action, you may not apply to any other private college/university under their Early Action, Restrictive Early Action, Early Decision, or Early Notification plan.  In addition, it is Stanford policy that you may not apply to any public university under an early binding plan, such as Early Decision. If you apply to Stanford under Restrictive Early Action, you may apply to other colleges and universities under their Regular Decision plan.  If you apply to Stanford under Restrictive Early Action and your application is deferred, you may apply to another college’s Early Decision II plan.  VI. Exceptions 

It is Stanford policy that you may simultaneously apply to Stanford with a decision plan of Restrictive Early Action and to the following:

any public college/university with a non-binding early application plan or early application deadline.  any college/university with a non-binding rolling admission process.  any foreign college/university with a non-binding application plan on any schedule.  any college/university with an early deadline for a scholarship or special academic program, as long as: the decision is non-binding; and in order to be considered for the scholarship or program, the student must apply in the early round or by an early deadline.
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Pilsung
这是太优秀的牛蛙烦恼,我们插不上嘴。

要我个人选择,会选斯坦福。

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w20636
Caltech给本科生提供的各种研究机会Stanford没法比
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South_CA_dad
大部分人(~90%)会选S,但这个小孩不一般,或许应选caltech,若目标是research
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zwwwy
几点解释

先谢谢大家的建议。解释一下,我们EA了加州理工和英国剑桥,想同时EA MIT 但是时间太紧没写完申请只好放弃。EA 录取了Caltech和剑桥,常规轮申请了前五位的学校。拿到了斯坦福的likely letter,MIT据。因为疫情,也没有亲身看学校,国际生申请名额少偶然性特别大,能有现在的选择,非常非常感恩。感谢大家这么多的建议。

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justdoit8
恭喜牛娃!目标是EE博士的话是不是本科上Caltech 更合适?年龄小,潜心打好基础,将来是年轻的EE女博士。到那是基础和思想都

不管是工业界还是学术界都前途无量。

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zwwwy
一并感谢上面所有的热心建议!
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atongmujack
立志科研娃Caltech不用想,对于well rounded娃想多探索各种可能去S
五台
M没要?还是没申请M?怎么感觉去M最合适?基于现况,本科读S研究生SMC都可关健找导师,C对博士生很宽容的又想不受干扰做研究又想
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svll
Congrats

First of all, congratulations on the admissions. 

I doubt you can go wrong either way. As for hard core engineering and EE PHD as a career goal, I recommend Caltech for undergraduate. 

These two schools offer vastly different experiences. Caltech is small, intimate, willing to take care of her students, and offers unparalleled research opportunities to the undergraduates. Stanford is diverse, immersive, and easy to get lost. The training in Caltech is harder than stanford, by a wide margin. Things might have changed, but that was how I felt.

Caltech encourages her products to apply to PhD programs elsewhere. Stanford is a top choice at that time. 

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wlwt123
立志STEM PHD應該去Caltech。還有,那裡燕瘦環肥都很受歡迎。
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hhill123
感觉本科还应该S吧。孩子这年龄,以后的志趣也许会变,大一些的学习给的视野和机会多吧。美式大学这个本来是优势之一吧。
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bobpainting
我也觉得过分,自私

我家孩子马上撤了其他所有的申请。你强娃明显对其他亚裔不利。

太自私了。对这种家庭,这种孩子的亚裔没有好感,没有一点替别人着想的意识。