For most applicants, a test score alone doesn’t show admissions officers anything new. A 2011 national study found that some 60 percent of college applicants have test scores consistent with their academic performance in high school. The remaining students in that study, however, had a significant gap between the two metrics—either high test scores combined with low grades, or low test scores along with high grades. According to the study, female applicants along with Black and Latino students are more likely to have higher GPAs and lower test scores. Meanwhile, students—especially boys—who come from families that make more than $100,000 a year and whose parents have graduate degrees are more likely to have lower GPAs and higher SAT scores.
Researchers found that many students who have relatively low GPAs compared with their SAT scores take more rigorous courses in high school. The reverse is true for students who have high GPAs, but low test scores. This is why selective colleges often suggest that teenagers focus more on taking the toughest courses they can in high school, and less on prepping for the SAT.
High test scores don’t guarantee admission, as I saw one morning while observing application reviews at Emory University in January 2019. Lupe Monterreso, the admissions officer I was sitting with, opened an application and set the timer on her iPhone. Seven minutes. When the alert went off, it was a gentle reminder to move on to the next file.
As Monterreso pored over the student’s transcript, she did a double take. She wasn’t familiar with the high school, and the senior class was much bigger than she was used to seeing, about 1,000 students. This applicant ranked No. 3.
The student had taken more than a dozen AP courses and earned nearly a 4.0 GPA. Her lowest grade in high school was a 91—in ninth grade. The applicant’s SAT score? A near-perfect 1570.
Monterreso asked her colleague Nicole Dancz for an evaluation of the applicant’s extracurricular activities. The grades, curriculum, and test scores were among the strongest they would probably see that day. If the selection process were conducted by a computer programmed to look only at the numbers, this student would have been an automatic acceptance. But Monterreso and Dancz were reminded of something their boss told them often: Academic metrics are important, but they are not everything.
The applicant had solid activities—band, National Honor Society, tutoring—but they read more as a checklist, without a sense of deep commitment to any one in particular. Although the student said she wanted to be a doctor, she had “no activities related to premed.” Monterreso suggested scoring her a three out of five for activities. Dancz wanted to knock it down to a two.
Dancz turned to the essay. The applicant had written about conquering the slide on the playground as a child. “A missed opportunity,” she said. “We didn’t learn much about her.”
Monterreso typed a few notes in the file, and then came to routing the application. “Great kiddo. Incredibly smart,” she told Dancz. Emory accepts almost half of students with credentials like this one’s, but the application illustrated the vagaries of admissions: No special combination of attributes exists that guarantees acceptance. “I’m okay with ‘deny,’” Monterreso said. And that’s where the girl with nearly a 4.0 GPA and an almost perfect SAT score ended up.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/09/even-coronavirus-cant-kill-sat-and-act/616360/
重点是我画的。
For most applicants, a test score alone doesn’t show admissions officers anything new. A 2011 national study found that some 60 percent of college applicants have test scores consistent with their academic performance in high school. The remaining students in that study, however, had a significant gap between the two metrics—either high test scores combined with low grades, or low test scores along with high grades. According to the study, female applicants along with Black and Latino students are more likely to have higher GPAs and lower test scores. Meanwhile, students—especially boys—who come from families that make more than $100,000 a year and whose parents have graduate degrees are more likely to have lower GPAs and higher SAT scores.
Researchers found that many students who have relatively low GPAs compared with their SAT scores take more rigorous courses in high school. The reverse is true for students who have high GPAs, but low test scores. This is why selective colleges often suggest that teenagers focus more on taking the toughest courses they can in high school, and less on prepping for the SAT.
再看看Holistic是怎么拒掉一个高分孩子的。我怎么看不太明白他们在找什么?这孩子要是干脆报undecided是不是就稳进?
High test scores don’t guarantee admission, as I saw one morning while observing application reviews at Emory University in January 2019. Lupe Monterreso, the admissions officer I was sitting with, opened an application and set the timer on her iPhone. Seven minutes. When the alert went off, it was a gentle reminder to move on to the next file.
As Monterreso pored over the student’s transcript, she did a double take. She wasn’t familiar with the high school, and the senior class was much bigger than she was used to seeing, about 1,000 students. This applicant ranked No. 3.
The student had taken more than a dozen AP courses and earned nearly a 4.0 GPA. Her lowest grade in high school was a 91—in ninth grade. The applicant’s SAT score? A near-perfect 1570.
Monterreso asked her colleague Nicole Dancz for an evaluation of the applicant’s extracurricular activities. The grades, curriculum, and test scores were among the strongest they would probably see that day. If the selection process were conducted by a computer programmed to look only at the numbers, this student would have been an automatic acceptance. But Monterreso and Dancz were reminded of something their boss told them often: Academic metrics are important, but they are not everything.
The applicant had solid activities—band, National Honor Society, tutoring—but they read more as a checklist, without a sense of deep commitment to any one in particular. Although the student said she wanted to be a doctor, she had “no activities related to premed.” Monterreso suggested scoring her a three out of five for activities. Dancz wanted to knock it down to a two.
Dancz turned to the essay. The applicant had written about conquering the slide on the playground as a child. “A missed opportunity,” she said. “We didn’t learn much about her.”
Monterreso typed a few notes in the file, and then came to routing the application. “Great kiddo. Incredibly smart,” she told Dancz. Emory accepts almost half of students with credentials like this one’s, but the application illustrated the vagaries of admissions: No special combination of attributes exists that guarantees acceptance. “I’m okay with ‘deny,’” Monterreso said. And that’s where the girl with nearly a 4.0 GPA and an almost perfect SAT score ended up.
怎么融洽同子女的关系?
·不要监控孩子的电话,尊重其隐私权。
·对孩子的朋友要和蔼可亲,但不要同他们过于亲近。不要侵入他(她)的天地。
·不要在他人面前夸奖孩子,这样会使其尴尬。
·不要在他人面前批评或斥责孩子。如果必须要这样做的话,应该在无人的时候。
·母亲在他人面前要注意服饰。母亲的形象不整洁,孩子会感到羞耻。
·如果你的孩子参加学校的演出,他(她)在舞台上时你不要打手势,这样会令他(她)紧张,甚至出错。
·孩子和你一起坐自己家的车出门时,不要把汽车收音机调到你所喜爱的频道。让孩子挑选电台,但可要求他调低音量。
·在子女需要帮助时要给予帮助,但要注意方法。
·子女在一定的阶段就像需要食品一样需要爱抚,但是爱抚要适可而止,不要在公开场合这样做,更不要在朋友面前这样做。
·不要让你的孩子在外人面前表现他的“本事”,如朗诵、唱歌、跳舞或弹钢琴。如果你为他的本领自豪并希望让人家看到,那就对他提出请求。如果父母坚持让他们在外人面前表现本领,有的孩子会感觉自己像马戏团的猴子。
·不要向他的朋友和亲属讲他的怪癖,尤其不要当他的面前。任何孩子都不愿意别人知道自己的隐私。
·不要让他失去对你的信赖。他向你透露的秘密,你不要告诉别人。你一定要完全尊重他的意愿。
·在他面前不要说谎。他看到自己的父母说谎或弄虚作假,就会感觉不好。例如,父母在某人背后说坏话,而当面又装出热情的样子,孩子就会反感。
下页:父母教育是家庭教育成败的关键
EC 没有和 premed 相关联,Essay 也没有体现出对学医的兴趣或学医所需要的潜质?
EC有band, tutoring, NHS,大概就是members, 没有领导岗位。
我感觉这孩子没有人指点。老老实实的,不会玩录取游戏,所以完蛋了。但是看到AO这种审阅过程,真的让人无语。又不是哈佛,至于吗。
我都怀疑这是不是一个小中啊。
不过应该是小中。只有小中才能有这么好的成绩。
而且如果是贵人,早当天才录了。
文书需要体现的是孩子的personality,千万别把activity再重新捋一遍。最后要升华。
不夸张的说倒在申请文书上的优秀孩子太多了。读书好doesnt mean much these days.
他说希望我们研究生的时候再申请,或者是我们可以先local 大学读然后转Emory. 我说希望我们的推出不影响儿子学校后来的招生,他说not at all, more than welcome to have students like 我儿子。
填活动时不要不舍得砍,少而精绝对好过多而杂。
活动不一定是要leadership, 显示impact非常重要。
不单单对t5, 对前30甚至前50的私立都适用。
成绩过线拼ec, ec过线拼运气。大多数小中成绩都过线了, 卡在ec上了,ec也不是没有过线,只是没有在申请表上好好体现出来。
EC is indeed a bit weak. 3/1000+1570+12plusAPs could have been a t10 contender with some research or awards.
But she had 50%-60% chance at Emory; applying three or four t15 colleges might have helped to secure one admission.
事后诸葛亮容易做
Davison scholar 这类才会被Emory over qualified .这个学生可能不会被 Emory 或UC OQ, 感觉Emory 50-60% chance
https://bbs.wenxuecity.com/znjy/2738006.html
https://bbs.wenxuecity.com/znjy/2738281.html
毕竟是大人,总觉得我们只适合给防守的建议。
另一个AO可能会想的相反:成绩就是证明 grit 用的,你essay应该用来显示自己的性格 和纯文字水准。那pizza文得宠正是此理。还有,AO怎么在这么早的阶段就给毙了 连讨论都没有 这么草率了事。你不觉得 她要是一路premed activities,AO又会说:我这是不是太 calculating了啊?投其所好,知道你要premed一套,我就做一套,也不动动脑筋,不敢尝试没做过的事情,不敢探索啊?这种不负责任的录取方式我就真奇怪大家居然都接受,没有一个在法律层面的质疑 - 好大学都是 heavily sponsored by federally.
这说明该娃的高中应该不是太好并且以往很少有学生被Emory录取。这样的高中
的GPA以及3/1000 并不是很有竞争力。
此外essay写conquering slide大概是3-6岁的事?基本上属于tell a story的范畴,这违反了show do not tell的写作要求。
所以这娃的唯一拿得出手的就是SAT 1570。这样成绩的申请人应该大把大把的, 不可能都进T20吧?
以上纯属俺的马后炮
Emory 这样有点鸡肋的私校,不去也罢。
The grades, curriculum, and test scores were among the strongest they would probably see that day.
Emory accepts almost half of students with credentials like this one’s
一个是AO设7分钟读完一个申请, 这个不离谱, 一般8分钟以下, 很少有超过10分钟的。如果申请者整个package里没有特别让AO记忆停留长一点的货, AO的notes真的可以一带而过。 还有, 要是碰到AO在这7分钟里,因为喝的咖啡太苦或者吃的中饭太差而心情不好的话, 申请者就倒霉了
另外,这孩子的Essay确实失误了, 虽然对很多背景强的孩子来说essay不是决定因素,可这孩子的EC没有突出到让AO印象深刻的地步, 这Essay的选题就确实是missed opportunity, 毕竟如何写essay还是有讲究的。