APAD: Crime is the price we pay for freedom

移花接木
楼主 (文学城)
Crime is the price we pay for freedom.  I saw this line while watching political contents. It strikes a chord with me.   It must be derived from "Taxes are the price we pay for civilization"

Here is the reasoning:

 In a free country, it’s impossible to prevent a mad lunatic from getting a knife and stabbing people on a train, you might prevent some lunatics but you can’t prevent them all. The best you can hope for is that rescue comes fast enough before anything serious occurs.  People die at the hands of villains, because freedom is applied to everyone, the law-abiding and the criminals, the peace-lovers and loonies, the innocent and the guilty. That’s the price we pay for being able to go out without fear of government intervention, for having the law protect our privacy and property from the government eaves-dropping, for being innocent till proven guilty. That’s the price of freedom.

The price of freedom is the possibility of crime, and if you’re unwilling to pay that price,  then, don’t expect to live in a free country.

North Korea is probably a country of the lowest crime rate under the firm grab of the government,
and the United States has, by far, the highest homicide rate of the G7 countries.

But do you think the people there would rather be safe–or free? For the most part, everyone prefers freedom. Because freedom is worth the price, even if that price is paid in the blood of innocent people.

 

 

最西边的岛上
know it’s a seriousTopic,but can’t helpSmiling 2the title:-)
最西边的岛上
Agreed. Freedom is never free! People die2get,die2keep it …
最西边的岛上
I’d rather pay2live in it than in a place full of CCTVs ;-))
最西边的岛上
Good write-up! & Long live freedom !!!!!
蒋闻铭
The same applies to gun violence in U.S.

即使在今天的美国,自由民主也还是需要用生命去守护。美国民间,平均每人有1.2枝枪,时不时的就会出枪击案。民间拥枪引发的枪击死亡,实际上是美国人用生命守护自由民主付出的代价。生命的代价,是伤心惨痛的代价。枪击案,特别是中学小学校园的枪击案,每一起,都是令人伤心落泪的惨痛。你可能会说,民间不拥抢,难道自由民主就会消亡吗?当然不会。欧洲日本加拿大,民间就没有拥枪的自由。但是,人民手中的枪,是限制政府权力的高效手段。类似于新冠流行的前三年,中国政府实行的胡作非为的清零封控,不要说平均每人1.2枝枪,就是民间每一百二十人有一杆枪,他也没法搞。

人类社会不是乌托邦,具体的法律条文,哪一条对那一条不对,仁者见仁智者见智,没有客观的是非对错标准。民间拥抢,是宪法的第二修正案,是美国人当初选择的捍卫自由民主的一种特别的手段,无论对错,除非修宪取消,在美国都是基本人权的一部分。自由民主的社会制度,宪政是根本。法制社会,最要紧的,是宪法的权威。既然当初选择了以民间拥枪为手段去限制政府的权力,整个社会就必须承担这种选择的后果。枪击死亡,是美国人为维护宪政民主不得不付出的代价。

移花接木
Everything comes with a price as long as worth it
移花接木
Canada has more balanced liberty&discipline,
移花接木
no overpriced to me
最西边的岛上
“Civilization begins with order, grows with liberty and
最西边的岛上
dies with chaos" — Will Durant. So there is a balance …
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7grizzly
Free people should make sure that crime does not pay.
最西边的岛上
do U mean "0-dollar-buy" in CA? isn't it correctedBy B36?
移花接木
Crime Stoppers Canada does
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7grizzly
Too many holes to plug... Didn't know about B36.
永远老李
Well, this is one way to rationalize crime in society

Of course I don't want to live in North Korea. But I don't like violent crimes and mass shootings in America either. I mean, I am not sure what kind of freedom I may lose if the governament manages to make this country a bit safer. I will defintely consider it. Think about it: fifty thousands people die because of gun related crime alone. We are talking about fifty thousand people. Two weeks ago, a plane crashed in Washington DC. There were only less than one hundred fataliies. Is fifty thousand deaths acceptable or people in country become numb about it? 

最西边的岛上
more social support&less inequality help2reduce someCrime
永远老李
Social justice or injustice is an issue indeed
永远老李
Decent free people shouldn't pay high price of crime

The system has to do better. 

妖妖灵
Oh,now I know why I love China so much——I felt safe when
妖妖灵
I walked on the street of my hometown~
移花接木
Canada is a much safer place to live without compromising
移花接木
much freedom, the maximum freedom 1 can have
移花接木
1's freedom shall not intervene other's freedom.
妖妖灵
A friend of mine said, the US to Canada is just like Beijing
妖妖灵
to Tianjin~ How do you feel?
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7grizzly
neighborhood watch USA tries to catch up :-)
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7grizzly
好人一生平安? :-) The west has no such concept.
移花接木
很难说,这两个国家习俗差异,比美国州之间的差异还小
永远老李
好像鬼子里也讲什么天堂啊地狱啊啥的

I once watched a movie. This old guy is about to die. His family members are on his bedside. His wife tried to comfort him" Don't be scared, honey. You will go to heaven". The old guy replied" What the hell are you talking about? I know where I am going. Besides, all my firends are in the hell"

最西边的岛上
哈哈哈哈,Thx4 theFunnyStory! 我觉得:出来混都是要还滴。善有善报恶有恶报,时候如到一定会报滴 :)
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7grizzly
The theory I heard was salvation thru faith only