In our state, private road is private. People can trespass or ac
In most cases, owners don't mind people trespass those private road. but there are cases, owners put up a sign, and may actually come out and warn others not entering. I have seen both.. and police says those owners do have the right to stop others from using their road..
Just curious, in your state, does the owner still have liability if someone fell and hurt him/herself on those private road?
we live in a gentrified neighborhood downtown. We have private alleyways between some of our neighbors’ houses. Because we are downtown, sometimes we get homeless people wonder through those alleyways with their pets. Often times they don’t clean after their pets even though my neighborhood provides tons of waste bags and waste bins.
it's hard to control a dog's urination, because it's not only a function of elimination, but also used by dogs to mark their territories. Very often, the dog would ration it's volume, few drops here and there, so it can mark more "land marks", haha :)) This type of behavior is printed in their genes. However, it's absolutely the owner's responsibilities to clean up their dog's "dodo".
There are a few things you can do:
1. Put a clear sign on your lawn, maybe attach a small box containing a roll of plastic bags, like those boxes we've seen at the entrance of public parks.
2. If you have a tradition of hosting a christmas party for the neighbors, maybe you can invite this family in? Try to get to know them better, after all you are neighbors. Or just a small christmas gift, i do that every yr for my neighbors. You never know, good neighbors could make youlife easier.
It is, after all, an elderly individual holding a young toddler, dragged along by a dog, with another child in tow, up and down a steep slope. Speaking of a high risk situation!
Well, they have plenty of options on where to walk the dog.
There is a nature preserve just two minutes from the their house, easy access through public roads. It is a big, flat, and beautiful park with marked paths for humans and dogs. Why can’t their dog mark it’s territory there? The park is quite nature oriented. If the dog relieves itself couple of feet off the path, I don’t think the human would even need to pick up after the dog. Alternatively, the dog can mark their own front and back yard. Why the dog just “has to” mark MY front yard on a private road that leads to nowhere is just beyond me. The owner certainly has many options. She picks the option that happens to be the most convenient for her but the least considerate for her neighbors. So, yes, the dog “has to” urinate somewhere. But no, the dog does not “have to” urinate on MY yard.
That said, I don’t think any subtle hint would work with the family. So all I can do is a few little things here and there, and then I will come back here and vent some more...
There would be many "should" by my or your thinking, but
if we can't make people think or do what we think "should" after we made our position clear, that's what i would do if i were in your position. The family is new on the block, IMO, it's always worth a try to get to know them a little better.
I will certainly give it a try, but I am not optimistic.
We have properly introduced ourselves when they first moved to the neighborhood. Knocked on their door, brought cookies, a list of local service providers, the whole nine yards.
That is how we know of the name of each the family members, each member’s age, their careers, etc. Not sure what else is there to know other than their determination to use our private road as their dog’s private bathroom.
今天娃学校有事我在家，坐在面向前院的窗前，看见这一大两小一条狗又来了。狗是有拴着的，但绳子老长了。那狗很愉快地跑到邻居家前院闲庭信步好大一圈。然后那狗从邻居家晃悠到我家前院，欣赏了一会儿我家邮箱，然后华丽丽地抬起了一条腿。我脑补了一下我家刚粉刷一新的邮箱瞬间被漂黄，再一想最近小路上的团团肥料，真是怒从胆中生。抓了外套就冲出门招呼了。我说，这条是私有路，我们不介意你时不时来遛狗，但最好不要是每一次；另外请不要在我家草地上撒尿。我们维护草本来就够困难的，就算帮我们一把。这老太太倒是挺客气，说，噢，知道了。手一指邻居家院子，“下回我们就尽量让狗在那里排泄”。我语塞，傻傻地又重复了一遍，这条路是我们这三家人共有的，不是public road. 老太太倒是不落一拍，对哦，这家邻居我们见过面了， “She asked us to come visit”。我还在那儿琢磨我邻居是开了绿灯让她到这儿遛狗了，还是客气请她去家里玩呢，老太太就开始叨叨地说她自己的狗才刚去世，她姐姐也差不多时间去世，很伤心，等等。这话题瞬间就跑得没影了。面对一个伤心的老太太，我实在不好意思再说啥，只会顺着她的话聊家常。聊了五分钟，道了再会，她末了强调了一句，尽量不在你家草上撒尿，我说谢谢，就各自走了。
再看看吧，如果好转了，不就完了吗？
如果还是有狗屎，你就问问邻居的意见，如果大家觉得不让她来，就不让她来呗。如果大家觉得应该立个牌子，捡狗屎，就立个牌子。
狗就是有这个问题，我们别墅区也有这个问题
也很讨厌那些不负责任的养狗人，他们在我家前院草地上撒肥料，真是很烦人。
我认识很多养狗的人，出门遛狗都带着袋子的。
也应该都知道狗的排泄物对lawn是个破坏因素啊。
要是他们不在乎狗S，你可以直接找那家房主。要是还不行，考虑几种方案：
简单的，贴牌子； 边界洒repellent； 换草地肥料； 种rosemary
复杂的，装篱笆； 装motion detector; 装motion detector activated 的sprinkler; 种有刺的barrier... 但这些都费事费钱。最好不用折腾
会烧黄甚至S掉
本来一点事儿没有。。
有牌子还进的人，只有强硬强调才有效
大家对同一件事感受不一样是挺正常的事。互相意识到然后避开就好了。
三家公用的路，如果对门不介意，而你又介意的话，可以跟他们私下沟通，找个合适理由一起拒绝那家人进来。如果觉得不想做到这一步，那像现在这样，不影响到自己家的院子也挺好了。
我能理解你的想法，就是道理上的东西，大家都遵守，多简单的事。结果有人不遵守，搞得遵守的人还要多几步去维护，无端端多出事来麻烦。
没办法，在这个世界上除了规则还有很多东西，每个人对规则的理解也不一样，要生活就是要学会协调。
我们遛狗，都不让狗走到邻居们的草地上，即使邻居们也有狗。
this is the law in my state. Not sure what is the law in your state.
Also, she should clean after her dogs. It could be a public health problem with exposed dog poops.
所以说这种人，拿她没办法。不知道如果装个摄像头，把她的狗拉屎不清理的照片帖到她家门上，不知道是不是可以算是流氓打流氓。
In most cases, owners don't mind people trespass those private road. but there are cases, owners put up a sign, and may actually come out and warn others not entering. I have seen both.. and police says those owners do have the right to stop others from using their road..
Just curious, in your state, does the owner still have liability if someone fell and hurt him/herself on those private road?
we live in a gentrified neighborhood downtown. We have private alleyways between some of our neighbors’ houses. Because we are downtown, sometimes we get homeless people wonder through those alleyways with their pets. Often times they don’t clean after their pets even though my neighborhood provides tons of waste bags and waste bins.
I actually don’t know the answer and this reminds me that I better look into this.
it's hard to control a dog's urination, because it's not only a function of elimination, but also used by dogs to mark their territories. Very often, the dog would ration it's volume, few drops here and there, so it can mark more "land marks", haha :)) This type of behavior is printed in their genes. However, it's absolutely the owner's responsibilities to clean up their dog's "dodo".
There are a few things you can do:
1. Put a clear sign on your lawn, maybe attach a small box containing a roll of plastic bags, like those boxes we've seen at the entrance of public parks.
2. If you have a tradition of hosting a christmas party for the neighbors, maybe you can invite this family in? Try to get to know them better, after all you are neighbors. Or just a small christmas gift, i do that every yr for my neighbors. You never know, good neighbors could make youlife easier.
Happy holidays!
It is, after all, an elderly individual holding a young toddler, dragged along by a dog, with another child in tow, up and down a steep slope. Speaking of a high risk situation!
遛狗时从不让狗在人家草地上走，除非是邻居邀请，和邻居家的狗一起玩。
养狗的人，这是起码能做到的。。狗的天性是狗的天性，但是狗主人也完全可以避免给邻居添麻烦。
远亲不如近邻，这话很有道理。有些邻居很值得交往，有些则要敬而远之。我家和有的邻居是好朋友，有些就保持距离。
然后他上班时候就收到很多很多邮件，有个什么人走过就发个邮件过来。。
There is a nature preserve just two minutes from the their house, easy access through public roads. It is a big, flat, and beautiful park with marked paths for humans and dogs. Why can’t their dog mark it’s territory there? The park is quite nature oriented. If the dog relieves itself couple of feet off the path, I don’t think the human would even need to pick up after the dog. Alternatively, the dog can mark their own front and back yard. Why the dog just “has to” mark MY front yard on a private road that leads to nowhere is just beyond me. The owner certainly has many options. She picks the option that happens to be the most convenient for her but the least considerate for her neighbors. So, yes, the dog “has to” urinate somewhere. But no, the dog does not “have to” urinate on MY yard.
That said, I don’t think any subtle hint would work with the family. So all I can do is a few little things here and there, and then I will come back here and vent some more...
Happy Holidays! :)
一个人带两个小娃都够呛。。。别说再加一只狗，再上坡下坡了。不出事算运气。。。
希望猫咪没事。
据说我们这有人提议要把没有放芯片的猫一律当pest处理。。好多人要哭了
谁家有大狗，就是吼几声，也能把他们都吓到。。不是好玩的事。
老太每次来遛狗，邻居的狗总会大叫。不过，那么小的观赏狗，估计连小松鼠都吓不到的。现在想来，我邻居自己家那么多狗，都从来不在这条私家路上放养或者遛狗，总是开车去公园遛。倒是个外来人员，在这儿大摇大摆的又拉又撒。想想就气。
我知道有些人在公共场合不在乎，但是别人家的草地。。。唉。。
if we can't make people think or do what we think "should" after we made our position clear, that's what i would do if i were in your position. The family is new on the block, IMO, it's always worth a try to get to know them a little better.
We have properly introduced ourselves when they first moved to the neighborhood. Knocked on their door, brought cookies, a list of local service providers, the whole nine yards.
That is how we know of the name of each the family members, each member’s age, their careers, etc. Not sure what else is there to know other than their determination to use our private road as their dog’s private bathroom.
我先前也看到了路上的“肥料”。不过今天亲眼看见别人若无其事把我邻居家院子当游乐场，把我家草地当厕所，真是又心疼又上火。的确还需要修炼。
好象也不贵，你去查查哪种合适。大多是做成鸟房子样子不显眼，可以cover 方圆几到十几米。去狗一下ultrasound dog repellent. 对人畜和植物都无害。
也算是个Option吧
超声仪不知道覆盖面积多大，它们是前后院围栏都能窜得过来。。
我家住在一条私人封闭小路上。三户人家共有的路，也是进出的唯一通道。三家自己出钱出力负责美化清理，扫雪扫叶，种树砍树，铺路维护。小镇对小路不付责任。虽然麻烦些花销大些，但因为进出的人和车辆基本就是局限于三家人和来访的朋友，所以很安静，有privacy，也算是觉得认了吧。
最近小路外的大路边来了一户新人家。夫妻都是有respectable的工作，两个学龄前小孩加一条狗。挺标准的郊区白领家庭。自从他们搬来，他家的nanny也不知道是亲戚，每天到我们小路上来遛狗。一个七十多岁的老妇人，手里抱着一个孩子，另一只手牵着狗，有时候还得牵着大一些的孩子。一拍脑袋就觉得多半不会清理狗粪的。虽然没亲眼看见过这条狗拉屎，但最近这条路上和路边的狗屎从无到有，是事实。
今天娃学校有事我在家，坐在面向前院的窗前，看见这一大两小一条狗又来了。狗是有拴着的，但绳子老长了。那狗很愉快地跑到邻居家前院闲庭信步好大一圈。然后那狗从邻居家晃悠到我家前院，欣赏了一会儿我家邮箱，然后华丽丽地抬起了一条腿。我脑补了一下我家刚粉刷一新的邮箱瞬间被漂黄，再一想最近小路上的团团肥料，真是怒从胆中生。抓了外套就冲出门招呼了。我说，这条是私有路，我们不介意你时不时来遛狗，但最好不要是每一次；另外请不要在我家草地上撒尿。我们维护草本来就够困难的，就算帮我们一把。这老太太倒是挺客气，说，噢，知道了。手一指邻居家院子，“下回我们就尽量让狗在那里排泄”。我语塞，傻傻地又重复了一遍，这条路是我们这三家人共有的，不是public road. 老太太倒是不落一拍，对哦，这家邻居我们见过面了， “She asked us to come visit”。我还在那儿琢磨我邻居是开了绿灯让她到这儿遛狗了，还是客气请她去家里玩呢，老太太就开始叨叨地说她自己的狗才刚去世，她姐姐也差不多时间去世，很伤心，等等。这话题瞬间就跑得没影了。面对一个伤心的老太太，我实在不好意思再说啥，只会顺着她的话聊家常。聊了五分钟，道了再会，她末了强调了一句，尽量不在你家草上撒尿，我说谢谢，就各自走了。
我这回儿越想越不是事情。按理也是小事一桩，可是想想狗屎狗尿，再想想得罪了也算是邻居吧，真是烦。一方面可能是养狗的人和不养狗的人对同一件事的感受程度不一样。另一方面，大概有的人就是没啥自觉意识的，我觉得她不讲道理，她觉得我小题大做。不想撕破面皮的话，好像无解。