问个 Trust 的successor 和 beneficiary 是同一人的问题

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alpha123
楼主 (文学城)

 

家有俩娃,老大已满18岁,老二还得几年。

在美国没有近亲,也没有打算让 朋友做 trust 的 successor. 

那在 revocable trust 里, 

 

以下做法可以么

1, 打算让老大 为 successor,  老二满18 岁后 为 co successor.

2, 限定老大在未到25 岁或未到30 不可以卖房子,股票,只可以支取收益部分。( 比如债券利息,房租)


谢谢

柠檬椰子汁
trustee and beneficiary can be the same person.

Successor trustee will become trustee if both parents passed away.  So what you are asking is:  can a trustee be the same as beneficiary?  

The answer is yes.  Trustee can be the same as beneficiary.  

However, the downside would be since your oldest son controls the trust for himself for a few years, in case during those few years of sole trusteeship, he's sued for debt (causing injury for others, credit card debt etc), the creditor can reach into the trust because he's both trustee and beneficiary (for at least 1/2 of the trust).  

 

a
alpha123
问的是trust 可否指定 successor 在25岁或30岁前没有处理trust 的房产以及股票的权力,只可以支取
a
alpha123
房租以及债券利息。
柠檬椰子汁
It's your trust, you can tell trustee whatever you want

You can tell the trustee how to invest, when to withdraw.  It's your money it's up to you to put in whatever you want. 

However, I am not sure an 18-25 year old is mature enough to follow the trust condition.  For example, a few years ago if someone got dragged into bitcoin, it might be tempting to move some money out of trust to invest in bitcoin because they believe firmly they will make 10 times in return.   I can see a 23 year old smartass kid do that in violation of trust requirement. 

This is why the trust is usulaly managed by a trust lawyer or company for young adult beneficiaries.  

a
alpha123
怎么找到比较好的 trust manage company
柠檬椰子汁
Google Trust tax rate ... it easily get to 35%

Trust has to file tax every year, think of what's involved in a Trust before deciding their fee 

Major banks have trust divisions, start there.  Sorry I have no experience in this matter. 

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julie116
不允许卖股票到时候蒸发了怎么办?
柠檬椰子汁
指数基金不会蒸发
a
alpha123
如何指定Trust 的财产只能给婚内配偶,也就是离婚不能带走。
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julie116
不好打保票吧。总觉得现在一切皆有可能
j
julie116
让律师搞定吧。这些都是常见条款
柠檬椰子汁
离婚和死亡是两回事,离婚了信托里面的财产也是两个人说了算。

这些事情确实找律师就是了,在这里问自己也做不好。

最爱荷花
LZ办好后,能回来update一下吗?我们也有同样的困惑
令狐冲.
你认为美国有钱人的钱都是在哪里?巴菲特、一龙、贝索斯的钱都在哪里?知不知道全美的top 1%的富人拥有美国30%的股票?

蒸发你的数字小你同意,人家可不同意

千万别认为美国有钱人的钱,会套成纸币像中国老农民和china town 的新移民一样放床底的鞋盒,又或是像小农思想的百姓一样存银行拿利息,呵呵。These kind of people won't become rich in the first place.

a
alpha123
我的意思是信托的财产只给孩子,若孩子离婚,他们的配偶不能拿到。这个在我们的信托中就可以指定么
a
alpha123
正在办,有律师,咋觉得律师不怎么给力,想换又不好意思。公司的legal plan
a
alpha123
就电话和我们聊聊,也不提供option, 就说我们Successor 若是孩子,那就不能指定孩子到一定年龄才能拿钱。
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julie116
马云的钱不是他个人的。你说的这些也差不多
柠檬椰子汁
废话,本来遗产就不参加分割
柠檬椰子汁
看你这么吃力,去找个律师花两千元好好做一个吧
柠檬椰子汁
你也要共产马云?马云的钱不是他的是谁的?
最爱荷花
找个外面的律师咨询一下,把问题都弄清楚。LZ是想把所有房子,股票,退休账户,银行账户什么的都放到trust里吗?
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julie116
大头不是自己的。你去问他吧