关于大笔Capital Gain的预交税

云起千百度
楼主 (文学城)

如果今年你已经按计划预交了去年联邦税的110%, 那么就不需要再额外预交联邦税了。等到明年4月15号报税截止日前交就可以了。

下面是CHATGPT的回复

ASK: I already paid the estimated tax which is 110% of last year's tax. Do I have to pay extra estimated tax now for large capital gain this year?

REPLY:

If you've already paid estimated taxes that amount to 110% of your prior year's tax liability, you likely meet the IRS safe harbor rule for avoiding penalties, even if you owe additional tax this year due to a large capital gain. Here's how it works:

Safe Harbor Rules

110% of Last Year’s Tax Liability: If your adjusted gross income (AGI) in the prior year exceeded $150,000 (or $75,000 for married filing separately), paying 110% of your prior year's total tax liability as estimated tax generally shields you from penalties.

If your AGI was $150,000 or below, the threshold is 100%.

90% of Current Year’s Tax Liability: If you've paid at least 90% of your current year's tax liability through withholding and estimated payments, you're also protected from penalties.

Do You Need to Pay Extra Now?

If you've already satisfied the 110% safe harbor, you are not required to make an additional estimated tax payment to avoid penalties, even if you owe more due to a capital gain. However, you will still need to pay the balance of any taxes owed when filing your return by April 15, 2025.

Considerations Interest on the Balance: While meeting the safe harbor protects you from penalties, the IRS may charge interest on any unpaid taxes starting from April 16, 2025, if the balance remains unpaid after that date. Cash Flow: If you prefer not to owe a large balance when filing, you might choose to make an additional estimated tax payment by January 15, 2025.
猛牛
谢谢!
高山峻岭流水人家
看样子我弄错了:一直以为预扣去年100%就安全,原来要110%。

今年要交罚款了。

云起千百度
还来的及避免罚款啊,现在补到110%还算预交了
米奇的厨房
跟去年的收入有什么关系?我家每年收入没准头,差很远呢,这么算肯定不行
云起千百度
适用于今年比去年炒股多赚了好多, LOL。 要是今年没去年多, Forget it

适用于今年比去年炒股多赚了好多,那么今年就可能交很多税,那么预交税达到去年的110%就可以了。

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MrsKwok
(预交税达到去年的110%就可以了),是说这笔预交钱得今年已过去的4月份报税截止之前和

那时算出的税钱一起交吧?

比如交10万,那就加上预交的11万,共21万一次性缴,对吗?

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MrsKwok
这样行的话还是合算的,避免罚款和利息。不过得确定未来一年的收入会多过current year.
云起千百度
不是啊。你今年四月份交的是去年的收入该交的税。现在说的是今年收入的预缴税
云起千百度
跟明年收入没关系。是比较今年和去年
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MrsKwok
我的意思是说是不是:今年(2024)4月交去年(2023)税时就得一次性多缴110%的税towards to 2024

税年?

不是的话那不就是按每季度缴吗?

 

南风17
即使交了去年的110%,
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MrsKwok
不是这个意思啊
云起千百度
不是,预缴税按季度缴,4月,6月,9月,明年1月各交1/4
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MrsKwok
Ok.就是说1.15.2025年之前补到2024年4月交的2023年的110%就行了对吧?不好

意思,我说得有点乱。

云起千百度
我明白你的意思了。看上面的回复 :)
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MrsKwok
明白了,可以按季度交。谢谢千百度。
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MrsKwok
谢谢啦
云起千百度
我还真不知道没按季度交是什么policy
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MrsKwok
就是说可以只缴到去年的110%而不是说要match 到今年所估计的,对吗?
云起千百度
我又问了一下ChatGpt, Lol, 这工具真好!建议你跟你家雇的会计师确认一下

Instead of paying quarterly Can I pay the total estimated tax for year 2024 on January 2025? Is there any penalty? 

 

No, you cannot pay your total estimated tax for the entire year of 2024 all at once in January 2025 without potential penalties. The IRS generally requires estimated tax payments to be made on a quarterly basis throughout the year (April, June, September, and January for the following year).

If you miss these quarterly deadlines and don't pay on time, you may be subject to penalties for underpayment, even if you ultimately pay the full amount in January 2025. The IRS calculates penalties based on the amount of tax due and how late the payment is, and they can apply interest and charges for any underpayment during the year.

However, there are exceptions to penalties if your total tax due is below a certain threshold or if you paid withholding that covered your estimated payments. It’s a good idea to check the IRS Form 2210 (Underpayment of Estimated Tax) or consult a tax professional to see if you qualify for any exceptions or safe harbor provisions.

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MrsKwok
谢谢千百度,我以前不知道这110%安全港法则,这么一来就简单了。我们自雇都有预缴季度税,就是预估的

有时会多有时会少,过后补缴或退税。

知道这个就好办许多了。

是不是得敲会计脑袋了啊……LoL 

再次感谢。

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funpiano-MD
罚款是百分之几?
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Progressive
可以。11万是你withholding24年的税。这样你不需要24年每个quarter去交预交税,也没有penalty

但是IRS可能会要收你欠税利息。这是按照楼主提到的今年开始的新规定。

 

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MrsKwok
但为什么会被收欠税利息?按上面的比方,我已经把2024的全年本应分配到各季度的预缴税更加提前的在

2024年4月份一次性全缴了,并没有欠税啊。

谢谢progressive.

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Progressive
11万是你交23年税的110%,这个和你24年的收入没有啥联系。比如你24年赚了100万,你预交的税可能就不够了。

如果给24年报税时你会要补交税给IRS,你可能会有欠税利息。

如果给24年报税时是IRS退税给你,你应该没有欠税利息了。