转发《存了太多退休账户的钱怎么办?》及文章后的一个留言

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楼主 (文学城)

刚在文学城“博客精选”栏目浏览到博主菲儿天地的文章《存了太多退休账户的钱怎么办?》;文章值得一读,而在给这篇文章的留言中的zhshqg网友的分享令人思考,使我想起30多年前给我们提供投资股市建议的一位美国长者朋友说的话“time in the market is more important than timing the market “。我是相信这位网友的分享,但对是否转Roth IRA与他有不同的看法。

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wd6
我觉得TA应该转Roth,至少取到24%边际税率的量

不然每年RMD越来越高,要交的税也越来越高

 

麻你
退休以后要慢慢根据税率上限年年慢慢转入ROTH
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hz82000
wow,谢谢分享
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QuantFields
甚至应该提前退休,主动创造几年边际收入税率低的年份,把钱一点点转到Roth
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QuantFields
高收入最适合存税前401K,存的时候省税就最多。然后收入高就有条件提前退休,在最低税率时把钱转进Roth,完美
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tom_high
我可能没那种烦恼,钱没那么多
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hhtt
他转得太晚了!我一直叫大家在退休后,趁税率低时,赶紧转!62岁到73岁有11年的时间,不用全转光!
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一并谢谢楼上三位坛友的分享讨论,我也认为应该转Roth。
猛牛
教训啊!退休账户还是不要存太多为好(zt)

教训啊!退休账户还是不要存太多为好! - 猛牛发表于 投资理财 - 论坛 | 文学城 (wenxuecity.com)

啊哈哈哈。。。。。。。。。。。。。。

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hhtt
10米在RMD的第一年,九叔要你交你提取的那份,是40万!25%税率,10万没了!
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不客气,好文大家共享。
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谢谢分享,言之有理;我认识的朋友中有人就是这样做的。
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现在没有,说不定将来就有了,投资复利的power非常可观。
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谢谢糊涂兄好心好意地提醒大家。
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谢谢牛司令。退休帐户太大确实是教训。
麻你
俺在65的时候还有一笔SRP也是麻烦
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幸福的烦恼:-)
福虎
要这样想,提40万交10万税,这些10米的钱都是白来的,他自己什么都没做。

不能什么好事都不拉下,一点成本都不花

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burrito
关键是他也不知道过去5年退休金账户double呀
福虎
炫耀,哈哈哈哈
鲤鱼洲
可是我记得你以前也经常说无人可预料未来的税率,提前交税就是耍流氓, :-) 吓得我忍了好久才敢单开一篇,专门

讲ROTH Conversion 的事。 这也是在看到几位硅谷40多岁码工的401K 已到几米,才壮起鼠胆提了提ROTH Conversion,这个动作的本身就是提前交税。 而且对于未来的税率的预判是涨。

 

麻你
您用茅台刷锅洗碗,俺舍不得

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没有double之前,已经接近5米,还是值得考虑转一部分到Roth。
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我记得你写的那篇文章,印象很深。谢谢你的分享。
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hhtt
能晚交的税,一定不早交!我这前提在退休后,因为多数人的税率会低,所以是转的机会!
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hhtt
还有退休后,可以考虑搬去没有州税的州,这又起码省了5到13 %!
梦想居士
可不可以捐给Trust或DAF,不用付税,呵呵

https://moisandfitzgerald.com/how-do-i-make-charitable-donations-from-my-401k/

 

How do I make charitable donations from my 401(k)?

Direct donations from a 401(k) to charity on a tax favored basis are not possible. However, direct donations to charities from IRAs, called Qualified Charitable Distributions, are permitted. There are a few requirements to make those donations completely tax-free, chief among them is you must be 70½ years old at the time of the donation.

If you want to make a QCD but do not have an IRA, you will first need to get money into an IRA. The most common methods are to transfer retirement accounts from a former employer to an IRA or, if allowed by your current plan, perform an in-service distribution and transfer some of your active 401(k) funds to an IRA account. Your plan’s Summary Plan Description will say if in-service distributions are permitted.

Once funds are in an IRA there are a few requirements to get the tax break:

You can donate to as many charities as you like as often as you like up to a total of $100,000 per taxpayer, per year. With planning, a couple can donate up to $200,000 in a tax year. The checks must be made payable to the charities. The charities must be 501(c)3 public charities. You must be at least 70½ years old at the time of the donation. If you have made deductible contributions to the IRA since turning 70½, those contributions will cause the donations to be taxed until all of those post 70½ contributions have come out of the account.

Facilitating a QCD is fairly simple: request a distribution form from the provider holding your IRA. Most IRA providers will give you the option to have the check mailed to the charity or to you, so that you can present the check in a more personal manner. Remember, regardless of where the check is mailed, the check should be made payable to the charity, not to you.

Alternatively, many IRA providers will provide a checkbook on the IRA for QCD purposes. Just make sure the charity cashes the check before December 31, so the donation is properly included on the 1099-R the provider will issue.

哈密顿
不能直接捐。但取出来捐掉效果是一样的。因为取出来加到当年收入里,捐掉再从当年收入里减到。但捐赠抵税额度有比例限制
梦想居士
IRA可以,在前一贴的链接内
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一并谢谢二位的讨论分享。
越王剑
捐给越王慈善基金,马上可以省税
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好主意:-)。