报税loss carryover 的问题

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mimibird
楼主 (文学城)

有个白玉房这几年都是负的loss,,报税的会计说,一般每个房子的loss都是自己carryover,直到这个房子赚钱去互抵,如果想和别的出租房的正赢利相抵,就需要选择choose to treat all properties as one

请问一下这两种选择哪个更合适?选择绑定,还是分开算好?大家都怎么选?

柠檬椰子汁
当然要看你具体情况,哪个房子是不是要马上卖,怎么能说哪个比哪个更好呢
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mimibird
如果不马上卖房,现在选绑定,将来如果卖,算账的时候怎么做才能分岀来要卖的那一个?
柠檬椰子汁
绑定了以后就不能分开了,卖一个房子可以用所有的loss carryover抵税。

下面这个节选分析了你可以根据你自己的情况分割合并计算自己的生意,比如按类型,按地区,或者都合在一起。

自己看一下,不懂再来问。

 

https://www.irs.gov/instructions/i8582

 

Grouping of Activities

Generally, one or more trade or business activities or rental activities may be treated as a single activity if the activities make up an appropriate economic unit for the measurement of gain or loss under the passive activity rules.

Whether activities make up an appropriate economic unit depends on all the relevant facts and circumstances. The factors given the greatest weight in determining whether activities make up an appropriate economic unit are:

Similarities and differences in types of trades or businesses,

The extent of common control,

The extent of common ownership,

Geographical location, and

Interdependencies between or among the activities.

 

Example.

 

You have a significant ownership interest in a bakery and a movie theater in Baltimore and in a bakery and a movie theater in Philadelphia. Depending on all the relevant facts and circumstances, there may be more than one reasonable method for grouping your activities. For instance, the following groupings may or may not be permissible.

A single activity.

A movie theater activity and a bakery activity.

A Baltimore activity and a Philadelphia activity.

Four separate activities.

 

Once you choose a grouping under these rules, you must continue using that grouping in later tax years unless it’s determined that the original grouping was clearly inappropriate or a material change in the facts and circumstances makes it clearly inappropriate.

 

The IRS may regroup your activities if your grouping fails to reflect one or more appropriate economic units and one of the primary purposes of your grouping is to avoid the passive activity limitations.

守月
我两种都试过,用turbotax,选”绑定一个“或”不在列表中“,显示自己要付税的数字都一样。我也没搞懂有何区别。
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mimibird
我理解绑定应该可以现在多减,否则要carryover,不知道为什么结果都一样
守月
事实上,绑定与不绑定当年我要交的税都一样,所以就选择了不绑定。我不懂其中的计算方式和税务依据。
m
mimibird
那绑定有什么不方便的地方吗?
m
mimibird
这个比较奇怪,按说绑定可以把A房的旧账用在B房上
柠檬椰子汁
绑定当然更灵活,loss可以互相用。

一个房子买的时间长,贷款利息少了,净利润多要交税;另一个房子刚刚买,贷款利息多,有loss。这两个房子就互相对冲,灵活啊。

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bingze
我用turbotax,默认就是几个房子捆绑在一起.还是绑定好.
守月
turbotax上只有一个门牌号对应一个门牌号的“绑定”,或者就是“不在此列(所列门牌号)”,没看见几个房子互绑的选择。
绣球花开
如果现在税率高, 绑定比较好 可以不要交有盈利的房子的稅
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goodhouse99
是,turbo tax各个房子自己carry over