Moderna 的三个新疫苗临床试验结果很不错,要进入最后的三期临床试验。

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HenryLi
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如果被批准最后上市的话,就摆脱了只有一个产品(Covid 疫苗)在市场的局面。 当然还需要时间。

 

MRNA 去年股价跌了45% , 但是从去年11月份的低谷到现在差不多翻倍了。

 

Those vaccines include a shot against norovirus, a highly contagious stomach bug that causes vomiting and diarrhea; a vaccine against Epstein-Barr virus, a common herpes virus that can cause contagious infections and is associated with some cancers; and a shot designed to target a virus that causes shingles and chickenpox.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

加州阳光123
赞Moderna 不断有新的突破,为什么有的实验几十年到不了临床实验阶段一直没有突破?
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HenryLi
米奇这方面了解得比我多。反正药品研发方面需要投入非常多,所以一旦新药成功,专利期内药价会相当贵。老是

看到阿猫说过好几次他所在的实验室做的乳腺癌方面研究的东西好像有点突破,每次我都是在心里呵呵。

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HenryLi
三个疫苗中的两个跟我们每个人都有密切相关的情况。
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HenryLi
每三个美国人中会有一个一辈子中会得带状疱疹
顺时而行随心則安
加拿大这边儿至少7-8年前two shots 带状疱疹已经给50岁以上人群使用了

严格讲这三种疫苗都不是创新, 至多算得上升级版

加州阳光123
LOL
加州阳光123
美国这边50岁以上也建议打 shingles vaccine
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HenryLi
里面说的三个疫苗中的前面两个目前市场上都没有批准的产品:

There is currently no approved shot to prevent norovirus, the most common cause of the stomach flu. The virus results in approximately 200,000 deaths per year and substantial health-care costs, according to Moderna. 

The company examined two different norovirus shot candidates in a phase one trial on more than 600 patients ages 18 to 80.

An interim analysis showed that a single dose of a trivalent vaccine, called mRNA-1403, targeting three strains of norovirus triggered a strong immune response across all dose sizes. The shot also had a “clinically acceptable” safety profile. 

Moderna said it is moving that shot to a phase three trial. The market for norovirus vaccines represents a $3 billion to $6 billion annual market, according to Moderna. 

There are also no shots currently approved to prevent Epstein-Barr virus. It accounts for more than 90% of cases of a contagious infection known as mono, which can cause fever, sore throat, and chronic fatigue. Both the virus and mono are associated with a higher risk of certain cancers.

Moderna has been developing two shots designed to tackle multiple conditions associated with Epstein-Barr virus. That includes a shot designed to prevent mono, called mRNA-1189, which will move to a phase three study after positive early-stage trial data.

A phase one trial examined that vaccine in patients 12 to 30 years of age in the U.S. The study found that the shot caused an immune response against mono and was well tolerated across all dose sizes.

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几年前我打了带状泡诊疫苗 哪出的不知道
顺时而行随心則安
EB病毒的治疗(应该不是疫苗?) 10年以前Huston医疗中心?就有解锁。

当科技要转化为资本时, 华尔街, 媒体就要做好托儿, 这是他们的使命。 

细思慎行有必要。

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HenryLi
治疗跟疫苗是两码事情。
顺时而行随心則安
明白,是想探讨一下有治愈方法的前提下, 这个疫苗的钱景
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HenryLi
你这个分析有道理的
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cfbingbuzy001
周末我查出来有psvt,一针下去10秒就好了,美国药挺神奇。我转了一些半导体基金到HEALTH CARE 了

health would have the biggest bargaining power over other demand

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HenryLi
You have paroxysmal supraventricular tachycardia? I recall

when I was in China about 40 years ago, in my rotation after graduating from medical school, I was treating a patient with that condition with IV injection, extremely effective. 
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cfbingbuzy001
yes, Dr. Li, it was an IV injection,

very fast to take effect, feeling like on a roller coaster for a few seconds, then all calm and beat normal.

I had more episodes after recovery from  Covid or vaccine in high intensity excercise, like once a year. I didnot know what it was untill last Sunday.

米奇的厨房
主要是失败的机率太高,阿猫从来没有做过full development,他做的基本上算discovery或者更早

连early stage development 都算不上。他不知道还需要多少resource才能完成从他这里出去的成功的candidate,所以他一直狠乐观。我经过多了2期数据很好,三期却完全失败的案例,比较悲观。因为绝大部分在实验室数据好的,最后都是以失败告终的。

打工崽的退休梦
任何小概率成功但有益社会的事情都需要一批有理想的人开始。

很多药物的起始阶段都靠实验室的研究,mRNA疫苗十年前有多少人看中呢。。。说我缺乏勇气的,其实是不懂我take的risk...

如果从投资角度看,我这一博的回报还算不错。60岁就进入可退可不退的阶段。如果健康容许,我可能陪老板一起老去。。。前15年很辛苦,后10年很轻松,还可能一直玩下去。。。但我知道,大多我这样的博士后没有这样的运气,不仅仅是药物筛选上走这么远,更可能饭碗中间就丢了。

从没为自己的选择后悔。你让我把leads转给你们公司,我不敢,也没这个权利,所以,我不回你。你是我校友,在家坛的时候就知道。母校出来的,我们生物系的,有志向的人很多。我同班不同专业的同学就有搞成功,卖给大公司后发财了,去加州买葡萄园的,他的酒我喝了好几瓶了。他不仅自己发财,还捐赠给母校帮助贫困生,现在有出山办药物公司。。。