The United States lost 578 UAVs (554 over Vietnam and 24 over China).[1]
There were about 11,835 U.S helicopters that served in the Vietnam War. The U.S records showing 5,607 helicopter losses[2]
In total, the United States military lost in Vietnam almost 10,000 aircraft, helicopters and UAVs (3,744 planes,[3] 5,607 helicopters[2] and 578 UAVs[1] ).
这些数字还没有包括越南共和国(南越)空中力量的损失数字,如果加上则更多
The Republic of Vietnam lost 1,018 aircraft and helicopters from January 1964 to September 1973.[4] 877 Republic of Vietnam aircraft were captured at war's end (1975)[5] Of the 2750[6] aircraft and helicopters received by South Vietnam, only about 308 survived (240 flew to Thailand or US warships[7] and 68 returned to the United States[8]).
The United States, along with their allies (The Republic of Vietnam, South Korean, Australian, Thailand, New Zealand), lost about 12,500 aircraft, helicopters and UAVs.
North Vietnam lost 150 – 170 aircraft and helicopters.
AGM-45 Shrike (AGM-45百舌鸟导弹) Description AGM-45 Shrike is an American anti-radiation missile designed to home in on hostile anti-aircraft radar. The Shrike was developed by the Naval Weapons Center at China Lake in 1963 by mating a seeker head to the rocket body of an AIM-7 Sparrow. Wikipedia Designed: 1963 Diameter: 8 inches (203 mm) Guidance system: Passive radar homing In service: 1965–1992 Length: 10 feet (3.05 m) Maximum speed: Mach 1.5 Operational range: 16 km AGM-45A, 40 km AGM-45B
F-4 Phantom II—445 total, 382 in combat First loss: operational (non-combat), F-4C 64-0674 (45TH TFS, 15th TFW) which ran out of fuel after strike in SVN on 9 June 1965; first combat loss F-4C 64-0685 (45th TFS, 15th TFW) shot down Ta Chan, NW NVN on 20 June 1965. 9 of the losses were parked aircraft struck by rockets. Final loss: F-4D 66-8747 (432d TRW) on 29 June 1973. F-5 Freedom Fighter—9 total First loss: 1965, final loss: 1967 F-100 Super Sabre—243 total, 198 in combat First loss: 1964, final loss: 1971 F-102 Delta Dagger—14 total, 7 in combat First loss: 1964, final loss: 1967. 4 of the combat losses were parked aircraft. F-104 Starfighter—14 total, 9 in combat First loss: 56–0937 (476th TFS, 497th TFW) shot down by enemy ground fire during CAS mission near Tri Dao, Vietnam, on 29 June 1965, pilot Capt. R. Cole rescued[10]:?24? Final loss: 57-0922 (435th TFS, 8th TFW) operational loss due to engine failure on 14 May 1967 in Thailand, pilot name unknown, survived[10]:?100? A U.S. Air Force F-105D Thunderchief shot down F-105D Thunderchief—335 total, 283 in combat First loss: 62–4371 (36th TFS, 6441st TFW) written off from battle damage over Laos 14 August 1964, at Korat, Thailand Final loss: 61–0153 (44th TFS, 355th TFW) shot down Laos 23 September 1970, pilot Capt. J. W. Newhouse rescued F-105F/G Thunderchief—47 total, 37 combat First loss: EF-105F 63-8286 (13th TFS, 388th TFW) shot down by AAA RP-6 July 1966, Maj. Roosevelt Hestle[13] and Capt. Charles Morgan KIA Final loss: F-105G 63-8359 (Det.1 561st TFS, 388th TFW) shot down by SAM 16 November 1972, RP-3, crew rescued F-111A Aardvark—11 total, 6 in combat First loss: mission-related TFR failure, 66-0022 (428th TFS 474th TFW, Project Combat Lancer), 28 March 1968, Maj. H.E. Mccann and Capt. D.L. Graham MIA Final loss: 67–0111 (474th TFW) mid-air collision over Cambodia, 16 June 1973, both crewmen rescued
最开始也吃了一些亏,有些炮瞄雷达车被炸毁,但总部派出专家小组到战场实地考察后发现了原因,官兵群策群力很快想出来办法,虽然关机把雷达车开走就行了,但是那样会让防空部队得不到目标信息,对击落敌机不利,所以要想保持空情信息不断,最好办法就是2-3部雷达轮流开机,不断向防空阵地提供信息,当雷达上监视到反辐射导弹接近到若干公里后,甲雷达车关机开走,远距离外的乙雷达开机,当敌导弹飞向乙雷达接近到一定距离后乙雷达关机开走,丙雷达(或原先的甲雷达)再开机,这样敌导弹会往返飞行在几个雷达之间最后燃料耗尽坠毁。当然美军也在有些导弹上加装记忆电路,还攻击原来的位置。但雷达车早已经开走,只能炸到雷达车原先停留的位置。
如果只有一部雷达,办法也是有的,一开始用手动大幅度甩天线的办法就能让导弹失去目标,后来导弹改进后可以捕捉到雷达旁瓣信号,这个办法就不大好用了,就改成当导弹接近时缓慢将雷达天线转到负15度角,导弹会在距离雷达数百米处触地爆炸。所以美军和以军尽管在中东战场上和贝卡谷地使用反辐射导弹战果辉煌,但这种导弹在越南战争中却没有起到什么作用。而且在雷达向防空火力持续提供目标信息的情况下还有不少攻击机被击落。
而同时苏军的却没有。
想来想去,最后想了(不记得了)什么妙法,让美军炸苏军而不是我军。
那时的少年总是为我军的智慧佩服感动。
中国高炮部队抗美援越防空作战:击落美机1707架 2009年11月03日 16:24华夏经纬网【大 中 小】 【打印】 共有评论4条
美国在侵略越南的战争中,把轰炸越南北方铁路、公路,破坏交通线,作为其侵越战争的重要战略目的,使北越仅有的几条铁路基本上处于瘫痪状态。1965年8月1日至1969年3月,中国人民解放军先后派出9批高炮部队,共16个支队辖63个团及部分独立高炮营、高机连和勤务分队,总计15万人轮换入越,主要担负河内至友谊关铁路线北宁至谅山段、河内至老街铁路线安沛至老街段、新建的克夫至太原铁路线,以及太原钢铁基地等地区的防空作战任务,并掩护中国援越工程部队的施工。援越高炮部队入越后,以相对落后的高射火器同使用世界上最先进空袭兵器的美国侵略军进行了艰苦激烈的斗争,有效地保卫了所负责的重要目标,保障了工程部队施工任务的完成。
1965年8月1日,首批中国援越高炮部队61、63支队分别由云南、广西入越。61支队于8月5日抵达安沛后,连夜将数吨重的高炮等装备用人力拉、扛到山上,迅速作好战斗准备。9日就遇到美空军2架F-4飞机前来轰炸,61支队立即组织对空射击,击落美机1架。63支队也于23日在克夫地区取得击落、击伤美机各1架。两支队初战告捷,极大地鼓舞了入越参战高炮部队的斗志。
8月30日,中央军委发出指示,要求各高炮部队再接再厉,发扬顽强作战的光荣传统,给入侵美机以更加有力的打击。援越高炮部队根据美机空袭规模日益增大的情况,调整了兵力部署。
美机对越南北方的轰炸,使用了世界上最先进的空袭兵器。使用的飞机主要有:F-105型、F-4C型、F-111型战术轰炸机,SR-71型、B-52型战略轰炸机;使用的炸弹和杀伤弹有:电视制导炸弹、“百舌鸟”空对地反雷达导弹、小斗犬战术导弹、重磅炸弹及定时炸弹,气浪弹、钢珠弹、菠萝弹、汽油弹等。中国援越高炮部队认真研究美机活动特点,研究打击美机新的作战方法和对付美机攻击的战术,在激烈残酷的防空作战中,英勇顽强,不怕牺牲,给来犯美机以坚决有力的打击。
10月5日,19架美军飞机对宋化铁路桥实施轮番轰炸,袭击掩护该桥的中国援越高炮部队63支队。63支队高炮某团同美机展开激战,击落美机5架,击伤1架。1966年5月31日,美机出动30批共109架飞机轰炸安沛,向中国高炮67支队阵地和掩护目标投下大量“波萝弹”、“子母弹”、气浪弹等各种炸弹,67支队的两个团在40摄氏度的高温下冒着硝烟烈火和阵地上横飞的弹片,同连续俯冲轰炸扫射的美机进行英勇搏斗。经过长达3小时17分钟的战斗,共击落美机16架,击伤10架,俘飞行员4名。
1967年3月10日和11日,美军出动33批107架飞机轰炸太原钢铁基地。保卫该基地的62支队在两天的战斗中,共击落美机18架,击伤5架,俘飞行员10名。11日下午的战斗中,4批16架F-105型美军作战飞机分4路向高炮阵地攻击,并向阵地炮瞄雷达发射3枚“百舌鸟”导弹。62支队的指战员发现美机发射导弹后,立即关机,使“百舌鸟”失去攻击目标,各高炮迅即用光学瞄准具捕捉目标,向敌机猛烈开火。用此种办法,制伏了美军的先进兵器,一举击落美机5架。
为了有效地打击美机,援越高炮部队在对道路、桥梁、车站、施工部队等进行重点掩护的同时,还根据美机来袭航路的规律、活动的特点,对美机实施机动伏击作战,适时转移阵地,出其不意地打击来犯美机,达到了既有效地保存自己、又有力地打击美机的目的。据9个支队统计,在机动伏击作战中,共击落美机125架。
中国援越各高炮支队和各工程支队的防空部(分)队,在3年零9个月的防空作战中,共作战2153次,击落美机1707架,击伤1608架,俘美军飞行员42名。中国援越高炮部队用鲜血和生命保卫了越南北方的领空。1968年3月31日,美国政府迫于国内和国际压力,对越南北方的轰炸开始“逐步降级”,5月13日,越、美两国开始在巴黎谈判。从11月1日起,美军停止轰炸越南北方,中国援越高炮部队于1969年3月中旬前陆续回国。
技术炸不准,炸了很多平民,越战美是防共产入侵东亚.
当时泰国己加入美联盟,停战也自然.
以为读者全是傻瓜。
在整个越战期间,美军因为各种原因损失的固定翼飞机、直升机和无人机加起来超过了10000架。数千架美军作战飞机被北越的高射炮、防空导弹和米格机击落,其中高射炮击落的飞机最多。在固定翼飞机中,F-4鬼怪战斗机是损失最大的飞机,总共损失了678架。
美国空军损失了2200多架飞机,其中1737架是战斗损失。美国海军在战斗中损失了532架飞机,还有320多架因为其他原因损失。美国海军陆战队则是损失了463架飞机,全部是战斗损失。美国陆军还损失了5000多架直升机。另外,还有500多架无人机被击落。
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_losses_of_the_Vietnam_War
The United States lost 578 UAVs (554 over Vietnam and 24 over China).[1]
There were about 11,835 U.S helicopters that served in the Vietnam War. The U.S records showing 5,607 helicopter losses[2]
In total, the United States military lost in Vietnam almost 10,000 aircraft, helicopters and UAVs (3,744 planes,[3] 5,607 helicopters[2] and 578 UAVs[1] ).
这些数字还没有包括越南共和国(南越)空中力量的损失数字,如果加上则更多
The Republic of Vietnam lost 1,018 aircraft and helicopters from January 1964 to September 1973.[4] 877 Republic of Vietnam aircraft were captured at war's end (1975)[5] Of the 2750[6] aircraft and helicopters received by South Vietnam, only about 308 survived (240 flew to Thailand or US warships[7] and 68 returned to the United States[8]).
The United States, along with their allies (The Republic of Vietnam, South Korean, Australian, Thailand, New Zealand), lost about 12,500 aircraft, helicopters and UAVs.
North Vietnam lost 150 – 170 aircraft and helicopters.
如果距离30公里时关机开走就还有44秒,除非这部车子发动不起来,否则按照60公里时速每秒能开出16.6米,29秒可以开出去近500米,44秒可以开出去700多米
AGM-45 Shrike (AGM-45百舌鸟导弹) Description AGM-45 Shrike is an American anti-radiation missile designed to home in on hostile anti-aircraft radar. The Shrike was developed by the Naval Weapons Center at China Lake in 1963 by mating a seeker head to the rocket body of an AIM-7 Sparrow. Wikipedia Designed: 1963 Diameter: 8 inches (203 mm) Guidance system: Passive radar homing In service: 1965–1992 Length: 10 feet (3.05 m) Maximum speed: Mach 1.5 Operational range: 16 km AGM-45A, 40 km AGM-45B
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Orbital ATK and Northrop Grumman (AGM-88E)
US$870,000 for AGM-88E[1]
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The AGM-88 HARM (High-speed Anti-Radiation Missile) is a tactical, air-to-surface anti-radiation missile designed to home in on
看这段,炮瞄雷达与环视雷达配合使用,监控距离可达200公里。
炮瞄雷达有两个特殊的本领。一是能够自动跟踪目标。二是可以同时自动地控制多门高炮,使它们的炮口始终对准敌机。它装有一套自动跟踪的机器,第一次发现敌机后,这套自动跟踪的机器就开始工作,雷达天线便自动地跟着敌机运动。不管敌机怎么飞,雷达波束就好像被它吸住了一样,始终牢牢地盯住它不放。但炮瞄雷达的波束很细,寻找目标比较困难,因此它通常总是跟一部“环视雷达”配合在一起工作。环视雷达是一种探测距离为100~200公里的中程雷达,它的任务是环视四周,全面掌握空情,并给炮弹雷达预先指示敌机的大致方位、距离,甚至炮瞄雷达跟踪哪架飞机,也由它来指挥。
不需要打电话,各个阵地都有电台的在同一频道。雷达车关高压再加一脚油门就走了。
不过用一个老兵对五十年前的吹嘘能说明什么问题呢?
但要慢转,保持导弹在雷达波束主瓣中,跟着波束落地
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_US_aircraft_losses_to_missiles_during_the_Vietnam_War
你仔佃读你的英文来源注释,就知不可信,其中有一个非直升机损失,用自我loop注释
List of US aircraft losses to missiles during the Vietnam War
F-4 Phantom II—445 total, 382 in combat First loss: operational (non-combat), F-4C 64-0674 (45TH TFS, 15th TFW) which ran out of fuel after strike in SVN on 9 June 1965; first combat loss F-4C 64-0685 (45th TFS, 15th TFW) shot down Ta Chan, NW NVN on 20 June 1965. 9 of the losses were parked aircraft struck by rockets. Final loss: F-4D 66-8747 (432d TRW) on 29 June 1973. F-5 Freedom Fighter—9 total First loss: 1965, final loss: 1967 F-100 Super Sabre—243 total, 198 in combat First loss: 1964, final loss: 1971 F-102 Delta Dagger—14 total, 7 in combat First loss: 1964, final loss: 1967. 4 of the combat losses were parked aircraft. F-104 Starfighter—14 total, 9 in combat First loss: 56–0937 (476th TFS, 497th TFW) shot down by enemy ground fire during CAS mission near Tri Dao, Vietnam, on 29 June 1965, pilot Capt. R. Cole rescued[10]:?24? Final loss: 57-0922 (435th TFS, 8th TFW) operational loss due to engine failure on 14 May 1967 in Thailand, pilot name unknown, survived[10]:?100? A U.S. Air Force F-105D Thunderchief shot down F-105D Thunderchief—335 total, 283 in combat First loss: 62–4371 (36th TFS, 6441st TFW) written off from battle damage over Laos 14 August 1964, at Korat, Thailand Final loss: 61–0153 (44th TFS, 355th TFW) shot down Laos 23 September 1970, pilot Capt. J. W. Newhouse rescued F-105F/G Thunderchief—47 total, 37 combat First loss: EF-105F 63-8286 (13th TFS, 388th TFW) shot down by AAA RP-6 July 1966, Maj. Roosevelt Hestle[13] and Capt. Charles Morgan KIA Final loss: F-105G 63-8359 (Det.1 561st TFS, 388th TFW) shot down by SAM 16 November 1972, RP-3, crew rescued F-111A Aardvark—11 total, 6 in combat First loss: mission-related TFR failure, 66-0022 (428th TFS 474th TFW, Project Combat Lancer), 28 March 1968, Maj. H.E. Mccann and Capt. D.L. Graham MIA Final loss: 67–0111 (474th TFW) mid-air collision over Cambodia, 16 June 1973, both crewmen rescued
越南战争是“冷战”时期的影响力最大的一场战争,可以说是东西方两大阵营角逐的“国际战争”。
对峙双方都不是单打独斗,而是团队作战,代表西方阵营的大家很熟悉了,美国为首的南越、澳大利亚、新西兰、韩国、菲律宾、泰国……等等。代表东方的究竟有多少“参与者”,大家恐怕就不是很熟悉了,在这里为大家一一介绍:首先是中国和苏联,作为北越在战争中两大“靠山”,中国和苏联对北越必然有不少援助。
《中国共产党历史》第二卷(1949-1978)666页,第一次向全世界公布:“1965年6月9日,第一批中国志愿部队——中国志愿工程第二支队开入越南。中国支援部队援越抗美军事行动由此拉开帷幕……。人民解放军先后派出了防空、工程、铁道、后勤保障等部队,在越南北方执行任务。先后入越的部队共23个支队、95个大队另83个小队,总计32万余人……”
你还是信亩产万斤吧 !
https://media.defense.gov/2010/Oct/01/2001309673/-1/-1/0/ToHanoiAndBack.pdf
数据只包括固定翼的美空军机种:
Amry 光Helicopter 就损失超过五千
夸张数据.充其量2千多架