California's broken green dream

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shuier
楼主 (文学城)

Californian politicians are loud and proud as self-appointed leaders of clean energy. They just forget to add that, officially, they fail to take CO2 emissions into account when importing substantial electricity from other states. Truth be told, the Golden State generously pays its neighbors to do the dirty job for it. Small wonder that Californians scream every time they get their energy bills. They should hold the politicians' feet to the fire on the abovesaid accounting issue.

Money can't buy love---or truth. Green dreamers are bound to be in for a rude awakening.


by 水儿

花似鹿葱
但是有钱总是更豪横啊!
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lovecat08
加州,德州的事最多,不爱听!
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shuier
但知富者愈富,但愿不是贫者愈贫。不少中產已迁出加州。
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shuier
明白。祝两位版主周末愉快!
花似鹿葱
我两个大学同学也在那边,也觉得加州愈来愈。。。。
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lovecat08
我们DC才是事最多了,一月6号,继续中,呵呵呵呵。。。。
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shuier
This January 6 political drama is winding down. So boring.
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shuier
Nominal GDP-wise, it's the world's 5th largest economy.
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renqiulan
Gov Newsom: his state is the world's 4th largest economy.
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shuier
I won't give currency to Gov Newsom's claim.
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renqiulan
I like your pun, for the sake of fun.
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shuier
Pun and fun rhyme.Seriously, post a piece on green tech. OK?
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renqiulan
Yes, Madam!
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shuier
Thank you, Sir!
寒苇
Quite a debunking piece on the green dream!
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shuier
Thanks, Wei Wei.
老键
Sarcasm doesn't help with the future of mankind much

That California imports around 22% of electricity from interstates do not counteract its achievement that nearly 50% of its in-state generation is from renewable energy sources. It is good to have California as  a world leader in clean energy.

The price of coal-fired power is not cheap either nowadays, well above the 5-year average, because of the global energy crisis. 

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shuier
I can't disagree with you more. Their renewables are

questionable at best. You might take their word for it. I respect your choice. By the same token, you don't need to color me sarcastic, which I'm lady enough to put up with. I would rather take official claims with a grain of salt. To round it up, why do Californians have to pay so much more if their state government has been saving so much more? The whole thing doesn't add up. I would suggest that you go to the MIT website and check out their posts about renewable energy sources. Rational people are not sarcastic. They are just skeptical. 

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renqiulan
Hi, 老键! I won't use "sarcasm" to characterize this post.
老键
Hear! Hear!
老键
Sarcasm or not, better to be more positive, right?

A small price we pay, a giant gain for the next generations of us. Besides, it's true the current energy price hike is largely because of international coal prices. If California gets 100% renewable energy in supply, the price will be much more abated.  

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renqiulan
Ask questions. Do some fact-finding. That's positive.
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renqiulan
Hearing is a step closer to listening. I hope.
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ahniu
green 就是一个大忽悠

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ahniu
watch objectivity

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