我接到通知有两笔heloc明年三月开始不能再用了,只能按月开始连本带利把当时剩下的余额还掉

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learner4ever
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我打电话问银行在明年三月份以前,是否还可以用,回答是肯定的。我现在比较纠结的是,是否在明年三月以前拿出这两笔钱来用于扩张,我这两个heloc帐号,都是本来每月操作可以只还利息不还本金,所以每次用都没感觉太大负担。如果将帐号的钱全部用完,明年三月起连本带利计算每月还款不知道会不会出什么意外有没算到的地方,可能最大变数在于利息到底会涨多高,因为条款是利息是非固定的。

天下攘攘
为什么莫名其妙的关heloc 啊
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start2020
看来heloc 在经济可能萧条时,银行也会关吗?
硅谷码工头
不会莫名其妙的关。他是看到风险了。
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DD2020
不能再用那么现在的balance怎么处理?立马付清嘛?
惨白的天使
不能借 只能还 像mortgage一样分期还款
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DD2020
啊!那还行!
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Girlsmom92
这是我为什么说HELOC不能做emergency fund when the real economy gets bad

在2008前,我曾经有过这样的情况。是我的一个度假房。当时也没出租。后来卖了,没有卖到高点,可以说是卖在较低点,因为当时房市己开始下降,一直没舍得降价卖。当然后来也降价卖了。

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hz82000
不是关,规定的,比如20年的,大概15年时就不能借了,只能还
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DD2020
那么,银行会给几个月缓冲吧!能否那个时候把钱取出。当缓冲呢?
柠檬椰子汁
HELOC draw period到期了吗?
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Girlsmom92
以我的情况,利息是很低的,但不知道银行怎么算的,月付一下加大很多,比我正常的mortgage 高很多。搞不清它怎么算了。
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Girlsmom92
我当时没收到通知,但感觉经济不好,就又取了二万备用。结果过几天就收到通知,不能再用了。只能还,不能取
柠檬椰子汁
prime rate + X%, prime went from 3.5% to 7% this year

https://www.jpmorganchase.com/about/our-business/historical-prime-rate

 

Effective Date Rate
11/3/2022 7.00%
9/22/2022 6.25%
7/28/2022 5.50%
6/16/2022 4.75%
5/5/2022 4.00%
3/17/2022 3.50%
3/16/2020 3.25%
3/4/2020 4.25%
10/31/2019 4.75%
柠檬椰子汁
His HELOC draw period expired.

All HELOC has a 10-20 year draw period, and another 10-20 years of repayment period.  You can only get money out during the draw period. 

Don't scare yourself. 

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Girlsmom92
我当时的rate是prime minus something because when I opened HELOC,

The prime was about 7.75 (as I remember), my rate at time is about 4%, then went lower. So my rate was going lower, not higher at time.

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Girlsmom92
I remember when they stopped me withdraw, my rate is about 2

And going lower.

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Girlsmom92
没有回去,当时prime rate 高,都是prime-x
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Girlsmom92
In my case, it was not. I bought the house in 2004.

The hehoc account is definitely less than 5 years when the bank stopped me withdraw 

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Girlsmom92
The bank’s reason is the house value is down which is valid

For example, you have house valued at $500k when do heloc and get $200k heloc. Now, the house value is $300k, so you have no money left. 

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learner4ever
我估计是这种原因,本来好像是6-8年draw period,我是2014年左右做的heloc

不过我从来没有全部用完过,总是很快就还清了,我基本上就把这两个heloc accounts当作买房子用的大信用卡。

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DD2020
这么好的科普文居然没人点赞。。我来点!
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Girlsmom92
Attached a picture when I sold the house show I paid back

The heloc amount showed is at 2010. The rate I paid is 2.74%. Prime at the time is 3.25%. The draw expiration date is 2015 but credit amount is 0 already even though technically I still have about 80K left.

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Girlsmom92
Also I remembered wrong, it is not year 2008, but 2010
大年
Makes sense. Home equity loc, equity跌没了,自然没有credit可以用了。
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alpha123
10 year bond rate 和 Fed fund rate 之间有啥关系么
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Girlsmom92
Yes. That’s why it keeps crashing for a few years.

It caused more defaults.

大年
嗯,银行又看见风险了,现在是降低借贷比例的时候
柠檬椰子汁
长期利率和短期利率有关联(correlation),但是没有因果(causation)。要是谁能回答这个问题,谁就能赚大