有关男女朋友租约的问题求教

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Girlsmom92
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第一次长租遇上难题:

男女朋友合租,通过Zillow 申请的。男的申请的,申請时填的wife,后来说是女朋友。当时用了Zillow 的申请, 女方名字加在lease上,但没有再查,因为男方条件不错。现在住了半年多一点。现在问题来了,女方搬出去,吵架,男方说女方拿他的东西,害怕她回来再拿,希望把女方除名。我电邮女方,问是否搬出,是否要签remove name Amendment. 女方先要求把水电转男方名,男方照办。再问是否签,she emailed back:

"If you can please send me a document stating the dates that I was on the lease, for the purpose of litigation against XXXX for disposing of my items without my permission. Once I receive that, I will sign and send back."

i replied

"As I know, you have the signed lease. I don’t think I need to provide any more documentation to you to prove that. "
 

now, she doesn't reply me anymore.

 

The thing is, I do want to keep the current tenant, he can pay and willing to do that. But he is afraid his girlfriend come back when he is at work to do damages. So if his girlfriend doesn't remove the name from lease, he might move out too. What I should do next. 

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Girlsmom92
Why the typing in my last paragraph became so small.
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Girlsmom92
即使男的搬走,I still have to go to court to end the lease

Since the girl still on the lease.

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DD2020
我正在deal一个类似的事。我把PM写给他们的信贴给你看看。你可以照抄或改写。
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Girlsmom92
非常感谢!
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DD2020
here it is.我这个情况是两个人都想留下。但是男的信用不够,女的收入差点。是夫妻关系。你自己按照自己的情况改一下

To avoid any confusion or misunderstanding please be advised of the following:

 

-        You are both legally permitted to reside at the residence and are both financially responsible for the entire term of the lease.

 

-        July’s rent is currently 13 days past due.

 

-        You were approved for the property based on BOTH incomes and credit/background. Neither one of you qualify for the property on your own as per your original application and at the time the credit/background was run.

 

-        If the owner were to approve any changes to the lease, and one of you was to amicably vacate, another party would need to qualify and be approved. For example: if Tyrone were to stay, another person would need to qualify and be approved before Jamina could come off the lease. A written letter (email is fine) would need to be sent from Jamina telling us she was vacating. Please note this is an example only and could be the opposite scenario.

 

-        If you were to both vacate (“break the lease”) - you are still rent responsible. Meaning the balance of the lease is due in full $18,500 in order to vacate without penalties. You are still rent responsible for every month the property is vacant.

 

-        If the rent balance is not paid and we file for eviction, you both will have to vacate. Please keep in mind an eviction judgement in PA stays on your credit for 7 years.

 

The rent must be current for any changes or accommodations to be made. All changes are pending owner approval.

 

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Girlsmom92
My case is little different though

The girl moved out. The man have enough salary to pay. It sound like the girl is mad about the boy and just want to bother him thus don't want to remove her name from lease. My guess is the boy always pay the rent, girl only pay utilities. Now the boy pay everything. But the girl still on the lease. The boy does not want to be like that. 

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DD2020
you did not get my point. 你只要告诉女孩她的责任义务就行。我在外面不方便打字。回头跟你说。
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Girlsmom92
谢谢!
柠檬椰子汁
正面交锋不好吧。押金怎么办?分她一半给她点甜头,就签字了。

当时你随便写一封信就办好了的事,偏要和人家顶。有什么好顶的,说不定签字的合约在她前男友那里。

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Girlsmom92
合钓是通过Zillow Doc sign 的。是emailed to her email. I think

She should have it. I feel like she just does not want to sign it.

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Girlsmom92
Also I don’t like to encourage her to legally against

Her boyfriend 

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Girlsmom92
中国人思维总希望他们好和好散

不是和她顶,就想缓冲一下。而且我确实也觉得她就是不想签。因为刚开始时只是要求转水电

柠檬椰子汁
So you are taking a side, that's your problem.

DD2020's idea is useful.  You need to reset the game by sending an email to BOTH of them, reminding them to work things out, otherwise it will be lose-lose.  Don't send an letter just to her, that sounds like taking sides.  

 

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DD2020
水电不管你的事呀。你就是要按照法律enforce lease.她的职责和义务还有你的义务是啥。
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DD2020
你没有责任调节他们的关系。你也没有义务提供不需要你提供的文件。
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DD2020
她需要的文件你可以给她。解决问题就行了。既然他也同意把她从lease里去掉问题不就是解决了吗?然后把锁换掉。让男的出钱。
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Girlsmom92
I don’t think I take side, when the guy messaged me

He reported her girlfriend moved out, he want to remove her name. I basically told him what DD said, he and his girlfriend both legally live there. Also the lease still active. He can't change locks to provent his girlfriend back. I didn't tell the girl same thing since I know he is the one pay the rent, also the girl moved out. Also told him I hope him and her to good together, been friends even though separate. But to the girl, I told her I hope them work out. But not tough enough to mention the financial and responsibility.

might be I need send a more official letter to both of them. Now I might wait little bit since he paid the rent this month. Now, it's still their problem.

Thanks a lot for suggestions!

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Girlsmom92
如果女生沒簽字,不能换锁吧?
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Girlsmom92
现在问题是女生不签字去掉她的名字

所以她应该还可以回去

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DD2020
刚才又仔细看了你的帖子,三种情况

1)你想男的留下还是不想。看你说的是男的有concern。。但是从你的角度,男的单独留下应该是好的。他能付房租,你不需要再招租。按照这个想法,我会给女的要的那个STATEMENT。只是陈述事实,应该没啥。等把女的名字拿掉,再换锁。

 

2)如果你真的不想继续租给任何一个。你没有evict的理由呀。房租都交着。

让他们自己斗去吧。你房租能收到就行。

3)如果男的要搬出,那房租收不到,你就EVICT,两个同时evict。警告他们会有N年record,他们自己就乖乖的走了。

综上所述,出个证明给女的,之后按兵不动,静观其变。

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gqc
你可以写个证明女孩原来是在租约上和她搬出的日期 实事求是地写没什么问题

她拿去干啥跟你没关系的呀 不要把自己绞到人家的纠纷里

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Girlsmom92
我希望第一种。我想是不是重新send her the signed lease in case she can’t

Find her lease anymore.

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DD2020
其实你写个release她from lease,让她签个字就好。等柠檬来说,是不是这样的。
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Girlsmom92
I am just afraid she just use it to against her boyfriend

But she still won't sign the remove name amendment after she got the statement. Also I don't know exact dates she move out. 

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Girlsmom92
我己经发给他们了。男的签了,女的不签。
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DD2020
为啥要发给男的?你不就是想让女的走吗?
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Girlsmom92
修改lease, all parties need agree, right?
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DD2020
我会release女的。和男的再签一个amendment。你现在不是把想留的放了,想放的烂在手里了嘛?
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Girlsmom92
不是,是 “remove tenant” amendment. Just remove the girl
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DD2020
哦。那就赶快给女孩要的文件。说事实,不站边就好了。
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Girlsmom92
我刚把signed original lease 发给她。看她怎么回.
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DD2020
好。祝你顺利。
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gqc
你实事求是地说明情况 她拿去爱干嘛干嘛 法官也不傻 你担什么心呢
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Girlsmom92
我把 original lease 发给她了,应该够了吧。

要是再不签,我也不管了。只是因为想留下男房客,所以做点努力. 

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gqc
本来她已经搬出去了 你跟男的签个协议把女的名字去掉然后通知她就行了

后来她要一个证明你直接给她就是了 你现在追着她签字反而让她以此来拿着你了 自己把自己搞被动了

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Girlsmom92
所以我不再去理她了。是她想为难她男朋友。

直接把她除名,换锁,就该轮到她告我了。