挣钱也分时间段

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USATiger
楼主 (文学城)

估计坛上大部分都是,60和70后。个人觉得挣钱的黄金时期是四十五岁到六十五岁,二十年左右。45岁之前基本上是原始积累,六十五岁后基本上是应该享福的。并且这个时候,安全比挣大钱重要多了。所以说各人的人生位置不一样,对挣钱的risk 也不一样。说到这,我基本上又说了些费话,只是对坛上借不借钱论的一个个人观感

投资看结果,个人觉得这些数字是个目标
一般来说,10年一百万,再十年 一千万,再下次十年,五千万,但是如果你没战功,年轻貌美也行,哈哈哈

 

米奇的厨房
当然是分时间段的,我们08年的时候才工作没几年,07年买了很大的自住房,手边没有钱了,想买投资房也买不了啊

不过,后面可以catch up的,而且现在发现,人和人的差距很大,看看健谈,我很放心,有些人就是要被人骗的,不被真的骗一回是不会回头的。所以不怕以后没钱。

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USATiger
常在河边走肯定会湿脚,我也有房客现在不付租,我一点招也没有。今天warren 老太还要延eviction
米奇的厨房
还好,我至今没有真的不付钱的,可能是因为房子不多吧,我面试所有的租客才行。
常谈
标杆立得太高了

90年代一个401K/IRA 长年的积累过100万,在媒体上被追捧,现在IRA上100万很多人有,要上1000万还是很难,除了极个别的。前两天文学城上有篇博客,说新的税法将限制这样的人往IRA里放钱,年薪40万+IRA过1000万,而且要求每年要把IRA账户值超过1000万的部分拿出一半来。有两个名人会有麻烦,一个是2012年总统候选人Romney,他有2亿在traditional IRA,另一个是Peter Thiehl,有50亿在Roth IRA,如果新税法不放过Roth IRA。

越王剑
挣钱还行的都是老婆比较强势的

老虎也不例外。哈哈。体能不行的时候老虎也得认栽。

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sac
50-60健康最重要了,这是容易出事的年龄
米奇的厨房
是的,所以督促LD多锻炼少吃,不过人家不听也没办法
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mickeylili
这么有道理
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mickeylili
挺符合我的观察
琼溪山房
我家一直都差不多

赚钱要有运气。

 

长生有容
45岁有点晚了。35-55之间比较重要,55之后就该悠着点了。
宇哥
十年一千万?贝版的目标岂是人人都能完成的
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ljty1
说的非常有道理!年轻的时候大干快上倒也可以,失败了损失也不算大还有机会重来;上了年纪就不好这么激进,需要更注意风险控制
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USATiger
看帖不细,明明是二十年,一千万
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USATiger
两个人挣钱肯定比一个人快
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USATiger
这个加州双职工,应该可以的。
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USATiger
各人起点,上学也不一样,你说的也是类似的意思
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USATiger
谢谢,我说的实在可行的,当然每个人不一样,能不能不重要,大概,够用就是行了
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USATiger
谢谢,我们应该算幸运的一代人。
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WHATLOVE
只要生且逢时就能顺势挣钱,45-55退休
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LIZAR
赶上股市大涨吧。股市房市大跌开始,持续十年涨不回来的话,这些不成立了
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USATiger
运气肯定重要,过去的二十年不错哦,接下来10年,我也有信心
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USATiger
谢谢你,说明我说的不是空中楼阁。呵呵
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sparknote
老虎兄太乐观了。再来几次昨天那样的试试。

虎兄弟除外,上下通吃:)

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USATiger
象咋天那种的我等的太久了,能不能多来几次,我就可以在40%基础再多挣一点点,呵呵
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USATiger
因为基本花费已经定了,多挣,可以多存,多存的就可以帮你多挣。soon, u income 不是主要的收入
挨踢
越往后,越容易吧
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USATiger
万事开头难,越往后是钱挣钱,人挣的比例就是开降了,会越来越容易
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DD2020
谁让你做那么好吃的买那么多好吃的火腿
琼溪山房
真的,我们这一批真的很幸运,中美两边的投资机会都很好
天下攘攘
这第一个10年从什么时候算起?

第一个十年的起点是有奖学金的学生时期?还是第一份工作开始算?

感觉1000万到5000 万很难,

不知道楼主有什么计划?可以分享不?

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sparknote
恭喜虎兄过了千万门槛

原来是不声不响的bso :) :)

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USATiger
从工作开始算,地主可以做到平均回报率15到20%pct 左右,按七二法则,18%可以4年翻番

What Is the Rule of 72?

The Rule of 72 is a quick, useful formula that is popularly used to estimate the number of years required to double the invested money at a given annual rate of return.

 

While calculators and spreadsheet programs like Microsoft's Excel have inbuilt functions to accurately calculate the precise time required to double the invested money, the Rule of 72 comes in handy for mental calculations to quickly gauge an approximate value. Alternatively, it can compute the annual rate of compounded return from an investment given how many years it will take to double the investment.

  KEY TAKEAWAYS The Rule of 72 is a simplified formula that calculates how long it'll take for an investment to double in value, based on its rate of return. The Rule of 72 applies to compounded interest rates and is reasonably accurate for interest rates that fall in the range of 6% and 10%. The Rule of 72 can be applied to anything that increases exponentially, such as GDP or inflation; it can also indicate the long-term effect of annual fees on an investment's growth. The Formula for the Rule of 72

\begin{aligned} &\text{Years to Double} = \frac{ 72 }{ \text{Interest Rate} } \\ &\textbf{where:}\\ &\text{Interest Rate} = \text{Rate of return on an investment} \\ \end{aligned}?Years to Double=Interest Rate72?where:Interest Rate=Rate of return on an investment??

                      Volume 75%         1:10 Rule Of 72   How to Use the Rule of 72

The Rule of 72 could apply to anything that grows at a compounded rate, such as population, macroeconomic numbers, charges, or loans. If the gross domestic product (GDP) grows at 4% annually, the economy will be expected to double in 72 / 4 = 18 years.

 

With regards to the fee that eats into investment gains, the Rule of 72 can be used to demonstrate the long-term effects of these costs. A mutual fund that charges 3% in annual expense fees will reduce the investment principal to half in around 24 years. A borrower who pays 12% interest on their credit card (or any other form of loan that is charging compound interest) will double the amount they owe in six years.

 

The rule can also be used to find the amount of time it takes for money's value to halve due to inflation. If inflation is 6%, then a given purchasing power of the money will be worth half in around 12 years (72 / 6 = 12). If inflation decreases from 6% to 4%, an investment will be expected to lose half its value in 18 years, instead of 12 years.

 

Additionally, the Rule of 72 can be applied across all kinds of durations provided the rate of return is compounded annually. If the interest per quarter is 4% (but interest is only compounded annually), then it will take (72 / 4) = 18 quarters or 4.5 years to double the principal. If the population of a nation increases at the rate of 1% per month, it will double in 72 months, or six years.

  Rule of 72 FAQs Who Came Up With the Rule of 72?

People love money, and they love to see it grow even more. Getting a rough estimate of how much time it will take to double your money also helps the average Joe or Jane to compare different investment options. However, mathematical calculations that project an investment's appreciation can be complex for common individuals to do without the help of log tables or a calculator, especially those involving compound interest.

 

The Rule of 72 offers a useful shortcut. It's a simplified version of a logarithmic calculation that involves complex functions like taking the natural log of numbers. The rule applies to the exponential growth of an investment based on a compounded rate of return.

  How Do You Calculate the Rule of 72?

Here's how the Rule of 72 works. You take the number 72 and divide it by the investment's projected annual return. The result is the number of years, approximately, it'll take for your money to double.

 

For example, if an investment scheme promises an 8% annual compounded rate of return, it will take approximately nine years (72 / 8 = 9) to double the invested money. Note that a compound annual return of 8% is plugged into this equation as 8, and not 0.08, giving a result of nine years (and not 900).

 

If it takes nine years to double a $1,000 investment, then the investment will grow to $2,000 in year 9, $4,000 in year 18, $8,000 in year 27, and so on.

  How Accurate Is the Rule of 72?

The Rule of 72 formula provides a reasonably accurate, but approximate, timeline—reflecting the fact that it's a simplification of a more complex logarithmic equation. To get the exact doubling time, you'd need to do the entire calculation.

 

The precise formula for calculating the exact doubling time for an investment earning a compounded interest rate of r% per period is:

 

\begin{aligned} &T = \frac{ \ln( 2 ) }{ \ln \left ( 1 + \frac{ r } { 100 } \right ) } \simeq \frac{ 72 }{ r } \\ &\textbf{where:}\\ &T = \text{Time to double} \\ &\ln = \text{Natural log function} \\ &r = \text{Compounded interest rate per period} \\ &\simeq = \text{Approximately equal to} \\ \end{aligned}?T=ln(1+100r?)ln(2)??r72?where:T=Time to doubleln=Natural log functionr=Compounded interest rate per period?=Approximately equal to??

 

To find out exactly how long it would take to double an investment that returns 8% annually, you would use the following equation:

  T = ln(2) / ln (1 + (8 / 100)) = 9.006 years  

As you can see, this result is very close to the approximate value obtained by (72 / 8) = 9 years.

  What Is the Difference Between the Rule of 72 and the Rule of 73?

The Rule of 72 primarily works with interest rates or rates of return that fall in the range of 6% and 10%. When dealing with rates outside this range, the rule can be adjusted by adding or subtracting 1 from 72 for every 3 points the interest rate diverges from the 8% threshold. For example, the rate of 11% annual compounding interest is 3 percentage points higher than 8%.

 

Hence, adding 1 (for the 3 points higher than 8%) to 72 leads to using the Rule of 73 for higher precision. For a 14% rate of return, it would be the rule of 74 (adding 2 for 6 percentage points higher), and for a 5% rate of return, it will mean reducing 1 (for 3 percentage points lower) to lead to the Rule of 71.

 

For example, say you have a very attractive investment offering a 22% rate of return. The basic rule of 72 says the initial investment will double in 3.27 years. However, since (22 – 8) is 14, and (14 ÷ 3) is 4.67 ≈ 5, the adjusted rule should use 72 + 5 = 77 for the numerator. This gives a value of 3.5 years, indicating that you'll have to wait an additional quarter to double your money compared to the result of 3.27 years obtained from the basic Rule of 72. The period given by the logarithmic equation is 3.49, so the result obtained from the adjusted rule is more accurate.

 

For daily or continuous compounding, using 69.3 in the numerator gives a more accurate result. Some people adjust this to 69 or 70 for the sake of easy

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USATiger
谢谢你,不过你不知道我工作多少年了,呵呵
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USATiger
比如40万房,十万本金,年增长率3%,一万二,贷款还本6千,共他打平,1万八千除10万,回报率18%
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haomahaoma
35-55是黄金时段,50岁以后就要slow down了,如果不注意各种病根就开始悄悄发芽了。
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xinxin76
40岁以前,很多人都不怎么攒钱。吃喝玩乐,养孩子
半生缘
同意