旧文重发:多次打疫苗会怎样 (2022-01-19 18:20:48)

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fuz
楼主 (文学城)

https://blog.wenxuecity.com/myblog/73054/202201/20429.html

 

这都是免疫接种的常识啊,无数教训得来的。这类生物体最基本的免疫反应,不会因为换了个抗原制备方法而改变。

咋就那么信疫苗公司的忽悠、和政客们的嘴脸呢

 

 

更可怕的是

https://blog.wenxuecity.com/myblog/73054/202209/7739.html

 

ps

新闻报道

Data Doesn’t Support New COVID-19 Booster Shots for Most, Says Vaccine Expert

https://time.com/6246525/bivalent-booster-not-very-effective-paul-offit/

 

 

上面报道源自最近刚发表的文章

Antibody Response to Omicron BA.4–BA.5 Bivalent Booster

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2213907

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Boosting with new bivalent mRNA vaccines targeting both the BA.4–BA.5 variant and the D614G strain did not elicit a discernibly superior virus-neutralizing peak antibody response as compared with boosting with the original monovalent vaccines.

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Bivalent Covid-19 Vaccines — A Cautionary Tale

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2215780

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Why did the strategy for significantly increasing BA.4 and BA.5 neutralizing antibodies using a bivalent vaccine fail? The most likely explanation is imprinting. The immune systems of people immunized with the bivalent vaccine, all of whom had previously been vaccinated, were primed to respond to the ancestral strain of SARS-CoV-2. They therefore probably responded to epitopes shared by BA.4 and BA.5 and the ancestral strain, rather than to new epitopes on BA.4 and BA.5. This effect could possibly be moderated by immunizing people either with BA.4 and BA.5 mRNA alone or with a greater quantity of BA.4 and BA.5 mRNA. Evidence in support of these strategies can be found in Pfizer–BioNTech’s data regarding its BA.1-containing bivalent vaccine, which showed that BA.1-specific neutralizing-antibody responses were greater in persons who were injected with a monovalent vaccine containing 30 μg or 60 μg of BA.1 mRNA or a bivalent vaccine containing 30 μg of BA.1 mRNA and 30 μg of ancestral-strain mRNA than in those who received a bivalent vaccine containing 15 μg of each type of mRNA.

On November 22, 2022, the CDC published data on the effectiveness of the BA.4 and BA.5 mRNA vaccines for preventing symptomatic infection within 2 months after receipt of the booster dose. For people who had received a monovalent vaccine 2 to 3 months earlier, the extra protection associated with the bivalent booster dose ranged from 28 to 31%. For those who had received a monovalent vaccine more than 8 months earlier, the extra protection ranged from 43 to 56%.5 Given the results of previous studies, it’s likely that this moderate increase in protection against probably generally mild disease will be short lived. As of November 15, 2022, only about 10% of the population for whom the bivalent vaccine had been recommended had received it.5 By December 2022, the BA.4 strain was no longer circulating, and BA.5 accounted for less than 25% of circulating SARS-CoV-2 strains, having been partially replaced by more immune-evasive strains, such as BQ.1, BQ.1.1, BF.7, XBB, and XBB.1.

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5181
前几天知道一力推mRNA疫苗医生,打过5针mrna依旧染上了新冠.
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hz82000
我们打了三针四针的都羊了,有人第二次羊了
梦想飞鱼
flu为啥年年打?
心程
这个抗原原罪的问题, Fuz在这个健康坛已经提过很多次了, 多次是在回答别人问题的时候.
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hhhh
打了就不去想了 开心过以后的日子
枫林晓
有人故意宣传的结果。让人觉得打的越多越好。
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OceanSound
请问FUZ,两针疫苗占用的90%免疫资源,会不会随着时间的推移减少占用?否则没有多少剩余免疫资源去抵抗别的疾病,得大病

的几率就会大幅增加, 那么阴谋论就确实成立。

 

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TBz
IgA vs IgM+IgG+TB

任何新冠疫苗都不能诱导出 IgA, 而是诱导出后者。

 

IgA:御敌于国门之外

IgG:敌人入侵之后予以掩杀

T+B:强大的后备队

 

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5181
"Mean levels of anti–SARS-CoV-2-specific IgA antibodies .."

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2778766

Results

Eighty-four women completed the study, providing 504 breast milk samples. Women were a mean (SD) age of 34 (4) years and infants 10.32 (7.3) months (Table).

Mean levels of anti–SARS-CoV-2-specific IgA antibodies in the breast milk increased rapidly and were significantly elevated at 2 weeks after the first vaccine (2.05 ratio; P < .001), when 61.8% of samples tested positive, increasing to 86.1% at week 4 (1 week after the second vaccine). Mean levels remained elevated for the duration of follow-up, and at week six, 65.7% of samples tested positive. Anti–SARS-CoV-2-specific IgG antibodies remained low for the first 3 weeks, with an increase at week 4 (20.5 U/mL; P = .004), when 91.7% of samples tested positive, increasing to 97% at weeks 5 and 6 (Figure).

周老大
这不是我们想象中的疫苗,它只提供一些不匹配的抗体,基本上是起着和事佬的作用。flu 就一季,抗体也能撑三个月,正好。
周老大
新冠的疫苗跟flu 疫苗差不多,可是新冠一年四季都在,难道一年四针?
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OceanSound
越来越觉得这个疫苗扮演的是绑架免疫系统的角色,占用90%的免疫资源去监视一个过时的病毒,然后导致防御空虚,不战自败。
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wawa123
俺们一直没有大疫苗啊 可惜被感染了 不纯洁了 ~_^ 反正坚决不打这个mrna疫苗目前
红石榴花
俺们都打了,天没塌,从没感染。谁说好说坏都有自己的脑袋判断,结果也是个体和平均值的区别。:))
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va168
从最新的临床数据看,第三针(6个月之后)还是有用。好像是二阶之后,再打其它的没用.
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newxiaoshuye
打疫苗既是信仰也是政治,你要好心劝Ta三思,Ta就说你是阴谋家和川粉:)