降低8.5 倍的入院风险。

枫林晓
楼主 (文学城)

A study released in September 2020 indicated that gargling with a saline-based solution can reduce viral load in COVID-19, and another released in 2021 suggested that saline works multiple ways to reduce cold symptoms related to infection with other coronaviruses and might work as well as a first-line intervention for COVID-19.

this  time

"We found an 8.5-fold reduction in hospitalizations and no fatalities compared to our controls“

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20220913/Saline-nasal-irrigation-after-COVID-19-diagnosis-reduces-hospitalization.aspx

盐水洗洗,挺好。

哈哈,疫苗一族情何以堪。

 

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我今天接到打4针的疫苗通知了 目前疫情不重 先不打 以后再说

我打了血压要高2个月。

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Michael Osterholm博士告诉财富杂志,Novavax有可能提供比目前的 mRNA疫苗更长更广泛的保护.

https://fortune.com/well/2022/09/17/america-skeptical-novavax-popular-abroad-covid-vaccine-covid19-omicron-booster-coroanvirus-pandemic-epidemic-endemic-cdc-fda/

“What excited some people about it is the fact that it’s very similar to a lot of vaccines produced in the past,” Swartzberg said. “Protein vaccines have been used for decades. For some people, that gives them a degree of comfort, based upon emotion and not science.”

Novavax has the potential to offer longer, broader protection than current mRNA vaccines, Dr. Michael Osterholm, director of the University of Minnesota’s Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP), told Fortune.

But more data on the vaccine is needed to determine the length of protection it offers, as well as its performance against Omicron subvariants. 

“I think it could be a better vaccine,” Osterholm said, though he cautioned that, in the early days of mRNA COVID vaccines, society had “unbridled expectations that ultimately didn’t pan out,” such as the vaccines preventing infection.

Like mRNA vaccines, Novavax protects against severe COVID outcomes like hospitalization and death. But it doesn’t prevent infection or transmission, according to Yale Medicine.

Maryland-based Novavax began developing its COVID vaccine in 2020, during Operation Warp Speed, but manufacturing difficulties slowed progress. Countries began granting the vaccine approval in November.

In the U.S., the two-dose shot series is approved for those 12 and older, with shots occurring three to eight weeks apart. Side effects are similar to mRNA COVID vaccines and include tenderness, pain, and/or swelling at the injection site, fatigue, muscle pain, joint pain, headache, nausea, vomiting, and/or fever, according to Yale Medicine. As is the case with mRNA COVID vaccines, myocarditis—a rare form of heart inflammation—has been reported, though rarely.

Dr. Bali Pulendran, professor of microbiology and immunology at Stanford University, told Fortune he isn’t sure why the U.S. hasn’t yet approved Novavax for use as a booster, giving those who’ve received a two-dose mRNA series another option, aside from newly approved Omicron mRNA vaccines.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration didn’t immediately respond to Fortune’s question as to why the U.S. hasn’t approved the vaccine for use as a booster, though other countries have.

“It’s a terrific vaccine, and I do hope people get access to it if they wish to,” Pulendran said.

 

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文章意思洗鼻降低重症是正确的,健谈好几个同学反复提醒大家洗鼻.
枫林晓
没错。常识又一次战胜了玄幻科技。
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AprilMei
有可能就等于没有。
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AprilMei
疫苗的卖点也是降低重症。
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huntridge
经常看到降低N倍的说法。好奇哪个领域喜欢用这样的说法?是不是有些滥用?
枫林晓
的确是,疫苗宣传中开始使用的,取代了传统的严谨的efficay。

而两者,本来是要是用在副作用较低的条件下。作为衡量医疗手段的效果衡量标准。

在副作用未知,副作用比较大的情况下。需要使用全员全因死亡率。

不过就这一点,洗鼻子,要比mRNA安全多了,基本上,逻辑上可以判断,没有严重副作用。因此,医疗可以用简单的降低N倍,或者efficacy表述。

MRNA等新的疫苗,药物。实际上只谈efficacy,什么降低N倍,都是忽悠人的。因为他们的副作用未知,且已发现的副作用很大。(相对传统药物和疫苗)

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tiger00
这几个月我照顾了好几个阳性病人,回到家淋浴时冲鼻子很久,吃2克维生素C,还好,没被感染过。

上班时戴N95,4小时换一次,戴护眼罩,穿隔离衣。室内配移动性 hepa filter。

不是阳性的病人只戴2级防护口罩了。

平常逛商店等不戴口罩了。

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tiger00
我们也通知了,暂时不准备打,5月初打的第三针

我儿子要打,他得过奥米克隆,说那些症状比N1H1的症状难受多了,而且持续了好几周。

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目的是减少病毒量,把病毒尽可能冲走,用清水就可以了。
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dudaan
前天看到文章说在美国不受欢迎,只有不到七千人打,但在许多欧亚国家受欢迎
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1.是知道人少2.供应药店少.3.受宣传影响,好多人即使感染1,2次以上还信mRNA能防重症之说,而不是病毒毒性降低.
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需要统计来证明.蛋白疫苗和mRNA打入后工作原理不一样.
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5181
清水对黏液溶解度差.而且pH值低于7.4左右洗鼻不舒服.
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制药生化领域喜欢用,直观.
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理论上是的。一般人用清水更便捷些。
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5管里面都通,洗鼻要对自己的鼻粘膜和耳道负责.
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谢谢!学习了!
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Bordeaux94
能介绍一下怎么用盐水洗鼻吗?用棉签沾盐水洗鼻行吗?谢谢
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jiankang888
我就是回家用棉签洗。多少总有点用。
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greenonion
我用花粉过敏的那种洗鼻瓶子

除了过水, 还能让表面分泌一些粘液(鼻涕), 觉得更彻底

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Bordeaux94
谢谢
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Bordeaux94
能贴个这种洗鼻瓶的照片吗?谢谢
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这种洗鼻瓶比较好,平时不接触新冠感染人也没鼻炎也不需要天天洗.

https://www.amazon.com/Croing-Sinus-Rinse-Kit-Premixed/dp/B076GZHS3M/ref=pd_lpo_3?pd_rd_i=B076GZHS3M&psc=1

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julie116
有个亲戚经常洗鼻。一侧耳朵失聪了。才60岁。
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可能是其他原因导致失聪,或没用无菌洗鼻液?应该去5管科检查一下.

如果不会配或无条件配无菌洗鼻液,建议买店里pH balanced配制好的盐袋或液体洗.

https://health.sina.cn/awyh/art/5ef9584b0cf25ef41085f1bc.html

耳朵也可以洗的.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NDW8lLYFpQ

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mimi56
我试过用水, 鼻孔疼, 盐水不会。