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https://www.post-gazette.com/news/education/2025/06/22/carnegie-mellon-student-mental-health-pittsburgh/stories/202506130064

A suspended CMU student died by suicide. His parents are pushing for a mental health review at the university Several semesters in, Rowan de Boer's parents noticed he’d gained weight and lost some of his humor. They didn’t know about his more severe mental health challenges. 

Rowan de Boer was a good student, a skilled swimmer and valedictorian of his class at Allderdice High School. He was silly and well-liked by his peers. He was always smiling, his dad remembers.

In the fall of 2019, Rowan enrolled at Carnegie Mellon University. He studied electrical engineering because it was the hardest engineering program to get into.

Rowan started off his CMU career strong. He got straight A’s, made dean’s list and even served as a teaching assistant.

But several semesters into college, something changed.

Unbeknownst to his parents, Rowan stopped attending classes and isolated himself in his apartment. He wouldn’t respond to friends’ text messages or professors’ emails. CMU eventually suspended him.

Rowan’s parents noticed their son had gained weight and lost some of his humor. They had no idea he was battling severe mental health challenges until he died by suicide on May 13, 2023 — the day he was supposed to graduate.

Now, Rowan’s parents, Maarten de Boer and Venetia Pimley, are pushing CMU to conduct an external review of its mental health policies and procedures.

They believe Rowan slipped through the cracks at the elite institution, alleging the CMU did not follow proper protocol in dealing with Rowan’s academic decline. They also have identified several areas where they’d like to see change at the Oakland school.

“We don’t want other parents to have this experience,” Ms. Pimley said.

Added her husband, a professor of mechanical engineering at CMU: “We’re not the mental health experts. We’re not the ones to say what should be done. We’re just saying we found some very glaring deficiencies in how [CMU] treated Rowan’s case.”

In a statement, CMU said it has made significant investments in services and resources to help its students thrive.

“The death of any student is a tragic loss for the Carnegie Mellon community. The goal is that this never happens to anyone in our campus family,” spokeswoman Cassia Crogan said. “The work to eliminate any loss to suicide is an ongoing effort.”

Rowan’s decline

After Rowan’s death, Mr. de Boer and Ms. Pimley began to piece together the parts of their son’s life that he had hidden from them.

During Rowan’s fifth semester of college, his grade point average dropped from 4.0 to 1.8. By the end of that semester, Rowan was put on academic probation, and by the sixth semester, he had stopped attending classes altogether.

But Rowan’s academic adviser never reached out to him about his academic decline or probation, his parents said after reviewing their son’s school emails. Two professors contacted him via email to see why he wasn’t attending class, but Rowan never responded.

At the end of Rowan’s sixth semester, an assistant dean sent him a letter of suspension that asked Rowan to confirm his receipt of the letter as soon as possible. Rowan’s email account shows he never responded.

Meanwhile, Rowan, who lived in an off-campus apartment, led his parents to believe he was taking classes and on track to graduate. A discrepancy in Rowan’s expected graduation date gave his parents pause, but Rowan assured them it was a mistake on CMU’s part that he would get fixed.

Still, Mr. de Boer reached out to Rowan’s academic adviser about the graduation date. During a phone call, Mr. de Boer said, he told the adviser that Rowan didn’t seem to be himself lately, and he was worried about his son’s emotional health.

The adviser told Mr. de Boer he couldn’t share anything related to Rowan’s grades, citing the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act, which protects the privacy of students’ educational records. The adviser never indicated that his son had been suspended, Mr. de Boer said.

After Rowan’s death, Mr. de Boer and Ms. Pimley learned they could have used a parent portal to verify Rowan’s enrollment status. It never crossed their minds to check this, though, because they had no reason to believe their son wasn’t attending classes.

“We had no idea,” Mr. de Boer said.

What Rowan’s parents want to see

Rowan’s parents said they believe CMU officials failed to uphold the university’s policy in their handling of Rowan’s academic decline and suspension.

When Rowan’s grades plummeted, a CMU dean or adviser never checked up on him, even though CMU policy states that deans and advisers will do so in a timely manner for students in academic trouble during the mid-semester period.

CMU officials also never received acknowledgement of his suspension from Rowan, according to Rowan’s emails.

The couple has also identified areas in which they believe the university is lacking in support for student mental health. Rowan displayed several red-flag behaviors that went unnoticed, they say.

The couple would like an externally led task force to consider numerous action items, including:

• A campus suicide prevention plan
• Uniform procedures for handling students with academic and mental health concerns
• Uniform training of academic advisers
• The release of data from CMU’s health and well-being surveys
• A review of CMU’s interpretation of FERPA
• Training so all employees can identify signs of mental health disorders and understand FERPA law
• Better software for tracking academic performance

The task force’s findings would be publicly available to the CMU community, Mr. de Boer and Ms. Pimley envision.

“They’re not meaningful unless they’re published publicly,” Mr. de Boer said. “They should list their action items and assess how well [CMU] is doing on their action items. We think that would greatly improve university mental health.”

Ms. Pimley hopes an external review of the university’s procedures and policies would lead to a stronger safety net for struggling students.

“It’s for the student body now and in the future,” Ms. Pimley said. “It’s best for the students to do it in a professional and meaningful way.”

CMU’s current support for students

In an email to the Post-Gazette, CMU outlined several measures it has taken over the years to support student mental health. 

It has has doubled counselling and psychological services staffing in the past 10 years; started a mobile crisis unit in partnership with university police; and encourages community members to make referrals “through an online and telephone referral system in order to alert the university about students who need additional support,” the university wrote.

“Hundreds of students each year are connected with resources and receive individualized care as a result of these referrals, which is in addition to the thousands of students who self-refer for care with CMU’s robust network of care services,” the statement said.

CMU said its suicide prevention strategy is based on best practices from the JED Foundation, the Center for Collegiate Mental Health, the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention, the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration and the Higher Education Mental Health Alliance, among others.

CMU said it has created a department focused on wellness and tripled the number of programs focused on proactive care. Officials touted access to a free meditation app and workshops on “a range of other relaxation and community-focused connections.”

CMU requires students to have health insurance with “the opportunity to enroll in an insurance plan with no deductibles or copays for mental health care.” The school has introduced “additional break weeks to provide time to breathe during busy semesters,” and offers free fitness classes for students and staff, the statement said.

“In addition, programs to train faculty and staff in how to assist students have continued to grow,” the university said, “...and ways to alert caregivers about students in need of additional support have been developed.”

The university did not answer questions about its current suicide rate, whether mental health or FERPA training is a requirement for employees, when it last reviewed its mental health policies, and whether it plans to conduct a review.

Mental health challenges grow

Rowan’s mental health decline isn’t a rare occurrence in higher education.

Suicide is the second-leading cause of death among U.S. college students, with 1,100 students dying by suicide every year and approximately 24,000 students attempting suicide, according to the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention.

Of 96,000 college students surveyed during the 2021-22 academic year, 44% reported symptoms of depression, 37% had experienced anxiety and 15% had seriously considered suicide, a report by the Healthy Minds Network found. Those were the survey’s highest rates in its 15-year history.

At elite universities, students are even more likely to develop anxiety and depression, studies have shown.

“College is stressful,” Mr. de Boer said. “I teach and I know it’s stressful. There are many stresses — you’re still growing at that time. You’re having to learn a lot of stuff. If you get behind in courses, it becomes even more stressful.”

Generally speaking, many colleges provide inadequate resources for students struggling with academic pressure and mental health challenges, said Scott MacLeod, who co-founded The Sophie Fund with his wife after their daughter Sophie, a Cornell University student, died by suicide. The advocacy group aims to support mental health and prevent suicide in the Ithaca, N.Y., area.

Mr. MacLeod said he’s found that suicide prevention is most effective at the grassroots level. College administrators, health care leaders and even young people can play a role in preventing these deaths, he said. For struggling college students, he said he believes involving parents in support is often vital.

“We're really talking about the future of our country,” Mr. MacLeod said. “[College] is a very vulnerable time for young people.

“We can't have college administrations indifferent to their mental health. You need them to be completely on board to do everything possible to support it and they need to [involve] their campuses, parents and communities, as well.”

 

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zaocha2002
进不去
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Feinbery
我能看到啊
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Numero
可以啊,我把内容也贴在主贴里了
我是谁的谁
家長居然是CMU機械系教授,double tragedy。家長糊塗啊,住這麼近,自己該多去看看娃吧
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zaocha2002
看到了。这个是荷兰,德国或比利时的姓。Maarten de Boer 是他爸爸,查一下也是CMU的?
我是谁的谁
CMU機械系教授
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zaocha2002
还是进不去,哈哈
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zaocha2002
这也太大意,感觉娃是抑郁症。
我是谁的谁
CMU EE頭兩年GPA 4.0,是個學習很優秀的娃。一個學期GPA從4.0掉到1.8,這中間應該有很大的事發生,失戀?
飞黎
是啊,这怎么回事,住这么近,周末不回家吗?
我是谁的谁
美國這種不與家長溝通、什麼事先把自己摘乾淨的文化確實有點BS
硬码工
中间的de是否是贵族的标志?德国或德语中的贵族较多
我是谁的谁
相當於英語的“of”?
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zaocha2002
如果是比利时和荷兰的就是 the 的意思。boer是农民的意思
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zaocha2002
我倒是觉得可能这娃以前太依赖父母,现在拼命想独立所以疏离父母。
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whaled
从家长portal 是看得到娃注册的课和成绩的,虽然孩子很反感我们掺和他学校的事,但不至于完全不知道状况
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trivial
同校的家长,没想到去查看的parent portal,

被孩子糊弄过去的discrepancy in graduation date... 然后错误都是别人的。 这家长也是奇葩。

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Rockeymountain
这个要孩子授权才可以。我家都只授权我付费。
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whaled
我家的不在乎,当然也不会理会我们的建议 呵呵
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2boysmom
至少交学费就可以要求看到成绩

我估计孩子不愿意回家

家长肯定也是被孩子拒绝过交流, 最后就是放手, 爱咋咋地的态度

我是谁的谁
兩個是分開的。但是這是我唯一的leverage,不給看成績單我不繳費
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2boysmom
对呀, 分开是分开, 但必须要求啊
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2boysmom
哈哈, 我家授权付费和看成绩单
风景线2
这家长和小孩关系太疏远了吧。同校同城,连自己孩子有抑郁症都看不出来
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trivial
这个case看校方有无违规了。没有授权就不能告诉成绩是法律,家长不能要求别人违法。
恒妈
有可能想不到的,父母是学术界的可能智商很高但其他方面不一定强
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2boysmom
看出来, 孩子不愿意配合也很难。 这里父母最难过, 家长很难做

你就看这里, 很多人说燕子管得多, 可是不在其中不知其难。家长是小心又小心

恒妈
男孩子青春期很多都有一段时间和家长疏远,大部分发生在大学

他父母注意到了他的反常的,也去学校问了但对方说隐私不能告诉,都退学了还不告诉,制度有大问题

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2boysmom
这我还真见过。老大的导师都是一个系的教授, 女的是台湾人, 所以他们的孩子大学修了中文, 后来聊天的时候爸爸不知儿子这学

考了B

天意悠悠
不要吓我,我以为我家大熊的疏远期已经结束了......
飞黎
就是啊,收那么多钱,生怕担责任,感觉大学并没有把学生的最大利益放在优先地位,泛指所有大学
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trivial
他们本身也在学校,对学校的各种规则和运作比其他人应该更了解。

就说家长打电话问成绩这事,每年的training里都强调没有授权不能说的。

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Croissant_22
大学觉得娃到了18岁就成年了可以全靠自己,我觉得高估了熊孩子,有时候还是需要家长关注一下的
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katies
父母太大意了,父亲同校,每周约一起吃饭总可以了解点情况的。
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2boysmom
我觉得这群里对有的家长关心孩子一边倒劝人家放手不公平, 又不是自己的孩子父母管也不是不管也不是
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Knight_2024
名字象印度名。
恒妈
父母应该试了,但可能约不到…
风景线2
学校不能告诉是因为小孩签了保密协议,学校不能违反协议。所以首先要问为什么小孩要选择保密,不信任家长
恒妈
其实疏远发生的早是好事呢,听到不少高中调皮到大学很好的例子
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katies
可以去他的apartment,反正这个case父母也是有失误的。
风景线2
劝放手是指让小孩多自己闯,不是要家长完全不理睬
恒妈
是这样,但他们肯定在孩子那什么也得不到才不得以去找老师问的

如果老师告诉实情就不一样了

恒妈
呵呵那也得进得去呀
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katies
买汽车保险时,25岁才被treatedas adult,我觉得男孩到30岁才让父母放心。
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2boysmom
唯一语言表达不了的就是度, 老祖宗的中庸之道最高深莫测
恒妈
小孩子签的时候可能胡乱签的根本没想那么多
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2boysmom
这个时候家长是最伤心的, 没有完美的家长, 都需要学习提高, 但在任何一个关键节点如果有为孩子想会阻止悲剧

如果家长早年和孩子有良好的亲子关系, 后面的一切也许不会发生,

但是人无完人

如果学校在最后极端情况下, 有人和家长一起关心, 而不是所谓的放手, 隐私, 也许结果不一样

一切都是如果

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2boysmom
呵呵, 理解理解, 单一指责父母的也许家里孩子都是报恩的, 没有经历, 站着说话
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zaocha2002
不是
飞黎
是的,父母难当.
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rr6mumu
严重同意,晚熟娃更难说
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rr6mumu
确实,娃和娃太不同
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rr6mumu
对我家来说,有时是不够的
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Bailey4321
那是因为你娃让你看。学校不给家长access的。但是他的家长明显失职。现在都推学校,好像也显示家长这种attitude
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rr6mumu
不能一刀切,娃和娃太不同
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rr6mumu
有些事是很难用常理推断的,中间一定有极其特殊的原因
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rr6mumu
娃如果抑郁了精神都不正常,签的保密协议有效吗?
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Bailey4321
Same here.而且付费也是我得记得。就不是娃的事。Totally spoiled.
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Bailey4321
你牛。
风景线2
家长都知道小孩抑郁了,还不去治疗吗?追究是否知道学校成绩没意义。无论什么原因导致娃抑郁,家长没上心是重要原因

协议是以前签的,只要没改,应该还有效。

 

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youtub
上大学前要签几张表,包括医疗保险,病情和成绩让家长知道,这不是常识吗。
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Bailey4321
成绩当然不在内。
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trivial
刚查了一下,特殊情况下家长还是可以看成绩的,但是要有相关证据,不会打个电话就告诉你。
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Numero
所以还是家长没意识到孩子问题的严重性。
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youtub
成绩那张表也是要填的,一起交给学校。