T20内南方的私立大学,pre-med track program,vs. 中游州立大学full ride,学费杂费吃住零花加笔记本电脑海外游学全免奖学金,honors program + pre-med track (must keep GPA 3.5 above;4.0 for medicine,which is the top 2% among 500 students in the program) 。
小哥高中是区域No.1公立,GPA 4.6,ACT满分,PSAT满分,National Merit Final,一个 National Championship,其它音乐体育社区服务发表论文参加国际性学术会议等等属于玩票性质,自理有上进心但是不是特别好胜非要拼第一的孩子,有一点点玩性(和同学一起打电游),将来想进医学院,想读MD PhD,两所大学每年进医学院的人数差不多 。想听听大家过来人的意见,如何选择,各有哪些利弊?先谢谢啦!
UMD self is a reasonable good univ with the good reputation med school. Mostly important, both NIH and JHU are around there, leading to great opportunities for hypothesis driven biomedical research that is very important to get in an MSTP program, especially the top MSTP programs.
The NIH funded MSTP program is aimed to train next generation of physician scientists. The MSTP journey is long and tough. Especially, you make money at least 4 yrs later compared to your MD only peers. However, this is a great career path to someone who loves sciences and sees patients.
As usual MD only applicants, you have to have sGPA and MCAT >= average in a specific medical school. 3.9+ plus 520+ from UMD should be good enough for T30 MSTP programs , the achievements of research, the letters of recommendation from research mentors, the passions for sciences and the communication and writing skills will be decision-making factors. If aimed at top 10 MSTP programs, the strong leadership is a must.
At first, I vote for "Full Ride" but 4.0 for medicine is ridicul
At first, I vote for "Full Ride", but the requirement for "4.0 GPA" for medicine is ridiculous. To some, 4.0 GPA is cake walk, but to many, it robs the student of many opportunites. For this reason alone, I would drop it.
If Top 20 private school is not direct-med and just pre-med track, choose state full ride. School nameplate is not that a huge deal for medical school admission. GPA and MCAT are much more important, the state university has an edge due to the huge student pool. The full ride is a lifetime honor and looks like the kid is self-motivated. Go with the full ride. Money saved here can go a long way for kid's medical school tuition.
T20内南方的私立大学,pre-med track program,vs. 中游州立大学full ride,学费杂费吃住零花加笔记本电脑海外游学全免奖学金,honors program + pre-med track (must keep GPA 3.5 above;4.0 for medicine,which is the top 2% among 500 students in the program) 。
小哥高中是区域No.1公立,GPA 4.6,ACT满分,PSAT满分,National Merit Final,一个 National Championship,其它音乐体育社区服务发表论文参加国际性学术会议等等属于玩票性质,自理有上进心但是不是特别好胜非要拼第一的孩子,有一点点玩性(和同学一起打电游),将来想进医学院,想读MD PhD,两所大学每年进医学院的人数差不多 。想听听大家过来人的意见,如何选择,各有哪些利弊?先谢谢啦!
令人愤慨
是老婆孩子不上
比较一下两边的research opportunities
咱不但把冰箱彩电媒气灶都卖了,连再等两年分的房子和副教授都不要了。。。
现在这点学费算个啥? 拿出30年前的大无畏精神来。。。
夏天开始remote work
找本校去两校的学长问问,尤其是premed track的?
可能的话,还可以找MD的实验室
当年娃面邻同样的选择,去了州立没影响医学院录取。
学费部分不作为考虑选项,然后根据你们在意的,娃在意的点去选。。。
上大学选择如果家庭条件允许,还是娃的纯粹的选择为主。
学医不值得本科上私立。
娃很上进,说不定搞到免费的医学院呢
我倾向每步不留遗憾,轻松上路,不想那么远哈
去掉ucla正好T20哈哈。。。
More constructive suggestions might be posted in here
The name of T20 private school doesn't matter
怪老师或者出现什么意外,一旦有一门拿不到A,是不是就会丢了奖学金和 pre-med track?
research hospital if a MD has such kind knowledge and skills.
怎么回事我可能也没搞清楚,是keep pre-med track? 得问娃
UMD self is a reasonable good univ with the good reputation med school. Mostly important, both NIH and JHU are around there, leading to great opportunities for hypothesis driven biomedical research that is very important to get in an MSTP program, especially the top MSTP programs.
The NIH funded MSTP program is aimed to train next generation of physician scientists. The MSTP journey is long and tough. Especially, you make money at least 4 yrs later compared to your MD only peers. However, this is a great career path to someone who loves sciences and sees patients.
As usual MD only applicants, you have to have sGPA and MCAT >= average in a specific medical school. 3.9+ plus 520+ from UMD should be good enough for T30 MSTP programs , the achievements of research, the letters of recommendation from research mentors, the passions for sciences and the communication and writing skills will be decision-making factors. If aimed at top 10 MSTP programs, the strong leadership is a must.
GL
真是熊掌鱼不可兼得:)
基数大rate肯定低,如果只考虑honors program 的500名学生那就又不一样,也有进HYJ的,看不出太大差别,州大都是好学生一起比可能竞争压力更大些?
孩子和高中老师一起写了一篇CAR-T治疗的综述,想学一点怎么通过大数据分析寻找新的靶点,等等
娃的选择
自己又网上搜信息比较了一番,娃现在倾向去州大。我跟娃比较实际草根,家里的老哥却在那里考虑孙子的legacy问题,似乎有点多虑
At first, I vote for "Full Ride", but the requirement for "4.0 GPA" for medicine is ridiculous. To some, 4.0 GPA is cake walk, but to many, it robs the student of many opportunites. For this reason alone, I would drop it.
rank前20的男生都准备进州大拿奖学金将来学医或者CS,女生都进T10付学费五花八门的学科,正是所谓女儿富养男儿穷养:)
GPA 4.0
Same for Duke.
T5藤校录取的一个孩子被人匿名告发同学群聊时用了"N" word,还截图,结果在入学前几周被学校通知取消资格,所以大家都会很小心以免预想不到的事发生。
怎么就没有想到这也是一种肯定,不光光是付不付学费的问题,你解了一个大惑,谢谢!
娃想放弃T20去州大后给offer的,说以后可以帮助推荐research and shadow physicians
If Top 20 private school is not direct-med and just pre-med track, choose state full ride. School nameplate is not that a huge deal for medical school admission. GPA and MCAT are much more important, the state university has an edge due to the huge student pool. The full ride is a lifetime honor and looks like the kid is self-motivated. Go with the full ride. Money saved here can go a long way for kid's medical school tuition.