其次，民事上定责任，不管是保护令（protective order）还是学校惩罚，一般需要preponderance of evidence, 就是51-49的证据和反证。同样，事发后，肯定是她说他说，证据和反证为50-50，如果没有任何物证或者第三方见证，民事上也很难定责任。如何去找那1%的证据，这里面细节太多了。
Sorry, let me answer in English, it is much fast for me.
I direct talk to VP of student affair office. The accusation is criminal case, regional center is aware this case. But they will not get involved because they don't have expert on law. The basic problem is we all ready win the first case on the court. Court already made the decision. I give opportunity for the school to revist the case, correct their mistake. They don't take court decision serioulesly. Not only that, they also take another steps, using another students as excuse to forth advance explusion which further hurt us.
As for the first court case, we have evidence, most importantly the video evidence to prove that the women fabricated the story. For the first case, initially I want the lawyer to present all evidences on the court. I wanted a clear win. But the law office insist on to resolve case before the court. They write the letter to ask her to withdraw the case. If she does not withdraw, final steps is to go to the court. They say 95% case is resolved without go to the court. The result is, the women did not withdraw the case. She simply did not appear on the court date. This good for the law office self interest. But not very good for us. As late development shows the school did not accept the result because the win is due to the women did not appear on the court. The law office says they don't have expert on education area so they don't want to involve in next steps, they referred to other laywer on education to us. The big lession for us is we did not discuss at begining what the law office would do for us. So the result is bad for us. The law office assigned an young lawyer work on the case and he just greduated from law school with one year experience. He spend time read the material I send to him. His book many hours on read material, each email commuincation he would book half hours or one hours. They scared the women ( she did not hire lawyer) so she did not come to court. But did not solve our problem with school. Which lead to problem late the school would use expel steps.
As for the second women, she was new immigrantf from maymar, speak english with heavy accent. My son accoumdate her, so she was in same club with my son, have activity together, sit together on caferteria on lunch a few times so my son view her as good friend. When we on the first case with that first women. My son talk to her and email contact her and try to ask her be witness for the first case. She refuse to be witness using reason she does not know her. One year late my son try to contact her tell her we win the case. She did not respond. As we late find out she turn to campus police. The police teach her to send "don't contact me again". She close all communication channel with my son. No further commincation. There is no in propber part behavior on my son part. However, the VP of student affair use this case preceed to expel. I believe we would win on court on this case if we would go to court.
Let assume we can prove my son is innocent on court.
No improper behavior. The school is cause great harm to my son. What result we can expect from this law suit?
Should I hire a criminlal defence lawyer ? Or education lawyer? This is question I want to know.
Ideally, I would like this be injury case. Find a lawyer willing to treat this as injury with no win no fee. Is this possible? I saw lawyer ads for discimination from a company, no win no fee.
As to how to prove his innocency is on following: 1. Due to his autistic behavior. His behavior is highly patterned. From build A. to build D, he exit the building, go through the building C. Everyday he follow the exactly same pattern even in similar hours. This make him does not have ablity to following anyone. Unless this person following the same strange pattern he is doing. So he does not have ablitity to follow a person arround. 2. My son has on intersting on that women. On her statement, she and my son only meet once and introduce each other name and major. When my son try to followup connect with facebook and instgram. She reject him connection. That is end of story. My son has other female he regard as friend. He has no relation with this women only it share same public building space on the campus. 3. On police report, she made report 5:00 pm she went to parking lot, she report my son watch her from distance. But my son left the campus on 3:00-3:15 pm. His mom picked him up at 3:00-3:15pm(my son don't drive), she driver according report to police. Clearly this women have illusiotn problem. 4. On all her police report, all she complains is he watch her from distance. This is clear symptom of illusion. Let says, even what she said is true. Can "watch" or "stare" words continsted harasment ? What redicoulse the police did not detect her illusion problem and treat as true. And use "look at" as evidence of harrasment. 5. I have two days video evidence on my hand. We asked all the days video outside campus building that women claims he followed her. The school use lawyer and delay tactic and don't give video to us. Then they says it was erased video only kept for 30 days period. This shows evidence clear is not on School or women's side. But two days video plus other evidence from police report can show this women either have illusion or just lied. She frabric a story that show a picture my son interested on her, persue her.
I think a good lawyer can make prove on court that my son is totally innocent on this case.
Elon Musk talks about growing up with Asperger's - Axios
Flashback: Musk widely revealed having Asperger's last year when he hosted “Saturday Night Live.” In his opening monologue, Musk said: "To anyone who I've offended [with my Twitter posts], I just want to say I reinvented electric cars, and I'm sending people to Mars in a rocket ship.
Though Jobs never publicly,acknowledged having Asperger's;
he clearly demonstrated significant traits of Autism. Steve Jobs, not only became the face of Apple but perhaps the icon of the high school yearbook section entitled: "The Most Unlikely to Succeed Who Did”. Jobs, a college dropout cofounded Apple in his garage
Gates has also been diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome
He is also known for his intense focus on his work, which is another common trait. Gates has also been diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome, which is considered to be on the autism spectrum. This diagnosis is based on his speech patterns and behavior, as well as his difficulty understanding social cues.2
我想探讨一下我们是否可以起诉大学：
1. 不实指控性骚扰。
2、歧视残疾学生。
3. 我们应该聘请什么样的律师，根据之前的不良经验，我非常小心地试图找到合适的律师可以帮助对抗这种不公正？ 刑事辩护律师好还是教育律师好？ 还是歧视律师？
具体情怳如下:
我儿子今年20岁了。 他患有自闭症，属于受保护的残疾类别。
目前，他被他所就读的社区大学开除。
2022年11月下旬，他在学校食堂被一名女性（柬埔寨华人）诬告性骚扰。
12月，学校对他处以停学一年的处罚。
这名妇女还在警方的帮助下向加州最高法院提起诉讼。
我们有视频文件显示了该女性指控“骚扰”的自助餐厅场景。 警方指控他四次往该女子方向看，作为骚扰的证据。
我们拿到警方报告，明确表明该女子四次与警方联系，试图获取对他不利的证据。 前三次，警方均表示“证据不足，未采取任何行动”。 直到第四次出现在自助餐厅时，警方才认为得到了证据。
这件事发生在下午1点，学校食堂里有很多学生正在吃午饭。 我儿子碰巧在她后面去餐厅。但至少保持20－30尺距离。在餐厅里， 与她至少隔一张桌子距离。没有接触。 警方称，视频中他四次朝她的方向看去，以此作为证据。
我们请了律师做辩护。律师调到餐厅的视频。视频清楚显示无接触。无对话。此女诬陷，警察构陷。我要求律师在法官面前出庭，在法庭上呈示证据。
然而律师要先庭外处理。律师 想给她发信要求她撤诉。 虽然我反对这个程序，因为我们有视频证据。 但律师说他是受雇来把这个案子的徹掉，他们处理了很多案件。 他们的目标是在上法庭之前解决问题。 如果不能的话，他才会上法庭。
这个女子没有撤回她的案子。 但她没有在开庭当天出庭。 所以案件被驳回。
当我们把加州最高法院的判决交给学校的时候。 学校表示，尽管法庭案件被驳回。 理由是她没有出现而被驳回。 这并不意味着骚扰没有发生。
律师表示，他的律师事务所没有做教育领域的案件。 如果我们想继续诉讼，他推荐了其他律师继续。 此案被驳回。 他的工作完成了。
这个律师就像罗新女士描述的她前两个律师一样。 他们拿了钱，但并没有完全解决我们的问题。
然后我列出了我在第一次诉讼中获得的所有证据，要求对之前的错误决定提出上诉。 学校只是不理会我的信。 然后它说它没有上诉程序。
2023年9月14日，我儿子在学校时认为是好朋友的另一位女学生（缅甸人）。 向学校投诉“不必要的交流”。 但这位女学生从来没有说过“不要联系我”这句话。 直到她与警察交谈。 警察教她发送“不要联系我”。 同时，她关闭了所有的通讯渠道，此后不再有任何直接的交流。尽管这是个普通的事件，然而，学校却利用这一事件指控我儿子“不必要的交流”和网络骚扰。 我要求学校给我看
他们之前的沟通中包含符合在线骚扰定义的“威胁、恐吓或诽谤”语言的证据。 他们无法提供这样的证据。 但他们继续进行驱逐。 2023年12月13日，学院完成开除学籍程序。
是否要起诉女子诽谤？
真的不希望花了時間，最終還被您駡
老猫说得对，你不说你要什么结果，而是怪律师没有给你解决好，那么我们给你任何建议都会被你骂，说我们不知道如何解决问题。你全文没有用英文术语，不知道女方起诉你们是什么诉讼。以下是我的思路和假设。
一：案件本身：女方说你儿子和女方有四次接触。头三次无录像，但是女方肯定有证词说你儿子如何冒犯他。只有第四次在有录像的餐厅里面，女方的证据仅仅是儿子看着女方。现在你不说女方告了你儿子如何如何，而是仅仅强调在餐厅无冒犯，并不是案件的全面。所以对案件我无法发表评论。
二：案发后的诉讼：之后由于缺乏证据，警方无法立案。但是，警方可以帮助受害者申请restraiting order/protective order，估计女方没有出庭的，就是这个order的出庭。你们去雇的律师，是刑事辩护律师，只能确保这个order被拿掉。
术业有专攻，人家帮你拿掉一个官司，你却骂人家不帮你，只拿钱不做事，确实很偏颇。99%的案件都是出庭前解决的，大事化小，小事化了。你的幻想是出庭解气，指着女方质问，这种场面只有好莱坞电影里面有。
三：你还要什么结果？
我认为你要的，是要求学校给你儿子复学。这个结果，你只能去找教育律师。教育律师熟悉州立大学的规章和法律要求，能够帮助你儿子取消学校内的惩罚。比如社区大学属于公立机构，应该有appeal的程序。这个需要教育律师跟进。
至于告对方诽谤，这是你外行人杜撰出来的方法。告对方诽谤无助于学校内处分的取消，对方也没有钱，就算能陪你几万元，又有什么用？
所以，我没有认为你儿子的刑事律师做了什么错事，他给了你教育律师的推荐，你应该根据他的建议走下一步。
首先，刑事上定罪，证据和反证需要beyond resonable doubt, 大约是70-30。好比性骚扰，女方证词说发生，男方证词说没有发生，证据和反证50-50，无法刑事定罪。所以，性犯罪一般要女方做rape kit，就是找男方精液DNA。
其次，民事上定责任，不管是保护令（protective order）还是学校惩罚，一般需要preponderance of evidence, 就是51-49的证据和反证。同样，事发后，肯定是她说他说，证据和反证为50-50，如果没有任何物证或者第三方见证，民事上也很难定责任。如何去找那1%的证据，这里面细节太多了。
这就是为什么校园内性骚扰连学校处分都很难拿到。作为一个女生，被人言语骚扰，仅仅是他说她说，警察学校都无法帮助，无法制止男方骚然，这对于女生是一个很烦恼的事情，我想很多人在同学朋友那里都听到这种故事。所以，很多学校由于性骚扰的特殊性和普遍性，有专门性骚扰的调查惩罚规章，我并不熟悉这些，但是一个教育律师就是做这行的，不但知道规章，还知道案例，知道学校以前是如何调查/惩罚的。这种专业知识，不是一般律师就知道的。
什么事情都是要在发生的时候处理好。已经被开除了，还处理什么。去告大学估计连律师都找不到。好律师不会为了钱去浪费自己的事业生命。
那么华人在这个国家未来会沦落到历史上越南华人，印尼华人的结局。
在这个案子中，因为没接触，没动作，没语言。 警察以” 他往她坐的方向看了几次“做为证据。 警察向法官做”伪证“ 骚扰发生了。
“没接触，没动作，没语言”，是指第一个女孩的第四次报警，在餐厅看到的视频。
第一个女孩还有另外三次报警。第二个女孩告诉学校“不必要的交流”，这些都是发生过的事件。
你要知道年轻女人遭受“穷追不舍”的追求的事情，有的男生跟踪，有的男生打电话接通了却不说话，有的男生不断发短信，这些都是性骚扰的行为，都可以说是“没接触，没动作，没语言”。我不知道你儿子是否做了这些事，但是我无法仅仅根据餐厅的录像就下结论说你儿子和两个女孩“没接触，没动作，没语言”。
除非有新证据说明两个女孩都在撒谎，否则你去和学校谈什么？
学校有保护自己学生的义务，否则出了事，他们会被女方告。
如果一个女生平白无故地被一个男生强奸了，学校说很遗憾，请保重。如果一个女生，多次报警一个男生骚扰，学校不管，最后被这个男生强奸了，学校会怎么样？校报报道，一群女生去学校里面抗议，学生处的干部会被撤职，学校校长说不定也会辞职。
所以，如果一个女生多次报警某个男生骚扰，学校一定从严处理；如果被两个女生报警，你说学校能不开除吗？不开除，万一这个男生强奸了第三个女生，你说学校要赔多少钱？
有时候不要把思维仅仅限于自己孩子怎样怎样，考虑一下我们生活在一个社会里面，别人会怎么做。
似乎令您忿忿不平：我要求学校给我看 他们之前的沟通中包含符合在线骚扰定义的“威胁、恐吓或诽谤”语言的证据。 他们无法提供这样的证据。 但他们继续进行驱逐。
如果相信自己可以做得很好；也觉得暂无需花钱聘请律师：您可以在法律程序上自行提出传票(subpoena)请求查阅证据。 但请注意，确定您了解和遵循贵州法院的程序，以便让请求具有效性； 若法院有特定的格式和要求，也請您仔细研读，使请求顺利被处理而不被退件。
许多针对名人, 有钱人, 有权人, 的性骚扰案, 虽然发生在几年, 几十年前, 都是通过这两点为主要依据而定罪.
自闭症孩子由于无法理解和遵循公认的社会交往准则, 而无法正常地在群体中学习/生活/工作. 许多家长错误地认为把他们放到社会之中, 通过与大众的交往, 他们会逐渐地改变. 事实上是不可能, 只是给自己和孩子造成一次又一次的伤害.
另一方面, 自闭症孩子常常在某一个方面有独特的天份, 许多音乐家, 画家, 数学家, 哲学家, 等等, 都患有不同程度的自闭症, 爱因斯坦就是轻度自闭症患者. 对家长来说, 重要的是找到他们的独特之处来针对性的施教.
第一个女孩不说，请问怎么又会有第二个女孩抱怨？
你来问是想听意见还是抒发感情？
自闭症患者只是在与人交流时, 当别人不理解他/她的用意, 在极端情况下才会因 frustration 而变得狂躁/暴力. 如果当时有一定训练的人在场懂得如何处理这样的情况, 就能化解危机.
这种额外的费用, 只有政府部门才愿意出, 才出得起. .
从另一个角度考虑, 自闭症患者和我们一样, 也有工作的权力, 也有成为一个对社会有贡献的人的愿望, 另外他们的父母也是纳税人, 所以政府部门出一点钱, 雇个专人帮助他们也是应该的.
您的孩子是否是 阿斯伯格综合征（Asperger syndrome，简称AS）的患者 ?
让社会对残障者产生恐怖
很多其他宠物有类似情况。想想最近生病失声的觉得挺恐怖，万一病毒再严重一点是不是就永久性失声了。
还有那么多失去语言能力的人...
典型的忘想病人的描叙。但在法庭上证明这点要费很多功夫。
老貓需要知道的事是，在兩次事件的處理過程中，是否有專業的醫療人士，曾經幫助你們與學校溝通 ?
也就是說，學校處理這個案件的行政單位是否知道當事人的某些行為，並不適用於針對一般正常人的評判標準?
現在的情況，不要去考慮這個孩子很乖或是很聰明......現在要考慮的是，現實的情況是，這個孩子並不是處於正常的情況，他的心理狀態異於常人，但是他的行為並沒有攻擊性，同時也不會對其他人造成威脅... (這些東西是否曾經有專業的醫療人士或是專業的社工代表你們與學校溝通?)
看能不能在其他学校继续读大学。
I direct talk to VP of student affair office. The accusation is criminal case, regional center is aware this case. But they will not get involved because they don't have expert on law. The basic problem is we all ready win the first case on the court. Court already made the decision. I give opportunity for the school to revist the case, correct their mistake. They don't take court decision serioulesly. Not only that, they also take another steps, using another students as excuse to forth advance explusion which further hurt us.
As for the first court case, we have evidence, most importantly the video evidence to prove that the women fabricated the story. For the first case, initially I want the lawyer to present all evidences on the court. I wanted a clear win. But the law office insist on to resolve case before the court. They write the letter to ask her to withdraw the case. If she does not withdraw, final steps is to go to the court. They say 95% case is resolved without go to the court. The result is, the women did not withdraw the case. She simply did not appear on the court date. This good for the law office self interest. But not very good for us. As late development shows the school did not accept the result because the win is due to the women did not appear on the court. The law office says they don't have expert on education area so they don't want to involve in next steps, they referred to other laywer on education to us. The big lession for us is we did not discuss at begining what the law office would do for us. So the result is bad for us. The law office assigned an young lawyer work on the case and he just greduated from law school with one year experience. He spend time read the material I send to him. His book many hours on read material, each email commuincation he would book half hours or one hours. They scared the women ( she did not hire lawyer) so she did not come to court. But did not solve our problem with school. Which lead to problem late the school would use expel steps.
As for the second women, she was new immigrantf from maymar, speak english with heavy accent. My son accoumdate her, so she was in same club with my son, have activity together, sit together on caferteria on lunch a few times so my son view her as good friend. When we on the first case with that first women. My son talk to her and email contact her and try to ask her be witness for the first case. She refuse to be witness using reason she does not know her. One year late my son try to contact her tell her we win the case. She did not respond. As we late find out she turn to campus police. The police teach her to send "don't contact me again". She close all communication channel with my son. No further commincation. There is no in propber part behavior on my son part. However, the VP of student affair use this case preceed to expel. I believe we would win on court on this case if we would go to court.
No improper behavior. The school is cause great harm to my son. What result we can expect from this law suit?
Should I hire a criminlal defence lawyer ? Or education lawyer? This is question I want to know.
Ideally, I would like this be injury case. Find a lawyer willing to treat this as injury with no win no fee. Is this possible? I saw lawyer ads for discimination from a company, no win no fee.
As to how to prove his innocency is on following: 1. Due to his autistic behavior. His behavior is highly patterned. From build A. to build D, he exit the building, go through the building C. Everyday he follow the exactly same pattern even in similar hours. This make him does not have ablity to following anyone. Unless this person following the same strange pattern he is doing. So he does not have ablitity to follow a person arround. 2. My son has on intersting on that women. On her statement, she and my son only meet once and introduce each other name and major. When my son try to followup connect with facebook and instgram. She reject him connection. That is end of story. My son has other female he regard as friend. He has no relation with this women only it share same public building space on the campus. 3. On police report, she made report 5:00 pm she went to parking lot, she report my son watch her from distance. But my son left the campus on 3:00-3:15 pm. His mom picked him up at 3:00-3:15pm(my son don't drive), she driver according report to police. Clearly this women have illusiotn problem. 4. On all her police report, all she complains is he watch her from distance. This is clear symptom of illusion. Let says, even what she said is true. Can "watch" or "stare" words continsted harasment ? What redicoulse the police did not detect her illusion problem and treat as true. And use "look at" as evidence of harrasment. 5. I have two days video evidence on my hand. We asked all the days video outside campus building that women claims he followed her. The school use lawyer and delay tactic and don't give video to us. Then they says it was erased video only kept for 30 days period. This shows evidence clear is not on School or women's side. But two days video plus other evidence from police report can show this women either have illusion or just lied. She frabric a story that show a picture my son interested on her, persue her.
I think a good lawyer can make prove on court that my son is totally innocent on this case.
學校的決定，直接否決法院最終的判決。(所以不是要再一次，去爭論您的孩子是否犯罪，這個部分，刑事庭已經作出判決，你要 fight 的是學校的決定基本上違反了無罪推定的原則。所以你應該找的是 education lawyer
請參考這個案件
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/expelled-california-western-law-student-wins-state-court-appeal
她不但自己在这学校强行通过程序。她掌握着行政程序。她通过不让我提供书面材料。不让我提供新证据的手段。而且只给我5分钟的时间陈述。还打电话到另一个学校。造成现在的学校的问题。这是故意伤害
不要"自行發明法律"，你不是一個精神有問題的瘋小孩，請你做一個負責任的父親專注處理現在的問題。（讓你的孩子回到學校，完成學業）
除此之外，日後你要報復，等問題解決之後，你要殺誰都是你的事， 老貓 DO NOT CARE !
现在的许多症状都于警察对待他有关。比如睡觉一定要把灯开作。 经常长时间洗手。创伤性画面常常会回到他脑子。 所以我们想要讨公道。
自闭主要是与正常人沟通障碍。并不特别影响智力。上大学很平常。同学议论中的怪人，不与人来往的很可能就是自闭谱系的人。
就拿我孩子来说，如果你去Google上问我是谁？ 大多他不知道。问我孩子是谁， 会出来一串介绍。几个VP title。公益组织的。 他热衷于公益组织的活动。Andew Yang 竟选 NYC市长时，他还参与做志工，担任一个小组的召集人。
连自立生活都是不可能的，需要人监督帮助。他们自闭残障的程度严重影响他们的学习能力，不论他们到底本来有没有正常智力，因为无法交流学习，都表现出“弱智”。
有个环保女孩，好像也是有自闭的。你儿子情况这么好，你请个education lawyer，争取让学校取消开除决定，再帮助儿子学习今后如何应对这类事。
Flashback: Musk widely revealed having Asperger's last year when he hosted “Saturday Night Live.” In his opening monologue, Musk said: "To anyone who I've offended [with my Twitter posts], I just want to say I reinvented electric cars, and I'm sending people to Mars in a rocket ship.
he clearly demonstrated significant traits of Autism. Steve Jobs, not only became the face of Apple but perhaps the icon of the high school yearbook section entitled: "The Most Unlikely to Succeed Who Did”. Jobs, a college dropout cofounded Apple in his garage
He is also known for his intense focus on his work, which is another common trait. Gates has also been diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome, which is considered to be on the autism spectrum. This diagnosis is based on his speech patterns and behavior, as well as his difficulty understanding social cues.2
學校的處理是完全正確的....這要是老貓的孩子被人家隨便摸頭，大概那小子得去弄個新的義肢了
這個中國小子大概想像自己是"主席"之類的大人物.....