重要的事情说三遍:退休帐户里的钱不到年龄可以取,不罚款,不罚款,不罚款!现在上班没时间细说,自己搜一下SEPP

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ShirleyKay
楼主 (文学峸)

A SEPP plan allows you to withdraw funds without penalty from a retirement account before you turn 59½.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/sepp.asp

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ljty1
你明明说的是特指SEPP,然后又在标题里写着“退休账户”,会不会有误导的可能,让别人以为401K也没有penalty?
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重要的事情说三遍:401k或者403b的钱不到59.5岁年龄不能取,罚款,罚款,罚款!现在退休了大把时间细说!

Retirement topics - Significant ages for retirement plan participants | Internal Revenue Service

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但是在特殊情况下,401k或者403b,可以55岁取,没有罚款,但是要严格遵守提取规定!

When Can You Withdraw From Your 401(k)? A Guide | Charles Schwab

上海大男人
我都没看清,楼主讲的是一种特殊的退休账户:Equal Periodic Payment (SEPP),不是SEP!
甜酒甜
哈哈,跟你说一下

今天早上把印度行程取消了

重新订了杜拜经停香港回国的机票,国泰航空,为了他家在香港机场的玉衡堂休息室

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borisg
有六百万舍不得交了税交了罚款拿出来花,继续摧眉折腰给人打工,还是穷人思维。
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hhtt
印度我也是又想去,又怕去?想想他们是一手用来吃饭,一手用来上厕所,想想都怕!你觉得国泰航空不错?我太太说和以前不能比了?
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hhtt
波大,还在为那12米耿耿于怀?不过那个网友的帖给了我一个思考问题,是不是想要早退休的人,不能存太多钱在401k里?
甜酒甜
我飞过两次,觉得不错

空服也没有网上传的那样...

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borisg
401K有限制存多少。我想在这里的人早已经有足够的钱在401K之外了。
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mobius
罚款就10%。20万也就2万。要是我有一千万在401里,一天的波动都不止这个数。我是不会舍不得这2万。
原上草2017
乘务员比较冷漠,木口木面。连样子都不装,假笑都懒得做。
家教
老兄讲的极是。我们老中对将来太担忧,也许是以前穷怕了,结果有着大笔财富现在却过苦哈哈的日子
夏启
年龄?
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50岁
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W2_2023
糊涂大师这个问题我也有考虑过,不过401K的一个好处是protected from law suits. 这个对地主还是

有意义的。不考虑这个感觉超过200万就差不多了,要不RMD年龄一到不知道到底会麻烦到什么程度。所以我个人是折中了一下,夫妻俩401K超过100万之后就都ROTH了,不过确实是先缴了不少税。另外就是一定要有普通的投资账户,这个对早退休太有用了。

看了紫竹网友的帖子,我也算了一下我自己的,惭愧,我的3个做不同交易用途的投资账户加一块还不到他300万的5分之一。不过确实是我自己能有效handle的上限了,挣了钱就拿出来或者做风险更大的交易。感觉他的资产配置从比例和数字上看实际上还是非常好的,只是太多了

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ShirleyKay
楼上的同学们,我没有在瞎说啊。
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ShirleyKay
SEPP (Substantially Equal Periodic Payments)是一种可以从401K提前取钱方法

From ChatGPT:

SEPP (Substantially Equal Periodic Payments) is a strategy that allows you to withdraw funds from your 401(k) or IRA before age 59½ without incurring the usual 10% early withdrawal penalty. The IRS rules on SEPP withdrawals are strict, but if followed correctly, you can access your retirement funds penalty-free.

Here’s how SEPP works and how to set it up:

1. Understand the Rules for SEPP:

SEPP allows you to take a series of regular withdrawals from your 401(k) or IRA before you reach age 59½. However, there are a few key things to keep in mind:

You must continue the SEPP plan for at least 5 years or until you reach age 59½, whichever is longer.

Once the plan is started, you cannot change the payment amount or stop the withdrawals until the plan ends.

If you change or stop the withdrawals before the required period, the IRS will impose penalties retroactively on all the withdrawals you’ve taken, plus interest.

2. Determine the Amount You Can Withdraw:

There are three main methods to calculate SEPP withdrawals:

The Fixed Amortization Method: This method uses a formula that takes your account balance and your life expectancy to calculate the amount you can withdraw each year. This is usually the largest amount you can withdraw.

The Fixed-Annuitization Method: Similar to the amortization method, but you calculate the withdrawal based on an annuity factor (not just the account balance). The amount you can withdraw may be lower than the amortization method.

The Random Method: This allows you to vary the amounts as long as they are based on the IRS formula and don't violate the requirements. This is the most complex and least commonly used.

Note: The IRS provides specific life expectancy tables to help with these calculations.

3. Set Up the SEPP Plan:

Consult with a financial professional: Since SEPP calculations can get complicated and require you to stick to rigid rules, it's a good idea to work with a tax advisor or financial planner to ensure you're doing it correctly.

Select the appropriate method: Depending on your financial needs, you can choose the method that best suits your situation.

Withdraw the money: Once you've selected a method, you'll begin taking the withdrawals according to the agreed schedule. Typically, they are taken annually, quarterly, or monthly.

4. What to Be Aware Of:

Taxation: Even though you’re avoiding the early withdrawal penalty, the money you take out is still subject to regular income taxes.

Penalties for Changes: If you change the amount or frequency of withdrawals, you’ll face a penalty retroactively on all the prior withdrawals, and possibly interest on top of that.

Example of How It Works:

Let's say you’re 50 and have a 401(k) balance of $300,000. You want to use the SEPP rule to start withdrawing money.

You would first calculate the annual withdrawal amount using one of the three methods.

If you choose the Fixed Amortization Method, you might calculate a yearly withdrawal of $15,000 based on your life expectancy and account balance.

You would then withdraw $15,000 each year, and you cannot change this amount or stop the withdrawals until you're 59½ or for 5 years, whichever is longer.

Important Considerations:

5-Year Rule: If you are younger than 59½, you must keep your SEPP plan in place until the later of: 5 years or until you reach 59½.

Other Penalty-Free Withdrawal Options: If you have other financial resources, it might be worth exploring options like 72(t) exceptions for hardship or buying a life annuity that would give you guaranteed payments.

Would you like help calculating potential withdrawal amounts for your situation or finding a financial advisor who specializes in this?