纯讨论哈,下面是我在IRS网站看到的: Tax treaties reduce the U.S. taxes of residents of foreign countries. With certain exceptions, they do not reduce the U.S. taxes of U.S. citizens or residents. U.S. citizens and residents are subject to U.S. income tax on their worldwide income. 根据上面说的,treaty do not reduce taxes of US citizens or residents, F1转身分那年,满足了183 天的条件,按照tax resident报税了,那就不能再享受treaty了
as long as you are F1, you can claim treaty within 5 years of accumulated time stayed in US as F1. for being within the first year as F1 in USA, your only choice is claim tax treaty because mostly you are a non resident. however, after being a fully resident for the 1st year, you are free to choose between filing as non resident or resident , within the "5 years" OP can claim the treaty, however, it is not worth doing that because simply a itemized deduction will beat that 5000
you can not claim treaty and standard deduction the same time. because standard deduction is only for resident. and treaty is for non resident. However, within 5 years of F1 status, you are free to go either way. meaning you either can file standard or treaty, but not the same time.
还没file,也没交钱,但是我在等CPA帮我报税的一个月无聊拿软件算了下,等CPA做完我的税发现要多补好多.....这样能找CPA帮重新看看吗?我的case其实还挺简单的。但我知道做tax都很忙,然后我感觉毁约不报了也不行吧?
CPA那边,只要你最后没签字,就是没完成。可以中止。
你可以拿着你做的去问问,但他们不一定愿意解答。
1040 总表对比。哪列不对,就知道/再细查具体的差距在哪里。
我也吃过这个亏。 因为CPA报税还是保险稳当为最大。不是特别为客人考虑的。
今年老公用turbo tax,花了一天时间比去年能多退很多钱。都是真实的填,federal和state都是一天之内accept了。软件费也比CPA便宜
s/股票收入/房租什么的完全可以自己拿tubor tax报
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个人简单的报税才收几十刀 平均填表30分钟 税法细则每年变 depreciation 就有几种做法可选
你还指望CPA能给你做周全了?
我还是找的国税局税务师报税 理论上比CPA更精通税务,还是给我少报了Credit
我自己学过federal taxation,找税务师报税纯为了有个cushion ,IRS万一查 有个垫被的
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IRS网站有介绍 拿执照要考三门好像 federal 的不像CPA是州的
教会10刀20都有
学校免费给5万刀收入以下报都有
谁说富人才可以找CPA?杠精再见
你不是拿w2的呀,如果拿w2,hsa一般已经在工资里扣的, 而且一般是pretax deduction ,如果是这种情况, 你不能再扣一遍
软件方便
一是可以清楚家庭收支明细,二是可以熟悉税法知道各种减免,还可以学习如何提前计划各种省税策略,比如放401k或者hsa,最后还可以省下付给CPA的钱
奇怪了,谁跟你杠啦
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同觉得。 HSA已经在你的W2里面扣除了, 不能再一次省税。觉得CPA没有报错。
HSA没抵税,妹妹要弄清楚你的HSA是从工资里直接扣掉的吗?回去找张paystub看看,如果你的HSAcontribution已经是pre tax
contribution了,那你做税时就不能再deduct了。
CPA有可能出错,但是不可能你知道的他还不知道。另外说找CPA垫背的,有这种想法的人,太让人鄙视了
谢谢你~我HSA有从工资里扣的,有后来自己contribute了一点因为急着付手术账单...这个和CPA说过了但是他们没有弄清吧
报州税把你算成non resident,这个好奇怪,你提供的地址难道不是那个州的地址吗?把地址输进去,软件都会决定你是resident 还是non resident的。按non resident报的话,只需要申报你所有收入里属于那个州的收入,怎么税还反倒多了?
HSA contribution有limitation的,你的contribution超过limitation了吗?这种事情,除非CPA给忘了,如果他报税时加进去了,基本上是不会出错的。
agree,我家最早的时候是ld的姐姐cpa报的税,第一年f1之后工作年份的5000刀不用交税,她都没算在里面,说这个东西她不清楚,所以不算
这个算下来妹妹可能还少交税了呢。拿5000treaty是按照non resident报的,如果不按non resident报的话,你就可以享受shandard deduction了,这个一万多的deduction可比那5000的treaty划算太多了
RESIDENT也可以报TREATY,享受STANDARD DEDUCTION。 TREATY是跟着身份走的,只要是F1,包括F1转身份那一年,不管几年都是可以报的。有SAVINGS CLAUSE。
纯讨论哈,下面是我在IRS网站看到的:
Tax treaties reduce the U.S. taxes of residents of foreign countries. With certain exceptions, they do not reduce the U.S. taxes of U.S. citizens or residents. U.S. citizens and residents are subject to U.S. income tax on their worldwide income.
根据上面说的,treaty do not reduce taxes of US citizens or residents, F1转身分那年,满足了183 天的条件,按照tax resident报税了,那就不能再享受treaty了
好像是这样,我第一年报税,找会计师弄tax treaty. 会计师说不知道这回事,不给弄。我想算了,狠狠心啃了1040,自己撸袖子上了。结果没高清exemption 和deduction 区别,IRS 还给我解释了一番,多退了点银子
妹妹,你是说可以同时享受standard deduction和treaty吗?non resident可以有exemption,但是没有standard deduction,如果报1040而不是1040NR的话,就是按照resident报的
as long as you are F1, you can claim treaty within 5 years of accumulated time stayed in US as F1.
for being within the first year as F1 in USA, your only choice is claim tax treaty because mostly you are a non resident.
however, after being a fully resident for the 1st year, you are free to choose between filing as non resident or resident , within the "5 years"
OP can claim the treaty, however, it is not worth doing that because simply a itemized deduction will beat that 5000
you can not claim treaty and standard deduction the same time. because standard deduction is only for resident. and treaty is for non resident.
However, within 5 years of F1 status, you are free to go either way. meaning you either can file standard or treaty, but not the same time.
当地有些华人CPA很不专业,拿客户的经济状况出来八卦
绝对不用她们!
12000 standard deduction only begins from 2018, 2017 is still 6350, but it is surely higher than 5000
得看怎么存的
通过公司payroll before tax扣的不能再重复抵税
但是如果是自己after tax存的是可以的
比如通过公司存2000
自己再存1000
那么这个1000是可以抵税的
有责任心的CPA都是在对你来说合法的情况下尽量帮你用上各种deduction和credit。你要是不适用于申报一些credit确申报了,查到是你自己的大麻烦。
马上正常申报截止日期要到了,不能按时申报先提交一个延期申报的表,不然你要被罚款
if OP doesnt owe tax, there will be no fine.
对了,他应该是用软件,那个软件没有non resident的部分
原来这样,不可思议啊
是,我觉得lz也搞不清楚,既然找了cpa,可以问一下吧
NR可以报itemized deduction啊,很多时候比standard deduction高。treaty和deduction并不冲突