Once in office, Hitler and his regime sought to reduce the influence of Christianity on society. From the mid-1930s, his government was increasingly dominated by militant anti-church proponents like Goebbels, Bormann, Himmler, Rosenberg and Heydrich whom Hitler appointed to key posts. These anti-church radicals were generally permitted or encouraged to perpetrate the Nazi persecutions of the churches... Hitler agreed to the Reich concordat with the Vatican, but then routinely ignored it, and permitted persecutions of the Catholic Church... Hitler said he anticipated a coming collapse of Christianity in the wake of scientific advances, and that Nazism and religion could not co-exist long term. Although he was prepared to delay conflicts for political reasons, historians conclude that he ultimately intended the destruction of Christianity in Germany, or at least its distortion or subjugation to a Nazi outlook.
This view of “reason”—and of its power, freed from the shackles of history, tradition and experience—is what Kant called “Enlightenment.” It is completely wrong. Human reason is incapable of reaching universally valid, unassailably correct answers to the problems of science, morality and politics by applying the methods of mathematics.
The first warning of this was Descartes’s 1644 magnum opus, “The Principles of Philosophy,” which claimed to reach a final determination of the nature of the universe by moving from self-evident premises through infallible deductions. This voluminous work is so scandalously absurd that no unabridged English version is in print today.
【 在 alpha511 (小二) 的大作中提到: 】 : 唯物主义的必然结果是无神论 : materialism regards matter as the only reality in the world : 神在物质/自然世界之外 必然不可能存在 : 没有神就没有客观存在的universal的道德 morality becomes euphemism for "what I : like" and "what I dislike" : 或者说没有神就没有客观存在的universal的对错之分 : 比如摩西律法中说thou shall not murder : 对与某些文化 murdering is a way of life 比如维京人信基督教前就是靠烧杀抢掠为 : 生 “murdering是错的” 对于维京人来说是个陌生概念 : 如果没有高于人 高于自然的神界定正义与邪恶 所有的道德标准就是相对的道德标准 : ...................
materialism regards matter as the only reality in the world
神在物质/自然世界之外 必然不可能存在
没有神就没有客观存在的universal的道德 morality becomes euphemism for "what I like" and "what I dislike"
或者说没有神就没有客观存在的universal的对错之分
先有神才能有“对”与“错”的概念
道德无法悬空存在 必须得基于一个绝对的判断标准。只有高于人的神才能定义人（无
论文化历史背景）必须同意并遵守的对错标准
比如摩西律法中说thou shall not murder
对与某些文化 murdering is a way of life 比如维京人信基督教前就是靠烧杀抢掠为生 “murdering是错的” 对于维京人来说是个陌生概念
如果没有高于人 高于自然的神界定正义与邪恶 所有的道德标准就是相对的道德标准
是主观的道德标准
否认高于人 高于自然的神的存在 等于否认客观的universal的道德存在 等于否认道德存在
比如holocaust。 纳粹主义宣扬无神论（20世纪两大魔头 纳粹主义和共产主义 都宣扬无神论）
纳粹搞种族屠杀 mass murder 一点都不觉得不道德 相反有很多理论论证种族屠杀的必要性
如果一切道德都是相对的 那公说公有理 婆说婆有理 holocaust 变成了情有可原的事情
所以纳粹主义反道德
如果否认客观的universal的道德存在 那一切事 比如种族屠杀 大规模堕胎 抢劫富人
搞共产 都可以被涂抹成正义之举
法国人向你问好
只有打倒垃圾的亚伯拉罕教，才有真正的道德树立
再说，现在基督徒有几个是真信的？多半就是去教会打打屁 蹭个饭
: 学前班的叙述
: 法国人向你问好
: 只有打倒垃圾的亚伯拉罕教，才有真正的道德树立
纳粹和共产主义政权治下的社会是20世纪两种最道德沦丧的社会
: 圣经上的大屠杀还少了？
: 再说，现在基督徒有几个是真信的？多半就是去教会打打屁 蹭个饭
旧约中的犹太人是反面典型
: 纳粹绝对是信基督教的 不要在狡辩了
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
Once in office, Hitler and his regime sought to reduce the influence of
Christianity on society. From the mid-1930s, his government was increasingly dominated by militant anti-church proponents like Goebbels, Bormann,
Himmler, Rosenberg and Heydrich whom Hitler appointed to key posts. These
anti-church radicals were generally permitted or encouraged to perpetrate
the Nazi persecutions of the churches... Hitler agreed to the Reich
concordat with the Vatican, but then routinely ignored it, and permitted
persecutions of the Catholic Church... Hitler said he anticipated a coming
collapse of Christianity in the wake of scientific advances, and that Nazism and religion could not co-exist long term. Although he was prepared to
delay conflicts for political reasons, historians conclude that he
ultimately intended the destruction of Christianity in Germany, or at least its distortion or subjugation to a Nazi outlook.
: 学前班的叙述
: 法国人向你问好
: 只有打倒垃圾的亚伯拉罕教，才有真正的道德树立
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-dark-side-of-the-enlightenment-1523050206
This view of “reason”—and of its power, freed from the shackles of
history, tradition and experience—is what Kant called “Enlightenment.” It is completely wrong. Human reason is incapable of reaching universally
valid, unassailably correct answers to the problems of science, morality and politics by applying the methods of mathematics.
The first warning of this was Descartes’s 1644 magnum opus, “The
Principles of Philosophy,” which claimed to reach a final determination of the nature of the universe by moving from self-evident premises through
infallible deductions. This voluminous work is so scandalously absurd that
no unabridged English version is in print today.
如果人的道德由神来界定，那么神的道德又是由谁来界定的？
本就没有什么绝对的道德，道德是由当下大多数人的利益来界定的，是时变的。
【 在 alpha511 (小二) 的大作中提到: 】
: 唯物主义的必然结果是无神论
: materialism regards matter as the only reality in the world
: 神在物质/自然世界之外 必然不可能存在
: 没有神就没有客观存在的universal的道德 morality becomes euphemism for "what I
: like" and "what I dislike"
: 或者说没有神就没有客观存在的universal的对错之分
: 比如摩西律法中说thou shall not murder
: 对与某些文化 murdering is a way of life 比如维京人信基督教前就是靠烧杀抢掠为
: 生 “murdering是错的” 对于维京人来说是个陌生概念
: 如果没有高于人 高于自然的神界定正义与邪恶 所有的道德标准就是相对的道德标准
: ...................
: 你这个论断太容易反驳了。
: 如果人的道德由神来界定，那么神的道德又是由谁来界定的？
: 本就没有什么绝对的道德，道德是由当下大多数人的利益来界定的，是时变的。
: I
"道德是由当下大多数人的利益来界定的" 这就是道德相对主义 是反道德的
在实践上是反动的
唯物主义是世界一切罪恶的根源
: 你这个论断太容易反驳了。
: 如果人的道德由神来界定，那么神的道德又是由谁来界定的？
: 本就没有什么绝对的道德，道德是由当下大多数人的利益来界定的，是时变的。
: I
神by definition 所做的一切都是对的
道德是判断对错的标准 神显然不需要道德