【 在 Peter1688 (一路发) 的大作中提到: 】 : Thanks for sharing your experience with us. : Since January 1, 2013, the performances of following ETFs and stocks are : approximately: : UPRO 8X : TQQQ 12X : SOXL 22X : SVXY 7X : AMZN 5X : TCEHY 10X : NFLX 18X
We do the entire group , usually. Market cap is not important , Like Btsc gahc Btcs those bought together at 2016 for Btc play. Btsc bought at 0.002, sold at average 12cent. 60x! $50k initial investment made $3m Then btsc continue to trade at 20% size at later round . Then Mara , those start to buy under 2, sold at 8+ next few days. Then those xnet riot lfin , also 10 to 20+ play all bought at bottom . This is only 1 big trend we got at 2017, there are another 2 trend as Big bt penny . The way we do it , very low risk , and high return. Our group start buy ostk at 16 la, I start all in at 29! 【 在 Ektar (Ektar) 的大作中提到: 】 : 你们做的小盘股market cap一般多少？不妨举几个picks？
【 在 stockfans12 (sf) 的大作中提到: 】 : We do the entire group , usually. : Market cap is not important , : Like Btsc gahc Btcs those bought together at 2016 for Btc play. : Btsc bought at 0.002, sold at average 12cent. 60x! : $50k initial investment made $3m : Then btsc continue to trade at 20% size at later round . : Then Mara , those start to buy under 2, sold at 8+ next few days. : Then those xnet riot lfin , also 10 to 20+ play all bought at bottom . : This is only 1 big trend we got at 2017, there are another 2 trend as : Big bt penny . : The way we do it , very low risk , and high return. : Our group start buy ostk at 16 la, I start all in at 29!
真大牛 [在 stockfans12 (sf) 的大作中提到：] :We do the entire group , usually. :Market cap is not important , :Like Btsc gahc Btcs those bought together at 2016 for Btc play. :Btsc bought at 0.002, sold at average 12cent. 60x! :$50k initial investment made $3m :Then btsc continue to trade at 20% size at later round . :Then Mara , those start to buy under 2, sold at 8+ next few days. :Then those xnet riot lfin , also 10 to 20+ play all bought at bottom . :This is only 1 big trend we got at 2017, there are another 2 trend as :Big bt penny . :..........
年初大盘这波，我试着 pyramid & average up，成效还不错。 以您的看法，大盘目前处在 melt-up 的哪个阶段？
【 在 stockfans12 (sf) 的大作中提到: 】 : We do the entire group , usually. : Market cap is not important , : Like Btsc gahc Btcs those bought together at 2016 for Btc play. : Btsc bought at 0.002, sold at average 12cent. 60x! : $50k initial investment made $3m : Then btsc continue to trade at 20% size at later round . : Then Mara , those start to buy under 2, sold at 8+ next few days. : Then those xnet riot lfin , also 10 to 20+ play all bought at bottom . : This is only 1 big trend we got at 2017, there are another 2 trend as : Big bt penny . : ...................
别人的 picks & trading advise，自己要做 due diligence，对自己的决策负责。
摘个故事，共勉——
Livermore The Sucker – Part 2
Another occasion when Livermore was suckered was when he broke one of his cardinal rules – the rule that said he should think for himself rather than accepting tips from other people.
On this occasion he was steadily buying-up shares in Union Pacific when a much respected, and well-informed friend, Ed Harding, called him and told him that insiders were selling Union Pacific – and worse than that, they were selling to Livermore – Livermore was being suckered. The insiders were feeding him all the stock they could shift. Livermore’s own reading of the tape was that the stock price was rising due to real demand. He told this to Harding. Harding, his friend, responded:
“I got heart disease when your orders began to come in. For the love of Mike, don’t be a sucker. Get out! Right away. It’s liable to bust wide open any minute. I’ve done my duty. Good-bye!”
And he hung up.
Despite his doubts, Livermore decided to believe his friend. He sold his shares and then sold Union Pacific short at $162.
The next day Union Pacific declared a 10 percent dividend and the stock leapt to a new record high price. Livermore, realizing the information he had been given was wrong, bought Union Pacific back at $172 and $174 for a total loss of $40,000.
Livermore was philosophical about the loss. His own interpretation of the tape had been correct. Listening to a tip had been wrong. He did not hold a grudge against Ed Harding because he believed the incident had completed his education as a trader. In Livermore’s view, $40,000 was:
“A low price for a man to pay for not having the courage of his own convictions! It was a cheap lesson.”
Livermore The Sucker – Part 3
When Livermore lost much of his fortune in the cotton market he concluded that he had not just been a sucker, he had been a super-sucker. On this occasion he broke two of his cardinal rules. Firstly, he let someone else’s apparently brilliant analysis of a situation influence his trading decisions; then he increased his stake in a position that was showing him a loss while selling a position that was showing him a profit.
At the beginning of his involvement with cotton and wheat, Livermore had been bearish on cotton and bullish on wheat. Accordingly, he had gone short on cotton and he had gone long on wheat. On paper, he was in profit on both positions.
And then he met Percy Thomas. Percy Thomas had a fine reputation in commodities and he persuaded Livermore that his information on cotton was all wrong. Thomas had better information and that information said cotton was going to go up. Livermore said:
“Gradually, as I began to accept his facts and figures, I began to fear I had been basing my previous position on misinformation. Of course I could not feel that way and not cover. And once I had covered because Thomas made me think I was wrong, I simply had to go long. It is the way my mind works.”
Unfortunately, the price of cotton fell. Livermore sold his profitable position in wheat (a position which, had he held it, would have profited him by eight million dollars) to buy more cotton. Every day Livermore bought more cotton. In fact, he bought so much cotton that he was supporting an entire market into which the smart money was selling.
In the end, this incident did not wipe out Livermore’s fortune completely, but it lost him millions. After it, in dollars, he had fewer hundreds of thousands than he’d had in millions before it.
“To learn that a man can make foolish plays for no reason whatever was a valuable lesson. It cost me millions to learn that another dangerous enemy to a trader is his susceptibility to the urgings of a magnetic personality when plausibly expressed by a brilliant mind.”
“It has always seemed to me, however, that I might have learned my lesson quite as well if the cost had been only one million. But Fate does not always let you fix the tuition fee. She delivers the educational wallop and presents her own bill, knowing you have to pay it, no matter what the amount may be. Having learned what folly I was capable of I closed that particular incident. Percy Thomas went out of my life.”
rival这些经验你以后会理解。当然距离legend还有无限距离。
【 在 Taiji1994 (飞狐) 的大作中提到: 】
: 第一条可以归结为龙头股。龙头股升起来快，抗跌性好。这个完全同意。爬了下楼，居
: 然有那么多人对苹果和奶飞不待见，蛮有意思。
: 关于TA的看法不敢苟同。很多人一买就跌，一卖就涨，症结在于不知道股票的支撑和阻
: 力。这是TA擅长的事。
: 关于期权，完全不能同意。老夫还是那句话，股票是用来投资的，期权是用来炒的。期
: 权入门以后，根本不会对炒股票有兴趣。
: [在 rival (sss) 的大作中提到：]
: :炒股这么多年，总结些经验出来，攒些rp，针对大部分散户，天才高手请绕行，你们
: 那套眼花缭乱的玩意我学不来，大部分人也学不来，跟了亏了也不管赔偿，只能走火入
: 魔。
: ...................
纪律真的很重要。俺脑子一热买的股下场都不怎么好，要么是直接亏废了，要么患得患失割或者收早了。
换。但A股上市后从来没有碰过。我的经验只适用于美股。
【 在 marketwatch (市场观察) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你一开口感觉是A股炒多了，美股经验不足。
: rival这些经验你以后会理解。当然距离legend还有无限距离。
: nflx我不用
: 我有Amazon prime但是也很少有用 准备砍掉
: 我家小孩不花钱在线看所有电影 老美用盗版的比你想象的多得多 我觉得nflx这红种
: 长期必死
这位还健在？
NFLX马上300给你看
NFLX是过去十年第一神股
后十年也是，
这一条不是很赞同，看好的，未来确定性比较高的股票就可以买， 你也确定不了是你
想买的时候价格底还是 他dip的时候价格底啊。 这种择时买股票都有有一定投机性的
Linkedlin 有些人也天天用，是一些公司员工的facebook，股价照样被腰斩。Intel算
不算天天用的，股价到现在也没有从00年恢复回来。你这个proven winner就是好的的
分析完全没道理，任何市场上面的winner都有可能因为各种问题股价暴跌，你一个散户一定是最后才知道的那个。现在是市场好，这时候啥理论都能赚钱，等到熊市亏钱的时候就傻了。
SP500也有跌的时候，但是因为相对分散风险低不少。你这第一条其实就是在增加极大
风险的的情况下去赌那些收益。
【 在 rival (sss) 的大作中提到: 】
: 炒股这么多年，总结些经验出来，攒些rp，针对大部分散户，天才高手请绕行，你们那
: 套眼花缭乱的玩意我学不来，大部分人也学不来，跟了亏了也不管赔偿，只能走火入魔。
: 1. 无论长线还是swing,永远买那些市场上的proven winner
: proven winner就是你每天衣食住行的公司，简单说，去google搜索，去amazon购
: 物，去wmt/cost买菜，上wechat朋友圈，goog/amzn/wmt/cost/tencent这个组合在最近
: 5年绝对是大大beat sp500的。诸如twtr/fit/gpro等，想都不要想。对于大部分凡夫俗
: 子散户来说，好股票就在你眼前，问题不是你是否可以找到好股票，而是你愿意不愿意
: 买的问题。
: 2. 未来怎样我不知道，但中钙在过去10几年绝对是国人发财的机会，但前提是你要买
: 好股票，一定要买业界的winner. 千万不要买在市场没有确立地位的股票，当然保守会
: ...................
【在 rival(sss)的大作中提到：】
：炒股这么多年，总结些经验出来，攒些rp，针对大部分散户，天才高手请绕行，你们那套眼花缭乱的玩意我学不来，大部分人也学不来，跟了亏了也不管赔偿，只能走火入魔。
：
【 在 rita888 (rita888) 的大作中提到: 】
: 写的很好，也是我这些年的心得。那垃圾， 3倍，option什么的可能运气好让你赚上一
: 笔，但时间长了，最终都是赔钱。禁得起时间考验的只有在牛市买牛股，并且长持，逢
: 低加仓。
: ：炒股这么多年，总结些经验出来，攒些rp，针对大部分散户，天才高手请绕行，你们
: 那套眼花缭乱的玩意我学不来，大部分人也学不来，跟了亏了也不管赔偿，只能走火入
: 魔。
: ：
[在 rita888 (rita888) 的大作中提到：]
:写的很好，也是我这些年的心得。那垃圾， 3倍，option什么的可能运气好让你赚上
一笔，但时间长了，最终都是赔钱。禁得起时间考验的只有在牛市买牛股，并且长持，逢低加仓。
【在 BigFatAss(大肥屁)的大作中提到：】
：法海他不懂爱，RITA你不懂OPTION
：
: 戒贪。
: 一年20%，50%都是不错的收益，不要看那些一夜暴富，一年10X的故事。害死人。
: 魔。
20%一年的收益还不算暴富？？？？大哥，我现在的期望是每年5%的收益都不敢保证做
到。别说买index就有，那玩也不是每年都10%的。
【 在 guaifei (大肥) 的大作中提到: 】
: 20%一年的收益还不算暴富？？？？大哥，我现在的期望是每年5%的收益都不敢保证做
: 到。别说买index就有，那玩也不是每年都10%的。
: 第一条可以归结为龙头股。龙头股升起来快，抗跌性好。这个完全同意。爬了下楼，居
: 然有那么多人对苹果和奶飞不待见，蛮有意思。
: 关于TA的看法不敢苟同。很多人一买就跌，一卖就涨，症结在于不知道股票的支撑和阻
: 力。这是TA擅长的事。
: 关于期权，完全不能同意。老夫还是那句话，股票是用来投资的，期权是用来炒的。期
: 权入门以后，根本不会对炒股票有兴趣。
好玩，你这个本来到处见到的TA观点，今天看了有了不同的理解。
你现在只做option吗？
[在 menger (买) 的大作中提到：]
:好玩，你这个本来到处见到的TA观点，今天看了有了不同的理解。
:你现在只做option吗？
: 我也有股票账户，但都是buy and hold，用期权来保护和增值。从炒的角度上讲，我只
: 做期权。
炒的咋样？
[在 menger (买) 的大作中提到：]
:炒的咋样？
: 炒了多年，从去年下半年起才开始入门。以前是有赚有赔，赚得多，赔得也多，总体结
: 果不怎么样。入门后好很多，赢率大幅提高，回报率也不是股票能够比得了的。今年到
: 目前为止的结果都做不了数，因为根本没有受到挑战。不过无论如何我是不会再回到炒
: 股票的方式了。现在每一笔交易都有记录，经常总结经验教训。大不了再交点学费。每
: 交一次学费，就能够上一个台阶。
: [在 menger (买) 的大作中提到：]
: :炒的咋样？
恭喜啊。入门不容易啊。你是啥契机入了门？
[在 menger (买) 的大作中提到：]
:恭喜啊。入门不容易啊。你是啥契机入了门？
: 多学习，多积累。对自己的失误要好好的分析，以免重蹈覆辙。交学费不可怕，怕的是
: 学费白交了。另外，要注意控制风险。股市长久赚钱之道是先看风险，再想赚钱。
: [在 menger (买) 的大作中提到：]
: :恭喜啊。入门不容易啊。你是啥契机入了门？
我自己感觉是踏进了一只脚，不过不是靠的自己，是自己东试西试之，碰得头破血流之后，才真正开始知道了师傅操作的高明，才开始老实学习。
对自己的失误的再次避免真是很难，我尽管努力控制，有时候还是管不住自己。
你提到风控，我感到有点惊讶。因为在我这个不懂option的看来，option其实风险很大。你是用多腿的方式来控制吗？
一次option的炒作，盈利目标一般是多少？cut loss吗？
期权的风险在于其时效性。当你真正了解其特性后，炒期权可以比炒股票的风险更小。买入期权最大的损失是投入的资金，比较好理解和控制。
如果长线做多，我走的是趋势，不定目标价，根据情况滚动锁利，在合适的时候辅以短期涨跌期权进行保护，以及抵抗时间值的损失。
如果是短线卖出，我一般走双腿，风险是完全在交易前就定义好了的，把获胜的把握定在70%左右，获利率20-40%，取决于多种因素。这在期权里叫High Probability
Trading。如果严格的做HPT，是不止损的，但我还是会结合趋势，在有些情况下止损。
[在 menger (买) 的大作中提到：]
:我自己感觉是踏进了一只脚，不过不是靠的自己，是自己东试西试之，碰得头破血流
之后，才真正开始知道了师傅操作的高明，才开始老实学习。
:对自己的失误的再次避免真是很难，我尽管努力控制，有时候还是管不住自己。
:你提到风控，我感到有点惊讶。因为在我这个不懂option的看来，option其实风险很
大。你是用多腿的方式来控制吗？
:一次option的炒作，盈利目标一般是多少？cut loss吗？
: 有师傅指导肯定来得快很多。
: 期权的风险在于其时效性。当你真正了解其特性后，炒期权可以比炒股票的风险更小。
: 买入期权最大的损失是投入的资金，比较好理解和控制。
: 如果长线做多，我走的是趋势，不定目标价，根据情况滚动锁利，在合适的时候辅以短
: 期涨跌期权进行保护，以及抵抗时间值的损失。
: 如果是短线卖出，我一般走双腿，风险是完全在交易前就定义好了的，把获胜的把握定
: 在70%左右，获利率20-40%，取决于多种因素。这在期权里叫High Probability
: Trading。如果严格的做HPT，是不止损的，但我还是会结合趋势，在有些情况下止损。
好玩，我做股现在也是走趋势。
获利率20-40%不是很高啊。长线获利率如何？
趋势永远是第一位的。
[在 menger (买) 的大作中提到：]
:好玩，我做股现在也是走趋势。
:获利率20-40%不是很高啊。长线获利率如何？
: 单看20-40%获利率的确一般，要保持70%胜率，获利率是有所取舍。长线一般50-100%。
: 趋势永远是第一位的。
嗯。你做的不错。
我问这些，是想比较一下，看看还是完全专注于我现在的炒股，还是也开始看看option。
相比之下，我还是专心做股了，因为我做的是小盘股，获利率不输于option，风险随着技艺的增长，会进一步降低。某种程度上，小盘股还有个优势就是不用考虑时间的损耗。
谢谢你的分享。
option上球球看着很火热，不知道你们是不是有异曲同工之处。不过，觉得球球赌性更强些，获利率更高些。
我看你问得认真，所以也就认真回答。股市里面的钱是赚不完的，没有必要保密。对了，你这个id有些年头了吧？我好像在前几年见过。
我觉得这个月球球的做法比我现在的做法盈利率高。
[在 menger (买) 的大作中提到：]
:嗯。你做的不错。
:我问这些，是想比较一下，看看还是完全专注于我现在的炒股，还是也开始看看
option。
:相比之下，我还是专心做股了，因为我做的是小盘股，获利率不输于option，风险随
着技艺的增长，会进一步降低。某种程度上，小盘股还有个优势就是不用考虑时间的损耗。
:谢谢你的分享。
:option上球球看着很火热，不知道你们是不是有异曲同工之处。不过，觉得球球赌性
更强些，获利率更高些。
【 在 menger(买) 的大作中提到: 】
: 嗯。你做的不错。
: 我问这些，是想比较一下，看看还是完全专注于我现在的炒股，还是也开始看看option。
: 相比之下，我还是专心做股了，因为我做的是小盘股，获利率不输于option，风险随着
: 技艺的增长，会进一步降低。某种程度上，小盘股还有个优势就是不用考虑时间的损耗。
: 谢谢你的分享。
: option上球球看着很火热，不知道你们是不是有异曲同工之处。不过，觉得球球赌性更
: 强些，获利率更高些。
如果真的看得准方向，做标的可能更容易加仓止盈止损。
m2这身炒小盘股的辟邪剑法是跟师父学的？：）
【 在 menger (买) 的大作中提到: 】
: 嗯。你做的不错。
: 我问这些，是想比较一下，看看还是完全专注于我现在的炒股，还是也开始看看
option。
: 相比之下，我还是专心做股了，因为我做的是小盘股，获利率不输于option，风险随着
: 技艺的增长，会进一步降低。某种程度上，小盘股还有个优势就是不用考虑时间的损耗。
: 谢谢你的分享。
: option上球球看着很火热，不知道你们是不是有异曲同工之处。不过，觉得球球赌性更
: 强些，获利率更高些。
: 条条大路通罗马，不一定非要做期权。股市里面赚钱是王道，不管走哪条路。我刚入市
: 的时候做小盘股，亏了不少。你能把小盘股做好，很牛啊。
: 我看你问得认真，所以也就认真回答。股市里面的钱是赚不完的，没有必要保密。对了
: ，你这个id有些年头了吧？我好像在前几年见过。
: 我觉得这个月球球的做法比我现在的做法盈利率高。
嗯。我做的不行，我师傅牛。
这个id的确有些年头了。以前就是自己琢磨，后来熊市试图抄底被套，损失及其惨重，就心灰意冷，刚好把精力完全投入到了另一个兴趣中。几年过后，又开始看，然后到了168，见到了不少好trader，收到不少人帮助，遇到师傅，自己还是喜欢瞎折腾。真正
认真开始把炒股当career来做，还是最近几年的事儿，以前就是一般做做。从去年后半年开始才完全集中做小股。
: 你还是继续做股票吧，期权时间减损这一点决定了只有大概率赌对方向才能稳定获利，
: 而且心态会比较起伏。我尝试着搞了点短期期权，发现完全影响了自己的心态和生活，
: 压力山大不合算。
哈哈哈。。。好，那就继续做股。你多推荐点火箭股啊。
: 小盘股的期权市场流动性一般不大好。
: 如果真的看得准方向，做标的可能更容易加仓止盈止损。
: m2这身炒小盘股的辟邪剑法是跟师父学的？：）
小盘股，尤其是我们做的小盘股，股价一般比大股option定价都低很多，基本没有
option。 ：）
完全跟师傅学，不过自己技术还没学精，心理还没练到足够强大，操作还太过保守。
[在 menger (买) 的大作中提到：]
:嗯。我做的不行，我师傅牛。
:这个id的确有些年头了。以前就是自己琢磨，后来熊市试图抄底被套，损失及其惨重
，就心灰意冷，刚好把精力完全投入到了另一个兴趣中。几年过后，又开始看，然后到了168，见到了不少好trader，收到不少人帮助，遇到师傅，自己还是喜欢瞎折腾。真正
:认真开始把炒股当career来做，还是最近几年的事儿，以前就是一般做做。从去年后
半年开始才完全集中做小股。
[在 GoRockets (火箭加油) 的大作中提到：]
:你还是继续做股票吧，期权时间减损这一点决定了只有大概率赌对方向才能稳定获利
，而且心态会比较起伏。我尝试着搞了点短期期权，发现完全影响了自己的心态和生活，压力山大不合算。
:<br>: 嗯。你做的不错。
:<br>: 我问这些，是想比较一下，看看还是完全专注于我现在的炒股，还是
也开始看看option。
:<br>: 相比之下，我还是专心做股了，因为我做的是小盘股，获利率不输于
option，风险随着
:<br>: 技艺的增长，会进一步降低。某种程度上，小盘股还有个优势就是不
用考虑时间的损耗。
:<br>: 谢谢你的分享。
:<br>: option上球球看着很火热，不知道你们是不是有异曲同工之处。不过
，觉得球球赌性更
:<br>: 强些，获利率更高些。
:<br>
EL你们女人总知道吧
【 在 menger (买) 的大作中提到: 】
: 小盘股，尤其是我们做的小盘股，股价一般比大股option定价都低很多，基本没有
: option。 ：）
: 完全跟师傅学，不过自己技术还没学精，心理还没练到足够强大，操作还太过保守。
【 在 menger (买) 的大作中提到: 】
: 小盘股，尤其是我们做的小盘股，股价一般比大股option定价都低很多，基本没有
: option。 ：）
: 完全跟师傅学，不过自己技术还没学精，心理还没练到足够强大，操作还太过保守。
。如果没有做到这一点，要么天赋异禀，要么放不开手操作。指望期权来使自己净资产翻倍基本都是不切实际的想法，跟用30倍杠杆炒forex没什么区别。参透了这一点，期
权基本算入门了。最近大家不少期权赚了大钱，同样的策略放到15年基本就死光了
Since January 1, 2013, the performances of following ETFs and stocks are
approximately:
UPRO 8X
TQQQ 12X
SOXL 22X
SVXY 7X
AMZN 5X
TCEHY 10X
NFLX 18X
: 恭喜啊，有个好师傅是一大幸事。我09年入市，那时经常到这个板上看。后来也是断断
: 续续。从去年又开始多花些时间在这上面。
是啊。真是幸运啊。我这一生两个最大兴趣，都遇到了明师，有时候想想都觉得不可思议啊。 ：）
炒股是挺难的一件事。我是比较笨的，需要师傅带，否则可能根本入不了门。
[在 menger (买) 的大作中提到：]
:是啊。真是幸运啊。我这一生两个最大兴趣，都遇到了明师，有时候想想都觉得不可
思议啊。 ：）
:炒股是挺难的一件事。我是比较笨的，需要师傅带，否则可能根本入不了门。
: 你们做的小盘股market cap一般多少？不妨举几个picks？
其实我说的不准确。有时候也做比较大的hot stock，比如ostk,twmjf啥的。
还有bicx，advt，sigo。。。
基本上大多数属于班上称之的垃圾股。 :) 这些股的炒作有其独特的要求，做好不是很容易。
: 还有什么兴趣？说来听听。
佛法修行。世界上最值得做的事，也是最好玩的事。 ：）
: Thanks for sharing your experience with us.
: Since January 1, 2013, the performances of following ETFs and stocks are
: approximately:
: UPRO 8X
: TQQQ 12X
: SOXL 22X
: SVXY 7X
: AMZN 5X
: TCEHY 10X
: NFLX 18X
peter 来捣乱啦。 ：）
Market cap is not important ,
Like Btsc gahc Btcs those bought together at 2016 for Btc play.
Btsc bought at 0.002, sold at average 12cent. 60x!
$50k initial investment made $3m
Then btsc continue to trade at 20% size at later round .
Then Mara , those start to buy under 2, sold at 8+ next few days.
Then those xnet riot lfin , also 10 to 20+ play all bought at bottom .
This is only 1 big trend we got at 2017, there are another 2 trend as
Big bt penny .
The way we do it , very low risk , and high return.
Our group start buy ostk at 16 la, I start all in at 29!
【 在 Ektar (Ektar) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你们做的小盘股market cap一般多少？不妨举几个picks？
内到阵里杀个来回。
: We do the entire group , usually.
: Market cap is not important ,
: Like Btsc gahc Btcs those bought together at 2016 for Btc play.
: Btsc bought at 0.002, sold at average 12cent. 60x!
: $50k initial investment made $3m
: Then btsc continue to trade at 20% size at later round .
: Then Mara , those start to buy under 2, sold at 8+ next few days.
: Then those xnet riot lfin , also 10 to 20+ play all bought at bottom .
: This is only 1 big trend we got at 2017, there are another 2 trend as
: Big bt penny .
: The way we do it , very low risk , and high return.
: Our group start buy ostk at 16 la, I start all in at 29!
master, indeed, hot group play. 一个字，‘爽’。 ：）
: 美股不懂期权的应该都不算入门。连成捆捡垃圾的四到饭都能举着options的锤子一天
: 内到阵里杀个来回。
嗯。我师傅的确样样精通。 ：）
[在 stockfans12 (sf) 的大作中提到：]
:We do the entire group , usually.
:Market cap is not important ,
:Like Btsc gahc Btcs those bought together at 2016 for Btc play.
:Btsc bought at 0.002, sold at average 12cent. 60x!
:$50k initial investment made $3m
:Then btsc continue to trade at 20% size at later round .
:Then Mara , those start to buy under 2, sold at 8+ next few days.
:Then those xnet riot lfin , also 10 to 20+ play all bought at bottom .
:This is only 1 big trend we got at 2017, there are another 2 trend as
:Big bt penny .
:..........
: 真大牛
祝你有一天也和我师傅一样牛。 ：）
[在 menger (买) 的大作中提到：]
:祝你有一天也和我师傅一样牛。 ：）
: 谢谢。我不过刚入门而已。
不轻初学。共同努力。
【 在 rival (sss) 的大作中提到: 】
: 别再顶我这个陈年贴了。
: 别再顶我这个陈年贴了。
哈哈哈。。。那你写个新的？
: 真大牛
对了，班上球球，e神做option都挺牛。肯定有不少可以学习的地方。
还有一位，也是原168的顶梁柱之一，一位option大牛，泰老师 （test3），他有时候
会来这里玩，如果能有机会得到他的指点肯定也会受益良多。我当年想向他学，因为实在是资质不够，被他默然拒绝。不过，他帮了我许多，也促成了我找到了师傅。
[在 menger (买) 的大作中提到：]
:对了，班上球球，e神做option都挺牛。肯定有不少可以学习的地方。
:还有一位，也是原168的顶梁柱之一，一位option大牛，泰老师 （test3），他有时候:会来这里玩，如果能有机会得到他的指点肯定也会受益良多。我当年想向他学，因为
实在是资质不够，被他默然拒绝。不过，他帮了我许多，也促成了我找到了师傅。
我目前做 reversal 把握比较大，还不太会 momo play。
年初大盘这波，我试着 pyramid & average up，成效还不错。
以您的看法，大盘目前处在 melt-up 的哪个阶段？
【 在 stockfans12 (sf) 的大作中提到: 】
: We do the entire group , usually.
: Market cap is not important ,
: Like Btsc gahc Btcs those bought together at 2016 for Btc play.
: Btsc bought at 0.002, sold at average 12cent. 60x!
: $50k initial investment made $3m
: Then btsc continue to trade at 20% size at later round .
: Then Mara , those start to buy under 2, sold at 8+ next few days.
: Then those xnet riot lfin , also 10 to 20+ play all bought at bottom .
: This is only 1 big trend we got at 2017, there are another 2 trend as
: Big bt penny .
: ...................
【 在 rival (sss) 的大作中提到: 】
: 别再顶我这个陈年贴了。
loser.
【在 stockfans12(sf)的大作中提到：】
：We do the entire group , usually.
：Market cap is not important ,
【 在 ID0 (那些年) 的大作中提到: 】
: 青蛙来回答rival大神第8点:我专操金矿3x并且多年来持续大赚
【 在 ID0 (那些年) 的大作中提到: 】
: 青蛙来回答rival大神第8点:我专操金矿3x并且多年来持续大赚
【 在 ID0 (那些年) 的大作中提到: 】
: 青蛙来回答rival大神第8点:我专操金矿3x并且多年来持续大赚
靠谱总结 只是有的时候 自以为是底了 然后发现继续不见底。。。
【 在 rival (sss) 的大作中提到: 】
: 炒股这么多年，总结些经验出来，攒些rp，针对大部分散户，天才高手请绕行，你们那
: 套眼花缭乱的玩意我学不来，大部分人也学不来，跟了亏了也不管赔偿，只能走火入魔。
: 1. 无论长线还是swing,永远买那些市场上的proven winner
: proven winner就是你每天衣食住行的公司，简单说，去google搜索，去amazon购
: 物，去wmt/cost买菜，上wechat朋友圈，goog/amzn/wmt/cost/tencent这个组合在最近
: 5年绝对是大大beat sp500的。诸如twtr/fit/gpro等，想都不要想。对于大部分凡夫俗
: 子散户来说，好股票就在你眼前，问题不是你是否可以找到好股票，而是你愿意不愿意
: 买的问题。
: 2. 未来怎样我不知道，但中钙在过去10几年绝对是国人发财的机会，但前提是你要买
: 好股票，一定要买业界的winner. 千万不要买在市场没有确立地位的股票，当然保守会
: ...................
【 在 damiloveu (飞机上的骆驼) 的大作中提到: 】
: 今天NTES大跌，膜拜一下NTES一哥Rival吧
：今天NTES大跌，膜拜一下NTES一哥Rival吧
从一股两位数推荐你不买 非要等380才买 ？nc
【 在 MaoBaoWenHu () 的大作中提到: 】
: ：今天NTES大跌，膜拜一下NTES一哥Rival吧
: 从一股两位数推荐你不买 非要等380才买 ？nc
说得好!顶一下!
【 在 wantage (abstract) 的大作中提到: 】
: 就是，就跟大麻几块钱的时候不买，狗狗50多的时候不买，现在喊贵的人一个心态
LOL
现在白眼狼当道，股版已经不是正常人能呆的地方了。
别人的 picks & trading advise，自己要做 due diligence，对自己的决策负责。
摘个故事，共勉——
Livermore The Sucker – Part 2
Another occasion when Livermore was suckered was when he broke one of his
cardinal rules – the rule that said he should think for himself rather than accepting tips from other people.
On this occasion he was steadily buying-up shares in Union Pacific when a
much respected, and well-informed friend, Ed Harding, called him and told
him that insiders were selling Union Pacific – and worse than that, they
were selling to Livermore – Livermore was being suckered. The insiders were feeding him all the stock they could shift. Livermore’s own reading of the tape was that the stock price was rising due to real demand. He told this
to Harding. Harding, his friend, responded:
“I got heart disease when your orders began to come in. For the love of
Mike, don’t be a sucker. Get out! Right away. It’s liable to bust wide
open any minute. I’ve done my duty. Good-bye!”
And he hung up.
Despite his doubts, Livermore decided to believe his friend. He sold his
shares and then sold Union Pacific short at $162.
The next day Union Pacific declared a 10 percent dividend and the stock
leapt to a new record high price. Livermore, realizing the information he
had been given was wrong, bought Union Pacific back at $172 and $174 for a
total loss of $40,000.
Livermore was philosophical about the loss. His own interpretation of the
tape had been correct. Listening to a tip had been wrong. He did not hold a grudge against Ed Harding because he believed the incident had completed his education as a trader. In Livermore’s view, $40,000 was:
“A low price for a man to pay for not having the courage of his own
convictions! It was a cheap lesson.”
Livermore The Sucker – Part 3
When Livermore lost much of his fortune in the cotton market he concluded
that he had not just been a sucker, he had been a super-sucker. On this
occasion he broke two of his cardinal rules. Firstly, he let someone else’s apparently brilliant analysis of a situation influence his trading
decisions; then he increased his stake in a position that was showing him a loss while selling a position that was showing him a profit.
At the beginning of his involvement with cotton and wheat, Livermore had
been bearish on cotton and bullish on wheat. Accordingly, he had gone short on cotton and he had gone long on wheat. On paper, he was in profit on both positions.
And then he met Percy Thomas. Percy Thomas had a fine reputation in
commodities and he persuaded Livermore that his information on cotton was
all wrong. Thomas had better information and that information said cotton
was going to go up. Livermore said:
“Gradually, as I began to accept his facts and figures, I began to fear I
had been basing my previous position on misinformation. Of course I could
not feel that way and not cover. And once I had covered because Thomas made me think I was wrong, I simply had to go long. It is the way my mind works.”
Unfortunately, the price of cotton fell. Livermore sold his profitable
position in wheat (a position which, had he held it, would have profited him by eight million dollars) to buy more cotton. Every day Livermore bought
more cotton. In fact, he bought so much cotton that he was supporting an
entire market into which the smart money was selling.
In the end, this incident did not wipe out Livermore’s fortune completely, but it lost him millions. After it, in dollars, he had fewer hundreds of
thousands than he’d had in millions before it.
“To learn that a man can make foolish plays for no reason whatever was a
valuable lesson. It cost me millions to learn that another dangerous enemy
to a trader is his susceptibility to the urgings of a magnetic personality
when plausibly expressed by a brilliant mind.”
“It has always seemed to me, however, that I might have learned my lesson
quite as well if the cost had been only one million. But Fate does not
always let you fix the tuition fee. She delivers the educational wallop and presents her own bill, knowing you have to pay it, no matter what the amount may be. Having learned what folly I was capable of I closed that particular incident. Percy Thomas went out of my life.”
https://jesse-livermore.com/trading-lessons-suckers.html