Someone should have noticed that none of the major private prison companies opposed California’s Assembly Bill 32, the bill that aimed to ban private prisons.
That’s because California’s ban on private prisons isn’t a ban even though legislators and advocates advertise AB32 that way. Calling it a ban that signals a bigger victory than it is and takes our eyes off the future threats of privatization.
The law bans private detention facilities, but has specific carve-outs that will allow private prison companies to continue to do business in California . Specifically, the law says that it doesn’t apply to: “any facility providing educational, vocational, medical, or other ancillary services to an inmate” or “any privately owned property or facility that is leased and operated” by a law enforcement agency or any private, for-profit prison facility “to provide housing for state prison inmates in order to comply with the requirements of any court-ordered population cap.”
【 在 Ignius (Hyperion) 的大作中提到: 】 : 这个你搞错了，自己看： : Someone should have noticed that none of the major private prison companies : opposed California’s Assembly Bill 32, the bill that aimed to ban private : prisons. : That’s because California’s ban on private prisons isn’t a ban even : though legislators and advocates advertise AB32 that way. Calling it a ban : that signals a bigger victory than it is and takes our eyes off the future : threats of privatization. : The law bans private detention facilities, but has specific carve-outs that : will allow private prison companies to continue to do business in California : ...................
The law bans private detention facilities, but has specific carve-outs that will allow private prison companies to continue to do business in California. Specifically, the law says that it doesn’t apply to: “any facility providing educational, vocational, medical, or other ancillary services to an inmate” or “any privately owned property or facility that is leased and operated” by a law enforcement agency or any private, for-profit prison facility “to provide housing for state prison inmates in order to comply with the requirements of any court-ordered population cap.”
居然条件里面没有pay 和 pension，看来还是防止万一有私人监狱满足了呢，到时再弄一个ban要求有pay 和pto。 你英文好，那你给找找加州啥法律是给普通人提供“providing educational, vocational, medical, or other ancillary services”的？但不能是用从我身上刮的税。
【 在 Ignius (Hyperion) 的大作中提到: 】 : The law bans private detention facilities, but has specific carve-outs that : will allow private prison companies to continue to do business in California : . Specifically, the law says that it doesn’t apply to: “any facility : providing educational, vocational, medical, or other ancillary services to : an inmate” or “any privately owned property or facility that is leased and : operated” by a law enforcement agency or any private, for-profit prison : facility “to provide housing for state prison inmates in order to comply : with the requirements of any court-ordered population cap.” : 狱花更少的钱办同样的事？你们凭啥不把犯罪人供着？不把坐牢变成休假？不行，你们 : 得改！先立法
很简单，还是不够用。加州当初为了服从高院的判决，都已经使用out of state private prison了。 In order to comply with the Supreme Court order in Brown v. Plata, California’s Realignment efforts involved dispatching around 9000 inmates far away, to be housed in private facilities in Arizona, Michigan, Mississippi, Oklahoma and Tennessee.
【 在 Ignius (Hyperion) 的大作中提到: 】 : 很简单，还是不够用。加州当初为了服从高院的判决，都已经使用out of state : private prison了。 : In order to comply with the Supreme Court order in Brown v. Plata, : California’s Realignment efforts involved dispatching around 9000 inmates: far away, to be housed in private facilities in Arizona, Michigan, : Mississippi, Oklahoma and Tennessee. : 狱？为啥要建设新的公立监狱？
The state legislature responded with Assembly Bill 32, which passed, was signed by Newsom and went into effect in January 2020, banning California from entering into any new contracts with private prison companies and beginning a countdown to end all such contracts in the state by 2028.
Florida-based private prison operator GEO Group, Inc., the nation’s largest for-profit prison firm with $2.33 billion in 2018 gross revenue, signed new contracts in December 2019 – just before the law took effect – with the federal Bureau of Prisons (BOP) for two facilities the company operates in California.
GEO also signed a new contract the same month with the U.S. Marshals Service for its 512-bed El Centro Service Processing Center until 2028, in addition to a contract already in place to run the 725-bed Western Region Detention Facility in San Diego for the Marshals until 2027.
Further, GEO Group has pushed back against any application of AB32 that includes the federal detention centers it operates in the state.
“In particular, we believe the restrictions to force a phase-out of federal detention facilities under private management run afoul of the U.S. Constitution’s Supremacy Clause,” the firm stated. “States cannot lawfully pass legislation mandating the closure of federal facilities that displease them on the basis of ideological differences.”
While the law targets the private companies operating detention centers and not the federal government itself, that distinction will have to be resolved in court.
Both GEO Group and its main competitor, Tennessee-based CoreCivic, with $1. 733 billion in 2018 revenue, have numerous ways to continue operating in California under one of the new law’s several loopholes. As one glaring example, the law allows a private prison to remain in business if it provides “educational, vocational, medical, or other ancillary services to an inmate in the custody of, and under the direct supervision of, the Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation [CDCR] or a county sheriff or other law enforcement agency.”
The CDCR may also continue to lease privately-owned prisons so long as the state operates them – as is the case with CoreCivic’s California City Correctional Center. And the state can exempt itself from the law’s provisions if it deems a private prison contract necessary “to comply with the requirements of any court-ordered population cap.” California is currently under a federal court order to reduce its overall prison population to no more than 137.5 percent of the combined design capacity of its facilities.
最正确的解决方案是把轻罪犯人转给私人监狱。你看看加州是如何解决的：不但提高定罪标准，而且立法禁止私人监狱。
【 在 mrnqs (三月) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你还可以更傻逼一点吗？减少监狱支出是靠提高定罪标准来解决的吗？不会给犯人降低
: 生活标准啊！一群左傻逼顶着大爱的头衔非要把犯人们在监狱里当爷伺候，结果支出太
: 大靠不抓罪犯解决问题。你还说这没问题。你TM要么智商是硬伤要么是来带节奏的。: : 你还是不明白，这个法案本身没啥问题，本意是为了解决监狱overflow，减少浪
: 费纳税
: : 人钱。这个是为什么rand paul支持它的原因。但是这个法案create了一些
: loophole，
: : 加州没有及时出台法案添上漏洞才是最操蛋的地方。你们攻击半天根本就没攻击
: 到点儿
: : 上。
: ...................
这个你搞错了，自己看：
Someone should have noticed that none of the major private prison companies opposed California’s Assembly Bill 32, the bill that aimed to ban private
prisons.
That’s because California’s ban on private prisons isn’t a ban even
though legislators and advocates advertise AB32 that way. Calling it a ban
that signals a bigger victory than it is and takes our eyes off the future
threats of privatization.
The law bans private detention facilities, but has specific carve-outs that will allow private prison companies to continue to do business in California
. Specifically, the law says that it doesn’t apply to: “any facility
providing educational, vocational, medical, or other ancillary services to
an inmate” or “any privately owned property or facility that is leased and operated” by a law enforcement agency or any private, for-profit prison
facility “to provide housing for state prison inmates in order to comply
with the requirements of any court-ordered population cap.”
【 在 ebios (火焰山) 的大作中提到: 】
: 最正确的解决方案是把轻罪犯人转给私人监狱。你看看加州是如何解决的：不但提高定罪标准，而且立法禁止私人监狱。
监狱人满为患为什么不能把罪犯transfer 去私人监狱？为什么一定要修新的州政府监
狱！？因为每次修建任何公共设施就是一次贪污的机会，加税的理由，和增加更多的票蛆。
为了保证能达到目标，加州还特意立法禁止私人监狱和加州之间的business 。不就是
因为私人监狱在每个犯人身上花的钱比加州政府的少太多了，不禁不能自圆其说为啥要盖新监狱吗？
【 在 Ignius (Hyperion) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你给犯人降低生活待遇，能解决监狱overflow的问题吗？监狱人满为患不就得修新监狱
: 吗？就这点智商还骂人，我也是服了。看来川粉的最大硬伤就是智商。
: 低生活标准啊！一群左傻逼顶着大爱的头衔非要把犯人们在监狱里当爷伺候，结果支出
: 太大靠不抓罪犯解决问题。你还说这没问题。你TM要么智商是硬伤要么是来带节奏的。
: 浪费纳税
: loophole，
: 击到点儿
你自己看过你贴的东西吗？高大上的理由背后不就是你私人监狱凭啥比我加州公立监狱花更少的钱办同样的事？你们凭啥不把犯罪人供着？不把坐牢变成休假？不行，你们得改！先立法
改供犯人像亲爹，我检查。
如果你的cost 还低，那就在立法要求改狱警像公务员。
加州的理由永远是高大上的，就像你favorite 的prop47一样。
【 在 Ignius (Hyperion) 的大作中提到: 】
: 这个你搞错了，自己看：
: Someone should have noticed that none of the major private prison
companies
: opposed California’s Assembly Bill 32, the bill that aimed to ban private
: prisons.
: That’s because California’s ban on private prisons isn’t a ban even
: though legislators and advocates advertise AB32 that way. Calling it a ban
: that signals a bigger victory than it is and takes our eyes off the future
: threats of privatization.
: The law bans private detention facilities, but has specific carve-outs
that
: will allow private prison companies to continue to do business in
California
: ...................
看懂英文了吗？
【 在 ebios (火焰山) 的大作中提到: 】
: 加州的理由永远是高大上的，就像你favorite 的prop47一样。
: companies
: that
: California
在提高定罪标准的同时，却要求废除死刑
主党对罪犯那是真爱呀，可这是建立在谁的痛苦之上的？
白等躺赢，美华好日无边
【 在 ebios (火焰山) 的大作中提到: 】
: 最正确的解决方案是把轻罪犯人转给私人监狱。你看看加州是如何解决的：不但提高定
: 罪标准，而且立法禁止私人监狱。
The law bans private detention facilities, but has specific carve-outs that will allow private prison companies to continue to do business in California. Specifically, the law says that it doesn’t apply to: “any facility
providing educational, vocational, medical, or other ancillary services to
an inmate” or “any privately owned property or facility that is leased and operated” by a law enforcement agency or any private, for-profit prison
facility “to provide housing for state prison inmates in order to comply
with the requirements of any court-ordered population cap.”
【 在 ebios (火焰山) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你自己看过你贴的东西吗？高大上的理由背后不就是你私人监狱凭啥比我加州公立监狱花更少的钱办同样的事？你们凭啥不把犯罪人供着？不把坐牢变成休假？不行，你们得改！先立法
: 改供犯人像亲爹，我检查。
: 如果你的cost 还低，那就在立法要求改狱警像公务员。
: 加州的理由永远是高大上的，就像你favorite 的prop47一样。
: companies
: that
: California
Prop47的英文是你们的牙买加印度杂写的吧？你看懂了吗？结果好吗？当然如果你是民主党人，以你们的标准结果是大大地好。
说得天花乱坠，理由冠冕堂皇，目的只有一个：一党专政。
现在是以对犯罪人不似亲爹为理由禁了。你们民主党会罢手？即使私人监狱把犯人当爹，你们民主党还会要求把狱警当公务员。不就是要盖新的政府监狱吗？不就是要增加更多的政府公务员？不就是要加税吗？结果不正确，理由“正确”有用吗？
【 在 Ignius (Hyperion) 的大作中提到: 】
: 看懂英文了吗？
居然条件里面没有pay 和 pension，看来还是防止万一有私人监狱满足了呢，到时再弄一个ban要求有pay 和pto。
你英文好，那你给找找加州啥法律是给普通人提供“providing educational,
vocational, medical, or other ancillary services”的？但不能是用从我身上刮的税。
【 在 Ignius (Hyperion) 的大作中提到: 】
: The law bans private detention facilities, but has specific carve-outs
that
: will allow private prison companies to continue to do business in
California
: . Specifically, the law says that it doesn’t apply to: “any facility
: providing educational, vocational, medical, or other ancillary services to
: an inmate” or “any privately owned property or facility that is leased
and
: operated” by a law enforcement agency or any private, for-profit prison
: facility “to provide housing for state prison inmates in order to comply : with the requirements of any court-ordered population cap.”
: 狱花更少的钱办同样的事？你们凭啥不把犯罪人供着？不把坐牢变成休假？不行，你们
: 得改！先立法
我只不过指出你的错误。你说加州立法禁止使用私人监狱，我告诉你你搞错了，私人监狱在加州仍然可以使用。仅此而已。不知道你扯东扯西的吗这么多字干啥. 承认你错了这么难吗？
【 在 ebios (火焰山) 的大作中提到: 】
: Prop47的英文是你们的牙买加印度杂写的吧？你看懂了吗？结果好吗？当然如果你是民主党人，以你们的标准结果是大大地好。
: 说得天花乱坠，理由冠冕堂皇，目的只有一个：一党专政。
: 现在是以对犯罪人不似亲爹为理由禁了。你们民主党会罢手？即使私人监狱把犯人当爹，你们民主党还会要求把狱警当公务员。不就是要盖新的政府监狱吗？不就是要增加更多的政府公务员？不就是要加税吗？结果不正确，理由“正确”有用吗？
在加州的私人监狱当然可以运营。宪法保护的私有经济你民主党想禁还有的等了，等白灯
当选后再说吧。
歪楼不是这么干的。我说的是加州立法禁止私人监狱和加州有business, 被你变成加州立法禁止私人监狱运营。厉害91
你加州不再提供business,私人监狱还有联邦的contract 呢。你们是想赶尽杀绝，不好弄啊，你们还是祈祷白痴灯当选吧，这样还有希望。
【 在 Ignius (Hyperion) 的大作中提到: 】
: 我只不过指出你的错误。你说加州立法禁止使用私人监狱，我告诉你你搞错了，私人监
: 狱在加州仍然可以使用。仅此而已。不知道你扯东扯西的吗这么多字干啥. 承认你错了
: 这么难吗？
: 民主党人，以你们的标准结果是大大地好。
: 爹，你们民主党还会要求把狱警当公务员。不就是要盖新的政府监狱吗？不就是要增加
: 更多的政府公务员？不就是要加税吗？结果不正确，理由“正确”有用吗？
还有说道扯东扯西，谁开始的？You
你英文好，那给解释解释为啥不能把加州监狱overflowed 的犯人transfer 去私人监狱？为啥要建设新的公立监狱？
你见过任何一个business 政府比私人做的好的吗？
【 在 Ignius (Hyperion) 的大作中提到: 】
: 我只不过指出你的错误。你说加州立法禁止使用私人监狱，我告诉你你搞错了，私人监
: 狱在加州仍然可以使用。仅此而已。不知道你扯东扯西的吗这么多字干啥. 承认你错了
: 这么难吗？
: 民主党人，以你们的标准结果是大大地好。
: 爹，你们民主党还会要求把狱警当公务员。不就是要盖新的政府监狱吗？不就是要增加
: 更多的政府公务员？不就是要加税吗？结果不正确，理由“正确”有用吗？
这是你的原话：
“最正确的解决方案是把轻罪犯人转给私人监狱。你看看加州是如何解决的：不但提高定罪标准，而且立法禁止私人监狱。”
既然私人监狱可以继续在加州运营，轻罪犯人还是可以转给私人监狱。你这不是自己打脸吗？
【 在 ebios (火焰山) 的大作中提到: 】
: 加州的私人监狱当然可以运营。宪法保护的私有经济你民主党想禁还有的等了，等白灯当选后再说吧。
: 歪楼不是这么干的。我说的是加州立法禁止私人监狱和加州有business, 被你变成加州立法禁止私人监狱运营。厉害91
: 你加州不再提供business,私人监狱还有联邦的contract 呢。你们是想赶尽杀绝，不好弄啊，你们还是祈祷白痴灯当选吧，这样还有希望。
很简单，还是不够用。加州当初为了服从高院的判决，都已经使用out of state
private prison了。
In order to comply with the Supreme Court order in Brown v. Plata,
California’s Realignment efforts involved dispatching around 9000 inmates
far away, to be housed in private facilities in Arizona, Michigan,
Mississippi, Oklahoma and Tennessee.
【 在 ebios (火焰山) 的大作中提到: 】
: 还有说道扯东扯西，谁开始的？You
: 你英文好，那给解释解释为啥不能把加州监狱overflowed 的犯人transfer 去私人监狱？为啥要建设新的公立监狱？
: 你见过任何一个business 政府比私人做的好的吗？
我在#98贴说的不够严谨，但我在#100已经更正了。终于知道fake news 是咋来的了。
【 在 Ignius (Hyperion) 的大作中提到: 】
: 这是你的原话：
: “最正确的解决方案是把轻罪犯人转给私人监狱。你看看加州是如何解决的：不但提高
: 定罪标准，而且立法禁止私人监狱。”
: 既然私人监狱可以继续在加州运营，轻罪犯人还是可以转给私人监狱。你这不是自己打
: 脸吗？
: 灯当选后再说吧。
: 州立法禁止私人监狱运营。厉害91
: 好弄啊，你们还是祈祷白痴灯当选吧，这样还有希望。
你也说了是当初，那现在呢？
【 在 Ignius (Hyperion) 的大作中提到: 】
: 很简单，还是不够用。加州当初为了服从高院的判决，都已经使用out of state
: private prison了。
: In order to comply with the Supreme Court order in Brown v. Plata,
: California’s Realignment efforts involved dispatching around 9000 inmates: far away, to be housed in private facilities in Arizona, Michigan,
: Mississippi, Oklahoma and Tennessee.
: 狱？为啥要建设新的公立监狱？
现在私人监狱照常使用呀。加州这个ab32主要是针对federal ICE 的对非移的
detention center。所以里边加了loophole，让加州政府自己可以继续使用私人监狱。
这个解释的比较清楚，你自己看看吧，特别是最后两段。
The state legislature responded with Assembly Bill 32, which passed, was
signed by Newsom and went into effect in January 2020, banning California
from entering into any new contracts with private prison companies and
beginning a countdown to end all such contracts in the state by 2028.
Florida-based private prison operator GEO Group, Inc., the nation’s largest for-profit prison firm with $2.33 billion in 2018 gross revenue, signed new contracts in December 2019 – just before the law took effect – with the
federal Bureau of Prisons (BOP) for two facilities the company operates in
California.
GEO also signed a new contract the same month with the U.S. Marshals Service for its 512-bed El Centro Service Processing Center until 2028, in addition to a contract already in place to run the 725-bed Western Region Detention Facility in San Diego for the Marshals until 2027.
Further, GEO Group has pushed back against any application of AB32 that
includes the federal detention centers it operates in the state.
“In particular, we believe the restrictions to force a phase-out of federal detention facilities under private management run afoul of the U.S.
Constitution’s Supremacy Clause,” the firm stated. “States cannot
lawfully pass legislation mandating the closure of federal facilities that
displease them on the basis of ideological differences.”
While the law targets the private companies operating detention centers and not the federal government itself, that distinction will have to be resolved in court.
Both GEO Group and its main competitor, Tennessee-based CoreCivic, with $1.
733 billion in 2018 revenue, have numerous ways to continue operating in
California under one of the new law’s several loopholes. As one glaring
example, the law allows a private prison to remain in business if it
provides “educational, vocational, medical, or other ancillary services to an inmate in the custody of, and under the direct supervision of, the
Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation [CDCR] or a county sheriff or
other law enforcement agency.”
The CDCR may also continue to lease privately-owned prisons so long as the
state operates them – as is the case with CoreCivic’s California City
Correctional Center. And the state can exempt itself from the law’s
provisions if it deems a private prison contract necessary “to comply with the requirements of any court-ordered population cap.” California is
currently under a federal court order to reduce its overall prison
population to no more than 137.5 percent of the combined design capacity of its facilities.
这楼里争论的是当初怎么解决加州监狱overcrowded的问题。高院下命令给加州监狱的
population设了cap，所以加州政府才会想尽办法来去服从高院命令。包括把轻犯转到
私人监狱，甚至out of state的私人监狱。但是这些都不够用，所以才会有prop 47的
出现。你们骂主党傻逼没问题，我也觉得他们傻逼。但是这些批评要建立在事实上，而不是编造的谎言，或者是你的误解。否则就是帮倒忙。
【 在 ebios (火焰山) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你也说了是当初，那现在呢？