you may need to read the terms and conditions. if it says they will only pay after they get commission, it is legal that they don't pay you.
i don't think we can force them to pay us if they do not get commission. they can also forfeit their commission for whatever reason, and under that situation, it is legal for them not to pay you, b/c they gets no commission.
【 在 gomakeitreal (benben) 的大作中提到: 】 you may need to read the terms and conditions. if it says they will only pay after they get commission, it is legal that : they don't pay you. i don't think we can force them to pay us if they do not get commission. they can also forfeit their commission for whatever reason, and under that situation, it is legal for them not to pay you, b/c they gets no commission.
“The determination of whether or not a purchase made through an Ebates Affiliate Store qualifies for Cash Back is at the sole discretion of Ebates. If an Affiliate Store fails to report a transaction to Ebates or withholds payment to Ebates for any reason, Ebates reserves the right to cancel the Cash Back associated with that transaction. If Ebates has any reason to suspect fraudulent activity is associated with your account, Ebates reserves the right to delay or withhold payment of Cash Back.”
Ebates 鸡贼的地方在于:“Should you disagree with any adjustments made to your account or payments made to you, your sole remedy is to withdraw from the Program“..."Member agrees to indemnify and hold Ebates, harmless from any claim or demand, including reasonable attorney's fees, made by any party due to or arising out of Member's use of the Program"
【 在 xiaoerlang (小二郎) 的大作中提到: 】 谢谢回复。 但是我下单的完全符合拿cashback的条件。而且之前都好好的,就这一批基本上都黑掉。我觉得他们说的没有拿到commission的理由完全只是为了应付一下。他们怎么证明他们真的没有收到commission额? 【 在 gomakeitreal (benben) 的大作中提到: 】 you may need to read the terms and conditions. if it says they will only pay after they get commission, it is legal that : they don't pay you. i don't think we can force them to pay us if they do not get commission. they can also forfeit their commission for whatever reason, and under that situation, it is legal for them not to pay you, b/c they gets no commission.
ebate is pretty big. they don't need to lie. could be the operation side with the vendor ran into issue that data is not passed back correctly, or data missed, or whatever IT issue or the vendor agreement issue, which may have nothing to do with you.
i don't think they are obligated to explain to you why they did not get commission, even if you call them. -- it could be some even machine learning model that decides you are reseller. they don't need to prove it to you. this is not like consumer lending where they are regulated that much and had to explain the denial of credit. it might be totally up to their own interpretation.
of course, if you can get the court to issue subpoena, they probably would. but most people here will not spend the effort.
【 在 Skyriverrr (Skyriv3r) 的大作中提到: 】 再举一个例子,虽然可能没有什么用。。。 Ebates 上对于 Walmart的Special Terms: Cash Back is not available on orders deemed by Walmart to be for reselling purposes. 楼主要想实际解决问题,还是咨询律师吧。继续跟 Ebates 磨,他们估计也不会退让。
【 在 gomakeitreal (benben) 的大作中提到: 】 ebate is pretty big. they don't need to lie. could be the operation side with the vendor ran into issue that data is not passed back correctly, or : data missed, or whatever IT issue or the vendor agreement issue, which may have nothing to do with you. i don't think they are obligated to explain to you why they did not get commission, even if you call them. -- it could be some even machine learning model that decides you are reseller. they don't need to prove it to you. this is not like consumer lending where they are regulated that much and had to explain the denial of credit. it might be totally up to their own interpretation. ...................
结果ebates就说不会给cashback,问理由就说商家没有给commission,明显就是瞎扯淡。之前用了一年多都好好的,就这一批的90%的单都给黑了。
求问怎么解决?现在想的是先等这一期的cashback拿到手后上小额法庭。但是下的单太多会不会给自己引火上身(没有身份)。或者有什么其他方法么?
谢谢!
commission是他们的问题,凭啥不给你。
if it says they will only pay after they get commission, it is legal that
they don't pay you.
i don't think we can force them to pay us if they do not get commission.
they can also forfeit their commission for whatever reason, and under that
situation, it is legal for them not to pay you, b/c they gets no commission.
但是我下单的完全符合拿cashback的条件。而且之前都好好的,就这一批基本上都黑掉。我觉得他们说的没有拿到commission的理由完全只是为了应付一下。他们怎么证明他们真的没有收到commission额?
如果 ebates 真的没从商家那拿回 commission,可能的原因是商家认为你的购买模式
有 Reselling 的嫌疑,所以拒绝 payout。
一个例子,之前有某个英文博客因为 amazon affiliated links 的流量太大,被
amazon 怀疑,然后就没有 payout,并且撤回了该博客的 affiliated links 的资格
那你觉得我应该怎么做呢?谢谢
“The determination of whether or not a purchase made through an Ebates
Affiliate Store qualifies for Cash Back is at the sole discretion of Ebates. If an Affiliate Store fails to report a transaction to Ebates or withholds payment to Ebates for any reason, Ebates reserves the right to cancel the
Cash Back associated with that transaction. If Ebates has any reason to
suspect fraudulent activity is associated with your account, Ebates reserves the right to delay or withhold payment of Cash Back.”
是不是可以进一步问Ebates,商家是以什么理由不付 commission。当然这是假设
Ebates 不是故意赖账。
Ebates 鸡贼的地方在于:“Should you disagree with any adjustments made to
your account or payments made to you, your sole remedy is to withdraw from
the Program“..."Member agrees to indemnify and hold Ebates, harmless from
any claim or demand, including reasonable attorney's fees, made by any party due to or arising out of Member's use of the Program"
但是呢,Ebates 的这种免责声明在法庭上是不是站得住脚,楼主还是咨询一下专业人
士比较保险。
一年多少 就算resell
with the vendor ran into issue that data is not passed back correctly, or
data missed, or whatever IT issue or the vendor agreement issue, which may
have nothing to do with you.
i don't think they are obligated to explain to you why they did not get
commission, even if you call them. -- it could be some even machine
learning model that decides you are reseller. they don't need to prove it to you. this is not like consumer lending where they are regulated that much
and had to explain the denial of credit. it might be totally up to their own interpretation.
of course, if you can get the court to issue subpoena, they probably would. but most people here will not spend the effort.
我每三个月也就10——50左右
我自己都懒的查,总是某一天收到paypal通知说恭喜你,ebates给你送钱了,呵呵
Ebates 上对于 Walmart的Special Terms: Cash Back is not available on orders
deemed by Walmart to be for reselling purposes.
楼主要想实际解决问题,还是咨询律师吧。继续跟 Ebates 磨,他们估计也不会退让。
我下的是kohl's,感觉ebates对这个不管,因为很久之前他们问过我是不是reselling
,也没任何问题