刚才那几个使劲和我争说法院不能看EO语言背后的intention的,法庭结论出来了,法 院说: Kleindienst v. Mandel, 408 U.S. 753 (1972), does not compel a different conclusion. The Government cites Mandel for the proposition that “‘when the Executive exercises’ immigration authority ‘on the basis of a facially legitimate and bona fide reason, the courts will [not] look behind the exercise of that discretion.’”
看的明白吗?刚才几个说法院只能看EO本身的睁眼看看啊,EO 表面的facially legitimate and bona fide reason 法院根本不吃这套。
【 在 fanyiding (凡一丁) 的大作中提到: 】 刚才那几个使劲和我争说法院不能看EO语言背后的intention的,法庭结论出来了,法 院说: Kleindienst v. Mandel, 408 U.S. 753 (1972), does not compel a different conclusion. The Government cites Mandel for the proposition that “‘when the Executive exercises’ immigration authority ‘on the basis of a facially legitimate and bona fide reason, the courts will [not] look behind the exercise of that discretion.’” 看的明白吗?刚才几个说法院只能看EO本身的睁眼看看啊,EO 表面的facially legitimate and bona fide reason 法院根本不吃这套。
【 在 fanyiding (凡一丁) 的大作中提到: 】 刚才那几个使劲和我争说法院不能看EO语言背后的intention的,法庭结论出来了,法 院说: Kleindienst v. Mandel, 408 U.S. 753 (1972), does not compel a different conclusion. The Government cites Mandel for the proposition that “‘when the Executive exercises’ immigration authority ‘on the basis of a facially legitimate and bona fide reason, the courts will [not] look behind the exercise of that discretion.’” 看的明白吗?刚才几个说法院只能看EO本身的睁眼看看啊,EO 表面的facially legitimate and bona fide reason 法院根本不吃这套。
【 在 fanyiding (凡一丁) 的大作中提到: 】 刚才那几个使劲和我争说法院不能看EO语言背后的intention的,法庭结论出来了,法 院说: Kleindienst v. Mandel, 408 U.S. 753 (1972), does not compel a different conclusion. The Government cites Mandel for the proposition that “‘when the Executive exercises’ immigration authority ‘on the basis of a facially legitimate and bona fide reason, the courts will [not] look behind the exercise of that discretion.’” 看的明白吗?刚才几个说法院只能看EO本身的睁眼看看啊,EO 表面的facially legitimate and bona fide reason 法院根本不吃这套。
抽空看了下9th circuit判决,几乎把联邦政府的每个点都否决了。在分析联邦政府有 多大概率会胜诉,讲到legislative intent起的作用。明确地说明只是facially neutral没用,还要看intent。 解释地比我好多了: The States argue that the Executive Order violates the Establishment and Equal Protection Clauses because it was intended to disfavor Muslims. In support of this argument, the States have offered evidence of numerous statements by the President about his intent to implement a “Muslim ban” as well as evidence they claim suggests that the Executive Order was intended to be that ban, including sections 5(b) and 5(e) of the Order. It is well established that evidence of purpose beyond the face of the challenged law may be considered in evaluating Establishment and Equal Protection Clause claims. See, e.g., Church of the Lukumi Babalu Aye, Inc. v. City of Hialeah, 508 U.S. 520, 534 (1993) (“The Free Exercise Clause, like the Establishment Clause, extends beyond facial discrimination. . . . Official action that targets religious conduct for distinctive treatment cannot be shielded by mere compliance with the requirement of facial neutrality.”); Larson, 456 U.S. at 254-55 (holding that a facially neutral statute violated the Establishment Clause in light of legislative history demonstrating an intent to apply regulations only to minority religions); Village of Arlington Heights v. Metro. Housing Dev. Corp., 429 U.S. 252, 266-68 (1977) (explaining that circumstantial evidence of intent, including the historical background of the decision and statements by decisionmakers, may be considered in evaluating whether a governmental action was motivated by a discriminatory purpose).
【 在 fanyiding (凡一丁) 的大作中提到: 】 : 刚才那几个使劲和我争说法院不能看EO语言背后的intention的,法庭结论出来了,法 : 院说: Kleindienst v. Mandel, 408 U.S. 753 (1972), does not compel a : different conclusion. The Government cites Mandel for the proposition that : “‘when the Executive exercises’ immigration authority ‘on the basis of a : facially legitimate and bona fide reason, the courts will [not] look behind : the exercise of that discretion.’” : 看的明白吗?刚才几个说法院只能看EO本身的睁眼看看啊,EO 表面的facially : legitimate and bona fide reason 法院根本不吃这套。
看不懂行文逻辑?这里是法院在说,说政府的律师引了这个案例,政府律师认为这个案例证明法院不能看超过表面的语言,但是我们认为这个案例并不能证明这一点 : Kleindienst v. Mandel, 408 U.S. 753 (1972), does not compel a different conclusion.
【 在 epithendi () 的大作中提到: 】 : 抽空看了下9th circuit判决,几乎把联邦政府的每个点都否决了。在分析联邦政府有 : 多大概率会胜诉,讲到legislative : intent起的作用。明确地说明只是facially neutral没用,还要看intent。 : 解释地比我好多了: : The States argue that the Executive Order violates the Establishment and : Equal Protection Clauses because it was intended to disfavor Muslims. In : support of this argument, the States have offered evidence of numerous : statements by the President about his intent to implement a “Muslim ban” : as well as evidence they claim suggests that the Executive Order was : intended to be that ban, including sections 5(b) and 5(e) of the Order. It : ...................
intent ban muslims 结果只ban了15%? 这个是完全只采纳state的所谓证据而忽略了fed的证据。 而且trump自己在当选前已经把暂时禁令的范围缩小了,Muslim ban不过是通俗的叫法 而已。
【 在 epithendi () 的大作中提到: 】 : 抽空看了下9th circuit判决,几乎把联邦政府的每个点都否决了。在分析联邦政府有 : 多大概率会胜诉,讲到legislative : intent起的作用。明确地说明只是facially neutral没用,还要看intent。 : 解释地比我好多了: : The States argue that the Executive Order violates the Establishment and : Equal Protection Clauses because it was intended to disfavor Muslims. In : support of this argument, the States have offered evidence of numerous : statements by the President about his intent to implement a “Muslim ban” : as well as evidence they claim suggests that the Executive Order was : intended to be that ban, including sections 5(b) and 5(e) of the Order. It : ...................
8 U.S. Code § 1182 - Inadmissible aliens ... (f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President
Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.
院说: Kleindienst v. Mandel, 408 U.S. 753 (1972), does not compel a
different conclusion. The Government cites Mandel for the proposition that
“‘when the Executive exercises’ immigration authority ‘on the basis of a facially legitimate and bona fide reason, the courts will [not] look behind the exercise of that discretion.’”
看的明白吗?刚才几个说法院只能看EO本身的睁眼看看啊,EO 表面的facially
legitimate and bona fide reason 法院根本不吃这套。
你不让一个穆斯林入境,那么毫无争议的他是穆斯林,在研究你不让他入境的理由的时候需要考虑intention
问题是这个EO没说不让穆斯林入境,说的是不让支持恐怖分子的国家的人入境
左逼的阅读能力都严重不足
院都没判,他为什么要判?他们要决定的只是是否需要推翻下级法院禁令。他们只要觉得联邦政府有可能输,并且禁令没对政府造成irreparable harm就可以了。
你眼前你也看不懂,还口口声声让人出示案例,对牛弹琴也强过给你谈案例。
这种鬼地方联邦法都不要,维护违法移民,再下作也是可以理解的。
司法系统玩PC,也算是奇葩了。难怪警察被处决也没人管。
多大概率会胜诉,讲到legislative
intent起的作用。明确地说明只是facially neutral没用,还要看intent。
解释地比我好多了:
The States argue that the Executive Order violates the Establishment and
Equal Protection Clauses because it was intended to disfavor Muslims. In
support of this argument, the States have offered evidence of numerous
statements by the President about his intent to implement a “Muslim ban”
as well as evidence they claim suggests that the Executive Order was
intended to be that ban, including sections 5(b) and 5(e) of the Order. It
is well established that evidence of purpose beyond the face of the
challenged law may be considered in evaluating Establishment and Equal
Protection Clause claims. See, e.g., Church of the Lukumi Babalu Aye,
Inc. v. City of Hialeah, 508 U.S. 520, 534 (1993) (“The Free Exercise
Clause, like the Establishment Clause, extends beyond facial discrimination. . . . Official action that targets religious conduct for distinctive
treatment cannot be shielded by mere compliance with the requirement of
facial neutrality.”); Larson, 456 U.S. at 254-55 (holding that a facially
neutral statute violated the Establishment Clause in light of legislative
history demonstrating an intent to apply regulations only to minority
religions); Village of Arlington Heights v. Metro. Housing Dev. Corp., 429 U.S. 252, 266-68 (1977) (explaining that circumstantial evidence of intent,
including the historical background of the decision and statements by
decisionmakers, may be considered in evaluating whether a governmental
action was motivated by a discriminatory purpose).
【 在 insect9 (insect9) 的大作中提到: 】
: 觉得会输?这是判决的理由?
【 在 fanyiding (凡一丁) 的大作中提到: 】
: 刚才那几个使劲和我争说法院不能看EO语言背后的intention的,法庭结论出来了,法
: 院说: Kleindienst v. Mandel, 408 U.S. 753 (1972), does not compel a
: different conclusion. The Government cites Mandel for the proposition that
: “‘when the Executive exercises’ immigration authority ‘on the basis of a
: facially legitimate and bona fide reason, the courts will [not] look
behind
: the exercise of that discretion.’”
: 看的明白吗?刚才几个说法院只能看EO本身的睁眼看看啊,EO 表面的facially
: legitimate and bona fide reason 法院根本不吃这套。
【 在 bundchen (艾买提•邦辰) 的大作中提到: 】
: 方括号里的not是神马意思?有和没有表达的是正好相反的意思,区别大了。
: a
: behind
【 在 fanyiding (凡一丁) 的大作中提到: 】
: 括号就是不是原文,但是加上才正确表达原文的意思或者符合语法规则。这个否定的意
: 义体现在在其他没括到的部分,比如从句里。
Kleindienst v. Mandel, 408 U.S. 753 (1972), does not compel a different
conclusion.
【 在 bundchen (艾买提•邦辰) 的大作中提到: 】
: 那是说法院不会看动机intent了?
就算非要quote川普讲话也是ban isis,作弊法官都能造谣出ban和平教,真的是把人民当傻子呀
话说作弊票蛆的确傻,对主流媒体言听计从
【 在 epithendi () 的大作中提到: 】
: 抽空看了下9th circuit判决,几乎把联邦政府的每个点都否决了。在分析联邦政府有
: 多大概率会胜诉,讲到legislative
: intent起的作用。明确地说明只是facially neutral没用,还要看intent。
: 解释地比我好多了:
: The States argue that the Executive Order violates the Establishment and
: Equal Protection Clauses because it was intended to disfavor Muslims. In
: support of this argument, the States have offered evidence of numerous
: statements by the President about his intent to implement a “Muslim ban”
: as well as evidence they claim suggests that the Executive Order was
: intended to be that ban, including sections 5(b) and 5(e) of the Order. It
: ...................
这个是完全只采纳state的所谓证据而忽略了fed的证据。
而且trump自己在当选前已经把暂时禁令的范围缩小了,Muslim ban不过是通俗的叫法
而已。
【 在 epithendi () 的大作中提到: 】
: 抽空看了下9th circuit判决,几乎把联邦政府的每个点都否决了。在分析联邦政府有
: 多大概率会胜诉,讲到legislative
: intent起的作用。明确地说明只是facially neutral没用,还要看intent。
: 解释地比我好多了:
: The States argue that the Executive Order violates the Establishment and
: Equal Protection Clauses because it was intended to disfavor Muslims. In
: support of this argument, the States have offered evidence of numerous
: statements by the President about his intent to implement a “Muslim ban”
: as well as evidence they claim suggests that the Executive Order was
: intended to be that ban, including sections 5(b) and 5(e) of the Order. It
: ...................
犯罪的被打击,如果是妇女那是歧视妇女,如果是黑人那是歧视黑人,如果是非法移民那是歧视移民。。。
CTNND,so called作弊法官不管合法公民安全法制,越权阻止民选总统只能,这种歧视合法公民权益渎职越权的so called作弊法官政客应该直接下台
创普EO完全合法!!!
8 U.S. Code § 1182 - Inadmissible aliens
...
(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President
Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as
immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any
restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.