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Politics NPR interviews a white supremacist Bob CollinsBob Collins November 17, 2016, 5:04 PM 0 LISTEN ‘We’re Not Going Away’: Alt-Right Leader On Voice In Trump Administration November 17, 2016 We can pretty well guess what NPR ombudsman Elizabeth Jensen‘s next column is going to be about. It’s going to be about whether NPR should have given seven minutes of national radio time on Thursday evening to Richard Spencer, a white nationalist who coined the term “alt-right”.
That the term, which many believe is meant to be a nicer term than racist, is getting more use in the media, shows the impact Spencer already has had on the national landscape.
Spencer isn’t shy about sharing his vision: a white ethno-state, a “safe space for Europeans,” he says.
“Should only white Europeans be considered U.S. citizens?” host Kelly McEvers asked.
“The citizenship… is not something that can be changed,” Spencer said, before adding “right away.”
Spencer says different races and ethnicities simply cannot get along.
“Do we really like each other? Do we really love each other? Do we really have a sense of community on that subway car…”
“Or a cul-de-sac, or a kindergarten,” McEvers interjected.
“Whenever different races are in the same school, there’ll be a natural segregation at lunchtime, at PE, in terms of after-school play,” he responded.
Spencer said a friendlier relationship with Russia would foster his goals, and he insisted that illegal immigration isn’t “nearly as damaging as legal immigration.”
“With legal immigration, they’re here to stay,” he said. “I think a reasonable and palatable policy proposal would be for Donald Trump to say, ‘Look, we’ve had immigration in the past, it’s brought some fragmentation, but we need to become a people again, and for us to do that, we’re going to need a break from mass immigration. We’re going to need to preference people who are going to fit in, who are more like us, that is European immigration.”
McEvers read a list of items, asking Spencer if he thought they were OK or not OK.
“Graffiti saying ‘Make America White Again‘?” she started.
“Graffiti is illegal,” Spencer responded.
Pushed by McEvers, Spencer said he “doesn’t have a huge problem with that.”
“Swastikas?”
“It’s an ancient symbol,” Spencer said. “If you’re asking me do I have a problem with people expressing themselves, they could do whatever they want.”
“Wearing white robes or hoods?”
Spencer pushed back, saying “you haven’t given me anything that is either fundamentally illegal or immoral. I’m not going to condemn any of that.”
Republicans?
“Not a fan,” Spencer said, acknowledging he likes Republican voters. “In terms of operatives, in terms of the conservative movement, not a fan.”
Spencer says he’s not been in contact with the incoming administration, though he thinks he can have influence on coming policies.
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NPR interviews a white supremacist
Bob CollinsBob Collins November 17, 2016, 5:04 PM 0
LISTEN ‘We’re Not Going Away’: Alt-Right Leader On Voice In Trump
Administration
November 17, 2016
We can pretty well guess what NPR ombudsman Elizabeth Jensen‘s next column is going to be about. It’s going to be about whether NPR should have given seven minutes of national radio time on Thursday evening to Richard Spencer, a white nationalist who coined the term “alt-right”.
That the term, which many believe is meant to be a nicer term than racist,
is getting more use in the media, shows the impact Spencer already has had
on the national landscape.
Spencer isn’t shy about sharing his vision: a white ethno-state, a “safe
space for Europeans,” he says.
“Should only white Europeans be considered U.S. citizens?” host Kelly
McEvers asked.
“The citizenship… is not something that can be changed,” Spencer said,
before adding “right away.”
Spencer says different races and ethnicities simply cannot get along.
“Do we really like each other? Do we really love each other? Do we really
have a sense of community on that subway car…”
“Or a cul-de-sac, or a kindergarten,” McEvers interjected.
“Whenever different races are in the same school, there’ll be a natural
segregation at lunchtime, at PE, in terms of after-school play,” he
responded.
Spencer said a friendlier relationship with Russia would foster his goals,
and he insisted that illegal immigration isn’t “nearly as damaging as
legal immigration.”
“With legal immigration, they’re here to stay,” he said. “I think a
reasonable and palatable policy proposal would be for Donald Trump to say,
‘Look, we’ve had immigration in the past, it’s brought some fragmentation, but we need to become a people again, and for us to do that, we’re going to need a break from mass immigration. We’re going to need to preference
people who are going to fit in, who are more like us, that is European
immigration.”
McEvers read a list of items, asking Spencer if he thought they were OK or
not OK.
“Graffiti saying ‘Make America White Again‘?” she started.
“Graffiti is illegal,” Spencer responded.
Pushed by McEvers, Spencer said he “doesn’t have a huge problem with that.”
“Swastikas?”
“It’s an ancient symbol,” Spencer said. “If you’re asking me do I have a problem with people expressing themselves, they could do whatever they
want.”
“Wearing white robes or hoods?”
Spencer pushed back, saying “you haven’t given me anything that is either fundamentally illegal or immoral. I’m not going to condemn any of that.”
Republicans?
“Not a fan,” Spencer said, acknowledging he likes Republican voters. “In terms of operatives, in terms of the conservative movement, not a fan.”
Spencer says he’s not been in contact with the incoming administration,
though he thinks he can have influence on coming policies.
的长相。我很喜欢他的长相，但是我不太喜欢他的人品和行为方式。
附上阁下的原话“几千万的白左说创普像个猩猩，还都个个趾高气扬，觉得自己特幽默特有正义感。“
另外我不喜欢希拉里 overpolished 的演讲，和这个撒谎成性的女人的品行，也不喜欢建制派搞的政治文宣。我这些说的少，只是没有去希拉里粉丝版面。
甚至没有左右派的羁绊，一切以事实真理为基准，从善如流。
用事实说话，免得你总当众手淫。
所以和你说的正好相反，我只顾实事和事实，你就是激情澎湃到天上，你就是悲怆煽情到地上，我注意的是往往是你眼角不会演戏的那几块表情肌肉，和你政治文宣背后冰冷的事实和数据。
门卫的儿子的故事，是tom barrack 当着几千万电视观众的面讲出来的，你可以选择不信，我选择相信。
我选择相信的原因很简单：
1 barrack 讲得很诚恳，他也不算是“狂热”的川普追随者，他甚至开头就声明他不
会批评希拉里（那次共和党大会的发言者大多数都批评了希拉里）。
2 主流媒体会在任何一件小事上攻击创普，如果这件事是假的，主流媒体有极大的可
能性会拿这件事来攻击创普。你如果能找出媒体证据证明这事是假的，请指出来，如果证据可信程度比较高，我删文，向你道歉，并奉送100美元给你买酒喝。当然，如果你
找不出证据，仅仅因为你不喜欢这个故事，仅仅因为你选择不相信，而攻击我是“中国政治学习的流毒，崇拜红太阳”，请向我道歉。
3 创普有帮助其他小人物的历史，这跟门卫儿子的故事，相切合。
这些是我选择相信这个故事的理由，我认为创普是个善良的人，认为创普是个善良的人，不成为狂热崇拜创普的证据。
我从来没有说过老爷子，床爷。我只说过床总。
不过既然你提出指控，我觉得有责任替队友辩护。
1 老爷子，创普 70岁的人，我们这些30，40岁的人叫他老爷子，很正常，把这当作狂
热崇拜的证据，是欲加之罪何患无辞。
2 床爷，同样，北方人对年纪大的尊称。
3 床总，床铺总统的意思，100%的调侃，我还用希总称呼过希拉里。如果连这都能成为狂热崇拜的证据，只能说，你的政治弦绷得实在是太紧了，非黑即白，非此即彼。
这么小小的一件事情，你居然还要去看看白人是什么样的反应？你是怎么养成这种习惯的？
我是政治文宣？
politico 的大记者 Glenn Thrush 亲口跟希拉里的大总管说，自己是 hack, 随时听命调遣
http://www.breitbart.com/wikileaks/2016/10/17/rigged-media-politicos-chief-political-correspondent-glenn-thrush-identifies-himself-as-hack-for-podesta/
这样的例子很多很多很多，
这些人比我这个“中国政治流毒”更像政治文宣，都是正儿八经的记者，成千上万的读者。
你不去揪这些人，为啥对我这个中国屁民这么凶狠呢？
是因为洋大人的待遇不同吗？
希拉里女士，奥巴马，布什都一定可以找出类似的事情来。
你如果了解过太多政治文宣的实践，你会明白我在说什么：当年日本人最有名的一张照片，是日本军队给中国农村的孩子们发糖，孩子们笑着抢着吃。你也许会说这个是摆拍，那么我还听老人说过，以前日本军队在田间练习射击，正好有村民路过，他们立刻站起来客气地让他们走过再开枪。
他们在买买提有文章吗 ？ 有的话，我一定去捣乱。
我曾经给纽约时报写过文章，指责他们的报道，石沉大海
这个美新版的川粉，一部分表现得很粗鲁简单（朴素，率真），另一部分，不一定就是你，模仿着各种政治文宣方式，我很反感。
所以，你永远不败啊
它们比我们这些土包子偏颇得多，更应该成为你批评的对象。
比如，
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/north-park-harassment-trump-note-401408916.html
这是一起伪造的仇恨犯罪，是为了抹黑创普支持者。
这种事情比起我这个屁民，要严重得多。
您这么有正义感，只顾事实，讨厌文宣的，
请发一篇文批判左派伪造仇恨犯罪的丑恶现象好不好？
如果您这样客观的人多起来，也许我会觉得我都没有写东西的必要了，大家都明白是非，哪里还需要业余网络文宣呢？
停止训练，是个事实，而这几个日本兵也许真是善良人，但是如果被日本皇军宣传队知道后，把这个拿出来到处宣讲，呵呵呵呵，这个就是政治文宣，大忽悠。
你听人讲了川普和门卫怎么回事儿， 你能知道川普和门卫到底怎么回事儿 ？
如果去了，看了我不喜欢的文章，又有我发言的机会，我自然可能去发言。
我这些年还是跟着新闻去不少英文网站发过言，吵过架的。但是我有自己的工作，家庭，没有精力到处去和人争执笔战。今年我到美国新闻版来多了，军事版就很少去了，过去曾经大闹的中国新闻版就几乎不去了 。。。。一个买买提况且如此，我哪有很多时
间去到处管闲事 ？
这个例子有很多争论吗（如果事实已经出来，证明事主伪造) ? 我有什么目的去哪里发言 ?
希拉里,或者反 Trump 的人里,当然有热衷蛊惑人心的文宣出来,这个都是职业的,专业
的,在我这里没有什么值得奇怪的. 仔细听希拉里在辩论中对攻击点,以及闪避点的把握,以及衔接,等等, 都充斥着政治文宣的典型模式. Trump 也一样,只是稍显生硬, 对这
个领域业务还不熟练( 在商业界他早就老道了) .
汪得慢你骗谁啊，我的天。来来来，和我一起发誓，没在英语论坛上发帖十次以上死全家。
politico 是个独立媒体，不是希拉里竞选班子，politico 的大记者跟希拉里竞选主席背地里勾结，这个不是希拉里的文宣，是腐败。
你把这么腐败透顶的事情叫做文宣，轻飘飘一笔带过。
却对我这个中国屁民的网文罗织罪名，严加斥责。
像你这样把“goal post" 背在身上，随时随地双重标准，确实永远不败。