请教Dallas高中学区

m
mimimi
楼主 (未名空间)

我们住德州小town,请教孩子去Dallas及周围地区上好一点的高中的可行性。只能负担30万的房子,住的偏的话,好高中可以通过考试进去吗?还是必须住在好高中的学区房里。我们城市中国孩子可以跨区进入唯一的好一点的高中。不用考试。
谢谢先。

w
wademay1314

如果你是public的学校都是按地区分配的,私校就可以考而且需要很多钱。你心目中好的高中是多少分?我们可以加微信聊一聊!
K
Kindle3

中国人认为的好学区的房子30万不够。上高中按区分配。

达拉斯有个高中经常全美排第一,磁校,需要考试,而且不知道是否需要推荐,必须住在达拉斯市内。达拉斯安全的区,30万的房子也不多。

【 在 mimimi (fluid) 的大作中提到: 】
: 我们住德州小town,请教孩子去Dallas及周围地区上好一点的高中的可行性。只能负担
: 30万的房子,住的偏的话,好高中可以通过考试进去吗?还是必须住在好高中的学区房
: 里。我们城市中国孩子可以跨区进入唯一的好一点的高中。不用考试。
: 谢谢先。

n
niu9898

westlake ISD 户均财产近亿 193户,学校好师资强,周围城镇小孩可申请

southlake(Carroll ISD) 平均房价95万 全美橄榄球冠军高中。富贵子弟较多 (白区)

GCISD(GHS/CHHS) 平均房价70/30万.师资强,CHHS周围城镇小孩可申请 (白区)

z
zhiyelee

公立学校 southlake学区和highland park 很好 不过30w的房子应该没有
c
cusystem

plano的三个high schools都不错,30万可以

【 在 mimimi (fluid) 的大作中提到: 】
: 我们住德州小town,请教孩子去Dallas及周围地区上好一点的高中的可行性。只能负担
: 30万的房子,住的偏的话,好高中可以通过考试进去吗?还是必须住在好高中的学区房
: 里。我们城市中国孩子可以跨区进入唯一的好一点的高中。不用考试。
: 谢谢先。

s
stores

请问plano的3个好的high schools是哪三个? 为什么usnews都排不上名?

【 在 cusystem (see you) 的大作中提到: 】
: plano的三个high schools都不错,30万可以

g
gogo2004


【 在 zhiyelee (zhiyelee) 的大作中提到: 】
: 公立学校 southlake学区和highland park 很好 不过30w的房子应该没有

Chabad-Lubavitch Centers in "Southlake, Texas"
https://www.chabad.org/centers/default_cdo/city/Southlake/state/Texas/
country/USA/zip/76092/jewish/Chabad-Centers-and-Synagogue-Directory.htm

g
gogo2004


【 在 stores (stores) 的大作中提到: 】
: 请问plano的3个好的high schools是哪三个? 为什么usnews都排不上名?

PLANO WEST SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL
PLANO, TX

PLANO SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL
PLANO, TX

PLANO EAST SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL
PLANO, TX
https://www.polarislist.com/best-public-high-schools-in-texas

g
gogo2004


【 在 gogo2004 (挑灯看剑) 的大作中提到: 】
: PLANO WEST SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL
: PLANO, TX
: PLANO SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL
: PLANO, TX
: PLANO EAST SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL
: PLANO, TX
: https://www.polarislist.com/best-public-high-schools-in-texas

Plano West Senior High School is a public high school in Plano, Texas
serving high school juniors and seniors. The school is part of the Plano
Independent School District, and enrolls students based on the locations of students' homes. Students at Plano West attended one of two high schools:
Jasper or Shepton. Wikipedia
Address: 5601 W Parker Rd, Plano, TX 75093

Congregation Anshai Torah (Conservative)
5501 W. Parker Rd., Plano, TX 75093
972-473-7718
972-473-7714 (f)

-------------

Plano Senior High School is a public secondary school in Plano, Texas,
serving students in grades 11–12. The school is part of the Plano
Independent School District, with admission based primarily on the locations of students' homes. Plano is a two-time Blue Ribbon School and a Texas
Exemplary School. Wikipedia
Address: 2200 Independence Pkwy, Plano, TX 75075

Chabad of Plano / Collin Countyhttps://www.chabadplano.org
Chabad of Plano/Collin County is your "Home for Jewish Life and Learning" in the northern suburbs of Dallas. Find out about ... Plano, TX 75075. Light
Holiday ...

------------

Plano East Senior High School is a secondary school in Plano, Texas serving high school juniors and seniors, as well as freshmen and sophomores as a
part of the IB World School. It is part of the Plano Independent School
District, and enrolls students based on the locations of students' homes.
Wikipedia
Address: 3000 Los Rios Blvd, Plano, TX 75074

Jewish Community in Garland, TX with Reviews - YP.comhttps://www.yellowpages.com › Garland, TX
96 results - Find 96 listings related to Jewish Community in Garland on YP.
com. ... 2. Dallas Jewish Community Foundation · Clubs · Website ... Plano, TX 75074.

-------------------

老爸托犹太社区房价,看着自己孩子托犹太孩子:

波士顿犹太人, 藤校和 学区
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Boston/31883645.html

n
niu9898

Plano学区 一半老中, 一半骆印。 没有黑白,
g
gogo2004


【 在 niu9898 (Jason) 的大作中提到: 】
: Plano学区 一半老中, 一半骆印。 没有黑白,

hello bro

Plano West Senior High School Student Body

Asian27%
Black11%
Hispanic14%
White44%
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/texas/districts/plano-isd/plano-west-senior-high-school-19719/student-body

Plano Sr High School Student Body

Asian17%
Black12%
Hispanic20%
White47%
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/texas/districts/plano-isd/plano-sr-high-school-19712/student-body

Plano East Senior High School

Racial breakdown:

Asian:30.1%
White:28.4%
Hispanic:26.4%
African American:11.8%
Two or more races:3.0%
https://www.schooldigger.com/go/TX/schools/3510005796/school.aspx

g
gogo2004


【 在 niu9898 (Jason) 的大作中提到: 】
: Plano学区 一半老中, 一半骆印。 没有黑白,

..

Plano East Senior High School

Racial breakdown:

Asian:30.1%
White:28.4%
Hispanic:26.4%
African American:11.8%
Two or more races:3.0%
https://www.schooldigger.com/go/TX/schools/3510005796/school.aspx

g
gogo2004


【 在 niu9898 (Jason) 的大作中提到: 】
: Plano学区 一半老中, 一半骆印。 没有黑白,

Plano Sr High School Student Body

Asian17%
Black12%
Hispanic20%
White47%
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/texas/districts/plano-isd/plano-sr-high-school-19712/student-body

g
gogo2004


-------------------

老爸托犹太社区房价,看着自己孩子托犹太孩子:

波士顿犹太人, 藤校和 学区
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Boston/31883645.html

------------

Feb. 11, 2019 - 108 Finalists Named in the 2019 National Merit Scholarship
Program

Plano ISD joins with the National Merit Scholarship Corporation (NMSC) in
recognizing 108 students who have been awarded finalist standing in the 64th Annual National Merit Scholarship Program. B...

So many Chinese kids ....
https://www.pisd.edu/site/Default.aspxPageType=3&DomainID=4&PageID=1&
ViewID=6446ee88-d30c-497e-9316-3f8874b3e108&FlexDataID=62607

g
gogo2004


【 在 gogo2004 (挑灯看剑) 的大作中提到: 】
: -------------------
: 老爸托犹太社区房价,看着自己孩子托犹太孩子:
: 波士顿犹太人, 藤校和 学区
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Boston/31883645.html
: ------------
: Feb. 11, 2019 - 108 Finalists Named in the 2019 National Merit Scholarship
: Program
: Plano ISD joins with the National Merit Scholarship Corporation (NMSC) in : recognizing 108 students who have been awarded finalist standing in the
64th
: Annual National Merit Scholarship Program. B...
: ...................

Plano West Senior High School

Grades 11–12
Enrollment 2,715

60 finalists / 1350 = 4.5% >> 0.5%

g
gogo2004


【 在 gogo2004 (挑灯看剑) 的大作中提到: 】
: 64th
: Plano West Senior High School
: Grades 11–12
: Enrollment 2,715
: 60 finalists / 1350 = 4.5% >> 0.5%

=========================

内地的大学使用每一个省,作为池子 (as a pool), 根据分数线选拔学生.
德克萨斯大学 奥斯汀分校, 使用每一个高中作为池子 (as a pool), 根据百分比选拔
学生.
---------
两者是极端例子.(每一个省作为池子 vs 每一个高中作为池子)
------------
每一个省作为池子, 任何学生可以得到相同的高考分数, 在不同的省, 有不同的录取机会.
每一个高中作为池子, 只使用那个高中的 GPA 指标, 在不同的高中,可以得到不同的
GPA 有不同的录取机会.
--------

我们是否可以说,“同一学生, 在中国,不同的省份,不同的机会”, “在美国,不同的州,不同高中,不同的机会”??

------------------------
絕大多數公立大學選擇公式是保密de.
有人起訴學校, 學校必須在法庭上公開其計算公式.
公立.公立.公立

以前, 有人起訴安娜堡密西根大学, 不得不公開其計算公式:

安娜堡密西根大学当时实施的是一个150点数的录取评价系统:

80 points — GPA
12 points — SAT scores
10 points — Academic strength of high school
8 points — Strength of high school curriculum
-----------------------------------------------
GEOGRAPHY
10 points: Michigan resident
6 points: Underrepresented Michigan county
2 points: Underrepresented state

ALUMNI
4 points: "Legacy" (parents, step-parents)
1 point: Other (grandparents, siblings, spouses)

ESSAY
1 point: Outstanding essay (since 1999, 3 points)

PERSONAL ACHIEVEMENT
5 points: National
3 points: Regional
1 point: State

LEADERSHIP & SERVICE
5 points: National
3 points: Regional
1 point: State

MISCELLANEOUS
20 points: Socio-economic disadvantage
20 points: Underrepresented racial-ethnic minority identification or
education
5 points: Men in nursing
20 points: Scholarship athlete
20 points: Provost’s discretion

A maximum of 40 points and only one option is assigned per category
-------------------------------------
在以上评价系统中,高中的GPA占很大比重(80 points). 而不同的高中(八分或十分)差
别非常小(10 points — Academic strength of high school).

g
gogo2004


有些同胞, 根據他們在中國大陸的經驗, 仍然相信全州按統一標準取士. 像大
陆.

因此,他们引进名牌高中, 学区房的概念. 认为, 从这些名牌高中毕业, 有更
多的机会进入著名大学.

Dallas中国同胞根据高中毕业生去常春藤学校的数量来定义好学区. 最终,他们发现所有那些以
这种方式定义的好学区,都有很多犹太学生。它解释了为什么那些高中有更多毕业生去常春藤. 那些所谓的好学区与中国孩子无关。

私立,, 私立,, 私立

让我们用哈佛 为例, 寻找到真相.

.....

让我们继续上面的例子

(1) 2011年,哈佛录取7名 Northwest Suburban, Chicago, 读书好de学
生 (two from two 5分 HS, one 8分; .....)

One form "Stevenson High School"

(2) 7名读书好de学生, GPA are 4.0, but, look at those ACT/SAT
scores

Test scores: ACT: 33
Test scores: ACT: 34
Test scores: SAT: 2390
Test score: SAT: 2010
Test score: ACT: 35
Test score: ACT: 33
Test scores: ACT: 34; SAT: 2180
------------------

现在,我们可以理解下图

GPA vs. SAT Score ...
http://features.thecrimson.com/2013/frosh-
survey/admissions.html
------------------

如果哈佛录取学生像北大那样, all students would have GPA 4.0, and
SAT very close to 2400/36.

把"Northwest Suburban, Chicago""作为一个例子, 北大, 按統一標準全州
取士, 将招收7名Stevenson High School ACT满分学生. (the "GPA vs.
SAT Score" 图将完全不同)

School: Stevenson High School Hometown: Buffalo Grove (10分)
[ 28 SEMIFINALISTS | 8 perfect ACT examination score ]

--------

-------------------------------------
Tuesday, July 15, 2014
Class of '18: 992 High Schools
----------------
In July, Yale reported that 992 different high schools will send students tobecome members of the Class of '18. At least 57% (or 776 students) will be
the only student in the freshman class from his/her school.

In many cases, the student is the first in many years or the first ever to
attend Yale from that high school. Scattered among the clusters of students
from Exeter, Andover, Horace Mann, Shaker Heights, Choate, and Stuyvesant
are hundreds of students from high schools from inner-city Kansas City, fromthe suburbs of Denver, or from rural areas in Kentucky, many of whom are
the only ones from their schools in New Haven.

The office reports at least 18 schools are sending at least five students toYale this fall. (Three are sending more than 10 each.)
http://www.yalewestchester.blogspot.com/2014/07/class-of-18-992

---------
哈佛:

In the Class of 2017:

74% of schools sent only one student.

http://www.toptieradmissions.com/ivy-league-admissions/

g
gogo2004


【 在 gogo2004 (挑灯看剑) 的大作中提到: 】
: 有些同胞, 根據他們在中國大陸的經驗, 仍然相信全州按統一標準取士. 像大
: 陆.
: 因此,他们引进名牌高中, 学区房的概念. 认为, 从这些名牌高中毕业, 有更
: 多的机会进入著名大学.
: 让我们用哈佛 为例, 寻找到真相.
: .....
: 让我们继续上面的例子
: (1) 2011年,哈佛录取7名 Northwest Suburban, Chicago, 读书好de学
: 生 (two from two 5分 HS, one 8分; .....)
: One form "Stevenson High School"
: ...................

Over 650 high school seniors across North Texas were named as National Merit semifinalists on Wednesday, taking the first step in a scholarship
competition that will award more than $31 million in the spring.

Approximately 16,000 students nationwide were honored as semifinalists,
based on their performance as juniors on the 2017 preliminary SAT (PSAT)
test. The honorees account for less than 1 percent of U.S. high school
seniors.

Texas’ 2019 National Merit Semifinalists
The 21 high schools with the most National Merit semifinalists in Texas
High School Semifinalists School type
UNT Texas Academy of Mathematics and Science 75 Early college
Plano West 62 Traditional ISD
Round Rock Westwood 57 Traditional ISD
Houston St. John's 39 Private
Plano East 35 Traditional ISD
Coppell 33 Traditional ISD
Austin ISD Liberal Arts and Science Academy 32 Selective magnet
St. Mark's 31 Private
Sugar Land Clements 29 Traditional ISD
Austin Westlake 28 Traditional ISD
The Woodlands College Park 27 Traditional ISD
Highland Park 26 Traditional ISD
Katy Seven Lakes 24 Traditional ISD
Flower Mound 22 Traditional ISD
Flower Mound Marcus 21 Traditional ISD
Clear Lake 21 Traditional ISD
Southlake Carroll 21 Traditional ISD
Hockaday 20 Private
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/education/2018/09/12/which-north-texas-high-school-had-the-most-national-merit-semifinalists-see-all-654-honorees-here/

g
gogo2004


【 在 gogo2004 (挑灯看剑) 的大作中提到: 】
: Chabad-Lubavitch Centers in "Southlake, Texas"
: https://www.chabad.org/centers/default_cdo/city/Southlake/state/Texas/
: country/USA/zip/76092/jewish/Chabad-Centers-and-Synagogue-Directory.htm

Southlake Carroll 21 Traditional ISD

Carroll Senior High School is a public secondary school in Southlake, Texas, serving students in grades 11 - 12. The school is part of the Carroll
Independent School District, serving the majority of the city of Southlake, Texas and portions of northwest Grapevine, far northern Colleyville and
eastern Westlake. Wikipedia
Address: 1501 W Southlake Blvd, Southlake, TX 76092
Number of students: 1,381 (2016–2017)
Mascot: Dragon

21 /690 = 3%

CHABAD OF SOUTHLAKE
280 Commerce Street #255Southlake, TX 76092
817-451-1171

--------------------------------
【 在 zhiyelee (zhiyelee) 的大作中提到: 】
: 公立学校 southlake学区和highland park 很好 不过30w的房子应该没有

Highland Park 26 Traditional ISD

2160/4 grade = 540

26 / 540 = 4.8 %

University Park, Dallas, Texas. Nearest Zip Codes: 75275 - Dallas, TX ·
75225 - Dallas, TX · 75205 - Dallas, TX

Congregation Shearith Israel (Conservative)
9401 Douglas Ave, Dallas, TX 75225

Temple Emanu-El (Reform)
8500 Hillcrest, Dallas, TX 75225

g
gogo2004


【 在 mimimi (fluid) 的大作中提到: 】
: 还是必须住在好高中的学区房里。不用考试。
: 谢谢先。

在美国,没有像在中国所谓的"学区房"!!!

所谓的"学区房"--买昂贵的房子,孩子们有更多的机会去顶级大学.在美国,没有这种
学区房.

---------------

在继续写之前,我正在等待有意义的讨论或挑战.

我会写:

所谓的"学区房": 学区和顶级大学(I) 顶级大学录取

所谓的"学区房": 学区和顶级大学(II) 三类所谓的好高中(公立)

所谓的"学区房": 学区和顶级大学(III) 现状和策略

p
phantasima

卧槽,我只能奉上没意义的膜拜了

你说得这几条已经令我受益匪浅,多谢了

看来,将来应该送孩子去个烂区读高中。难怪一个同事(中国人)闺女去烂校读的,后
来轻松UTaustin,在放弃了耶鲁之后。

【 在 gogo2004 (挑灯看剑) 的大作中提到: 】
: 在美国,没有像在中国所谓的"学区房"!!!
: 所谓的"学区房"--买昂贵的房子,孩子们有更多的机会去顶级大学.在美国,没有这种
: 学区房.
: ---------------
: 在继续写之前,我正在等待有意义的讨论或挑战.
: 我会写:
: 所谓的"学区房": 学区和顶级大学(I) 顶级大学录取
: 所谓的"学区房": 学区和顶级大学(II) 三类所谓的好高中(公立)
: 所谓的"学区房": 学区和顶级大学(III) 现状和策略

g
gogo2004


所谓的"学区房"--买昂贵的房子,孩子们有更多的机会去顶级大学.

在美国,没有这种学区房.

"所谓的美国"学区房" (I)顶级大学录取"
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Boston/31888549.html

"所谓的美国"学区房"(II) 三类所谓的好高中(公立)"
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/SanFrancisco/34640913.html

....

"私立真的比公立好很多吗"
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Boston/31888583.html

s
stores

最后的结论是什么?在Dallas的高中学区,应该选Plano吗
g
gogo2004


【 在 stores (stores) 的大作中提到: 】
: 最后的结论是什么?在Dallas的高中学区,应该选Plano吗

haha ...
g
gogo2004


【 在 phantasima (射中面门) 的大作中提到: 】
: 卧槽,我只能奉上没意义的膜拜了
: 你说得这几条已经令我受益匪浅,多谢了
: 看来,将来应该送孩子去个烂区读高中。难怪一个同事(中国人)闺女去烂校读的,后
: 来轻松UTaustin,在放弃了耶鲁之后。

....
麻州 94 美國的"高考洼地”.许多中国人正在搬到波士顿,会在那里买房.
: 他们是明白人. 他们感兴趣的房子不是所谓的"学区房", 不是Newton/Belmont/
: Lexington.
: 他们是聪明人。不会不远万里, 掉进"学区房"洞里.
: ...................
................
发信人: xxxx (zzzz媳妇), 信区: Boston
标 题: 波士顿周边比较好的公立高中
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Feb 16 10:50:15 2020, 美东)

请教各位,孩子准备去波士顿上高中,看了一大圈,还是比较中意hopkinton 的高中和房子,百万以内,房子较新,高中评分不错。有不同建议的请指教。附近有陪读妈妈可以交流一下吗?

Hopkinton High School 2020 Rankings

All Rankings

#190 in National Rankings
#3 in Massachusetts High Schools
#2 in Boston, MA Metro Area High Schools

g
gogo2004


【 在 gogo2004 (挑灯看剑) 的大作中提到: 】
: ....
: 麻州 94 美國的"高考洼地”.许多中国人正在搬到波士顿,会在那里买房.
: ................
: 发信人: xxxx (zzzz媳妇), 信区: Boston
: 标 题: 波士顿周边比较好的公立高中
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Feb 16 10:50:15 2020, 美东)
: 请教各位,孩子准备去波士顿上高中,看了一大圈,还是比较中意hopkinton 的高中和
: 房子,百万以内,房子较新,高中评分不错。有不同建议的请指教。附近有陪读妈妈可
: 以交流一下吗?
: Hopkinton High School 2020 Rankings
: ...................

................
发信人: xxxx (zzzz媳妇), 信区: Boston
标 题: 波士顿周边比较好的公立高中
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Feb 16 10:50:15 2020, 美东)

请教各位,孩子准备去波士顿上高中,看了一大圈,还是比较中意hopkinton 的高中和房子,百万以内,房子较新,高中评分不错。有不同建议的请指教。附近有陪读妈妈可以交流一下吗?还有Medfield 怎么样?
------------
Medfield Senior High
Medfield, MA

Medfield Public Schools

#14
in Massachusetts Rankings

-----
Newton South High
Newton Centre, MA

Newton

#20
in Massachusetts Rankings
----
Winchester High School
Winchester, MA

Winchester

#21
in Massachusetts Rankings

g
gogo2004


【 在 gogo2004 (挑灯看剑) 的大作中提到: 】
: ................
: 发信人: xxxx (zzzz媳妇), 信区: Boston
: 标 题: 波士顿周边比较好的公立高中
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Feb 16 10:50:15 2020, 美东)
: 请教各位,孩子准备去波士顿上高中,看了一大圈,还是比较中意hopkinton 的高中和
: 房子,百万以内,房子较新,高中评分不错。有不同建议的请指教。附近有陪读妈妈可
: 以交流一下吗?还有Medfield 怎么样?

detail:
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t1/Boston/31891027_0_2.html