May 12, 2006 — -- How could that be a myth? Everyone agrees that if a seller greedily doubles prices after a hurricane, it's not only bad, it's immoral. People say that about today's gas prices. But wait a sec, what, exactly, is gouging? People say it's raising prices too much, but who gets to decide what's too much? Most states have anti-gouging laws. Mississippi Attorney General Jim Hood announced a crackdown on gougers after Hurricane Katrina. John Shepperson was one of the "gougers" authorities arrested. Shepperson and his family live in Kentucky. They watched news reports about Katrina and learned that people desperately needed things. Shepperson thought he could help and make some money, too, so he bought 19 generators. He and his family then rented a U-Haul and drove 600 miles to an area of Mississippi that was left without power in the wake of the hurricane. He offered to sell his generators for twice what he had paid for them, and people were eager to buy. Police confiscated his generators, though, and Shepperson was jailed for four days for price-gouging. His generators are still in police custody. So did the public benefit? Here's the real question: What is the best way to deal with shortages after a natural disaster? "Any time there is a natural disaster, or a hurricane, an earthquake, the price of the things that people desperately want to have -- batteries, flashlights, generators, water or milk -- they go up. Or they disappear," said economist Russ Roberts. If sellers don't raise prices, supplies vanish. Anxious buyers line up and often buy more than they need, just in case. Those not at the front of the line may get nothing. "More people want to buy it than there is stuff available. … What do you do? How do you solve that problem? And how do you find out who should get those scarce items," Roberts asked. The answer is you allow people to raise prices -- even to "gouge" -- because only people who REALLY need them will cough up the money. Gouging also encourages greedy entrepreneurs to rush in with much-needed goods, or to look for more supplies. The politicians' typical solution is anti-gouging laws or capping prices. During the 1970s gas crisis, that's what the government did. What happened then? "It was a disaster. It led to long lines, and you couldn't get gasoline," Roberts said. Today's fat oil company profits have led many to scream that they're gouging, but the higher prices are a signal to oil companies to drill for more oil. "The high price is a big flag that's planted in the ground that says, 'Hey, come over here and make money,'" Roberts said. Then people rush supplies in, and soon, prices come back down. You might not believe me or even Roberts that gouging is good, but will you believe Nobel Prize-winning economists Gary Becker, Vernon Smith and Milton Friedman? All three say gouging is good, and call it the best way to get important supplies to people who need them. Economists we talked to say Shepperson's a hero and that his entrepreneurship should be encouraged, not prosecuted. Hood defends his state's anti-price gouging law and said he's just doing his job by enforcing it. "Look, my job is to enforce the law. Our law says that you cannot increase your profits once a state of emergency has been declared," he said. "People want to live in a world, where love is what motivates people to help others. And love does that. But there isn't enough love to go around. And love for strangers isn't gonna motivate enough people to get in their trucks, to load 'em up with generators, and take 'em down to help people who are cold and hungry," Roberts said.
May 12, 2006 — -- How could that be a myth? Everyone agrees that if a seller greedily doubles prices after a hurricane, it's not only bad, it's immoral. People say that about today's gas prices. But wait a sec, what, exactly, is gouging? People say it's raising prices too much, but who gets to decide what's too much? Most states have anti-gouging laws. Mississippi Attorney General Jim Hood announced a crackdown on gougers after Hurricane Katrina. John Shepperson was one of the "gougers" authorities arrested. Shepperson and his family live in Kentucky. They watched news reports about Katrina and learned that people desperately needed things. Shepperson thought he could help and make some money, too, so he bought 19 generators. He and his family then rented a U-Haul and drove 600 miles to an area of Mississippi that was left without power in the wake of the hurricane. He offered to sell his generators for twice what he had paid for them, and people were eager to buy. Police confiscated his generators, though, and Shepperson was jailed for four days for price-gouging. His generators are still in police custody. So did the public benefit? Here's the real question: What is the best way to deal with shortages after a natural disaster? "Any time there is a natural disaster, or a hurricane, an earthquake, the price of the things that people desperately want to have -- batteries, flashlights, generators, water or milk -- they go up. Or they disappear," said economist Russ Roberts. If sellers don't raise prices, supplies vanish. Anxious buyers line up and often buy more than they need, just in case. Those not at the front of the line may get nothing. "More people want to buy it than there is stuff available. … What do you do? How do you solve that problem? And how do you find out who should get those scarce items," Roberts asked. The answer is you allow people to raise prices -- even to "gouge" -- because only people who REALLY need them will cough up the money. Gouging also encourages greedy entrepreneurs to rush in with much-needed goods, or to look for more supplies. The politicians' typical solution is anti-gouging laws or capping prices. During the 1970s gas crisis, that's what the government did. What happened then? "It was a disaster. It led to long lines, and you couldn't get gasoline," Roberts said. Today's fat oil company profits have led many to scream that they're gouging, but the higher prices are a signal to oil companies to drill for more oil. "The high price is a big flag that's planted in the ground that says, 'Hey, come over here and make money,'" Roberts said. Then people rush supplies in, and soon, prices come back down. You might not believe me or even Roberts that gouging is good, but will you believe Nobel Prize-winning economists Gary Becker, Vernon Smith and Milton Friedman? All three say gouging is good, and call it the best way to get important supplies to people who need them. Economists we talked to say Shepperson's a hero and that his entrepreneurship should be encouraged, not prosecuted. Hood defends his state's anti-price gouging law and said he's just doing his job by enforcing it. "Look, my job is to enforce the law. Our law says that you cannot increase your profits once a state of emergency has been declared," he said. "People want to live in a world, where love is what motivates people to help others. And love does that. But there isn't enough love to go around. And love for strangers isn't gonna motivate enough people to get in their trucks, to load 'em up with generators, and take 'em down to help people who are cold and hungry," Roberts said.
之前看个帖子里是说这个药店的进货渠道不明,估计是小作坊的三无产品,所以被人举报了,我估计也是有人背后想搞这店,正常的现在能一块钱买到口罩的心里都可以笑出声,谁无聊还要去举报。举报了好买4块5块一个的口罩吗?本人是洪湖本地的,基事实就是基本上没有碰到过低于2块的口罩。
真的心疼别人正常做生意的,别的大的有问题不管,管人家没背景,小门小店!
就是 利润15%也要看商品属性 这种本来就没几个成本的还15%的利润限制那还咋卖
首先,501.160仅适用于水,木材,汽油等必须大宗品,并不适用于口罩。其次如果能证明因为紧急状态成本增加了或者当地或国际市场此产品价格普遍上涨,则该法案不适用。再次,仅大大超出时处罚,没有规定是两成。然后,这只是佛罗里达的法律,并不代表美国都是这样的,虽然我没有调查,但是我认为纽约州,加州之类的应该没有这样的法律。别搞得像全美都是这样一样。
最后最后,你例子里只是警察逮捕但最后有没有罪要看法庭判决,你这个例子不恰当。
这是刚出的临时措施。。。
但是,合法但是不合理。。。
只想说,去他吗的。
哈哈哈哈哈 好可爱
大半是人祸。
不好意思,都是上过贡品的。
这尼玛,就过分!
最终结果就是,人们买不到口罩。
现在口罩最好都别卖了,我们这边有个医生有朋友是微商,帮忙转发了,都被处罚了,网上标题还起得像医生拿了医院的口罩去卖一样
少碰为妙
现在这时候进0.6卖1元,我买了还要说谢谢。
非常赞同你的话!??
非常赞同你的话!!
后果就是现在没啥药店卖了
要是不进自己口袋 他们吃什么
哈哈哈哈哈学校敏感吗
引起舒适。。
卖一块已经是在做好事了
发动群众斗群众(药店可算不了大资产阶级),不是说他们不管事吗,看看,管了吧,你们又说不好,那么下次就闭嘴吧
某位学者说?这个最先是子路说的🐶
就是有些人素质太低
你想多了。就是换个地方继续而已。
这特么药房谁还卖口罩。。。卖了还亏钱
同行会举报的
可以行政诉讼或复议或者上级申诉
我们这规定不得超过15桌,一方人数不能超过多少我忘了,我是男方的朋友,我去酒席的时候还特意嘱咐我如果有人来查你要说是女方的朋友,最关键,他不是政府机关单位的,是私企老板,没事还要去学习,文件虽然是强制体制内,呼吁体制外,他说怕有人搞,只能跟着做,太荒唐了!
虽然一块钱确实很便宜,我也想买,于情,赚4毛钱无可厚非。但如果之前楼说的不高于15%是真的,于理规定就是规定啊,房租人工水电是平摊在所有药的利润上啊,若不是在疫情期间确实不能卖这个价啊,只是这个节骨眼大家心思都在口罩酒精消毒液上,所以引起大家的愤慨,要是在平时被抓了处罚了估计反响不会这么激烈了。
6.9, 那叫赔钱卖。 还要应付检查, 还不如不卖。 再说了,税好像就要14% 还是 17%吧
MYTH: Price-Gouging Is Bad
2006年5月12日——这怎么可能是个神话呢?每个人都同意,如果卖家在飓风过后贪婪地将价格翻倍,这不仅是坏事,也是不道德的。人们这样说今天的汽油价格。
但是等一下,到底是什么在作祟?人们说价格涨得太多了,但是谁来决定什么是太多呢?
大多数州都有反哄抬物价法。
密西西比州总检察长吉姆·胡德在卡特里娜飓风后宣布了一项打击哄抬物价人的行动。
John Shepperson是当局逮捕的“哄抬物价人”之一。Shepperson和他的家人住在肯塔基州。他们观看了有关卡特里娜飓风的新闻报道,了解到人们急需物资。
Shepperson认为他也可以帮忙赚钱,所以他买了19台发电机。然后他和他的家人租了一辆u型拖车,开了600英里的车到密西西比的一个地区,那里在飓风过后就停电了。
他提出以两倍的价格出售他的发电机,人们很想买。警方没收了他的发电机,而Shepperson因哄抬物价被判入狱四天。他的发电机仍被警方拘留。
那么公共利益呢?真正的问题是:在自然灾害之后,应对物资短缺的最佳方式是什么?
“每当发生自然灾害、飓风或地震时,人们迫切需要的东西——电池、手电筒、发电机、水或牛奶——的价格就会上涨。否则它们就会消失,”经济学家拉斯•罗伯茨(Russ Roberts)表示。
如果卖方不提高价格,供应就会消失。焦虑的买家们排着队,往往会多买一些,以防万一。排在队伍前面的人可能什么也得不到。
“想买它的人比能买到的还多。你是做什么的?你如何解决这个问题?你怎么知道谁应该得到那些稀缺的东西呢?”罗伯茨问道。
答案是,你允许人们提高价格,甚至是“哄抬物价”,因为只有真正需要的人才会掏钱。哄抬物价还会鼓励贪婪的企业家带着急需的商品冲进来,或者寻找更多的供应。
政客们的典型解决方案是反欺诈法或限制价格。在20世纪70年代的天然气危机中,政府就是这么做的。然后发生了什么?
“这是一场灾难。结果排起了长龙,而且你买不到汽油,”罗伯茨说。
今天,石油公司丰厚的利润让许多人大声疾呼他们在欺骗,但更高的价格是石油公司开采更多石油的一个信号。
“高价就像插在地上的一面大旗,上面写着,‘嘿,到这里来赚钱吧,’”罗伯茨说。
然后人们涌入,很快,价格又回落。
你可能不相信我,甚至不相信罗伯茨说的哄抬物价是好事,但你会相信诺贝尔经济学奖得主加里•贝克尔(Gary Becker)、弗农•史密斯(Vernon Smith)和米尔顿•弗里德曼(Milton Friedman)吗?这三个人都说哄抬物价是好事,并认为这是把重要物资送到需要的人手中的最佳方式。
我们采访的经济学家说,谢泼森是一位英雄,他的创业精神应该得到鼓励,而不是被起诉。
胡德为他的州的反价格欺诈法辩护,说他只是在履行自己的职责。“听着,我的工作是执法。我们的法律规定,一旦宣布进入紧急状态,就不能增加利润。”
“人们想生活在这样一个世界里:爱是帮助他人的动力。爱就是这样。但是没有足够的爱去传播。对陌生人的爱并不能激发足够多的人上车,给他们装上发电机,然后把他们带下来帮助那些又冷又饿的人,”罗伯茨说。
May 12, 2006 — -- How could that be a myth? Everyone agrees that if a seller greedily doubles prices after a hurricane, it's not only bad, it's immoral. People say that about today's gas prices. But wait a sec, what, exactly, is gouging? People say it's raising prices too much, but who gets to decide what's too much? Most states have anti-gouging laws. Mississippi Attorney General Jim Hood announced a crackdown on gougers after Hurricane Katrina. John Shepperson was one of the "gougers" authorities arrested. Shepperson and his family live in Kentucky. They watched news reports about Katrina and learned that people desperately needed things. Shepperson thought he could help and make some money, too, so he bought 19 generators. He and his family then rented a U-Haul and drove 600 miles to an area of Mississippi that was left without power in the wake of the hurricane. He offered to sell his generators for twice what he had paid for them, and people were eager to buy. Police confiscated his generators, though, and Shepperson was jailed for four days for price-gouging. His generators are still in police custody. So did the public benefit? Here's the real question: What is the best way to deal with shortages after a natural disaster? "Any time there is a natural disaster, or a hurricane, an earthquake, the price of the things that people desperately want to have -- batteries, flashlights, generators, water or milk -- they go up. Or they disappear," said economist Russ Roberts. If sellers don't raise prices, supplies vanish. Anxious buyers line up and often buy more than they need, just in case. Those not at the front of the line may get nothing. "More people want to buy it than there is stuff available. … What do you do? How do you solve that problem? And how do you find out who should get those scarce items," Roberts asked. The answer is you allow people to raise prices -- even to "gouge" -- because only people who REALLY need them will cough up the money. Gouging also encourages greedy entrepreneurs to rush in with much-needed goods, or to look for more supplies. The politicians' typical solution is anti-gouging laws or capping prices. During the 1970s gas crisis, that's what the government did. What happened then? "It was a disaster. It led to long lines, and you couldn't get gasoline," Roberts said. Today's fat oil company profits have led many to scream that they're gouging, but the higher prices are a signal to oil companies to drill for more oil. "The high price is a big flag that's planted in the ground that says, 'Hey, come over here and make money,'" Roberts said. Then people rush supplies in, and soon, prices come back down. You might not believe me or even Roberts that gouging is good, but will you believe Nobel Prize-winning economists Gary Becker, Vernon Smith and Milton Friedman? All three say gouging is good, and call it the best way to get important supplies to people who need them. Economists we talked to say Shepperson's a hero and that his entrepreneurship should be encouraged, not prosecuted. Hood defends his state's anti-price gouging law and said he's just doing his job by enforcing it. "Look, my job is to enforce the law. Our law says that you cannot increase your profits once a state of emergency has been declared," he said. "People want to live in a world, where love is what motivates people to help others. And love does that. But there isn't enough love to go around. And love for strangers isn't gonna motivate enough people to get in their trucks, to load 'em up with generators, and take 'em down to help people who are cold and hungry," Roberts said.
好像还在实行吧?
禁摩禁电也是类似的,你看他理不理会就完了
这次的事情拿头换,全国各地都在看着
处罚过重可能违反了行政法比例原则,可以申请行政复议。不知道原文在哪,有没有官方的告知书,单看楼主说的4w多,在行政处罚里算轻的了,不知道药店具体违法的情节是怎样的
所以你现在买的到口罩吗?
是的,现在药店就是没有口罩啊
你药店卖一块,微商上十块的怎么卖出去
你忘了还有税
哈哈哈哈哈
知道为什么全国的工厂开动起来还买不到N95吧。
因为药店不卖,只能让亲戚朋友偷偷摸摸通过微商卖。
看得见的手这样不给空间是管不住看不见的手的。
我居然看完了
吃相太难看
药店早就不敢卖了
6×1.15=6.9
你想怎么定价呢
其次,这个事情最该批判为啥口罩厂出厂价只有6毛,这么低的价格才是口罩买不到的原因,如果你把4毛钱利润给口罩厂,口罩厂有利可图,不就扩大生产了么,到时候还会买不到么?
我不管,反正罚金落袋
罚金才重点,落袋为安
人类迷惑行为
我帮他说,只能进价卖,否则就是发国难财
来来来你告诉我不高于15%怎么定价
未必,老头老太太大部分也是明事理的,我更愿意相信这家药店口罩卖的太便宜被那些黑心商举报了,因为损害了他们的利益。
三岁?6毛钱的进价卖7毛都算超过15%了知道吗
进价6毛,卖1块,人家还要房租,人工,税收,能赚4毛???
房价怎么不管管。。
可能就是被有后台的药店举报的。毕竟卖这么便宜影响了人家生意
你只看一个4毛,成本6毛这就是67.7%的利润,10万就是68000的利润,这还少么,你买不到口罩不在于药店挣不到,是因为口罩厂只有6毛钱定价,利润可能只有2个点,这才是你买不到口罩的原因,你把这四毛让口罩厂赚了,让口罩厂多生产一些不比让中间商挣了好,这年头还有嫌中间商挣得少的?
看比例吧。翻翻了快
🤑这必须的还用想呢
两块现在压根拿不到货,而且,河南卫材大都产自长垣,长垣早就被接管了,按需分配,根本不进入市场……
这钱我是不敢赚,是能赚几万块,不知道得摊上多少事儿,说不定还得进去一段时间,不值当……
怎么得来的67.7%利润?
一万块钱的15%和一块钱的15%能一样?做过两天生意的都知道,价值越低的东西毛利润越高,不高能饿死。能定出这种恶法的地方不难理解为啥能祸害全中国了
现在极端情况下,药房等企业多承担一些社会责任,我觉得没有任何问题
三分之二不是,67.7%,当然毛利,不过也是很高了
对不起走错了哈
反正对我d来说都是自己人
狗官们屁股决定脑袋,人工费是平时两倍,不需要冒着被传染风险卖?反正现在没人愿意卖口罩了,这下满意了?谁妮玛愿意做亏本生意?
一大部分进!
湖北的管理部门,对接部门,维护部门,管控部门,慈善部门。
有多少命,间接死于你们手下!
非常时期,这种利润还要挣?药店就是靠口罩挣钱了?买一块也算慈善?
先吃三十杀威棒
那你有没有干任何这也叫利润?这就是慈善
67.7%毛利,对小额商品来说一点也不高,不能光看比例,也要看金额呀。
更何况现在口罩是限量的,药店不可能无限量的卖。
层主令尊能进到货吗,我想买😂
进货价格上涨30%零售不违规,他这个如果要不依不饶确实可以发款了,有理有据商家没办法反驳,我们这里口罩八块一个一次性医用外科口罩投诉了也没人管,反正回复都是人家进货都要六块五,卖你八块合情合理,吐了