I don't know the limit, but I assume piao's hh income is at least five times of mine. I don't know how much you make. If yours is 1/5 of piao's, you cannot afford your house.
以下是引用eaieeaie在4/13/2011 5:04:00 PM的发言: you should carry over as your future income is going to rise, and thus tax. 正解,income填在income栏,loss填在deduction栏里
i haven't done it. you can ask yinyin and mumu. I am gussing you can carry over the 6000 losses and now this year instead of 8000 gains, will be 2000 gains.
i haven't done it. you can ask yinyin and mumu. I am gussing you can carry over the 6000 losses and now this year instead of 8000 gains, will be 2000 gains.
以下是引用yzhang7在4/13/2011 4:55:00 PM的发言:
你确定你没算错?
以下是引用applebee22在4/13/2011 4:57:00 PM的发言:
yes, $3000 per year per household. $1500 per person if jointed.
我和ZT说离婚算了, 能省不少钱呢.
I don't know the limit, but I assume piao's hh income is at least five times of mine.
I don't know how much you make. If yours is 1/5 of piao's, you cannot afford your house.
I don't know how much you make. If yours is 1/5 of piao's, you cannot afford your house.
nod nod,大眼总是大眼他们家,收入也是,哼哼
如果没有HIT AMT, 应该是可以全DEDUCT的。。。
AMT是多少?anyway, 远不是我家需要考虑的。
yes, $3000 per year per household. $1500 per person if jointed.
我和ZT说离婚算了, 能省不少钱呢.
我的意思是一年损失3000块?
以下是引用eaieeaie在4/13/2011 4:58:00 PM的发言:
I don't know how much you make. If yours is 1/5 of piao's, you cannot afford your house.
I don't know how much you make. If yours is 1/5 of piao's, you cannot afford your house.
段我端我
我家今年倒是能拿回来。。。 但是是因为我们狠了心的扣啊。。。 每个人W-4上面都一个DEPENDENT都没敢上。 还是HIT了AMT, 然后一个CREDIT都拿不回来。
bso, bso
以下是引用angelazy在4/13/2011 4:59:00 PM的发言:
AMT是多少?anyway, 远不是我家需要考虑的。
I don't know how much you make. If yours is 1/5 of piao's, you cannot afford your house.
不会吧,Q知道我的工资,她说飘家是我家的10倍。
我的意思是一年损失3000块?
一年最多只能deduct 3000的loss,但是可以carry forward 5年还是20年,记不得了。
business的loss肯定是20年,capital loss记不得了。
段我端我
190,000 for no work tax credit. Then you add all the 401K and ESPP stuff, FSA...
nod nod,大眼总是大眼他们家,收入也是,哼哼
真是奇怪了,我每次说的都是实话,你们怎么就不信呢!
至于收入,是多少就是多少,说多了说少了都没有任何意义。
不会吧,Q知道我的工资,她说飘家是我家的10倍。
就是说你家要是50K的收入的话,飘就是500K。好高啊。何况大眼家肯定不止50K.
不时一个线, 应该是一个比。
什么和什么比?
一年最多只能deduct 3000的loss,但是可以carry forward 5年还是20年,记不得了。
business的loss肯定是20年,capital loss记不得了。
如果第一年赔了6000,报税的时候claim 3000 loss, 第二年回本了,又赚了2000,怎么报?
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190,000 for no work tax credit. Then you add all the 401K and ESPP stuff, FSA...
这些占收入多大比例?我没有概念。
如果第一年赔了6000,报税的时候claim 3000 loss, 第二年赚了8000,怎么报?
you should carry over as your future income is going to rise, and thus tax.
真是奇怪了,我每次说的都是实话,你们怎么就不信呢!
至于收入,是多少就是多少,说多了说少了都没有任何意义。
因为不可能啊,你们买的房子我们知道大概多少钱,所以大概范围可以算得出啊。
you should carry over as your future income is going to rise, and thus tax.
没看懂到底怎么操作。
这些占收入多大比例?我没有概念。
I don't know either. 401K is 165000 each person, ESPP, I am guessing similar to 401K.
以下是引用eaieeaie在4/13/2011 5:01:00 PM的发言:
190,000 for no work tax credit. Then you add all the 401K and ESPP stuff, FSA...
以下是引用angelazy在4/13/2011 5:03:00 PM的发言:
如果第一年赔了6000,报税的时候claim 3000 loss, 第二年赚了8000,怎么报?
哈哈哈哈, 去年嫩家股票赚了不少嘛.
you should carry over as your future income is going to rise, and thus tax. 正解,income填在income栏,loss填在deduction栏里
没看懂到底怎么操作。
i haven't done it. you can ask yinyin and mumu. I am gussing you can carry over the 6000 losses and now this year instead of 8000 gains, will be 2000 gains.
I don't know either. 401K is 165000 each person, ESPP, I am guessing similar to 401K.
OMG!!!
ESPP is actually part of your W-2 income.
How does ESPP work?
因为不可能啊,你们买的房子我们知道大概多少钱,所以大概范围可以算得出啊。
这有什么意义?要看每个月的房贷和地税占工资多少比例,10%-80%差得远着呢!
以下是引用angelazy在4/13/2011 5:07:00 PM的发言:
OMG!!!
I don't know either. 401K is 165000 each person, ESPP, I am guessing similar to 401K.
偶像, 你多写了一个0啊!
ESPP is actually part of your W-2 income.
it is said if you not sell it in the same year, then it won't be included in W-2.
Is this correct?
没看懂到底怎么操作。
怎么会呢?我觉得很清楚啊。你用软件保税吗?你把income填好,deduction填好,你股票赚的钱体现在income里,carry over的loss在deduction栏里,然后根据你当年的其他收入和deduction算出你的税。
这有什么意义?要看每个月的房贷和地税占工资多少比例,10%-80%差得远着呢!
我只是说不可能有5倍那么多啦,没别的意思
偶像, 你多写了一个0啊!
sorry, sorry.
以下是引用eaieeaie在4/13/2011 5:08:00 PM的发言:
How does ESPP work?
she put one more 0 than allowed.
did you get my money
the gain is already in your W-2, but the extra gain that you gained, or loss after the purchase date is not included.
for example, stock is 10 dollars at purchase date. Your company sells you at 8.5. the 1.5 dollars are already in w-2.
if you sell it later at 12, or 8, then the 2 dollar gain or loss will be your capitol gain or loss that you need to report to IRS.
以下是引用applebee22在4/13/2011 5:08:00 PM的发言:
it is said if you not sell it in the same year, then it won't be included in W-2.
Is this correct?
以下是引用angelazy在4/13/2011 5:03:00 PM的发言:
如果第一年赔了6000,报税的时候claim 3000 loss, 第二年赚了8000,怎么报?
哈哈哈哈, 去年嫩家股票赚了不少嘛.
我不知道怎么定义股票的赚赔,我只知道我给了牛爸一笔钱,前几年他说少了一大笔,去年说比我给的数多了一点点。
i had to think for a while why you gave me money, then i figured out.
he he.
以下是引用eaieeaie在4/13/2011 5:10:00 PM的发言:
did you get my money
正解,income填在income栏,loss填在deduction栏里
啊?!
买的哪个?前后的还是并排的?最高限重多少?
http://www.albeebaby.com/baby-jogger-city-mini-double-orange-grey.html
this one. 50 lb
i guess it depends on your company...
the gain is already in your W-2, but the extra gain that you gained, or loss after the purchase date is not included.
for example, stock is 10 dollars at purchase date. Your company sells you at 8.5. the 1.5 dollars are already in w-2.
if you sell it later at 12, or 8, then the 2 dollar gain or loss will be your capitol gain or loss that you need to report to IRS.
所以我说ESPP很讨厌, 如果没能卖到10, 就只能报LOSS.
我家今年倒是能拿回来。。。 但是是因为我们狠了心的扣啊。。。 每个人W-4上面都一个DEPENDENT都没敢上。 还是HIT了AMT, 然后一个CREDIT都拿不回来。
me 2. my lg deduct additional 250 dollars per paycheck. we almost paid for the penalty last year
啊?!
我理解yinyin说的就是8000放在income那里,3000 carry over的loss 放在loss那里
I was debating if i should get a single stroller of that brand... then turned down by my zt.
以下是引用飘缥在4/13/2011 5:12:00 PM的发言:
http://www.albeebaby.com/baby-jogger-city-mini-double-orange-grey.html
this one. 50 lb
yes.
i had to think for a while why you gave me money, then i figured out.
he he.
ha ha ha ha
i guess it depends on your company...
the gain is already in your W-2, but the extra gain that you gained, or loss after the purchase date is not included.
for example, stock is 10 dollars at purchase date. Your company sells you at 8.5. the 1.5 dollars are already in w-2.
if you sell it later at 12, or 8, then the 2 dollar gain or loss will be your capitol gain or loss that you need to report to IRS.
I see. The money you put in is pre-tax or after-tax? Is the 8.5 tax deductible?
But then, if you sell it at 9 dollars, you still gained 50 cents per share.
以下是引用applebee22在4/13/2011 5:12:00 PM的发言:
所以我说ESPP很讨厌, 如果没能卖到10, 就只能报LOSS.
yes.
i had to think for a while why you gave me money, then i figured out.
he he.
亲耐滴, 明天咖啡吧, 今天事情比较多.
其实俺更想和你饭饭.
i haven't done it. you can ask yinyin and mumu. I am gussing you can carry over the 6000 losses and now this year instead of 8000 gains, will be 2000 gains.
晕了!
举例说明吧,
假如本金10000,第一年亏了6000,只剩下4000了,报税的时候claim了3000的loss. 第二年回本了,又赚了2000,总是变成12000了,报税应该怎么报?
totally my tea.
I was debating if i should get a single stroller of that brand... then turned down by my zt.
你们不住城里,不喜欢慢跑hiking的话我觉得不是必须的,嘻嘻
I see. The money you put in is pre-tax or after-tax? Is the 8.5 tax deductible?
ESPP是aftertax的吧。
So not tax deductable.
以下是引用eaieeaie在4/13/2011 5:13:00 PM的发言:
I see. The money you put in is pre-tax or after-tax? Is the 8.5 tax deductible?
ESPP是aftertax的吧。
I see.
she put one more 0 than allowed.
吓死我了,别人家的401都是我家总收入的N倍!
以下是引用applebee22在4/13/2011 5:14:00 PM的发言:
亲耐滴, 明天咖啡吧, 今天事情比较多.
其实俺更想和你饭饭.
right.
But then, if you sell it at 9 dollars, you still gained 50 cents per share.
不是啊, if $9, I have $1 lost. because the cost base is $10.
very very 讨厌的.
晕了!
举例说明吧,
假如本金10000,第一年亏了6000,只剩下4000了,报税的时候claim了3000的loss. 第二年回本了,又赚了2000,总是变成12000了,报税应该怎么报?
gain of 5000
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晕了!
举例说明吧,
假如本金10000,第一年亏了6000,只剩下4000了,报税的时候claim了3000的loss. 第二年回本了,又赚了2000,总是变成12000了,报税应该怎么报?
claim你没claim完的3000 loss,
再报你的8000的gain。
你们不住城里,不喜欢慢跑hiking的话我觉得不是必须的,嘻嘻
不会吧,Q知道我的工资,她说飘家是我家的10倍。
她瞎说的
恩。 我们不慢跑不HIKING。 我就是觉得我家肉人坐着舒服点。。。
真想你家肉人, 有近照木?
不是啊, if $9, I have $1 lost. because the cost base is $10.
very very 讨厌的.
She says overall, you made money, but it's in two parts 1.5 gain and 1 loss. If it is in the same year, it doesn't affect your tax.
不是啊, if $9, I have $1 lost. because the cost base is $10.
very very 讨厌的.
你可以claim这1块的loss啊。嘿嘿。
因为公司给你ESPP的discount时候,discount已经include在你的W2里了
以下是引用applebee22在4/13/2011 5:17:00 PM的发言:
真想你家肉人, 有近照木?
怎么会呢?我觉得很清楚啊。你用软件保税吗?你把income填好,deduction填好,你股票赚的钱体现在income里,carry over的loss在deduction栏里,然后根据你当年的其他收入和deduction算出你的税。
股票那块我没参与,不知道牛爸怎么报的。本来告诉我carry over 3000,后来又告诉我不能carry over, 要claim gain, 我就糊涂了。
我只知道股票帐号的总钱数,比最初本金多了4000,但牛爸填的shedule D上最终显示赚了6000,我就更糊涂了。
以下是引用Juliayin在4/13/2011 5:17:00 PM的发言:
你可以claim这1块的loss啊。嘿嘿。
因为公司给你ESPP的discount时候,discount已经include在你的W2里了
totally my tea.
I was debating if i should get a single stroller of that brand... then turned down by my zt.
哈哈
股票那块我没参与,不知道牛爸怎么报的。本来告诉我carry over 3000,后来又告诉我不能carry over, 要claim gain, 我就糊涂了。
我只知道股票帐号的总钱数,比最初本金多了4000,但牛爸填的shedule D上最终显示赚了6000,我就更糊涂了。
你本金10000,第一年亏了6000,所以第二年开始的base就是4000了啊,假设你第一年全部卖掉的话。第二年变成12000,那么gain就是8000,假设全部卖掉的话。如果第一年没卖,就不能claim任何loss的啊,只有卖了才是loss和gain。
She says overall, you made money, but it's in two parts 1.5 gain and 1 loss. If it is in the same year, it doesn't affect your tax.
No, they are different indeed.
if putting together, I have .5 gain actually, then I may claim loss for other stocks. 现在无法claim别的了, 只能carry over.
唉, 怪只怪ZT不会炒股净乱搞!
股票那块我没参与,不知道牛爸怎么报的。本来告诉我carry over 3000,后来又告诉我不能carry over, 要claim gain, 我就糊涂了。
我只知道股票帐号的总钱数,比最初本金多了4000,但牛爸填的shedule D上最终显示赚了6000,我就更糊涂了。
4000+the 2000 loss you claimed last year.
No, they are different indeed.
if putting together, I have .5 gain actually, then I may claim loss for other stocks. 现在无法claim别的了, 只能carry over.
唉, 怪只怪ZT不会炒股净乱搞!
you still lost money last year?
你们不住城里,不喜欢慢跑hiking的话我觉得不是必须的,嘻嘻
我当时也是这样想的,想去买个便宜的,结果去店里面试了一下,决定还是买这个了,我家22现在就可以用了,还很轻。我家以后周末出门必须要一个。现在我们是要推两个车。本来老大可以自己走的,不过一看弟弟有车,她也不愿意自己走了,所以我不得不买。
我只是说不可能有5倍那么多啦,没别的意思
没有,没有,我不是反驳你,我还希望被说收入高呢,呵呵。只是完美家收入确实比我们高得多。sorry, 完美,不是想八卦你,是大家讨论技术问题,并且羡慕你。
claim你没claim完的3000 loss,
再报你的8000的gain。
o, 好像牛爸是这么报的。我再问问他。
你本金10000,第一年亏了6000,所以第二年开始的base就是4000了啊,假设你第一年全部卖掉的话。第二年变成12000,那么gain就是8000,假设全部卖掉的话。如果第一年没卖,就不能claim任何loss的啊,只有卖了才是loss和gain。
oh, i see。 sorry,我真是一点都不懂。我只care牛爸能给我拿回来多少钱,不该交的税也别多报了
4000+the 2000 loss you claimed last year.
i see, i see。只要不是牛爸藏了私房钱,赔了不怪他,咔咔
这个楼爬得很值,学了不少知识。
嗯,我家刚刚工作,什么都不懂,来娘家问,不怕被笑话
你们打算什么时候去?
蛋是分批拿出来的吗?
oh, i see。 sorry,我真是一点都不懂。我只care牛爸能给我拿回来多少钱,不该交的税也别多报了
你就问问牛爸他到底前年和去年都卖了没有,如果根本没卖,只是账面上数字的变化应该啥都不用报的,我理解yinyin说的哈
你就问问牛爸他到底前年和去年都卖了没有,如果根本没卖,只是账面上数字的变化应该啥都不用报的,我理解yinyin说的哈
嗯,好,曾经听他说过全卖掉了,又买了,如何如何,不太确定到底现在是什么情况。
你就问问牛爸他到底前年和去年都卖了没有,如果根本没卖,只是账面上数字的变化应该啥都不用报的,我理解yinyin说的哈
re
嗯,好,曾经听他说过全卖掉了,又买了,如何如何,不太确定到底现在是什么情况。
just let him take care of it
没有,没有,我不是反驳你,我还希望被说收入高呢,呵呵。只是完美家收入确实比我们高得多。sorry, 完美,不是想八卦你,是大家讨论技术问题,并且羡慕你。
没事没事,大家一起讨论讨论
星河,收到信了,
你们打算什么时候去?
蛋是分批拿出来的吗?
你们打算穿什么样子去egg hunting?我还没给她找到合适的easter dress
我当时也是这样想的,想去买个便宜的,结果去店里面试了一下,决定还是买这个了,我家22现在就可以用了,还很轻。我家以后周末出门必须要一个。现在我们是要推两个车。本来老大可以自己走的,不过一看弟弟有车,她也不愿意自己走了,所以我不得不买。
我以前在那边的时候怎么都不怎么用stroller啊,所以我觉得没啥用,这边是走路多一定要用
你们打算穿什么样子去egg hunting?我还没给她找到合适的easter dress
我们这里可能都穿不了dress呢
你们打算穿什么样子去egg hunting?我还没给她找到合适的easter dress
我都没想过这个问题,汗
说起来,家里捡蛋的篮子被我们平时装东西装坏了,难道用南瓜节的篮子?
You see ne? we can go together.
以下是引用cozyfish在4/13/2011 5:32:00 PM的发言:
星河,收到信了,
你们打算什么时候去?
蛋是分批拿出来的吗?
我以前在那边的时候怎么都不怎么用stroller啊,所以我觉得没啥用,这边是走路多一定要用
我们现在周末天天在外面,老大又不愿意自己走,所以不买不行啊
i might have 2... might...
tun last year.
以下是引用cozyfish在4/13/2011 5:45:00 PM的发言:
我都没想过这个问题,汗
说起来,家里捡蛋的篮子被我们平时装东西装坏了,难道用南瓜节的篮子?
you still lost money last year?
是啊! 可恨的ZT!!!!!!!!
i see, i see。只要不是牛爸藏了私房钱,赔了不怪他,咔咔
牛爸够好的了!
星河,收到信了,
你们打算什么时候去?
蛋是分批拿出来的吗?
真羡慕~~~~~~~~~
let me see if i have extra.
i might have 2... might...
tun last year.
星河,我家最后还是买了奥德赛。sienna现在多钱?
是啊! 可恨的ZT!!!!!!!!
pat, pat, 他不是故意的。
pat, pat, 他不是故意的。
你太替他开脱了,
这事谁会故意啊!
星河,我家最后还是买了奥德赛。sienna现在多钱?
4W everything included.