发信人: wqb (whatever), 信区: Family 标 题: Re: 沈教授在微软讲学的录像 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jan 20 04:53:59 2011, 美东) 不要扫了大姐的兴,Melinda6是个好人:) 大姐是Argonne的吗? Now I have my comments on Shen AP's talk, after killing more than one hour of my good sleep time:(. Someone can forward this to huaren. I browsed a couple of pages there and found all of those posters have no knowledge of academic research and the particular field, but quite enjoying slinging mud onto other people. Accent aside, Shen Haiying is an experienced presenter, who spoke in a steady speed with proper emphasis at critical points. She clearly presented her work, and interacted with the audience nicely during the Q&As. It was a nice talk, though not the best I have been to by a Chinese AP. From their interaction, the situation seemed like she was attending a conference in Seattle area, and made an excursion to MSR to talk with the interested group. Hence, the sparse audience. Shen evidently knows her field very well, and has good insights. I am not directly in the P2P field, so I can not compare her work with her competing peers. But looks to me, MSR people recognized her work. The host, 李劲, who manages MSR's communication system team, is one of the most talented Chinese folks of his time, maybe even until now. Noted that her talk took place in September 2009, after she moved to Clemson , but before she was awarded the faculty fellowship from Microsoft Research. So it can be reasonably assumed that Microsoft people is aware of her organization change and tenure-tracked years. I wouldn't be worried about the challenge on her eligibility for the award. Briefly skimming over her publication list (a very impressive one to me), I found some of her collaborators has been serving as NSF director (Huaren DaMa's may add one more charge to her crime:). My feeling is Prof. Shen is well established in her field and well recognized by her peers. She should be ab le to have a successful career. BTW, I didn't know the shitty place as huaren before this event. Really eye-wide -opening!
发信人: wqb (whatever), 信区: Family 标 题: Re: 沈教授在微软讲学的录像 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jan 20 04:53:59 2011, 美东) 不要扫了大姐的兴,Melinda6是个好人:) 大姐是Argonne的吗? Now I have my comments on Shen AP's talk, after killing more than one hour of my good sleep time:(. Someone can forward this to huaren. I browsed a couple of pages there and found all of those posters have no knowledge of academic research and the particular field, but quite enjoying slinging mud onto other people. Accent aside, Shen Haiying is an experienced presenter, who spoke in a steady speed with proper emphasis at critical points. She clearly presented her work, and interacted with the audience nicely during the Q&As. It was a nice talk, though not the best I have been to by a Chinese AP. From their interaction, the situation seemed like she was attending a conference in Seattle area, and made an excursion to MSR to talk with the interested group. Hence, the sparse audience. Shen evidently knows her field very well, and has good insights. I am not directly in the P2P field, so I can not compare her work with her competing peers. But looks to me, MSR people recognized her work. The host, 李劲, who manages MSR's communication system team, is one of the most talented Chinese folks of his time, maybe even until now. Noted that her talk took place in September 2009, after she moved to Clemson , but before she was awarded the faculty fellowship from Microsoft Research. So it can be reasonably assumed that Microsoft people is aware of her organization change and tenure-tracked years. I wouldn't be worried about the challenge on her eligibility for the award. Briefly skimming over her publication list (a very impressive one to me), I found some of her collaborators has been serving as NSF director (Huaren DaMa's may add one more charge to her crime:). My feeling is Prof. Shen is well established in her field and well recognized by her peers. She should be ab le to have a successful career. BTW, I didn't know the shitty place as huaren before this event. Really eye-wide -opening!
发信人: wqb (whatever), 信区: Family 标 题: Re: 沈教授在微软讲学的录像 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jan 20 04:53:59 2011, 美东) 不要扫了大姐的兴,Melinda6是个好人:) 大姐是Argonne的吗? Now I have my comments on Shen AP's talk, after killing more than one hour of my good sleep time:(. Someone can forward this to huaren. I browsed a couple of pages there and found all of those posters have no knowledge of academic research and the particular field, but quite enjoying slinging mud onto other people. Accent aside, Shen Haiying is an experienced presenter, who spoke in a steady speed with proper emphasis at critical points. She clearly presented her work, and interacted with the audience nicely during the Q&As. It was a nice talk, though not the best I have been to by a Chinese AP. From their interaction, the situation seemed like she was attending a conference in Seattle area, and made an excursion to MSR to talk with the interested group. Hence, the sparse audience. Shen evidently knows her field very well, and has good insights. I am not directly in the P2P field, so I can not compare her work with her competing peers. But looks to me, MSR people recognized her work. The host, 李劲, who manages MSR's communication system team, is one of the most talented Chinese folks of his time, maybe even until now. Noted that her talk took place in September 2009, after she moved to Clemson , but before she was awarded the faculty fellowship from Microsoft Research. So it can be reasonably assumed that Microsoft people is aware of her organization change and tenure-tracked years. I wouldn't be worried about the challenge on her eligibility for the award. Briefly skimming over her publication list (a very impressive one to me), I found some of her collaborators has been serving as NSF director (Huaren DaMa's may add one more charge to her crime:). My feeling is Prof. Shen is well established in her field and well recognized by her peers. She should be ab le to have a successful career. BTW, I didn't know the shitty place as huaren before this event. Really eye-wide -opening!
发信人: wqb (whatever), 信区: Family 标 题: Re: 沈教授在微软讲学的录像 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jan 20 04:53:59 2011, 美东) 不要扫了大姐的兴,Melinda6是个好人:) 大姐是Argonne的吗? Now I have my comments on Shen AP's talk, after killing more than one hour of my good sleep time:(. Someone can forward this to huaren. I browsed a couple of pages there and found all of those posters have no knowledge of academic research and the particular field, but quite enjoying slinging mud onto other people. Accent aside, Shen Haiying is an experienced presenter, who spoke in a steady speed with proper emphasis at critical points. She clearly presented her work, and interacted with the audience nicely during the Q&As. It was a nice talk, though not the best I have been to by a Chinese AP. From their interaction, the situation seemed like she was attending a conference in Seattle area, and made an excursion to MSR to talk with the interested group. Hence, the sparse audience. Shen evidently knows her field very well, and has good insights. I am not directly in the P2P field, so I can not compare her work with her competing peers. But looks to me, MSR people recognized her work. The host, 李劲, who manages MSR's communication system team, is one of the most talented Chinese folks of his time, maybe even until now. Noted that her talk took place in September 2009, after she moved to Clemson , but before she was awarded the faculty fellowship from Microsoft Research. So it can be reasonably assumed that Microsoft people is aware of her organization change and tenure-tracked years. I wouldn't be worried about the challenge on her eligibility for the award. Briefly skimming over her publication list (a very impressive one to me), I found some of her collaborators has been serving as NSF director (Huaren DaMa's may add one more charge to her crime:). My feeling is Prof. Shen is well established in her field and well recognized by her peers. She should be ab le to have a successful career. BTW, I didn't know the shitty place as huaren before this event. Really eye-wide -opening!
IMO, there is a good 50% chance that nothing much will happen. The only long-term damage to the AP is that it will be harder to attract Chinese students in the future.
But again, that alone may be a 重创 to her. Just look at her student list. 以下是引用yurenwuzhi在1/20/2011 4:33:00 PM的发言:
发信人: midusa (midusa), 信区: Family
标 题: 大家还是理性对待shenAP吧
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jan 20 13:58:30 2011, 美东)
说实在的,原来我也觉得shenAP有猫腻。但看了她在微软的presentation后,觉得
虽然她英语口音比较重,很多词读错了。但presentation skill非常好。非常自信。我
认为他的表现做有可能来自于3方面。
1,英语语言能力。英语不只是口语和语法。还有背后的语言思维习惯。她这点应该是
作的很好的。我自己托福语法改错能拿满分,但到了语言意群这个级别上,和中文组织
能力比,差的不是一个级别。沈在这点做的很好。
2。对自己专业的了解和掌控。如果真是睡出来的,presentation不会那么流利,重点
突出-我是说语言上。专业我不懂。
3。应该讲过很多次。可能是练习,但我看更可能是多次参加会议实战练出来的。
我觉得,人家做到这一步步容易。如果有确实证据就去举报。如果只是怀疑,没必要去
写“怀疑信”给系里。
FT!这是哪个WSN? 还是亲友团?
1。口语的事情我不争论,凭良心说,我是见过更差的AP, 不过她这个已经很差了(除了开头1-2分钟)
2。你哪里听出来她“对自己专业的了解和掌控”!!!??? 这点computer network 的基本知识EE本科生就学过了!她像讲课一样给MS那些researcher普及基本知识?!这到底还是不是IEEE paper presentation阿?中途她还需要看讲义?!
3。“应该讲过很多次”那是开头部分,提问部分简直惨不忍睹
为什么没有人把秋大妈她lg揪出来呢?他才是真正欺负秋大妈的阿。一个有妇之夫,在外面假装单身勾引有夫之妇,这才是罪魁祸首。
以下是引用Joann在1/20/2011 3:00:00 PM的发言:
以下是引用trayanh在1/20/2011 2:26:00 PM的发言:
发信人: midusa (midusa), 信区: Family
标 题: 大家还是理性对待shenAP吧
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jan 20 13:58:30 2011, 美东)
说实在的,原来我也觉得shenAP有猫腻。但看了她在微软的presentation后,觉得
虽然她英语口音比较重,很多词读错了。但presentation skill非常好。非常自信。我
认为他的表现做有可能来自于3方面。
1,英语语言能力。英语不只是口语和语法。还有背后的语言思维习惯。她这点应该是
作的很好的。我自己托福语法改错能拿满分,但到了语言意群这个级别上,和中文组织
能力比,差的不是一个级别。沈在这点做的很好。
2。对自己专业的了解和掌控。如果真是睡出来的,presentation不会那么流利,重点
突出-我是说语言上。专业我不懂。
3。应该讲过很多次。可能是练习,但我看更可能是多次参加会议实战练出来的。
我觉得,人家做到这一步步容易。如果有确实证据就去举报。如果只是怀疑,没必要去
写“怀疑信”给系里。
FT!这是哪个WSN? 还是亲友团?
1。口语的事情我不争论,凭良心说,我是见过更差的AP, 不过她这个已经很差了(除了开头1-2分钟)
2。你哪里听出来她“对自己专业的了解和掌控”!!!??? 这点computer network 的基本知识EE本科生就学过了!她像讲课一样给MS那些researcher普及基本知识?!这到底还是不是IEEE paper presentation阿?中途她还需要看讲义?!
3。“应该讲过很多次”那是开头部分,提问部分简直惨不忍睹
我听了前面一点,就是有口音,流利还是很流利的
要往后面看看,才有破绽,前面可能都是准备好了的,现场问答才有意思
同学们,我是仔细听过了那个video的!
不要这么诬蔑真正辛苦做学问的人。你可以对ap失望,但是不要拿ap代表整个学术界。
[此贴子已经被作者于2011/1/20 15:00:42编辑过]
我没对ap失望,虽然我看不起她,但还比较佩服她竟然最终坚持走到现在这一步,除了造假以外,她的勇气值得学习. 但她的水平实在不应该走学术的路,虽然交际很重要,但基本素质还是要的.我觉得本科真的很重要,决定了一个人的眼界. 本科毕业你就能知道自己是不是研究这块料了. 沈妹妹没经过本科那种训练,没见识,自然以为学术的路好走.
我没对ap失望,虽然我看不起她,但还比较佩服她竟然最终坚持走到现在这一步,除了造假以外,她的勇气值得学习. 但她的水平实在不应该走学术的路,虽然交际很重要,但基本素质还是要的.我觉得本科真的很重要,决定了一个人的眼界. 本科毕业你就能知道自己是不是研究这块料了. 沈妹妹没经过本科那种训练,没见识,自然以为学术的路好走.
什么勇气?造假的勇气?
我没对ap失望,虽然我看不起她,但还比较佩服她竟然最终坚持走到现在这一步,除了造假以外,她的勇气值得学习. 但她的水平实在不应该走学术的路,虽然交际很重要,但基本素质还是要的.我觉得本科真的很重要,决定了一个人的眼界. 本科毕业你就能知道自己是不是研究这块料了. 沈妹妹没经过本科那种训练,没见识,自然以为学术的路好走.
那你打击一片AP干啥啊?
可是,看看她的achievement,明显是一牛人啊
如此OK、不差、过关的performance跟这么牛的achievement到底match么??
所以,亲友团光洗白AP“水平不差”还不够,得证明AP是真材实料的牛人才行
我没对ap失望,虽然我看不起她,但还比较佩服她竟然最终坚持走到现在这一步,除了造假以外,她的勇气值得学习. 但她的水平实在不应该走学术的路,虽然交际很重要,但基本素质还是要的.我觉得本科真的很重要,决定了一个人的眼界. 本科毕业你就能知道自己是不是研究这块料了. 沈妹妹没经过本科那种训练,没见识,自然以为学术的路好走.
又是新ID...
发现新ID特别sympathetic...
洗白的亲友团们无非是给AP辩解她水平OK、不差、过关
可是,看看她的achievement,明显是一牛人啊
如此OK、不差、过关的performance跟这么牛的achievement到底match么??
所以,亲友团光洗白AP“水平不差”还不够,得证明AP是真材实料的牛人才行
哇,你没看前面贴的那几个,那怎么是辩解水平OK 不差,过关啊。那分明就是说师太是真的真的优秀,就是你们这些嫉妒的人,不看贴回贴,给师太泼脏水呀。
我没对ap失望,虽然我看不起她,但还比较佩服她竟然最终坚持走到现在这一步,除了造假以外,她的勇气值得学习. 但她的水平实在不应该走学术的路,虽然交际很重要,但基本素质还是要的.我觉得本科真的很重要,决定了一个人的眼界. 本科毕业你就能知道自己是不是研究这块料了. 沈妹妹没经过本科那种训练,没见识,自然以为学术的路好走.
nod nod
她没有受过正统得本科trainning.在那种放羊吃草的班里,成绩稍微好一些都成为凤毛麟角.难免人不会心高气傲,自以为是多一些
为什么老有人说沈教授演讲的很好?有没有ID能编辑一下,把沈教授回答问题的部分单独放上去让大家评价评价?
good idea...
另外沈妹妹坏了学术这个江湖的规则,虽然都是骗,大部份都是要讲规则和水平的.沈妹妹实在是道行浅啊,她要是真在同济的本科和研究生院混一混,就会知道面包不是这么抢的
唉,发现我居然赞同你的看法。学术圈不是净土,但是这么破坏游戏规则,就是她的不对了。要说真在国内学术圈混混,沈姐姐连一天都骗不了啊
师太能否逃过此劫?我觉得50%可能是NSF/MS/Clemson全都为遮丑而睁一只眼闭一只眼。结果就是师太过半年自动辞职海归。
师太过半年就 tenure 了,笑傲华人大妈这些没绿卡的狗...
[此贴子已经被作者于2011/1/20 15:24:03编辑过]
那封英文信不算有理有据啊,都对不上,一边说ap的presentation做的好,对自己工作了解有前瞻,一边又说自己不是这行,没法比较她的work和别人的,那所谓的前瞻是啥,是眼睛往前看吧,你都不了解那行了还知道人家的前瞻是啥啊。 后面又说人家微软请她做talk了所以就知道她不符合申请要求,这个搞笑了,请人做talk又不用背景调查,跟那个什么奖更没关系了,为啥评奖的人会因为这个talk了解她啊。
关键的不是在于“有理有据”,要是师太的什么东西都有理有据的话,她不至于今天给揪出这么多毛病来。
关键的就在于这种没理也挣三分的气势。写信的人不需要了解,不需要仔细看录像,不需要比较,也不需要分析,只要这种压倒一切的气势,拍案喝出这么一句:“我觉得她水平就是很高”,然后用很多strong的词来修饰,说的流畅一些,就足够了。
老实说,我觉得写那个英文信的仁兄,一定是个写推荐信的好手,当然,有人解释了,那是写评语练出来的,那估计也没少给NSF写review吧?
师太过半年就 tenure,笑傲华人大妈这些没绿卡的狗...
那如果这半年给人捅出来,她不就玩完了?
不是造假的勇气,而是出身这么低还勇于走学术的路. 我知道一个同济妹妹是同济排名第一的结构工程专业第一名毕业,本科和硕士都是保送的, 英语也很好,拿了美国博士学位后还是放弃了学术的路,因为觉得自己不是那块料,相比之下,叹之
我没对ap失望,虽然我看不起她,但还比较佩服她竟然最终坚持走到现在这一步,除了造假以外,她的勇气值得学习. 但她的水平实在不应该走学术的路,虽然交际很重要,但基本素质还是要的.我觉得本科真的很重要,决定了一个人的眼界. 本科毕业你就能知道自己是不是研究这块料了. 沈妹妹没经过本科那种训练,没见识,自然以为学术的路好走.
不是说进工业界就她这点计算机水平更难么
关键的不是在于“有理有据”,要是师太的什么东西都有理有据的话,她不至于今天给揪出这么多毛病来。
关键的就在于这种没理也挣三分的气势。写信的人不需要了解,不需要仔细看录像,不需要比较,也不需要分析,只要这种压倒一切的气势,拍案喝出这么一句:“我觉得她水平就是很高”,然后用很多strong的词来修饰,说的流畅一些,就足够了。
老实说,我觉得写那个英文信的仁兄,一定是个写推荐信的好手,当然,有人解释了,那是写评语练出来的,那估计也没少给NSF写review吧?
这根本是赤裸裸的鄙视大家的智商啊,你要说她牛,你好歹说她做了啥牛的东西,要不就这推荐信,乍一看很strong,再一看就是一封空信嘛
关键的不是在于“有理有据”,要是师太的什么东西都有理有据的话,她不至于今天给揪出这么多毛病来。
关键的就在于这种没理也挣三分的气势。写信的人不需要了解,不需要仔细看录像,不需要比较,也不需要分析,只要这种压倒一切的气势,拍案喝出这么一句:“我觉得她水平就是很高”,然后用很多strong的词来修饰,说的流畅一些,就足够了。
老实说,我觉得写那个英文信的仁兄,一定是个写推荐信的好手,当然,有人解释了,那是写评语练出来的,那估计也没少给NSF写review吧?
完全同意,那封信除了写得不错,跟“有理有据”不沾半点边,休想糊弄咱做审计的= =
WOW
37万人次?还是37万unique visitor?
Again, WOW.
不是说进工业界就她这点计算机水平更难么 工业界的很多公司很好混的.那么多F2过来读一年计算机拿硕士的都去了.
这根本是赤裸裸的鄙视大家的智商啊,你要说她牛,你好歹说她做了啥牛的东西,要不就这推荐信,乍一看很strong,再一看就是一封空信嘛
可是你不觉得吗?师太做的这一切,都是在鄙视大家的智商啊。从她跳出来发表声明,又回去删除旧帖,然后又穿上马甲来维护自己,夸自己美貌,然后被揭穿了又回去删除旧帖,然后又用马甲来维护自己,说自己日夜扑在工作上,然后被揭穿了又去问google快照,再被揭穿了又回去删除帖子,再被揭穿了还有脸来继续跳...你不觉得,稍微有点儿脑子的人,都不会这样吗?
所以啊,支持她维护她的人,也是一样的。他们根本不需要了解师太是不是真牛,而是只需要知道自己要达到什么效果就好了。所以有这样一封strong的信,就足够糊弄一些“有同情心”的人。至于证据吗,他们不care。
老实说,我觉得写那个英文信的仁兄,一定是个写推荐信的好手,当然,有人解释了,那是写评语练出来的,那估计也没少给NSF写review吧?
让你们这么一说,我得好好借鉴一下那封信了,最近正好要用recommendation,人家要自己先写一个draft,这是个不错的样本
这个video我没看过,懒得看,哈哈。
你都懒得了解第一手材料前面还说人家mm不读帖子发言自答自话?还费那么大劲儿专门跑MIT把给师太辩解的帖子搬过来?真有意思。。
让你们这么一说,我得好好借鉴一下那封信了,最近正好要用recommendation,人家要自己先写一个draft,这是个不错的样本
对,你仔细研究一下他用的词,好的推荐信就是需要这些词,虽然表达的意思类似,但是程度不同,又不重复,这是非常微妙的。不管是找工作,还是申请绿卡,或者申请funding,这些带-ly的词啊什么的,是非常有效果的。很多时候你有没有真货不重要,只要加上这些词,整体的感觉一下就提升了好几个层次。
对,你仔细研究一下他用的词,好的推荐信就是需要这些词,虽然表达的意思类似,但是程度不同,又不重复,这是非常微妙的。不管是找工作,还是申请绿卡,或者申请funding,这些带-ly的词啊什么的,是非常有效果的。很多时候你有没有真货不重要,只要加上这些词,整体的感觉一下就提升了好几个层次。
恩,收藏了
我没对ap失望,虽然我看不起她,但还比较佩服她竟然最终坚持走到现在这一步,除了造假以外,她的勇气值得学习. 但她的水平实在不应该走学术的路,虽然交际很重要,但基本素质还是要的.我觉得本科真的很重要,决定了一个人的眼界. 本科毕业你就能知道自己是不是研究这块料了. 沈妹妹没经过本科那种训练,没见识,自然以为学术的路好走.
完全同意
那封英文信不算有理有据啊,都对不上,一边说ap的presentation做的好,对自己工作了解有前瞻,一边又说自己不是这行,没法比较她的work和别人的,那所谓的前瞻是啥,是眼睛往前看吧,你都不了解那行了还知道人家的前瞻是啥啊。 后面又说人家微软请她做talk了所以就知道她不符合申请要求,这个搞笑了,请人做talk又不用背景调查,跟那个什么奖更没关系了,为啥评奖的人会因为这个talk了解她啊。
其实评奖的人都根本没有看她的资格问题,他们只是看她的学术水平
那你打击一片AP干啥啊?
因为看多了乱七八糟的AP们,心烦. 从崔教授开始,另外还知道一个正在离婚的极品男AP,也是计算机系的, 那事迹也是叹为观止. 再看看MIT上那些乱七八糟的老板和学生的纠纷. 还有海龟的帖子,觉得都是些什么人啊.
不是造假的勇气,而是出身这么低还勇于走学术的路. 我知道一个同济妹妹是同济排名第一的结构工程专业第一名毕业,本科和硕士都是保送的, 英语也很好,拿了美国博士学位后还是放弃了学术的路,因为觉得自己不是那块料,相比之下,叹之
我还有个朋友江苏省保送清华本科,然后清华研究生,然后约翰霍普金斯博士,然后博士后,现在都没有走学术的路,人家也是女的。。。
[此贴子已经被作者于2011/1/20 15:41:06编辑过]
可是你不觉得吗?师太做的这一切,都是在鄙视大家的智商啊。从她跳出来发表声明,又回去删除旧帖,然后又穿上马甲来维护自己,夸自己美貌,然后被揭穿了又回去删除旧帖,然后又用马甲来维护自己,说自己日夜扑在工作上,然后被揭穿了又去问google快照,再被揭穿了又回去删除帖子,再被揭穿了还有脸来继续跳...你不觉得,稍微有点儿脑子的人,都不会这样吗?
所以啊,支持她维护她的人,也是一样的。他们根本不需要了解师太是不是真牛,而是只需要知道自己要达到什么效果就好了。所以有这样一封strong的信,就足够糊弄一些“有同情心”的人。至于证据吗,他们不care。
这个总结不错
因为看多了乱七八糟的AP们,心烦. 从崔教授开始,另外还知道一个正在离婚的极品男AP,也是计算机系的, 那事迹也是叹为观止. 再看看MIT上那些乱七八糟的老板和学生的纠纷. 还有海龟的帖子,觉得都是些什么人啊.
恩,理解,很多教授,不只ap了,人品啥的确实值得推敲,但是学术上勤奋,做到基本的严谨诚实,是基本底线
你都懒得了解第一手材料前面还说人家mm不读帖子发言自答自话?还费那么大劲儿专门跑MIT把给师太辩解的帖子搬过来?真有意思。。
顺手帮个忙北,前面不是挺多转贴吗?本来这个video就是在微软作的presentation,虽然用的是IEEE paper的东西,但是两个场合不一样取舍内容自然就不会一样。我以为这个本来是很浅显的道理,就像同样是讲自己的research,毕业答辩跟找工作的侧重点不一样内容就会不同,出来混这么久了看菜下饭都不知道啊?
[此贴子已经被作者于2011/1/24 1:44:12编辑过]
因为看多了乱七八糟的AP们,心烦. 从崔教授开始,另外还知道一个正在离婚的极品男AP,也是计算机系的, 那事迹也是叹为观止. 再看看MIT上那些乱七八糟的老板和学生的纠纷. 还有海龟的帖子,觉得都是些什么人啊.
那也不代表所有的AP啊。
又是新ID...
发现新ID特别sympathetic...
呵呵,新吧?刚注册的马甲.当年 MIT上灵芝事件闹得惊天动地是就有我了.
顺手帮个忙北,前面不是挺多转贴吗?本来这个video就是在微软作的presentation,虽然用的是IEEE paper的东西,但是两个场合不一样取舍内容自然就不会一样。我以为这个本来是很浅显的道理,就像同样是讲自己的research,毕业答辩跟找工作的侧重点不一样内容就会不同,出来混这么久了看菜下饭都不知道啊?
你这不鄙视msr的人嘛,到这里就得浅显一点,呵呵
顺手帮个忙北,前面不是挺多转贴吗?本来这个video就是在微软作的presentation,虽然用的是IEEE paper的东西,但是两个场合不一样取舍内容自然就不会一样。我以为这个本来是很浅显的道理,就像同样是讲自己的research,毕业答辩跟找工作的侧重点不一样内容就会不同,出来混这么久了看菜下饭都不知道啊?
可是还信誓旦旦的批评别人不看贴就回贴,现在又找借口说这样的话。这种自圆其说的方式,和昨天师太讲是顺手帮个忙替“师太的学生招生”一样没有说服力。
顺手帮个忙北,前面不是挺多转贴吗?本来这个video就是在微软作的presentation,虽然用的是IEEE paper的东西,但是两个场合不一样取舍内容自然就不会一样。我以为这个本来是很浅显的道理,就像同样是讲自己的research,毕业答辩跟找工作的侧重点不一样内容就会不同,出来混这么久了看菜下饭都不知道啊?
你看了就知道她的问题就是她没有看菜下饭,很初级的东西讲了半天,当然可能师太只有一份饭,不吃没得吃,只好硬着头皮端出来。。
你看了就知道她的问题就是她没有看菜下饭,很初级的东西讲了半天,当然可能师太只有一份饭,不吃没得吃,只好硬着头皮端出来。。
我就奇怪她咋就敢去?
你看了就知道她的问题就是她没有看菜下饭,很初级的东西讲了半天,当然可能师太只有一份饭,不吃没得吃,只好硬着头皮端出来。。
咳,都跟你说了,挺师太的人,不需要看,只需要立场的。
发信人: iigao (BBC), 信区: Family
标 题: Re: 沈教授在微软讲学的录像
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jan 20 14:46:55 2011, 美东)
看45分钟以后的讨论,沈教授的确水平不行。问题回答不到点子上,完全被提问的人压
制住了。无关英语,知识面窄,工作做得不扎实。
这样的演讲也就博一的水平吧。
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发信人: chriscow (奶牛肉倒三角!专拍极品!), 信区: Family
标 题: Re: 沈教授在微软讲学的录像
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jan 20 15:41:31 2011, 美东)
看她回答那个横条tshirt白人的问题...竟然要翻到对应的slide上面才能看着上面的字
来回答...看得出来对"自己"的work究竟有多熟悉
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发信人: chriscow (奶牛肉倒三角!专拍极品!), 信区: Family
标 题: Re: 沈教授在微软讲学的录像
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jan 20 01:45:20 2011, 美东)
好无聊的talk...
超过一半时间在讲related work...
后面自己的scheme也挺simple
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要 搬MIT的言论就多搬的呗:
发信人: iigao (BBC), 信区: Family
标 题: Re: 沈教授在微软讲学的录像
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jan 20 14:46:55 2011, 美东)
看45分钟以后的讨论,沈教授的确水平不行。问题回答不到点子上,完全被提问的人压
制住了。无关英语,知识面窄,工作做得不扎实。
这样的演讲也就博一的水平吧。
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发信人: chriscow (奶牛肉倒三角!专拍极品!), 信区: Family
标 题: Re: 沈教授在微软讲学的录像
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jan 20 15:41:31 2011, 美东)
看她回答那个横条tshirt白人的问题...竟然要翻到对应的slide上面才能看着上面的字
来回答...看得出来对"自己"的work究竟有多熟悉
==============================================
发信人: chriscow (奶牛肉倒三角!专拍极品!), 信区: Family
标 题: Re: 沈教授在微软讲学的录像
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jan 20 01:45:20 2011, 美东)
好无聊的talk...
超过一半时间在讲related work...
后面自己的scheme也挺simple
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对吧?说了他们只需要立场。选择性的。
发信人: wqb (whatever), 信区: Family
标 题: Re: 沈教授在微软讲学的录像
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jan 20 14:11:42 2011, 美东)
我没说清楚吗?我知道照片是1984年排的。
李劲1987年进清华,当时他只是初中生或高一,体重超过二百磅。我进清华时他还在读
博士,但也才不到20岁,体形依然庞大,在校园里非常醒目。现在的他明显瘦下来了:
) 据说人家多次拒绝邀请来美读书,不管是大学还是研究生,坚持要读清华的博士。
尽管他现在成绩斐然,可是谁知道如果他来美国读博,会不会有更大成就?我是不是泄
漏了我的年龄了:(
谁有华人帐号,请帮个忙,把我的帖子#58转过去,谢谢!
【 在 chriscow (奶牛肉倒三角!专拍极品!) 的大作中提到: 】
: 这不是废话吗。拍照时人家还只是中学生
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以下是引用lovedavid在1/20/2011 3:44:00 PM的发言:
这个wqb是USC的,那个AP有个co-author,Prof Kai Hwang 也是USC,又是个老台湾人,不知道这个wqb是不是Prof Hwang的学生来抱打不平了。。。
以下是引用lovedavid在1/20/2011 3:47:00 PM的发言:
你看了就知道她的问题就是她没有看菜下饭,很初级的东西讲了半天,当然可能师太只有一份饭,不吃没得吃,只好硬着头皮端出来。。
发信人: wqb (whatever), 信区: Family
标 题: Re: 沈教授在微软讲学的录像
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jan 20 14:11:42 2011, 美东)
我没说清楚吗?我知道照片是1984年排的。
李劲1987年进清华,当时他只是初中生或高一,体重超过二百磅。我进清华时他还在读
博士,但也才不到20岁,体形依然庞大,在校园里非常醒目。现在的他明显瘦下来了:
) 据说人家多次拒绝邀请来美读书,不管是大学还是研究生,坚持要读清华的博士。
尽管他现在成绩斐然,可是谁知道如果他来美国读博,会不会有更大成就?我是不是泄
漏了我的年龄了:(
谁有华人帐号,请帮个忙,把我的帖子#58转过去,谢谢!
【 在 chriscow (奶牛肉倒三角!专拍极品!) 的大作中提到: 】
: 这不是废话吗。拍照时人家还只是中学生
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这个wqb是USC的,那个AP有个co-author,Prof Kai Hwang 也是USC,又是个老台湾人,不知道这个wqb是不是Prof Hwang的学生来抱打不平了。。。
那这个wqb比师太稍微大几岁哦。
呵呵,新吧?刚注册的马甲.当年 MIT上灵芝事件闹得惊天动地是就有我了.
另外我不同情沈妹妹,咎由自取. 只可惜同济老出这种不清不白的名气.为母校悲哀. 沈妹妹如果真是Professional Faculty Education Class Rank 1, 就应该在简历中注明,既好看,又不误会
以下是引用lovedavid在1/20/2011 3:47:00 PM的发言:
你看了就知道她的问题就是她没有看菜下饭,很初级的东西讲了半天,当然可能师太只有一份饭,不吃没得吃,只好硬着头皮端出来。。
那现在砸了没有呢?看看台下的学生们的表情...
另外我不同情沈妹妹,咎由自取. 只可惜同济老出这种不清不白的名气.为母校悲哀. 沈妹妹如果真是Professional Faculty Education Class Rank 1, 就应该在简历中注明,既好看,又不误会
她这样写就不好看了,因为她claim说自己正宗CSE科班出身的,怎么能提Professional Faculty Education这个茬。
发信人: wqb (whatever), 信区: Family
标 题: Re: 沈教授在微软讲学的录像
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jan 20 14:11:42 2011, 美东)
我没说清楚吗?我知道照片是1984年排的。
李劲1987年进清华,当时他只是初中生或高一,体重超过二百磅。我进清华时他还在读
博士,但也才不到20岁,体形依然庞大,在校园里非常醒目。现在的他明显瘦下来了:
) 据说人家多次拒绝邀请来美读书,不管是大学还是研究生,坚持要读清华的博士。
尽管他现在成绩斐然,可是谁知道如果他来美国读博,会不会有更大成就?我是不是泄
漏了我的年龄了:(
谁有华人帐号,请帮个忙,把我的帖子#58转过去,谢谢!
【 在 chriscow (奶牛肉倒三角!专拍极品!) 的大作中提到: 】
: 这不是废话吗。拍照时人家还只是中学生
--
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这个wqb是USC的,那个AP有个co-author,Prof Kai Hwang 也是USC,又是个老台湾人,不知道这个wqb是不是Prof Hwang的学生来抱打不平了。。。
这个人完全是在瞎扯
哪位好心人把strong推荐信给我开开眼吧,楼太高,没找到
7803 楼
7803 楼
大谢~~前去拜读
[此贴子已经被作者于2011/1/24 1:43:22编辑过]
那这个wqb比师太稍微大几岁哦。
也可能差不多年纪。
也可能差不多年纪。
原来也是个神童呀。
以下是引用trayanh在1/20/2011 2:24:00 PM的发言:
发信人: wqb (whatever), 信区: Family
标 题: Re: 沈教授在微软讲学的录像
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jan 20 04:53:59 2011, 美东)
不要扫了大姐的兴,Melinda6是个好人:) 大姐是Argonne的吗?
Now I have my comments on Shen AP's talk, after killing more than one hour
of my good sleep time:(. Someone can forward this to huaren. I browsed a
couple of pages there and found all of those posters have no knowledge of
academic research and the particular field, but quite enjoying slinging mud
onto other people.
Accent aside, Shen Haiying is an experienced presenter, who spoke in a
steady speed with proper emphasis at critical points. She clearly presented
her work, and interacted with the audience nicely during the Q&As. It was a
nice talk, though not the best I have been to by a Chinese AP.
From their interaction, the situation seemed like she was attending a
conference in Seattle area, and made an excursion to MSR to talk with the
interested group. Hence, the sparse audience.
Shen evidently knows her field very well, and has good insights. I am not
directly in the P2P field, so I can not compare her work with her competing
peers. But looks to me, MSR people recognized her work. The host, 李劲, who
manages MSR's communication system team, is one of the most talented Chinese
folks of his time, maybe even until now.
Noted that her talk took place in September 2009, after she moved to Clemson
, but before she was awarded the faculty fellowship from Microsoft Research.
So it can be reasonably assumed that Microsoft people is aware of her
organization change and tenure-tracked years. I wouldn't be worried about
the challenge on her eligibility for the award.
Briefly skimming over her publication list (a very impressive one to me), I
found some of her collaborators has been serving as NSF director (Huaren
DaMa's may add one more charge to her crime:). My feeling is Prof. Shen is
well established in her field and well recognized by her peers. She should be ab
le to have a successful career.
BTW, I didn't know the shitty place as huaren before this event. Really eye-wide
-opening!
【 在 DirkNowitzki (诺维茨基) 的大作中提到: 】
: 网络研究了那么多年,现在很难玩出什么新东西
另外我不同情沈妹妹,咎由自取. 只可惜同济老出这种不清不白的名气.为母校悲哀. 沈妹妹如果真是Professional Faculty Education Class Rank 1, 就应该在简历中注明,既好看,又不误会
同济以前还有过大专毕业然后同等学历考上的研究生,大专翻译出来好像是什么special education之类的,都是十年前的事情了,好像就是学结构之类的。
原来也是个神童呀。
李劲5年本科下来就是92年了,读博期间不就是92到97吗?
以下是引用trayanh在1/20/2011 2:24:00 PM的发言:
发信人: wqb (whatever), 信区: Family
标 题: Re: 沈教授在微软讲学的录像
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jan 20 04:53:59 2011, 美东)
不要扫了大姐的兴,Melinda6是个好人:) 大姐是Argonne的吗?
Now I have my comments on Shen AP's talk, after killing more than one hour
of my good sleep time:(. Someone can forward this to huaren. I browsed a
couple of pages there and found all of those posters have no knowledge of
academic research and the particular field, but quite enjoying slinging mud
onto other people.
Accent aside, Shen Haiying is an experienced presenter, who spoke in a
steady speed with proper emphasis at critical points. She clearly presented
her work, and interacted with the audience nicely during the Q&As. It was a
nice talk, though not the best I have been to by a Chinese AP.
From their interaction, the situation seemed like she was attending a
conference in Seattle area, and made an excursion to MSR to talk with the
interested group. Hence, the sparse audience.
Shen evidently knows her field very well, and has good insights. I am not
directly in the P2P field, so I can not compare her work with her competing
peers. But looks to me, MSR people recognized her work. The host, 李劲, who
manages MSR's communication system team, is one of the most talented Chinese
folks of his time, maybe even until now.
Noted that her talk took place in September 2009, after she moved to Clemson
, but before she was awarded the faculty fellowship from Microsoft Research.
So it can be reasonably assumed that Microsoft people is aware of her
organization change and tenure-tracked years. I wouldn't be worried about
the challenge on her eligibility for the award.
Briefly skimming over her publication list (a very impressive one to me), I
found some of her collaborators has been serving as NSF director (Huaren
DaMa's may add one more charge to her crime:). My feeling is Prof. Shen is
well established in her field and well recognized by her peers. She should be ab
le to have a successful career.
BTW, I didn't know the shitty place as huaren before this event. Really eye-wide
-opening!
【 在 DirkNowitzki (诺维茨基) 的大作中提到: 】
: 网络研究了那么多年,现在很难玩出什么新东西
唉呀妈呀
以下是引用heleven在1/20/2011 4:18:00 PM的发言:
以下是引用trayanh在1/20/2011 2:24:00 PM的发言:
发信人: wqb (whatever), 信区: Family
标 题: Re: 沈教授在微软讲学的录像
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jan 20 04:53:59 2011, 美东)
不要扫了大姐的兴,Melinda6是个好人:) 大姐是Argonne的吗?
Now I have my comments on Shen AP's talk, after killing more than one hour
of my good sleep time:(. Someone can forward this to huaren. I browsed a
couple of pages there and found all of those posters have no knowledge of
academic research and the particular field, but quite enjoying slinging mud
onto other people.
Accent aside, Shen Haiying is an experienced presenter, who spoke in a
steady speed with proper emphasis at critical points. She clearly presented
her work, and interacted with the audience nicely during the Q&As. It was a
nice talk, though not the best I have been to by a Chinese AP.
From their interaction, the situation seemed like she was attending a
conference in Seattle area, and made an excursion to MSR to talk with the
interested group. Hence, the sparse audience.
Shen evidently knows her field very well, and has good insights. I am not
directly in the P2P field, so I can not compare her work with her competing
peers. But looks to me, MSR people recognized her work. The host, 李劲, who
manages MSR's communication system team, is one of the most talented Chinese
folks of his time, maybe even until now.
Noted that her talk took place in September 2009, after she moved to Clemson
, but before she was awarded the faculty fellowship from Microsoft Research.
So it can be reasonably assumed that Microsoft people is aware of her
organization change and tenure-tracked years. I wouldn't be worried about
the challenge on her eligibility for the award.
Briefly skimming over her publication list (a very impressive one to me), I
found some of her collaborators has been serving as NSF director (Huaren
DaMa's may add one more charge to her crime:). My feeling is Prof. Shen is
well established in her field and well recognized by her peers. She should be ab
le to have a successful career.
BTW, I didn't know the shitty place as huaren before this event. Really eye-wide
-opening!
【 在 DirkNowitzki (诺维茨基) 的大作中提到: 】
: 网络研究了那么多年,现在很难玩出什么新东西
要 搬MIT的言论就多搬的呗:
发信人: iigao (BBC), 信区: Family
标 题: Re: 沈教授在微软讲学的录像
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jan 20 14:46:55 2011, 美东)
看45分钟以后的讨论,沈教授的确水平不行。问题回答不到点子上,完全被提问的人压
制住了。无关英语,知识面窄,工作做得不扎实。
这样的演讲也就博一的水平吧。
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发信人: chriscow (奶牛肉倒三角!专拍极品!), 信区: Family
标 题: Re: 沈教授在微软讲学的录像
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jan 20 15:41:31 2011, 美东)
看她回答那个横条tshirt白人的问题...竟然要翻到对应的slide上面才能看着上面的字
来回答...看得出来对"自己"的work究竟有多熟悉
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发信人: chriscow (奶牛肉倒三角!专拍极品!), 信区: Family
标 题: Re: 沈教授在微软讲学的录像
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jan 20 01:45:20 2011, 美东)
好无聊的talk...
超过一半时间在讲related work...
后面自己的scheme也挺simple
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这信里语法错误也一大堆好伐。。。这是同病相怜死撑同类的意思么?
7803 楼
7看看。。。。。
就这样的英文还去欺负秋大妈。。。真想骂人!
其实也不能这么说,我完全可以理解女教授为什么需要婚姻拿绿卡。
那位奋力为女教授开脱的ID说的,不对,女教授在2006年的时候,还什么都不是呢,没有PAPER,没有引用,没有奖,没有媒体曝光,凭什么拿EB1A?她那个时候默默无闻,谁给她写推荐信?就是后来找工作有那么strong的推荐信,也是跳槽的时候才有的。那年头,EB1A也不是那么容易的。
re
以下是引用trayanh在1/20/2011 2:24:00 PM的发言:
发信人: wqb (whatever), 信区: Family
标 题: Re: 沈教授在微软讲学的录像
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jan 20 04:53:59 2011, 美东)
不要扫了大姐的兴,Melinda6是个好人:) 大姐是Argonne的吗?
Now I have my comments on Shen AP's talk, after killing more than one hour
of my good sleep time:(. Someone can forward this to huaren. I browsed a
couple of pages there and found all of those posters have no knowledge of
academic research and the particular field, but quite enjoying slinging mud
onto other people.
Accent aside, Shen Haiying is an experienced presenter, who spoke in a
steady speed with proper emphasis at critical points. She clearly presented
her work, and interacted with the audience nicely during the Q&As. It was a
nice talk, though not the best I have been to by a Chinese AP.
From their interaction, the situation seemed like she was attending a
conference in Seattle area, and made an excursion to MSR to talk with the
interested group. Hence, the sparse audience.
Shen evidently knows her field very well, and has good insights. I am not
directly in the P2P field, so I can not compare her work with her competing
peers. But looks to me, MSR people recognized her work. The host, 李劲, who
manages MSR's communication system team, is one of the most talented Chinese
folks of his time, maybe even until now.
Noted that her talk took place in September 2009, after she moved to Clemson
, but before she was awarded the faculty fellowship from Microsoft Research.
So it can be reasonably assumed that Microsoft people is aware of her
organization change and tenure-tracked years. I wouldn't be worried about
the challenge on her eligibility for the award.
Briefly skimming over her publication list (a very impressive one to me), I
found some of her collaborators has been serving as NSF director (Huaren
DaMa's may add one more charge to her crime:). My feeling is Prof. Shen is
well established in her field and well recognized by her peers. She should be ab
le to have a successful career.
BTW, I didn't know the shitty place as huaren before this event. Really eye-wide
-opening!
【 在 DirkNowitzki (诺维茨基) 的大作中提到: 】
: 网络研究了那么多年,现在很难玩出什么新东西
说沈妹妹水平差,人家也拿了博士学位. Qualify和Defence怎么过的?博士和硕士还是有很大区别的啊.只能说WSU比较水,让这样的人也过. 和沈妹妹关系也不大,WSU不会承认他们的博士学位是水货的.
至于她现在的学校,人家也不会承认自己识人不明,毕竟也是面试过的,不是看她本科学历给她ap的,人家说她当时就是面试表现好,你也没办法. FUNDING我不清楚,这中间太多猜测,没有有力证据,MS的奖我估计也会不了了之, ms不会说自己的奖发错了. 大家都工作过,没人愿意自己打自己的脸,靠这些学校和MS自己去查是没戏的. 只有第三方来捅了.
看来看去, 我觉得美国和中国一样,都是骗子的天堂. 沈妹妹学术水平不高,但骗术很高.象韦小宝一样,十句真话夹一句关键的假话, 让你觉得就是不对,但抓她的辫子也抓不着.
以下是引用healthy在1/20/2011 4:31:00 PM的发言:
以下是引用KaraOK在1/20/2011 1:22:00 PM的发言:
其实也不能这么说,我完全可以理解女教授为什么需要婚姻拿绿卡。
那位奋力为女教授开脱的ID说的,不对,女教授在2006年的时候,还什么都不是呢,没有PAPER,没有引用,没有奖,没有媒体曝光,凭什么拿EB1A?她那个时候默默无闻,谁给她写推荐信?就是后来找工作有那么strong的推荐信,也是跳槽的时候才有的。那年头,EB1A也不是那么容易的。
re
这信里语法错误也一大堆好伐。。。这是同病相怜死撑同类的意思么?
以下是引用斯文在1/20/2011 12:53:00 AM的发言:
就这样的英文还去欺负秋大妈。。。真想骂人!
IMO, there is a good 50% chance that nothing much will happen. The only long-term damage to the AP is that it will be harder to attract Chinese students in the future.
But again, that alone may be a 重创 to her. Just look at her student list.
以下是引用yurenwuzhi在1/20/2011 4:33:00 PM的发言:
大家想过没有到底要把沈妹妹怎么样?目前唯一有问题的是她的简历中的本科专业. 但另外按有些人说的其实也是真的本科,专业也是一样,就是班级素质差. 沈妹妹故意混淆概念. 这也拿不上台面去讲啊. 谁能把这个和老美解释清楚? 说实话这里大部分中国人自己都搞不清楚, 只知道这种班水平差,但美国没有班级这种对应的概念啊. 大家一个学校一个专业的人除了成绩以外还有班级的差别,我都觉得好笑. 真是烦死这种乱七八糟的教育改革了.
说沈妹妹水平差,人家也拿了博士学位. Qualify和Defence怎么过的?博士和硕士还是有很大区别的啊.只能说WSU比较水,让这样的人也过. 和沈妹妹关系也不大,WSU不会承认他们的博士学位是水货的.
至于她现在的学校,人家也不会承认自己识人不明,毕竟也是面试过的,不是看她本科学历给她ap的,人家说她当时就是面试表现好,你也没办法. FUNDING我不清楚,这中间太多猜测,没有有力证据,MS的奖我估计也会不了了之, ms不会说自己的奖发错了. 大家都工作过,没人愿意自己打自己的脸,靠这些学校和MS自己去查是没戏的. 只有第三方来捅了.
看来看去, 我觉得美国和中国一样,都是骗子的天堂. 沈妹妹学术水平不高,但骗术很高.象韦小宝一样,十句真话夹一句关键的假话, 让你觉得就是不对,但抓她的辫子也抓不着.
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那封英文信不算有理有据啊,都对不上,一边说ap的presentation做的好,对自己工作了解有前瞻,一边又说自己不是这行,没法比较她的work和别人的,那所谓的前瞻是啥,是眼睛往前看吧,你都不了解那行了还知道人家的前瞻是啥啊。 后面又说人家微软请她做talk了所以就知道她不符合申请要求,这个搞笑了,请人做talk又不用背景调查,跟那个什么奖更没关系了,为啥评奖的人会因为这个talk了解她啊。
我也想知道,都不是同行,怎么知道ap对自己工作有前瞻。不是做这行的人怎么判断这个?
如果是自己sponsor,才不得不走EB1A,如果公司/学校sponsor,那就是EB1B,是最容易的category,比NIW都容易多了,基本都不需要paper。
Such blatant lies! Go check the immigration board on MITBBS. Nearly every case involves # of papers, # of reviews, awards etc...
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请人做talk,组办方要做介绍,你不给他们一个简历,他们拿什么给你做介绍?总不能让主办方人肉你吧?
不是这样的阿,你也要有相当数量的论文,有很强的推荐信,有自己的分析自己的不可替代性阿
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WOW
37万人次?还是37万unique visitor?
Again, WOW.
我年纪大了,看点短篇还行,呵呵。不过既然host是李劲,不大会随便放水吧?岂不是砸了微软招牌。
以下是引用lovedavid在1/20/2011 3:47:00 PM的发言:
你看了就知道她的问题就是她没有看菜下饭,很初级的东西讲了半天,当然可能师太只有一份饭,不吃没得吃,只好硬着头皮端出来。。
你们说是不是,用这样地英文去羞辱秋大妈,自己还是身为第三者的有夫之妇,还为人师表!!!!
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这个就是我在移民版调研的结果。EB1A要求很高,NIW次之,最容易的是EB1B。为什么很多人走前两条是因为不是很多公司愿意sponsor EB1B。如果背景比较好又自己觉得不够EB1A,有时候走NIW说不定还悲剧。
就象大家说的,沈妹妹的英语,学术,人品都很差,那又有什么用呢,即使挖出秋大爷和沈妹妹在MS和NSF幕后的黑手,也没用,没听说私生活影响拿人下马的,最大的突破口是桃色交易,但这事到哪去找证据啊
请人做talk,组办方要做介绍,你不给他们一个简历,他们拿什么给你做介绍?总不能让主办方人肉你吧?
介绍你现在在哪里工作啊,一般也不会介绍以前做了哪些工作吧,再说了,简历是自己写的。
谁知道大教授是不是自己拿着nsf funding的钱来碰微软的大门
这个就是我在移民版调研的结果。EB1A要求很高,NIW次之,最容易的是EB1B。为什么很多人走前两条是因为不是很多公司愿意sponsor EB1B。如果背景比较好又自己觉得不够EB1A,有时候走NIW说不定还悲剧。
hehe, you said EB1b hardly need any paper in your last post.
If that's your conclusion from research on the Mitbbs immigration board, I really doubt your research ability...
这个就是我在移民版调研的结果。EB1A要求很高,NIW次之,最容易的是EB1B。为什么很多人走前两条是因为不是很多公司愿意sponsor EB1B。如果背景比较好又自己觉得不够EB1A,有时候走NIW说不定还悲剧。
别说eb1b什么都不用好不好,你去研究一下,eb1a是要有三个方面很突出才行,eb1b是两个,只少一个,不是一个都不要,你真会睁眼说瞎话呢。
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以下是引用healthy在1/20/2011 4:31:00 PM的发言:
以下是引用KaraOK在1/20/2011 1:22:00 PM的发言:
其实也不能这么说,我完全可以理解女教授为什么需要婚姻拿绿卡。
那位奋力为女教授开脱的ID说的,不对,女教授在2006年的时候,还什么都不是呢,没有PAPER,没有引用,没有奖,没有媒体曝光,凭什么拿EB1A?她那个时候默默无闻,谁给她写推荐信?就是后来找工作有那么strong的推荐信,也是跳槽的时候才有的。那年头,EB1A也不是那么容易的。
re
你也太逗了。帮师太讲话也不能这么不顾事实吧?即使是EB1B,也不是无条件的,何况她不是研究所,她是在学校耶2006年她就算有正式教职,也就是新人而已,有几个学校会给新faculty办EB1B?她要办也得行好不好?你是不是行内的啊?再说就真的露怯了。
why don't you check this out? Eb1b hardly need any paper?
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Immigration/31876287.html
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真是言多必失的典范。
这个就是我在移民版调研的结果。EB1A要求很高,NIW次之,最容易的是EB1B。为什么很多人走前两条是因为不是很多公司愿意sponsor EB1B。如果背景比较好又自己觉得不够EB1A,有时候走NIW说不定还悲剧。
那为啥很多人不去申请eb1b呢?据我所知大多数研究机构,高校都支持eb1b阿