1. 小新推荐(1493楼): 李翊云的书,缺点是可能没有电子版 2. summer推荐:万物简史,英文名“a short history of nearly everything”,有英文电子书 3. Jolin推荐 (1572楼):李笑来:《把时间当朋友》,有多个格式的电子版 4.teawhy推荐(1722楼):我推荐哈佛美女物理教授Lisa Randall的很有名的一本书,Warped Passages: Unraveling the Mysteries of the Universe's Hidden Dimensions 5. red推荐:《把时间当朋友》里常提到的柳比谢夫《奇特的一生》,不过技术性比较高、文学性有待讨论
man... inflation comes and goes, just like everything else... business cycle comes and goes, recession comes and goes. i am just facinated by it..... love comes and goes, life comes and goes. gosh, this is pretty a ....
抓住.上次你说Google video 来着, 怎么用? 我昨晚下载了一个Image search app for my touch. this is the only time i wish i had an ipad.. image is a little too small on the touch...
抓住.上次你说Google video 来着, 怎么用? 我昨晚下载了一个Image search app for my touch. this is the only time i wish i had an ipad.. image is a little too small on the touch...
你对心理学感兴趣-》想转行-》告诉你爸-》。。。 it's a huge waste of time (5yr phd in neuroscience+5yr maybe more for psychology). ->Of course my being single and unaccomplished at this age came up. ->And my mediocre (?) interpersonal skills too. ->Am I be unrealistic? -》Do I really wanna switch or just using psychology/interest as an excuse not to face the real life? -》Should I pursue what "I think" I love or try to do better with what I have? -》 I indeed didn't do well in the current phd study, so maybe I won't do well in another major either, especially with my poor interpersonal skills. -》 orz 其实就是一件小事啊,怎么扯了这么十万八千里去了 It seems like what stressed you out is that you feel frustrated that your idea was turned down. What you seem to want is to learn psychology, so what alternatives do you have besides getting a PhD in psychology after getting the first one? For example, taking class, reading related literatures, talking with ppl, etc? [/power=5] [此贴子已经被作者于2010/10/29 13:35:45编辑过]
拿 ah, job hunting and everything. I just feel that it'll probably be necessary for me to go back to school in the future, and I want to have the option... 现在的phd不拿了么?毕竟是读了5年,拿了也是给自己一个交代吧。
man, i have been thinking how far gold can go. this impulsive idea of yours makes me think the top is near if not in [此贴子已经被作者于2010/10/29 13:44:21编辑过] no, the idea was like 6 months old already. so probably it's already top or passed it.
拿 ah, job hunting and everything. I just feel that it'll probably be necessary for me to go back to school in the future, and I want to have the option...
the alternative would be I try to be a professor (working psychology-related projects with anmials), which I highly doubt I have what it takes...
why do you must be a professor? can you be a research scientist first? What is it that you care more/ what matters most? doing something you like? Or getting an approved career? or something else? you need to make a pick, not about psychology, but about these generic questions. Also, maybe beware of the pitfall of "all or nothing".
可不可以找一个POSTDOC的职位把你的背景和心理学联系起来呢?也许有的LAB很欢迎你这样有BENCH WORK背景的人呢? that's what I'm trying to find. but the thing is, if I think I can do well in clinical psych, I'll surely go for this kind of postdoc. If I can't, and I doubt that I can become a research professor (writing grants and socialize etc), I'd better go for postdoc that leads to industry orz....
that's what I'm trying to find. but the thing is, if I think I can do well in clinical psych, I'll surely go for this kind of postdoc. If I can't, and I doubt that I can become a research professor (writing grants and socialize etc), I'd better go for postdoc that leads to industry orz....
I don't think you can change the probability of the outcome by feeling stressed out, right? So what can you do to make things go the way you want it to go?
Thanks for sharing. That's the best sceniro in my plan too. I guess the main thing that set me off was the perception of "I can't have the option of xxxx"...need to think over it
why do you must be a professor? can you be a research scientist first? What is it that you care more/ what matters most? doing something you like? Or getting an approved career? or something else? you need to make a pick, not about psychology, but about these generic questions. Also, maybe beware of the pitfall of "all or nothing".
Thanks xiao xin. I mean eventually a professor. Can one be a research scientist forever? The important thing is that professor can schedule things around his/her own agend..not entirely, but more than postdocs and employees do. I believed that doing things I like is the No.2, financial survival is No. 1. But everytime I talked to my parents, they discard the "interest" idea with "their experience over all these years". orz I'm such a sucker for "all or nothing" -_-b
I don't think you can change the probability of the outcome by feeling stressed out, right? So what can you do to make things go the way you want it to go?
gave me heartache and goose bumps. thanks xiao xin! I've never thought of that
Thanks xiao xin. I mean eventually a professor. Can one be a research scientist forever? The important thing is that professor can schedule things around his/her own agend..not entirely, but more than postdocs and employees do. I believed that doing things I like is the No.2, financial survival is No. 1. But everytime I talked to my parents, they discard the "interest" idea with "their experience over all these years". orz I'm such a sucker for "all or nothing" -_-b
以下是引用冬日阳光灿烂在10/29/2010 1:51:00 PM的发言: the reason is shameful. I thought if I need a PHD degree to get job I want in psych (indeed, according to what I've seen lately), I might need money to cover tuition. I might need their money then. well, I guess I can use student loan? non resident can do that?
Thanks xiao xin. I mean eventually a professor. Can one be a research scientist forever? The important thing is that professor can schedule things around his/her own agend..not entirely, but more than postdocs and employees do. I believed that doing things I like is the No.2, financial survival is No. 1. But everytime I talked to my parents, they discard the "interest" idea with "their experience over all these years". orz I'm such a sucker for "all or nothing" -_-b
the reason is shameful. I thought if I need a PHD degree to get job I want in psych (indeed, according to what I've seen lately), I might need money to cover tuition. I might need their money then. well, I guess I can use student loan? non resident can do that?
man, lucky you . my parents wont pay my US tuition... hehe ....
再说一个,很多人对心理学的兴趣,是开始于一些personal experience,但是一旦要做研究,在这个领域要特别注意研究的科学性,要own your work,但是又不take it personal。时刻注意不能让自己的personal bias影响你的工作, 现在很多心理学研究有好想法,但是因为实验不够严谨,结果经常被质疑。因为这个,我觉得读心理学的难度是比一些其他学科要大很多的。这个难度,比语言难度还要大很多,你看容格写红书就知道。那都是呕心沥血。
再说一个,很多人对心理学的兴趣,是开始于一些personal experience,但是一旦要做研究,在这个领域要特别注意研究的科学性,要own your work,但是又不take it personal。时刻注意不能让自己的personal bias影响你的工作, 现在很多心理学研究有好想法,但是因为实验不够严谨,结果经常被质疑。因为这个,我觉得读心理学的难度是比一些其他学科要大很多的。这个难度,比语言难度还要大很多,你看容格写红书就知道。那都是呕心沥血。
严重同意。。。。 red 你把那个红宝书看了, 再说? 正好给我们做个报告。。我对那本书及其感兴趣, 但是一翻开头就疼。。。非常非常的rich 和intense...及其少见, 从没见过
“Teaching how to fax is about the equivalent of teaching people how to ride a dinosaur. Both seem to rank high on the stupid scale.” [此贴子已经被作者于2010/10/29 15:04:39编辑过]
that's one of the "false ideas" my fear I don't know and I feel more like "I can't feed myself" than "I don't want to feed myself"... [此贴子已经被作者于2010/10/29 17:43:42编辑过]
both...I guess I'm still not sure whether I can do well in psychology, especially after I saw nearly all clinical jobs requires US residency at least. Therefore their doubt about me brought up the doubt in myself. So, 父母的不支持 leads to 苦恼换不换专业. My thinking is, they've been watching me doing things for 20 yrs, they've been doing things in the real world themselves. They probably know better whether I'd survive in something or not...
严重同意。。。。 red 你把那个红宝书看了, 再说? 正好给我们做个报告。。我对那本书及其感兴趣, 但是一翻开头就疼。。。非常非常的rich 和intense...及其少见, 从没见过[此贴子已经被作者于2010/10/29 14:17:00编辑过] that's another problem of me...as Xiaolai Li said, the feeling of time-is-running-up...I do love to read it though...
以下是引用xinlaide在10/29/2010 2:14:00 PM的发言: 再说一个,很多人对心理学的兴趣,是开始于一些personal experience,但是一旦要做研究,在这个领域要特别注意研究的科学性,要own your work,但是又不take it personal。时刻注意不能让自己的personal bias影响你的工作, 现在很多心理学研究有好想法,但是因为实验不够严谨,结果经常被质疑。因为这个,我觉得读心理学的难度是比一些其他学科要大很多的。这个难度,比语言难度还要大很多,你看容格写红书就知道。那都是呕心沥血。 that's why I was going for clinical/counselling psychology first...I'm not that good at real research.
http://bbs.8264.com/thread-512349-1-1.html
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大家快点投票吧,下个月读什么书?我可以接着当书老大。不过这个月经营得很冷清。。。
早上好!
大家快点投票吧,下个月读什么书?我可以接着当书老大。不过这个月经营得很冷清。。。
早上好
这个月大水车都潜水了
我推荐一本,《把时间当朋友》里常提到的柳比谢夫《奇特的一生》,不过技术性比较高、文学性有待讨论
下月书推荐(推荐、投票、自荐书老大,请发短信给书老大,书老大就不用爬楼了,谢谢!)
对于推荐的书目,在楼里有更详细的介绍。
1. 小新推荐(1493楼): 李翊云的书,缺点是可能没有电子版
2. summer推荐:万物简史,英文名“a short history of nearly everything”,有英文电子书
3. Jolin推荐 (1572楼):李笑来:《把时间当朋友》,有多个格式的电子版
4.teawhy推荐(1722楼):我推荐哈佛美女物理教授Lisa Randall的很有名的一本书,Warped Passages: Unraveling the Mysteries of the Universe's Hidden Dimensions 5. red推荐:《把时间当朋友》里常提到的柳比谢夫《奇特的一生》,不过技术性比较高、文学性有待讨论
占百楼总结名单
1600 阿妙
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http://www.pbc.gov.cn/publish/html/2009s07.htm
http://www.pbc.gov.cn/publish/html/2010s07.htm
我妈今年年初就开始和我说, 钱不值钱了。。。 我还心说呢, RMB对美元涨啊。。。 今天早上看, 国内物价问题真是很厉害啊。。。 这个对内的大幅贬值, 让我想起来90年代初。。我妈屯肥皂呢。。。现在恐怕还有没用完的。。。美国印钞票, 物价不涨, 中国印钞票, 物价飞涨。。。
http://www.pbc.gov.cn/publish/html/2009s07.htm
http://www.pbc.gov.cn/publish/html/2010s07.htm
Have no idea how to deal with it. waiting to die
早上好
这个月大水车都潜水了
我推荐一本,《把时间当朋友》里常提到的柳比谢夫《奇特的一生》,不过技术性比较高、文学性有待讨论
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hand,我刚想log in了想推荐这一本。看了点开头,很有兴趣这个人的生活。
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我妈今年年初就开始和我说, 钱不值钱了。。。 我还心说呢, RMB对美元涨啊。。。 今天早上看, 国内物价问题真是很厉害啊。。。 这个对内的大幅贬值, 让我想起来90年代初。。我妈屯肥皂呢。。。现在恐怕还有没用完的。。。美国印钞票, 物价不涨, 中国印钞票, 物价飞涨。。。
http://www.pbc.gov.cn/publish/html/2009s07.htm
http://www.pbc.gov.cn/publish/html/2010s07.htm
和90年代初那次通胀比怎么样啊?
我推荐一本,《把时间当朋友》里常提到的柳比谢夫《奇特的一生》,不过技术性比较高、文学性有待讨论
谢谢推荐,很好看呢
http://huaren.us/s/blog_4cf137200100i07x.html
Have no idea how to deal with it. waiting to die
man... inflation comes and goes, just like everything else... business cycle comes and goes, recession comes and goes. i am just facinated by it..... love comes and goes, life comes and goes. gosh, this is pretty a ....
"有些人完全能从不寻常的角度来观察自己研究的对象。例如,知名的细胞学家弗拉基米尔·雅可夫列维奇·亚历山大罗夫曾兴高采烈地向我描述细胞的举止行动;他告诉我,细胞无疑是有灵魂的。柳比歇夫当然深信,最高尚的科学是昆虫学。昆虫学使人保留童年时代的优秀品质:天真、纯朴和容易对事物表示诧异。首先,他根据亲身体验感到了这一点。实际上,也正是这样。一个上了年纪的、仪表端庄的人,突然无机身旁的行人,跨过水洼去追一个甲壳虫,一个人要做到这一点,必须有婴儿般的纯洁和不顾一切的品质。他说,人们把昆虫学家们看成是傻瓜,这有时反而是一件好事,因为这样,昆虫学家们就可以毫无危险地闯入最富"掠夺性"的地点,反正人们会把他们当作无害的怪物加以嘲笑的。
他们实际上也确实是怪物。他们之中有些人真是爱上了自己的昆虫。卡尔·林德曼说,他爱三种生物;步行虫、女人和蜥蜴。他捉住蜥蜴后,吻一吻它们的头,又放走了。柳比歇夫打趣道:"看来,他对女人大致也是如此。" "
http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?boardid=331&topicid=826896
谢谢推荐,很好看呢
http://huaren.us/s/blog_4cf137200100i07x.html
抓住.上次你说Google video 来着, 怎么用? 我昨晚下载了一个Image search app for my touch. this is the only time i wish i had an ipad.. image is a little too small on the touch...
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抓住.上次你说Google video 来着, 怎么用? 我昨晚下载了一个Image search app for my touch. this is the only time i wish i had an ipad.. image is a little too small on the touch...
[此贴子已经被作者于2010/10/29 12:23:06编辑过]
啥?我不记得什么google video 了
啥?我不记得什么google video 了
揍是我说我发现google image很好用, 你就提了google video 来着
揍是我说我发现google image很好用, 你就提了google video 来着
哦哦,不是VIDEO,是GOOGLE READER,有一个GOOGLE READER PLAY,把好玩的东西用放幻灯的形式看,我听说在DROID上很慢就没有试了,不知道在ITOUCH上速度怎么样
目前倾向性变了,从综合考虑,德语学校可能更适合我们。
第一,德语学校有preschool,明年老二就可以sibling优先进了;
第二,德语学校老大有很多老朋友;
第三,德语学校离家很近
那个艺术学校也非常好,很专业的琴房,舞蹈教室和剧院(三个),这个条件其他学校是没法比的,我们唯一不喜欢的是,黑人比例太高了,80+%了。其实也有一个相熟的小朋友会一起上,也不算太远,没有preschool也不是完全不能忍。只是根据我们的经验,黑人如果decent,就会非常好,甚至比很多白人都好相处;但碰到不靠谱黑人的几率,比碰到white trash的几率大。
我接触过的老师,都还好。有一个我很不喜欢的,有4/5的几率避过她。
现在也只是选择个环境,进去之后(不管哪一个),再慢慢适应环境吧。。。。。
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以下内容只有回复后才可以浏览
以下内容需要威望达到5才可以浏览
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[power=5]
建议你用小白板好好回顾一下整个谈话的逻辑过程
你对心理学感兴趣-》想转行-》告诉你爸-》。。。
it's a huge waste of time (5yr phd in neuroscience+5yr maybe more for
psychology).
->Of course my being single and unaccomplished at this age
came up.
->And my mediocre (?) interpersonal skills too.
->Am I be unrealistic?
-》Do I really wanna switch or just using
psychology/interest as an excuse not to face the real life?
-》Should I
pursue what "I think" I love or try to do better with what I have?
-》 I
indeed didn't do well in the current phd study, so maybe I won't do
well in another major either, especially with my poor interpersonal
skills.
-》 orz
其实就是一件小事啊,怎么扯了这么十万八千里去了
It seems like what stressed you out is that you feel frustrated that your idea was turned down.
What you seem to want is to learn psychology, so what alternatives do you have besides getting a PhD in psychology after getting the first one?
For example, taking class, reading related literatures, talking with ppl, etc?
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我也不知道,这种问题没法公开问。。。
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其他的不知道怎么回答,
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i had an idea about buying gold which they discarded already. That's why I said calling them on this was a bad idea from the very beginning...
有人用evernote吗?我在iphone上下了一个,可以sync note across desktop, web, iphone, android,做的还挺不错的样子。
不喜欢。。
不喜欢。。
why not啊?
[power=5]
建议你用小白板好好回顾一下整个谈话的逻辑过程
其实就是一件小事啊,怎么扯了这么十万八千里去了
'cause major switching is a big thing ah...and being single and unaccomplished is a related topic to "waste of time"
蓬蓬, 地毯, 现在有那种什么carpet tile, 好么? 还有我要是刷漆, 换地毯, 是哪个先哪个后啊
没用过诶,我们没有打算用地毯。
刷漆会弄脏的,先刷漆呀
有人用evernote吗?我在iphone上下了一个,可以sync note across desktop, web, iphone, android,做的还挺不错的样子。
Thanks, I use something similar call springpad
'cause major switching is a big thing ah...and being single and unaccomplished is a related topic to "waste of time"
it sounds to me that you feel you "must: switch major, as if there are no alternative to get what you want
'cause major switching is a big thing ah...and being single and unaccomplished is a related topic to "waste of time"
现在的phd不拿了么?毕竟是读了5年,拿了也是给自己一个交代吧。
Thanks, I use something similar call springpad
i use this as well
Thanks, I use something similar call springpad
thx!我看看~~
没用过诶,我们没有打算用地毯。
刷漆会弄脏的,先刷漆呀
你们全部地板? 你们怎么找contractor的啊。。。 还是找handyman?我们可能最初就是刷刷漆,换个地毯类似的,,2年内, 要重新搞个gourmet kitchen....(当然了, 要确定下offer啥的再说, 难得这个淡季看到很喜欢的一个。。)
i had an idea about buying gold which they discarded already. That's why I said calling them on this was a bad idea from the very beginning...
man, i have been thinking how far gold can go. this impulsive idea of yours makes me think the top is near if not in
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it sounds to me that you feel you "must: switch major, as if there are no alternative to get what you want
the alternative would be I try to be a professor (working psychology-related projects with anmials), which I highly doubt I have what it takes...
'cause major switching is a big thing ah...and being single and unaccomplished is a related topic to "waste of time"
可不可以找一个POSTDOC的职位把你的背景和心理学联系起来呢?也许有的LAB很欢迎你这样有BENCH WORK背景的人呢?
你们全部地板? 你们怎么找contractor的啊。。。 还是找handyman?我们可能最初就是刷刷漆,换个地毯类似的,,2年内, 要重新搞个gourmet kitchen....(当然了, 要确定下offer啥的再说, 难得这个淡季看到很喜欢的一个。。)
我们这儿都是小房子,好像地毯反而不多呢。
刷漆,地毯就不用找正儿八经的contractor了,craigslist上想找活的人应该很多的。问他们要reference看看他们的活儿。
拿 ah, job hunting and everything. I just feel that it'll probably be necessary for me to go back to school in the future, and I want to have the option...
现在的phd不拿了么?毕竟是读了5年,拿了也是给自己一个交代吧。
man, i have been thinking how far gold can go. this impulsive idea of yours makes me think the top is near if not in [此贴子已经被作者于2010/10/29 13:44:21编辑过]
no, the idea was like 6 months old already. so probably it's already top or passed it.
我们这儿都是小房子,好像地毯反而不多呢。
刷漆,地毯就不用找正儿八经的contractor了,craigslist上想找活的人应该很多的。问他们要reference看看他们的活儿。
ok, 谢谢。。
拿 ah, job hunting and everything. I just feel that it'll probably be necessary for me to go back to school in the future, and I want to have the option...
那你就自己一步一步来好了,不用跟你爸妈报备,省得让他们干着急。
the alternative would be I try to be a professor (working psychology-related projects with anmials), which I highly doubt I have what it takes...
why do you must be a professor? can you be a research scientist first?
What is it that you care more/ what matters most? doing something you like? Or getting an approved career? or something else?
you need to make a pick, not about psychology, but about these generic questions.
Also, maybe beware of the pitfall of "all or nothing".
听起来这个换专业至少是个两三年后的行动,而且这个两三年还是变动非常大的一段时间,毕业开始工作等等。。。
你为什么要现在跟你父母提这件事呢?
可不可以找一个POSTDOC的职位把你的背景和心理学联系起来呢?也许有的LAB很欢迎你这样有BENCH WORK背景的人呢?
that's what I'm trying to find.
but the thing is, if I think I can do well in clinical psych, I'll surely go for this kind of postdoc. If I can't, and I doubt that I can become a research professor (writing grants and socialize etc), I'd better go for postdoc that leads to industry orz....
that's what I'm trying to find.
but the thing is, if I think I can do well in clinical psych, I'll surely go for this kind of postdoc. If I can't, and I doubt that I can become a research professor (writing grants and socialize etc), I'd better go for postdoc that leads to industry orz....
I don't think you can change the probability of the outcome by feeling stressed out, right? So what can you do to make things go the way you want it to go?
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我个人理解,读PHD就是个做科学工作的训练过程,新的知识可以去学习,关键是怎么用这些知识回答你感兴趣的问题。
如果一定要再读一个PHD,不一定要从上课开始。
你要是真的感兴趣,可以自己想想心理学的课题,比如花一点时间认真去写个PROPOSAL,这个过程里,你对这个学科的文献,现有的研究都会有个比较好的了解。当然你要花很多时间,当然,如果你真的喜欢,也许不觉得这会是工作。这个过程也是检验你自己兴趣的过程。
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Thanks for sharing. That's the best sceniro in my plan too. I guess the main thing that set me off was the perception of "I can't have the option of xxxx"...need to think over it
why do you must be a professor? can you be a research scientist first?
What is it that you care more/ what matters most? doing something you like? Or getting an approved career? or something else?
you need to make a pick, not about psychology, but about these generic questions.
Also, maybe beware of the pitfall of "all or nothing".
Thanks xiao xin.
I mean eventually a professor. Can one be a research scientist forever? The important thing is that professor can schedule things around his/her own agend..not entirely, but more than postdocs and employees do.
I believed that doing things I like is the No.2, financial survival is No. 1. But everytime I talked to my parents, they discard the "interest" idea with "their experience over all these years".
orz I'm such a sucker for "all or nothing" -_-b
I don't think you can change the probability of the outcome by feeling stressed out, right? So what can you do to make things go the way you want it to go?
gave me heartache and goose bumps. thanks xiao xin! I've never thought of that
Thanks xiao xin.
I mean eventually a professor. Can one be a research scientist forever? The important thing is that professor can schedule things around his/her own agend..not entirely, but more than postdocs and employees do.
I believed that doing things I like is the No.2, financial survival is No. 1. But everytime I talked to my parents, they discard the "interest" idea with "their experience over all these years".
orz I'm such a sucker for "all or nothing" -_-b
why not?
man, i have been thinking how far gold can go. this impulsive idea of yours makes me think the top is near if not in
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hahahaha
the reason is shameful. I thought if I need a PHD degree to get job I want in psych (indeed, according to what I've seen lately), I might need money to cover tuition. I might need their money then.
well, I guess I can use student loan? non resident can do that?
why not?
but then I don't have time to go to class and intership maybe...
Thanks xiao xin.
I mean eventually a professor. Can one be a research scientist forever? The important thing is that professor can schedule things around his/her own agend..not entirely, but more than postdocs and employees do.
I believed that doing things I like is the No.2, financial survival is No. 1. But everytime I talked to my parents, they discard the "interest" idea with "their experience over all these years".
orz I'm such a sucker for "all or nothing" -_-b
如果你改专业不需要父母经济上的投入的话,他们的话应该仅仅是参考,不可能是final call。
他们的建议如果有专业上的价值的话,非常值得参考;如果是人生阅历上的价值的话,那就记录下来,考虑的时候给个权重好了。
你现在是苦恼父母的不支持,还是苦恼换不换专业?
the reason is shameful. I thought if I need a PHD degree to get job I want in psych (indeed, according to what I've seen lately), I might need money to cover tuition. I might need their money then.
well, I guess I can use student loan? non resident can do that?
man, lucky you . my parents wont pay my US tuition... hehe ....
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i am really lost on this....
me too...
red, don't just be a thinker, be a doer first. Then you can justify your ideas.
再说一个,很多人对心理学的兴趣,是开始于一些personal experience,但是一旦要做研究,在这个领域要特别注意研究的科学性,要own your work,但是又不take it personal。时刻注意不能让自己的personal bias影响你的工作, 现在很多心理学研究有好想法,但是因为实验不够严谨,结果经常被质疑。因为这个,我觉得读心理学的难度是比一些其他学科要大很多的。这个难度,比语言难度还要大很多,你看容格写红书就知道。那都是呕心沥血。
严重同意。。。。 red 你把那个红宝书看了, 再说? 正好给我们做个报告。。我对那本书及其感兴趣, 但是一翻开头就疼。。。非常非常的rich 和intense...及其少见, 从没见过
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那你自己现在想清楚了吗? 因为你现在跟父母谈,把两个问题混在一起是很不利的。
第一个问题是,换不换专业。这个如果你父母不是专业人士的话,其实意见价值不大;
第二个问题是,已经决定了去做,问题financially怎么做,那就直接问,他们能不能帮忙了。如果他们financially capable,但不支持,那就看你能不能说服他们(列明大概需要多久的帮助,金额大概多少,你的打算大概如何。。。)。再分析下,除了他们的帮助之外, 你的选择还有哪些?
反正就是做事,如果心不静了,就先把心静下来(我是去泡泡浴),再做事。
but then I don't have time to go to class and intership maybe...
你还是像小新说的把思考的逻辑写写吧。很多都不是reasoning,只是你自己未经检验的猜测而已,然后你就陷入了一个不断自我否定的恶性循环出不来。
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我本科毕业的时候就特害怕找工作,以申请了学校为借口拖延着一直没找,要是当时没出国恐怕就得回老家了。。。
请教一个问题,楼里有人知道怎么online fax吗? 我听说有这个技术,最近想试试,不知道从哪里入手。
很久以前用过, 那个是免费的。。你就是注册一个号码, 别人就可以给那个号码发传真了。。。。 你有传真就会受到email, 然后会是扫描好的文件。。。你要发, 也可以把文件扫描了, 然后给那个email 发传真(这个我从没用过, 因为可以扫描就直接attachement 了
很久以前用过, 那个是免费的。。你就是注册一个号码, 别人就可以给那个号码发传真了。。。。 你有传真就会受到email, 然后会是扫描好的文件。。。你要发, 也可以把文件扫描了, 然后给那个email 发传真(这个我从没用过, 因为可以扫描就直接attachement 了
多谢,我目前主要是想发,刚google出来的都是付费的。我的需求还没到要付费的程度,记得很久以前有免费的。你还记得名字吗?
多谢,我目前主要是想发,刚google出来的都是付费的。我的需求还没到要付费的程度,记得很久以前有免费的。你还记得名字吗?
我10年前用的, 如果没记错的话, 叫efax? 估计现在收费了,要是还在的话
我10年前用的, 如果没记错的话, 叫efax? 估计现在收费了,要是还在的话
嗯,还在,这个收费了,30 day free trial。。。。
主要用google太习惯了,personal的电子通讯一听要收费就抵触。
ride a dinosaur. Both seem to rank high on the stupid scale.”
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和亲 太欢乐了。。。
《应该做一个制作者》
我写世界/世界才肯垂着头显现。/我写你/你才摘下眼镜看我。/我写自己时/看见头发阴郁,应该剪了。/能制作出剪刀/那才是真正了不起。
星期五水车们都出来了,书老大的号召力太强了
介叫久旱逢甘霖
笑死我了。。。。“如果能靠和亲收复台湾娱乐圈,不介意把京城四少汪汪王王都送出去,配给杨丞琳都不介意”
和亲 太欢乐了。。。
旺旺旺旺
对了,我也是瞎联想,前面小新说心理学那个很容易有personal bias的,幼儿教育学也是这样。一个孩子身上好使的招儿,换个孩子就可能完全不work。有孩子自己个性的原因,也有成长过程中环境正负反馈的影响。
我不是学心理学的,只是翻了翻红书,体会到真正搞这个研究不是那么浪漫的一件事,荣格是在拿自己当小白鼠去研究分析的,而且这件事情他坚持做了十年,没有真正为科学献身的精神是很难做到他这样执着和诚实的。
我前面说心理学研究容易有PERSONAL BIAS也不是很严谨的说法,就是我自己的个人感受,都是从纪录片里看来的,没有去翻文献。
我觉得从科学研究到具体应用,这中间需要一个翻译过程,毕竟一般来说,能研究的问题都比较基础,即使是应用性的研究,也不可能直接拿去应用。
所以需要这个翻译,必须根据受众做对他们有意义的研究解释。这个解释就肯定是因听众而异的。所以这个孩子WORK,那个孩子不WORK应该也很自然吧。
这个工作翻译很难,很容易产生误解和争议,不仅仅在幼儿教育,在其他领域(比如气候变化)也是一样。
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介叫久旱逢甘霖
油菜!
我不是学心理学的,只是翻了翻红书,体会到真正搞这个研究不是那么浪漫的一件事,荣格是在拿自己当小白鼠去研究分析的,而且这件事情他坚持做了十年,没有真正为科学献身的精神是很难做到他这样执着和诚实的。
我前面说心理学研究容易有PERSONAL BIAS也不是很严谨的说法,就是我自己的个人感受,都是从纪录片里看来的,没有去翻文献。
我觉得从科学研究到具体应用,这中间需要一个翻译过程,毕竟一般来说,能研究的问题都比较基础,即使是应用性的研究,也不可能直接拿去应用。
所以需要这个翻译,必须根据受众做对他们有意义的研究解释。这个解释就肯定是因听众而异的。所以这个孩子WORK,那个孩子不WORK应该也很自然吧。
这个工作翻译很难,很容易产生误解和争议,不仅仅在幼儿教育,在其他领域(比如气候变化)也是一样。
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从理论到应用,我觉得就实践检验吧。
你提到的这个翻译解释过程,我觉得有点像sell 过程,不太想research过程啊。
从理论到应用,我觉得就实践检验吧。
你提到的这个翻译解释过程,我觉得有点像sell 过程,不太想research过程啊。
咱俩说叉了,我说的这个解释过程当然不是research的一部分了。
从理论到应用,关键很难在controlled environment实践检验,每个家庭环境还不一样,所以我猜想结果不一样也很自然,
不过我既没有理论,也没有实践,纯粹瞎琢磨。
笑死我了。。。。“如果能靠和亲收复台湾娱乐圈,不介意把京城四少汪汪王王都送出去,配给杨丞琳都不介意”
和亲 太欢乐了。。。
我还以为京城四少属狗呢
咱俩说叉了,我说的这个解释过程当然不是research的一部分了。
从理论到应用,关键很难在controlled environment实践检验,每个家庭环境还不一样,所以我猜想结果不一样也很自然,
不过我既没有理论,也没有实践,纯粹瞎琢磨。
明白了,我觉得理论一般都是有适用条件的,所以从经验到理论的过程很难,就是因为把真正的适用条件找出来很难。
从理论到实用,就还要看具体条件怎么满足了。
这个中间还有一个学说,我觉得是介于理论和经验之间的一个状态。
明白了,我觉得理论一般都是有适用条件的,所以从经验到理论的过程很难,就是因为把真正的适用条件找出来很难。
从理论到实用,就还要看具体条件怎么满足了。
这个中间还有一个学说,我觉得是介于理论和经验之间的一个状态。
说得太好了!完全赞同你说的每一句啊!
我现在应该是相信绝对真理的存在,但人类目前提出的各种理论只是对绝对真理的各种近似。然后可以接近这个绝对真理的路/体系,可以完全不同。。。。。
我想我应该也是相信绝对的真理的。但我还不能清楚地说明我的想法,只是觉得人类对宇宙的现有认识还很有限
我再从你这个绝对真理发挥一下,就是最近感悟到人的平凡。虽然也读《奇特的一生》,读一些人极端的生活经历,但归根结底,人都是平凡的,从平凡的人生里,特别是从自己的平凡的人生里,能找到最大的力量。
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我想我应该也是相信绝对的真理的。但我还不能清楚地说明我的想法,只是觉得人类对宇宙的现有认识还很有限
我再从你这个绝对真理发挥一下,就是最近感悟到人的平凡。虽然也读《奇特的一生》,读一些人极端的生活经历,但归根结底,人都是平凡的,从平凡的人生里,特别是从自己的平凡的人生里,能找到最大的力量。
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我现在就致力于每天过得按部就班。。。。。小和尚敲钟,敲得声声响。
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有没有可能是你自己不愿意独立
that's one of the "false ideas" my fear
I don't know
and I feel more like "I can't feed myself" than "I don't want to feed myself"...
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如果你改专业不需要父母经济上的投入的话,他们的话应该仅仅是参考,不可能是final call。
他们的建议如果有专业上的价值的话,非常值得参考;如果是人生阅历上的价值的话,那就记录下来,考虑的时候给个权重好了。
你现在是苦恼父母的不支持,还是苦恼换不换专业?
both...I guess I'm still not sure whether I can do well in psychology, especially after I saw nearly all clinical jobs requires US residency at least. Therefore their doubt about me brought up the doubt in myself. So, 父母的不支持 leads to 苦恼换不换专业.
My thinking is, they've been watching me doing things for 20 yrs, they've been doing things in the real world themselves. They probably know better whether I'd survive in something or not...
严重同意。。。。 red 你把那个红宝书看了, 再说? 正好给我们做个报告。。我对那本书及其感兴趣, 但是一翻开头就疼。。。非常非常的rich 和intense...及其少见, 从没见过[此贴子已经被作者于2010/10/29 14:17:00编辑过]
that's another problem of me...as Xiaolai Li said, the feeling of time-is-running-up...I do love to read it though...
再说一个,很多人对心理学的兴趣,是开始于一些personal experience,但是一旦要做研究,在这个领域要特别注意研究的科学性,要own your work,但是又不take it personal。时刻注意不能让自己的personal bias影响你的工作, 现在很多心理学研究有好想法,但是因为实验不够严谨,结果经常被质疑。因为这个,我觉得读心理学的难度是比一些其他学科要大很多的。这个难度,比语言难度还要大很多,你看容格写红书就知道。那都是呕心沥血。
that's why I was going for clinical/counselling psychology first...I'm not that good at real research.
请教一个问题,楼里有人知道怎么online fax吗? 我听说有这个技术,最近想试试,不知道从哪里入手。
get a software. there are 30-day free trial ones.
my dad and i used a chinese one, not free though. "chuan zhen jing ling"
为什么不能先工作, 攒钱, 过几年用自己的钱回去读, 如果那个时候还是干兴趣的话?我觉得父母付了本科了, 就真的没义务付研究生的了。。。
the feeling of time running up and the feeling of incompetence
they are plan b. And I panic without plan b.
你还是像小新说的把思考的逻辑写写吧。很多都不是reasoning,只是你自己未经检验的猜测而已,然后你就陷入了一个不断自我否定的恶性循环出不来。
i'll try that
"柳比歇夫开始的时候同旁人差不多,跟所有年轻人一样,渴望着建树功勋,成为拉赫美托夫,成为超人。一步步,他才逐渐回复天性,冒出人的弱点,他鼓起勇气继续前进,攀登越来越陡峭的高峰--追求人性,追求那最最朴实的人性。
需要好多年才能懂得,最好不是去震惊世界,而是象易卜生所说的,生活在世界上。
这样,对人、对那门科学都要好一些。
柳比歇夫的长处首先在于他懂得这些道理要比其他人早得多。
帮助他做到这一点的,正是他的研究工作。 "
我现在就致力于每天过得按部就班。。。。。小和尚敲钟,敲得声声响。
zan!