mm I will conitinue shopping at Anthropologie. They publish catalogues every other month or so and use two each time, but I will definitely like them better if they use an Asian model once or tiwce.
And do you really think the models they have chosen so far have done a good job featuring their clothing? Nope, these models have no breasts, no butt just like most asian girls. Their clothing will wear on us for sure. we are not talking about victoria's secret which basically is some sort of porn catalogue. I still think they should use an Asian model occasionally. [此贴子已经被作者于2010/3/21 21:28:16编辑过]
Just because JCrew used one or two Asian models, doesn't mean they actually design for real Asian women figures. They still design for average American women. What about handbags? most models are white or movie stars, does that stop any Asian customers from buying? And to think that most hyper-expensive handbag customers are more Asian than Europeans or Americans...What about AF that so many people here on this site all crazy about?
I am sure that if Anthropologie opens a shop in a major Asian city, they would post big Asian girl face on their windows. But here is US, there is not need to be politically correct all the time, no need to have to have an Asian model to wear some French country style clothes.
Since we inclduing me like their brand why don't we encourage them to use Asian models occasionally? I hope you didn't think Asian girsl are not fit to do that job!
以下是引用joeyjo在3/21/2010 9:49:00 PM的发言： 我虽然不喜欢这个牌子，但是用啥人种当模特很重要吗？ yup, it is an issue of identity. We want to be represented to be seen to be valued. They might not design clothing with us on their mind, but think about years ago how many brands carried petitie size? American women are getting fatter and fatter but more and more brands are carrying petitie size. What does that tell you? Money talks honey!!
Just because JCrew used one or two Asian models, doesn't mean they actually design for real Asian women figures. They still design for average American women. What about handbags? most models are white or movie stars, does that stop any Asian customers from buying? And to think that most hyper-expensive handbag customers are more Asian than Europeans or Americans...What about AF that so many people here on this site all crazy about?
I am sure that if Anthropologie opens a shop in a major Asian city, they would post big Asian girl face on their windows. But here is US, there is not need to be politically correct all the time, no need to have to have an Asian model to wear some French country style clothes.
I am not crazy about AF, too young-ish, not my cup of tea.
You might want to find out why some companies use Asian models. I don't study marketing or business but I can only guess the reason they do that is to attract customers of a diversified body.
Designer handbags are not as affordable as Anthropologie and I don't think the need to find some asian models. They just need to give one or two handbags to asian movie stars or celebrities, and voila here is the living commercial.
I hope you guys are not thinking that I am trying to dsicourage you from shopping at Anthro.
as an aside: My BF finds it amazing that I have spent so much time bemoaning the fact Asian women are underrepresented by the dominant comsumerist culture's objectivication of women...sex sells, and Asian sex isn't being used enough by Anthropologie to sell their trendy products!
as an aside: My BF finds it amazing that I have spent so much time bemoaning the fact Asian women are underrepresented by the dominant comsumerist culture's objectivication of women...sex sells, and Asian sex isn't being used enough by Anthropologie to sell their trendy products! you made a good point, but i think you need to change the subjet of this thread. it is eye catching, but misleading.
when i watch the primetime tv shows, i notice almost every show now not only has a black person in their lead roles, but also has a spanish speaking character. Asians are underrepresented. But I won't simply say "stop watching those shows" [此贴子已经被作者于2010/3/21 23:21:22编辑过]
My BF's Jewish Lawyer friend just made a comment the other night while watching Oscar. He noticed that many Jewish film producers are into Chinese girl friends now. Chinese power is rising and Chinese girls you are hot commodities now! Time to get Anthropologie to give us a Chinese model...
My BF's Jewish Lawyer friend just made a comment the other night while watching Oscar. He noticed that many Jewish film producers are into Chinese girl friends now. Chinese power is rising and Chinese girls you are hot commodities now! Time to get Anthropologie to give us a Chinese model...FirstLevelLinkPlaceHolder_ID720566_FirstLevelMatchID1
啊我终于忍不住了 this is the dumbest comment I've seen in quite a while!
Maybe some of you mm think I am ridiculous by posing this question, but I think this issue shouldn't be treated as a matter of joke. When I browse through a magazine or catalogue, I like to see if they use any Asian looking models. It is somewhat like whether they put "Chinese" on 2010 Census, I like to be recognized as Asian. I believe you all have rights to choose to patronize any merchant, but while some of you are crying out racism, why don't we act more proactively? if you don't recognize us, we are not going to open our wallets. If we all send a message to Anthropologie to request an Asian model, they might listen...Also if they know we like their clothing that much, including myself, they might design their clothing more pleasing and falttering to us. It is win-win!
Fourth update: 大妈我已经开始和安家接洽， 如果哪天她家真用了个asian looking model, mm 别忘了大妈啊！ [此贴子已经被作者于2010/3/22 13:01:00编辑过]
I am like you: I like the store a lot too. As a matter of fact, anthro has become my favorite place to shop for shoes and clothing. I like their shoes, skirts and dresses the most. Their dessert plates are a good buy as well which I got a whole collection. I would continue to be their fan but hope some day they would use an Asian model.
我说的是那些名包店，一个就三两千的，亚洲人就吃这个，买起来人多势众的，也没见他们多用了几个亚洲模特啊，也没让谁花钱花得不顺心过。相比之下Anthropologie的亚洲顾客少多了，反倒有人介意了。逻辑上也说不过去不是吗？老实说有些品牌用亚洲模特儿时，气质并不是很对，而且往往是他们西方人眼里认为的“典型”亚洲人，一看就是冲着我们日益鼓胀的钱包，我倒没觉得有多受用，太明显的商业效益，反而叫我有想扣紧荷包的念头。对待什么样的消费群体运用什么样的推销手段，这是正常的。我觉得Anthropologie还没有到那个叫人介意的地步，首先人家的消费对象在美国人中间也算是很特定的，很有针对性的，所以它的模特和摄影都不同于一般店。同属的Free People 就针对年轻十年的顾客，模特的气质和造型又大相径庭，Free People模特亚裔不少。再说了中国人买Anthropologie比例不大，只是华人上有人喜欢不代表它的消费群体中亚裔比例高。把它和JCrew, AF比比看就知道了。老实说要对模特有意见的话，应该更多人对AF有意见才对，价钱就不说了，反正大家一齐出钱让模特赤身裸体就是了。如果不是给人告过，估计还是清一色的白人赤膊上阵。大家都有站在店口和男模合影赚回点吗？也没见谁少卖或是嫌没见够亚洲裸男的。如果有天大家买Anthropologie都抢JCrew一样，或是有买包那样的爽快，或是人家在亚洲开店了还不用亚洲模特的话，那时候再说还来得及。
lz这种思维发展下去容易向棒子看齐……
re，啥逻辑啊
不用亚洲毛豆和歧视还是不同的。
re。。。。不知道lz用美元不？上面也没有亚裔模特。
ＢＲ家的官网就有个亚裔ｍｏｄｅｌ。每次我先看搭配，看那个白ＭＭ穿得时候什么衣服都很草，于是点开看单品，但是很悲剧的，单品都由这个亚裔ＭＭ穿着，于是就灭草了。。。。
an大妈我穿不了。
性价比太低了～
我觉得不象，淑女屋太LOLI了，尤其对我这种已经30的大妈来说。
re............I hate 淑女屋....but I like anthropologie
re............I hate 淑女屋....but I like anthropologie
me too
太贵了，没有白菜捡，不买
re
笑死了，搂住你一定要说自己是开玩笑哈。。。否则。。。
lz坚决不承认自己在开玩笑，！安家只是个例子， 哪家 都 可以当成讨论的对象， 这只是一个态度的问题，我发现 大家 都 太小看 自己 的 力量了！ 可悲呀！
这个。。。。 觉得只要适合自己的、而且又白菜的，就买
这个什么逻辑? 想个比较好的理由再来。
你想吧！
安家这个到不了这个高度吧,它选model来拍照的时候我觉得只是看谁穿着好看来选的,这样才能促进sales呀
因为model就上纲上线的,lz mm我觉得你过于sensitive了
有的是比安家更需要抵制的,譬如那些zd的supporter们
我记得以前看到 ikea的网页把taiwan, hongkong做为一个country来select的时候,给他们发过一封信,因为这是原则问题
安家这个到不了这个高度吧,它选model来拍照的时候我觉得只是看谁穿着好看来选的,这样才能促进sales呀
因为model就上纲上线的,lz mm我觉得你过于sensitive了
有的是比安家更需要抵制的,譬如那些zd的supporter们
mm I will conitinue shopping at Anthropologie. They publish catalogues every other month or so and use two each time, but I will definitely like them better if they use an Asian model once or tiwce.
And do you really think the models they have chosen so far have done a good job featuring their clothing? Nope, these models have no breasts, no butt just like most asian girls. Their clothing will wear on us for sure. we are not talking about victoria's secret which basically is some sort of porn catalogue. I still think they should use an Asian model occasionally.
[此贴子已经被作者于2010/3/21 21:28:16编辑过]
今天路过门口我没进，我就不进~
why?
RE~~
美国飞机、地铁、火车还没用中国乘务员呢，不知LZMM你坐吗？
So true!
Just because JCrew used one or two Asian models, doesn't mean they actually design for real Asian women figures. They still design for average American women. What about handbags? most models are white or movie stars, does that stop any Asian customers from buying? And to think that most hyper-expensive handbag customers are more Asian than Europeans or Americans...What about AF that so many people here on this site all crazy about?
I am sure that if Anthropologie opens a shop in a major Asian city, they would post big Asian girl face on their windows. But here is US, there is not need to be politically correct all the time, no need to have to have an Asian model to wear some French country style clothes.
free people和安家是不是一个母公司？fp的catalogue上倒是看到不少亚裔模特
yeap! I think free people is the same as urban outfitter!
不用亚洲毛豆和歧视还是不同的。
I don't think there is any discrimination but it definitely will help if they have the asian customers in mind.
lz这种思维发展下去容易向棒子看齐……
I don't understand this but I have no prejudice against Korean people just you know!
Since we inclduing me like their brand why don't we encourage them to use Asian models occasionally? I hope you didn't think Asian girsl are not fit to do that job!
当然有关系，这是号召力的问题，还有表示他们关心我们亚裔消费者， that's all!
我们亚洲人——更确切地说，我们在美中国女性消费者还需要店家格外的号召吗？老实说过去一、两年的经济，老美们都勒紧裤腰带一分钱掰成三瓣用，只有我们中国姐妹们应着这样那样的SALES格外斗志昂扬、血拼得热血沸腾，没有我们这些店、这些名牌还能撑到今天？从西到东，牌子越响，价格越离谱，中国人越爱。人家靠着中国一家店面可以养活整个的全球连锁店，还能在那样的经济里盈利，人家已经数着钞票笑得合不拢嘴了。中国市场里就没少贴中国明星的脸，要是连美国店也要这样，恐怕这里的华人姐妹更要意乱情迷了。
我虽然不喜欢这个牌子，但是用啥人种当模特很重要吗？
yup, it is an issue of identity. We want to be represented to be seen to be valued. They might not design clothing with us on their mind, but think about years ago how many brands carried petitie size? American women are getting fatter and fatter but more and more brands are carrying petitie size. What does that tell you? Money talks honey!!
So true!
Just because JCrew used one or two Asian models, doesn't mean they actually design for real Asian women figures. They still design for average American women. What about handbags? most models are white or movie stars, does that stop any Asian customers from buying? And to think that most hyper-expensive handbag customers are more Asian than Europeans or Americans...What about AF that so many people here on this site all crazy about?
I am sure that if Anthropologie opens a shop in a major Asian city, they would post big Asian girl face on their windows. But here is US, there is not need to be politically correct all the time, no need to have to have an Asian model to wear some French country style clothes.
I am not crazy about AF, too young-ish, not my cup of tea.
You might want to find out why some companies use Asian models. I don't study marketing or business but I can only guess the reason they do that is to attract customers of a diversified body.
Designer handbags are not as affordable as Anthropologie and I don't think the need to find some asian models. They just need to give one or two handbags to asian movie stars or celebrities, and voila here is the living commercial.
I hope you guys are not thinking that I am trying to dsicourage you from shopping at Anthro.
as an aside: My BF finds it amazing that I have spent so much time bemoaning the fact
Asian women are underrepresented by the dominant comsumerist culture's objectivication of women...sex sells, and Asian sex isn't being used enough by Anthropologie to sell their trendy products!
所以这个命题对我不成立
但是对fan她家的mm们来说
估计无论用什么model对她们来讲,她们都还是会买吧
re。。。。不知道lz用美元不？上面也没有亚裔模特。
哈哈，我就不买，我塞不进去
ＤＩＮＧ！！！！
ＭＥ ＴＯＯＯ
我因为HUAREN 上MM通风报信赶去过N次安家，迄今为此，只买了一条短裤。不知道为什么，衣服质量，款式和颜色都好，价格也好，穿上效果也不坏，就是下不了决心买。想想心爱的JCREW，就放弃了。觉得和他家八字不合。
跟我一样啊，每次是逛的挺高兴，花花绿绿的十分养眼，就是舍不得掏钱买，奇怪了。
as an aside: My BF finds it amazing that I have spent so much time bemoaning the fact
Asian women are underrepresented by the dominant comsumerist culture's objectivication of women...sex sells, and Asian sex isn't being used enough by Anthropologie to sell their trendy products!
you made a good point, but i think you need to change the subjet of this thread. it is eye catching, but misleading.
when i watch the primetime tv shows, i notice almost every show now not only has a black person in their lead roles, but also has a spanish speaking character. Asians are underrepresented. But I won't simply say "stop watching those shows"
[此贴子已经被作者于2010/3/21 23:21:22编辑过]
我们亚洲人——更确切地说，我们在美中国女性消费者还需要店家格外的号召吗？老实说过去一、两年的经济，老美们都勒紧裤腰带一分钱掰成三瓣用，只有我们中国姐妹们应着这样那样的SALES格外斗志昂扬、血拼得热血沸腾，没有我们这些店、这些名牌还能撑到今天？从西到东，牌子越响，价格越离谱，中国人越爱。人家靠着中国一家店面可以养活整个的全球连锁店，还能在那样的经济里盈利，人家已经数着钞票笑得合不拢嘴了。中国市场里就没少贴中国明星的脸，要是连美国店也要这样，恐怕这里的华人姐妹更要意乱情迷了。
这说得也太绝对了,至少我在安家见到华人的次数就很有限
有钱难买个心头好。自个管好自个儿钱包就行了，没事老琢磨怎么安排别人钱包作什么？
没错啊。
“台湾大妈”很爱站在道德制高点，弄些有的没有的（请参看lz的其他帖子）。 俺就想问问，您经常这么先天下之忧而忧，后天下之乐而乐很辛苦吧。
您来推荐安家的毛豆， 您征求人家mm的同意了吗？ 您问问安家听不听您的？ 人家两方面都没动静， 您个路人甲打的哪门子酱油呢？
我记得以前看到 ikea的网页把taiwan, hongkong做为一个country来select的时候,给他们发过一封信,因为这是原则问题
安家这个到不了这个高度吧,它选model来拍照的时候我觉得只是看谁穿着好看来选的,这样才能促进sales呀
因为model就上纲上线的,lz mm我觉得你过于sensitive了
有的是比安家更需要抵制的,譬如那些zd的supporter们
strongly agree.
94，狠好奇为啥经常有类似问大家为啥喜欢啥啥的帖子。。。
赞同！超讨厌这样的帖子。就好像问你怎么会喜欢这样的男人/女人一样的问题，别人喜欢自有别人的理由。
我觉得安家就跟国内的淑女屋很像，要有淑女气质的/身材好的穿起来才好看。
这个完全不同意。安家和淑女屋气质差太远。而且安家也绝对不是淑女/身材好的人穿才好看。
同意的re
在商言商啊， 不用亚洲模特肯定是因为他们的顾客本身大部分不是亚洲人吧。。。 所以不用亚洲模特， 这个很正常， 一旦很多亚洲顾客了， 有潜力了， 肯定会用亚洲模特的， 就是这么简单。。 我回过看到商场的衣服品牌， 几乎千篇一律是欧美模特， 这个就和中国国内现在在衣着上喜欢崇洋有关了。。 但是什么清洁用品啊啥的， 就全是亚洲家庭主妇的模样做模特。。 这些都是市场需求， 不要上纲上线啊
re
PS：至于吗？？？
我是不买他家的, 颜色太浅了, 只适合白人, 亚洲人穿起来感觉轻飘飘的, 压不住. 一头黑发, 加上那么潜的颜色, 感觉很不搭
为啥偶觉得偶必须穿浅色衣服呢？ --- 因为我太黄了，穿黑色和棕色系，抬不起来。。。。
我做marketing相关的 觉得非常有道理 可能稍微极端了点 黑人的地位是通过百年打拼获得的 美国电影 黑人基本都是正面形象 亚洲人好多是ws的 精明的 占小便宜的 害主角的
等asian强大了 经济上政治上 懂得争取自己的权利的时候 这些都是顺理成章的事情了
那么asian的强大是迟早的 早嗅到商机的人 早赚钱
顾客本身亚洲人占比例很少，不用亚洲模特很正常。
lzmm太极端了，这样对身心都不好的哈，拍拍。
偶打你 pp!
没错啊。
“台湾大妈”很爱站在道德制高点，弄些有的没有的（请参看lz的其他帖子）。 俺就想问问，您经常这么先天下之忧而忧，后天下之乐而乐很辛苦吧。
您来推荐安家的毛豆， 您征求人家mm的同意了吗？ 您问问安家听不听您的？ 人家两方面都没动静， 您个路人甲打的哪门子酱油呢？
It's working progress! I will keep you posted when I realize my Dream! haha!
我打金兰酱油！
不理解ls的为什么都觉得lz的想法很奇怪
我做marketing相关的 觉得非常有道理 可能稍微极端了点 黑人的地位是通过百年打拼获得的 美国电影 黑人基本都是正面形象 亚洲人好多是ws的 精明的 占小便宜的 害主角的
等asian强大了 经济上政治上 懂得争取自己的权利的时候 这些都是顺理成章的事情了
那么asian的强大是迟早的 早嗅到商机的人 早赚钱
唉，终于找到个了解偶的了！
My BF's Jewish Lawyer friend just made a comment the other night while watching Oscar. He noticed that many Jewish film producers are into Chinese girl friends now. Chinese power is rising and Chinese girls you are hot commodities now! Time to get Anthropologie to give us a Chinese model...FirstLevelLinkPlaceHolder_ID720566_FirstLevelMatchID1
啊我终于忍不住了 this is the dumbest comment I've seen in quite a while!
我觉得安家就跟国内的淑女屋很像，要有淑女气质的/身材好的穿起来才好看。
yeah, and that's not me. So tragic. So Bei1 Ju4.
我觉得lzmm说的有点片面，但也不是全无道理。
其实买衣服就是个人喜好,谁在真正的看MODEL呢?
我觉得如果好看,我还是会继续买的.
啊我终于忍不住了 this is the dumbest comment I've seen in quite a while!
I like your 头像，so cute!
为毛有些mm在回帖的时候要扯到lzmm是台湾人呢。就事论事不行嘛。
我觉得lzmm说的有点片面，但也不是全无道理。
555555... 等了好久， 终于看见知音的到来。。。
嗯，都是美国老头，还都是白人。
哈哈哈哈哈哈。。。。。。。。。。。。
华人mm 如此迷恋安家， 可至今尚未看过安家用过正式亚裔模特儿， mm能拒买吗？ 做得到吗？
second post: updates
感谢姐妹们踊跃发言，lz大妈我并未鼓吹大家拒买， 我只是从消费者的角度来审视安家促销的策略，记忆当中他们从没采用过亚裔模特儿，（有回用个路人甲不算数）， 如果他们真想笼络亚裔消费者就该考虑偶尔用个东方脸孔的吧！ 或许我们可以推出糖霜妹妹党安家model!!!
Third update post:
Maybe some of you mm think I am ridiculous by posing this question, but I think this issue shouldn't be treated as a matter of joke. When I browse through a magazine or catalogue, I like to see if they use any Asian looking models. It is somewhat like whether they put "Chinese" on 2010 Census, I like to be recognized as Asian. I believe you all have rights to choose to patronize any merchant, but while some of you are crying out racism, why don't we act more proactively? if you don't recognize us, we are not going to open our wallets. If we all send a message to Anthropologie to request an Asian model, they might listen...Also if they know we like their clothing that much, including myself, they might design their clothing more pleasing and falttering to us. It is win-win!
Fourth update:
大妈我已经开始和安家接洽， 如果哪天她家真用了个asian looking model, mm 别忘了大妈啊！
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不明白，为什么不算数？
这样就拒买
太有原则了吧
靠
这样就拒买
太有原则了吧
靠，dude！ 是 拒买？ 不是 拒买！
ann taylor, anthropologie or ann demeulemeester?
but
the topic is a bit too serious
fashion is still fashion
you like it, you buy it
I like some plain (not toooooo floral) dresses from AN
The cut and style are quite nice
but most of their stuffs are still too fancy(busy) for me
我在它家也基本买不到东西,放那好看，一上我身就杯具了
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我穿它家的衣服不好看，而且它家的衣服我觉得更适合petite size的mm穿 。
mm 在美国，ｐｅｔｉｔｅ 指的是 ５尺４寸以下的身高， 肥胖不拘。
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我倒从未注意它家的模特是不是亚洲的.我本来不怎么喜欢它家的衣服,觉得有些OVERPRICE了.但我闺蜜很迷它家的衣服,所以她来我们这我们会去.但最近版上的MM们种了不少草,我偶然从版上抢了一件热门的开衫,每次穿出去,每次被人赞.它家的衣服客观来说,上身更好看.而且穿着很有女人味.我倒是渐渐喜欢AN家了.我没有和LZ抬杠的意思,只是我个人的感受.
I am like you: I like the store a lot too. As a matter of fact, anthro has become my favorite place to shop for shoes and clothing. I like their shoes, skirts and dresses the most. Their dessert plates are a good buy as well which I got a whole collection. I would continue to be their fan but hope some day they would use an Asian model.
这说得也太绝对了,至少我在安家见到华人的次数就很有限
我说的是那些名包店，一个就三两千的，亚洲人就吃这个，买起来人多势众的，也没见他们多用了几个亚洲模特啊，也没让谁花钱花得不顺心过。相比之下Anthropologie的亚洲顾客少多了，反倒有人介意了。逻辑上也说不过去不是吗？老实说有些品牌用亚洲模特儿时，气质并不是很对，而且往往是他们西方人眼里认为的“典型”亚洲人，一看就是冲着我们日益鼓胀的钱包，我倒没觉得有多受用，太明显的商业效益，反而叫我有想扣紧荷包的念头。对待什么样的消费群体运用什么样的推销手段，这是正常的。我觉得Anthropologie还没有到那个叫人介意的地步，首先人家的消费对象在美国人中间也算是很特定的，很有针对性的，所以它的模特和摄影都不同于一般店。同属的Free People 就针对年轻十年的顾客，模特的气质和造型又大相径庭，Free People模特亚裔不少。再说了中国人买Anthropologie比例不大，只是华人上有人喜欢不代表它的消费群体中亚裔比例高。把它和JCrew, AF比比看就知道了。老实说要对模特有意见的话，应该更多人对AF有意见才对，价钱就不说了，反正大家一齐出钱让模特赤身裸体就是了。如果不是给人告过，估计还是清一色的白人赤膊上阵。大家都有站在店口和男模合影赚回点吗？也没见谁少卖或是嫌没见够亚洲裸男的。如果有天大家买Anthropologie都抢JCrew一样，或是有买包那样的爽快，或是人家在亚洲开店了还不用亚洲模特的话，那时候再说还来得及。