I owned a ford for 3+ years, a Honda 2+ year, drove Corolla (but dislike it) in the past too.
Ford- if you are lucky you can get a nice one, but I am not, it is crap, my fluid was burned a hole and there is no indication in the electronic system. I spent more money fixing it but many of the problems never get fixed. My in-law owned a SUV, seldom have problem. My concolusion is that Ford's quality is not stable at all.
I drove Coralla, it is light and quiet but when I speed up to 60 or higher MPH, I feel the car is not stable, it floats left and right, and I feel I cannot control where it goes, a bit like leave flying in the air, seriously. After a few days I decided it is not safe for me.
Honda, quieter but more stable and solid, I love it. I cannot comment on "how if accident" because I do not have such experience but comparing to Corolla and Malibu (also drove it for a few days, too heavy for small car and noisy. When you start and stop the car, require lots of efforts), Honda is much better.
I heard it is a very good car, kind of boring and ugly though. Just be aware that the maintanance cost and repair cost is much higher than American/Japanese cars. One of my ex-boss had one. She love it for its safty reputation but she hate it for spending too much to maintain and repair.
I owned a ford for 3+ years, a Honda 2+ year, drove Corolla (but dislike it) in the past too.
Ford- if you are lucky you can get a nice one, but I am not, it is crap, my fluid was burned a hole and there is no indication in the electronic system. I spent more money fixing it but many of the problems never get fixed. My in-law owned a SUV, seldom have problem. My concolusion is that Ford's quality is not stable at all.
I drove Coralla, it is light and quiet but when I speed up to 60 or higher MPH, I feel the car is not stable, it floats left and right, and I feel I cannot control where it goes, a bit like leave flying in the air, seriously. After a few days I decided it is not safe for me.
Honda, quieter but more stable and solid, I love it. I cannot comment on "how if accident" because I do not have such experience but comparing to Corolla and Malibu (also drove it for a few days, too heavy for small car and noisy. When you start and stop the car, require lots of efforts), Honda is much better.
LUCK is the most important thing when it comes to owning a Ford... I know a "LUCKY" guy had a Mustang for 7 years, didn't have one single problem with it; other extreme examples might be "having to replace intercooler after three months of purchase"
Corolla made in recent 8 years is a joke and shame of Toyota, they used the cheapest parts and matiatial possible for this car, of course Toyota made tons of money out of this model. I personally believe the manufacturing cost of a Corolla is around $8000.
MM不能掉以轻心 现在可能没什么感觉 也许过几天会有 肌肉紧张等原因造成的 我的经验是这样
bless,,人没事就好
大家都注意安全。
还好人没事
bless楼主bf
大家上路看到toyota都躲着点吧，sigh
bless!!!volvo真是好车!不过被中国吉利汽车买了大家知道哇?正好支持国货啦~
[此贴子已经被作者于2010/2/25 17:23:36编辑过]
really? good
又是Toyota！
我现在开车看到toyota都离得远点，
我还听说过一个有钱老头酒后驾车，他的是BMW，然后之间跟对面来的小型卡车相撞，对方全部报废，司机乘车都是医生，全部丧生，他本人也在医院躺了一阵，但是最后没有事情，真是感叹德国车的牢固啊，有钱了也去弄一部大奔开
给你说个反例，前几年发生车祸，和一辆奔驰碰者了，我的车（非奔驰宝马）没有大碍，但奔驰立马残了
颤抖的小猴子
最近也想买volvo，比较中意xc60，可是看了JD POWER上报告对其reliability /dependability 评价一般，也就是说，在luxury brand中的比较不靠谱的了，偶就很犹豫了。
想买个5人的SUV, 不考虑日韩车，有的给推荐一下吧？
[此贴子已经被作者于2010/2/26 12:07:36编辑过]
Bless! Corolla这么小的车还雨天开快车？老老实实就该趴在慢车道才对。还是美国车结实，赞！
volvo是欧洲车好吧
前面有个mm已经说过了，volvo是瑞典产的，不是德国。原先volvo属于ford集团，好像是去年被吉利集团买去了。
最近也想买volvo，比较中意xc60，可是看了JD POWER上报告对其reliability /dependability 评价一般，也就是说，在luxury brand中的比较不靠谱的了，偶就很犹豫了。
想买个5人的SUV, 不考虑日韩车，有的给推荐一下吧？
sabura outback
前面有个mm已经说过了，volvo是瑞典产的，不是德国。原先volvo属于ford集团，好像是去年被吉利集团买去了。
最近也想买volvo，比较中意xc60，可是看了JD POWER上报告对其reliability /dependability 评价一般，也就是说，在luxury brand中的比较不靠谱的了，偶就很犹豫了。
想买个5人的SUV, 不考虑日韩车，有的给推荐一下吧？
Volvo的SUV好像是返修率不低
Volvo其实作的最好的是cross country wagon, V70系列的，多年的款了，结实也耐用
sedan似乎也还可以
我们的S40是5年前买的，买的时候是差不多5年新，从40k开到90k，基本上除了换油，没什么毛病
而且Volvo都是7500 miles才需要换一次油的
[此贴子已经被作者于2010/2/26 12:09:54编辑过]
前面有个mm已经说过了，volvo是瑞典产的，不是德国。原先volvo属于ford集团，好像是去年被吉利集团买去了。
最近也想买volvo，比较中意xc60，可是看了JD POWER上报告对其reliability /dependability 评价一般，也就是说，在luxury brand中的比较不靠谱的了，偶就很犹豫了。
想买个5人的SUV, 不考虑日韩车，有的给推荐一下吧？
还真有人信JD Power的评测？JD Power就是一群从洗衣服到卫生巾，从避孕套到马桶盖什么都评的非专业人士大妈及大叔们。dealer里的机械师都说，JD Power的人连自己换个机油都不会，都出来把天下车评一遍。
一个车是否reliable是在新车最初8000英里的使用和保养情况决定的。即使看评测要看MotorTrend, Fifth Gear的专业评测。
Volvo的SUV好像是返修率不低
Volvo其实作的最好的是cross country wagon, V70系列的，多年的款了，结实也耐用
sedan似乎也还可以
我们的S40是5年前买的，买的时候是差不多5年新，从40k开到90k，基本上除了换油，没什么毛病
而且Volvo都是7500 miles才需要换一次油的
出来说VOLVO返修率高的媒体其实都是没有开过VOLVO的，VOLVO是少数几个品牌拥有最忠实的顾客的，这说明了车主对VOLVO的满意度很高，如果一个车总是坏人家肯定不会再买了。美国的媒体都很搞笑，出来评车的都是什么Yahoo Auto，MSN Auto，JD Power这些鬼，这些人就是评评是Always好用还是CareFree好用的水平。
sabura outback
Subaru的四驱比VOLVO好，但是整车稳定性和安全性和VOLVO相比还是差一个档次。但是Subaru的军用车血统绝不是吃素的。
烤肉啦好可怕，安全性真是最重要的
[此贴子已经被作者于2010/2/26 12:07:36编辑过]
You only get what you pay for.
给你说个反例，前几年发生车祸，和一辆奔驰碰者了，我的车（非奔驰宝马）没有大碍，但奔驰立马残了
我不知道你的车来自哪个星球，但是在地球上，拿100辆奔驰跟100辆丰田撞100次，绝对不会有一次是丰田沾光的。也许你遇到了个例，或者你的车是外星来的，或者这个奔驰是山寨的，总之...个例代表不了全局。
日本车是像纸糊的一样，不能撞一撞就扁了，看来还是德国车结实
二战后，德国人给犹太人下跪了；日本人别说下跪了，认账都还没认呢。一个心胸如此狭隘的民族能造出什么实在东西？
二战后，德国人给犹太人下跪了；日本人别说下跪了，认账都还没认呢。一个心胸如此狭隘的民族能造出什么实在东西？
AV？也是假叫床吧。
还真有人信JD Power的评测？JD Power就是一群从洗衣服到卫生巾，从避孕套到马桶盖什么都评的非专业人士大妈及大叔们。dealer里的机械师都说，JD Power的人连自己换个机油都不会，都出来把天下车评一遍。
一个车是否reliable是在新车最初8000英里的使用和保养情况决定的。即使看评测要看MotorTrend, Fifth Gear的专业评测。
哈哈。。。这个比较搞笑。。。
不过我们下一辆可能还是买Volvo。。。
实在是觉得没啥好complain，而且还保了命的车。。。
bless! 看来日本车不能买了
bless,
大家上路看到toyota都躲着点吧，sigh
跟它后面比较安全.
我的车也是VOLVO S40 2000年的model。。。。看了这个帖子心里很安心啊
我晕，
以后在路上见丰田的车子就躲！
bless!!!
sabura outback
Sabura是日本车，所有不会买。Thanks anyway.
真搞不懂，大家都知道这车安全性差，看中国超市门口，日本车还是一摞一摞的。
还真有人信JD Power的评测？JD Power就是一群从洗衣服到卫生巾，从避孕套到马桶盖什么都评的非专业人士大妈及大叔们。dealer里的机械师都说，JD Power的人连自己换个机油都不会，都出来把天下车评一遍。
一个车是否reliable是在新车最初8000英里的使用和保养情况决定的。即使看评测要看MotorTrend, Fifth Gear的专业评测。
我不了解JD Power, 但是我觉得不一定要会换机油才能评车。
我的感觉，所有的新车有了问题都会去找dealer修，因为有warranty. JD Power的人不会换机油，如果有一定的统计学信息和知识，也是可以评一下的，我没觉得有什么问题。
一个车是否reliable是在新车最初8000英里的使用和保养情况决定的。
Really？这么说也不用挑牌子了，好好保养就得了。
[此贴子已经被作者于2010/2/26 15:18:03编辑过]
Ford- if you are lucky you can get a nice one, but I am not, it is crap, my fluid was burned a hole and there is no indication in the electronic system. I spent more money fixing it but many of the problems never get fixed. My in-law owned a SUV, seldom have problem. My concolusion is that Ford's quality is not stable at all.
I drove Coralla, it is light and quiet but when I speed up to 60 or higher MPH, I feel the car is not stable, it floats left and right, and I feel I cannot control where it goes, a bit like leave flying in the air, seriously. After a few days I decided it is not safe for me.
Honda, quieter but more stable and solid, I love it. I cannot comment on "how if accident" because I do not have such experience but comparing to Corolla and Malibu (also drove it for a few days, too heavy for small car and noisy. When you start and stop the car, require lots of efforts), Honda is much better.
我不了解JD Power, 但是我觉得不一定要会换机油才能评车。
我的感觉，所有的新车有了问题都会去找dealer修，因为有warranty. JD Power的人不会换机油，如果有一定的统计学信息和知识，也是可以评一下的，我没觉得有什么问题。
一个车是否reliable是在新车最初8000英里的使用和保养情况决定的。
Really？这么说也不用挑牌子了，好好保养就得了。
[此贴子已经被作者于2010/2/26 15:18:03编辑过]
JD Power的问题是评车的和评洗衣份的是同一群人，这群人没有专业的机械背景也没有专业的化工背景。MotorTrend和Fifth Gear评车的都是几十年的机械师和专业试车人员，你信那个？
前8000的保养和驾驶习惯基本决定了这个车的一生，当然你不能说把一辆KIA好好保养能指望它能像老VOLVO那样五十万英里无大修。车的寿命和可靠性取决于制造工艺/材料配件/保养习惯。
I owned a ford for 3+ years, a Honda 2+ year, drove Corolla (but dislike it) in the past too.
Ford- if you are lucky you can get a nice one, but I am not, it is crap, my fluid was burned a hole and there is no indication in the electronic system. I spent more money fixing it but many of the problems never get fixed. My in-law owned a SUV, seldom have problem. My concolusion is that Ford's quality is not stable at all.
I drove Coralla, it is light and quiet but when I speed up to 60 or higher MPH, I feel the car is not stable, it floats left and right, and I feel I cannot control where it goes, a bit like leave flying in the air, seriously. After a few days I decided it is not safe for me.
Honda, quieter but more stable and solid, I love it. I cannot comment on "how if accident" because I do not have such experience but comparing to Corolla and Malibu (also drove it for a few days, too heavy for small car and noisy. When you start and stop the car, require lots of efforts), Honda is much better.
LUCK is the most important thing when it comes to owning a Ford... I know a "LUCKY" guy had a Mustang for 7 years, didn't have one single problem with it; other extreme examples might be "having to replace intercooler after three months of purchase"
Corolla made in recent 8 years is a joke and shame of Toyota, they used the cheapest parts and matiatial possible for this car, of course Toyota made tons of money out of this model. I personally believe the manufacturing cost of a Corolla is around $8000.
不管怎么样，人没有事就好。。。Bless....
我看着都觉得怕~~
人没事就好
以后大家开车的时候都注意保持车距啊，路况不好的时候尽量不要出去
我朋友最近也出了一起车祸，其他人都没事，偏偏一个刚来不久的f2，没有保险，受伤挺严重的，bless她！
bless。。。。。。
//bless