The rumor mongers on this thread really amazes (or disgusts?) me.
Isachris initiated the Match. If she decided to go back on her words and not donate her money any more, it's her money, her choice. However, she should have informed whoever is in charge her decision ASAP so the money could be gathered from some other sources.
The rumor mongers on this thread really amazes (or disgusts?) me.
Isachris initiated the Match. If she decided to go back on her words and not donate her money any more, it's her money, her choice. However, she should have informed whoever is in charge her decision ASAP so the money could be gathered from some other sources.
Couldn't she just feel so disappointed and did not want to work with you anymore?
If you only believe Tianya "doctor", it's your choice. But please don't spread whatever he said as truth, the "only" truth.
If you support euthanasia of handicapped children, I have nothing to say to you.
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We do not believe any reporting by those news agencies anymore. I read them, they all sound like the news release by children's hope, don't they.
As I know, 医政科的张科长 didn't receive medical training in this specialized field if he received any medical training at all. Tian jian children said 孩子诊断的主任医师 would only tell any information about the baby only to the parents. Therefore, I doubt credibility of your statement.
Most importantly, whether the baby should be given treatment to sustain the baby's life is a complex medical and personal decision. Wrong or right should be a judgment call by authorities, not you and me. You have no right to interfere a baby and a family's lives directly.
以下是引用wuyueliuhuo在3/10/2010 1:39:00 PM的发言： The rumor mongers on this thread really amazes (or disgusts?) me.
Isachris initiated the Match. If she decided to go back on her words and not donate her money any more, it's her money, her choice. However, she should have informed whoever is in charge her decision ASAP so the money could be gathered from some other sources.
She posted some message here to "disapprove" Yanlan. Did she tell anybody over there that she rescinded her matching call? So she assumes whoever is taking the lead to help the kid would visit here and see the message?
She posted some message here to "disapprove" Yanlan. Did she tell anybody over there that she rescinded her matching call? So she assumes whoever is taking the lead to help the kid would visit here and see the message?
She posted some message here to "disapprove" Yanlan. Did she tell anybody over there that she rescinded her matching call? So she assumes whoever is taking the lead to help the kid would visit here and see the message?
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Is this how you treat someone who contributed to your cause and did a lot of things for your cause? What kind of organization is this?
以下是引用wuyueliuhuo在3/10/2010 3:23:00 PM的发言： She posted some message here to "disapprove" Yanlan. Did she tell anybody over there that she rescinded her matching call? So she assumes whoever is taking the lead to help the kid would visit here and see the message?
If you don't trust the real hospital or doctors, but the ones without a name or face, it's your choices.
I don't believe statements from so called "hospitals" and "doctors" which you and children's hope have been using. Real hospitals and Real doctors do not make simple diagnoses before they seeing a patient. Real hospitals and real doctors do not disclose information of a patient to public when they agree to the family for confidentiality.
Sorry, laws are not established on hearsay. Sorry, you are not a law-enforcement agency.
what do you mean "your cause"?. I am not a member of OSCCF, only recently signed on to post here and Yaolan. You are so smart to put brand to anybody who disagree with you.
Oh, I remembered. You labeled yourself advocate for "the best interest of child" and labeled OSCCF "pro-life". What a joke, the hat "for the best interest of parents not matter good or bad" suits you much better.
以下是引用wuyueliuhuo在3/10/2010 3:32:00 PM的发言： what do you mean "your cause"?. I am not a member of OSCCF, only recently signed on to post here and Yaolan. You are so smart to put brand to anybody who disagree with you.
Oh, I remembered. You labeled yourself advocate for "the best interest of child" and labeled OSCCF "pro-life". What a joke, the hat "for the best interest of parents not matter good or bad" suits you much better.
what do you mean "your cause"?. I am not a member of OSCCF, only recently signed on to post here and Yaolan. You are so smart to put brand to anybody who disagree with you.
Oh, I remembered. You labeled yourself advocate for "the best interest of child" and labeled OSCCF "pro-life". What a joke, the hat "for the best interest of parents not matter good or bad" suits you much better.
The funding raising has nothing to do with OSCCF. You want to start another rumor?
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Did you read her statement of not supporting OSCCF? It was caused by Yaolan and Children's hope's actions during the incident. She does not support OSCCF. How could she support yanlan?
以下是引用wuyueliuhuo在3/10/2010 3:36:00 PM的发言： You labeled the person leading the fundraiser "liar"? What proof you have for that? Just because you can hide behind a computer doesn't make your false accusation any more decent.
what do you mean "your cause"?. I am not a member of OSCCF, only recently signed on to post here and Yaolan. You are so smart to put brand to anybody who disagree with you.
Oh, I remembered. You labeled yourself advocate for "the best interest of child" and labeled OSCCF "pro-life". What a joke, the hat "for the best interest of parents not matter good or bad" suits you much better.
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I made the categorization according to U.S. supreme courts' memo. I did not create those categories. It is you who are assuming parents has no interest of their children.
You labeled the person leading the fundraiser "liar"? What proof you have for that? Just because you can hide behind a computer doesn't make your false accusation any more decent.
以下是引用wuyueliuhuo在3/10/2010 3:44:00 PM的发言： what do you mean "your children's hope"? I have never had any contact with them ever. What you have been doing is spreading hearsay, switching definition of predefined words, selecting incomplete information to post as only "truth" intentionally. You claim to be in science. What a joke.
what do you mean "your children's hope"? I have never had any contact with them ever. What you have been doing is spreading hearsay, switching definition of predefined words, selecting incomplete information to post as the only "truth" intentionally. You claim to be in science. What a joke.
No. I don't belong to any of the organization involved. Believe it or not, it's your choice. You are pretty good at only believing in things you wanted to believe anyways.
以下是引用wuyueliuhuo在3/10/2010 3:46:00 PM的发言： No. I don't belong to any of the organization involved. Believe it or not, it's your choice. You are pretty good at only believing in things you wanted to believe anyways.
以下是引用wuyueliuhuo在3/10/2010 3:46:00 PM的发言： No. I don't belong to any of the organization involved. Believe it or not, it's your choice. You are pretty good at only believing in things you wanted to believe anyways.
以下是引用wuyueliuhuo在3/10/2010 3:46:00 PM的发言： No. I don't belong to any of the organization involved. Believe it or not, it's your choice. You are pretty good at only believing in things you wanted to believe anyways.
以下是引用wuyueliuhuo在3/10/2010 3:46:00 PM的发言： No. I don't belong to any of the organization involved. Believe it or not, it's your choice. You are pretty good at only believing in things you wanted to believe anyways.
[此贴子已经被作者于2010/3/10 15:45:52编辑过] 那你是在摇篮发起的捐款是不？ I mm说了她不会再继续支持任何摇篮网上的活动。
No. I don't belong to any of the organization involved. Believe it or not, it's your choice. You are pretty good at only believing in things you wanted to believe anyways.
what do you mean "your children's hope"? I have never had any contact with them ever. What you have been doing is spreading hearsay, switching definition of predefined words, selecting incomplete information to post as the only "truth" intentionally. You claim to be in science. What a joke.
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I said "I don't believe statements from so called "hospitals" and "doctors" which you and children's hope have been using"
As far as I understand, whatever money donated all went to the corresponding children that were asking for help. Why do you want to make it sound like any organization or volunteers had the money?
以下是引用wuyueliuhuo在3/10/2010 3:53:00 PM的发言： As far as I understand, whatever money donated all went to the corresponding children that were asking for help. Why do you want to make it sound like any organization or volunteers had the money?
what do you mean "your cause"?. I am not a member of OSCCF, only recently signed on to post here and Yaolan. You are so smart to put brand to anybody who disagree with you.
Oh, I remembered. You labeled yourself advocate for "the best interest of child" and labeled OSCCF "pro-life". What a joke, the hat "for the best interest of parents not matter good or bad" suits you much better.
以下是引用wuyueliuhuo在3/10/2010 3:53:00 PM的发言： As far as I understand, whatever money donated all went to the corresponding children that were asking for help. Why do you want to make it sound like any organization or volunteers had the money?
As far as I understand, whatever money donated all went to the corresponding children that were asking for help. Why do you want to make it sound like any organization or volunteers had the money?
As far as I understand, whatever money donated all went to the corresponding children that were asking for help. Why do you want to make it sound like any organization or volunteers had the money?
The only thing I said is it is not good to not inform the fundraiser organizer her decision.
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Is this how you treat a mm who shared a passion (it seems you don't understand what "cause" means, so I am using a different word) with you? Is this how you treat a mm who contributed a lot of money and efforts?
有图有真相，儿希会正在紧急删除证据中：
http://www.tianya.cn/publicforum/content/funinfo/1/1872510.shtml
说的通俗一点，儿戏卖儿三部曲：
1.在全国各福利院孤儿储备丰富的情况下，儿戏教头张雯利用吴建英全国各地孤儿院搜罗孤儿然后卖给外国人谋取暴利。
2.在全国各福利院孤儿储备吃紧的情况下，儿戏到全国各地搜罗并抢夺残疾儿，有先天疾病而卖给外国人谋取暴利。
3.在全国福利院孤儿以及全国残疾儿都吃紧的请款下，儿戏全国范围鼓励未婚妈妈不堕胎，并提供各方面援助让其把孩子生下来，然后转手给儿戏卖给外国人谋取暴利。
张雯总教头，也可称张富豪，冲锋陷阵，英姿飒爽。
哪里有“货源”（孩子），哪里就有张富豪辛勤奔波的身影。
中国各个福利院都留下过她忙碌的背影，四川地震的各个角落都留下过她鳄鱼的眼泪。。。。。张富豪，你辛苦啦！
这事还没完？
没完，我都希望儿希水妖太平老实点别搞事了，给孩子家人一个安静。
可人家不干，一会儿希发个紧急呼吁，要国务院，民政局所有的国字机构都为天津女婴行动起来。
一会儿摇篮妈妈支持儿希搞联名签名。
一会水妖给孩子爹写封公开信挑拔人家亲人感情。
没个消停。
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作者：免贵姓李 回复日期：2010-03-10 17:51:08
http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?boardid=331&topicid=715050&page=0&star=1
看看这个，早上一睁眼，就看到国际追杀到了华人和买买提。
心瓦凉瓦凉的。
以后谁还敢做点善事。。。
我最反感的就是摇篮的某一种口气。
“你什么都没做还敢质疑别人？水妖至少抢了孩子，摇篮网的妈妈们帮助过多少儿童……你有什么资格质疑她们……你们这群心理阴暗的人见不得别人做好事……”
拜托，你们怎么知道别人是不做好事的？就因为你们在摇篮注册了，你们就牛叉了，有理了，道德高尚到爆棚了？那别人没在摇篮注册但是捐了钱的是不是得先跟你晒个捐款单据才有资格跟你们说话啊？
退一万步说，就算别人一分钱没捐过，难道就没资格指责捐过钱的人的丑恶一面了？难道人做一次好事，光环就能保一辈子？难道你们捐点钱真的就能把后半辈子的错事都销了？
就好比有人捐了十万块给爱心机构，然后犯了法，是不是那些“没捐过钱”或者“没做过爱心事业”的甚至是“没在摇篮注册过”的人，就不能指责他们了？世上难道真的有爱心免死牌？
以前的爱心，并不能抵消后来的罪恶。善良的动机，并不能弥补造成的恶果。何况摇篮有些ID本身既无爱心，又无善良动机，上上下下反复刷屏给那些容易受蒙蔽的爱心妈妈们洗脑，真是令人齿冷。
每次看到天涯的暴料都觉得心更寒了一次．．．
鲁迅笔下吃人的人啊
http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?boardid=331&topicid=715050&page=0&star=1
看看这个，早上一睁眼，就看到国际追杀到了华人和买买提。
真恶心啊
爱心黄世仁到处追杀捐款杨白劳.
The rumor mongers on this thread really amazes (or disgusts?) me.
Isachris initiated the Match. If she decided to go back on her words and not donate her money any more, it's her money, her choice. However, she should have informed whoever is in charge her decision ASAP so the money could be gathered from some other sources.
你都知道这道理为啥还穷追不舍的？
既然有能力从别处募捐，为啥非等着这笔钱？？
爱心黄世仁到处追杀捐款杨白劳.
哈哈哈
The rumor mongers on this thread really amazes (or disgusts?) me.
Isachris initiated the Match. If she decided to go back on her words and not donate her money any more, it's her money, her choice. However, she should have informed whoever is in charge her decision ASAP so the money could be gathered from some other sources.
Couldn't she just feel so disappointed and did not want to work with you anymore?
Since some of you adores Tianya so much. Here is one post on it:
天津无肛宝宝的病不是疑难杂症，更不是绝症，她的病是可治的，只是能否完全康复、是否有后遗症的问题。我是一线的志愿者，这是和睦家医院的主治大夫亲口对我们表示的。你们可以不相信我的话，不相信水妖的话，那么
公开的孩子病情信息来源还有两个：
1、在北京治疗孩子的崔玉涛大夫已公开说明了孩子的病情，同时会诊的结果也已经有新闻报道。（链接地址：无肛女婴事件遭遇伦理困境 http://sciencenehuaren.us/skhtmlnews/2010/3/967.html）
2、天津儿童医院医政科的张科长和为孩子诊断的主任医师也表示，孩子的病并不是绝症，完全有机会康复，但过程会相对漫长一些。（新闻链接：追踪：无
肛宝宝转到北京治疗 不是绝症有机会康复 http://shehui.daqi.com/article/2815270_3.html）
新闻采访可都是公开发布的，被采访人是实际给孩子诊断的医生，难道他们的话不比网上随意猜测、遥感就能看病的大夫更可信？？？
天津延安医院在没有看到孩子病历的情况下，仅凭家长口说孩子不能治就接收孩子“临终关怀”了，这一点也是延安医院院长亲口向志愿者承认的，楼上那些说孩子临终关怀合理的人，你们真得不觉得这样做是草菅人命吗？？？
If you only believe Tianya "doctor", it's your choice. But please don't spread whatever he said as truth, the "only" truth.
If you support euthanasia of handicapped children, I have nothing to say to you.
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We do not believe any reporting by those news agencies anymore. I read them, they all sound like the news release by children's hope, don't they.
As I know, 医政科的张科长 didn't receive medical training in this specialized field if he received any medical training at all. Tian jian children said 孩子诊断的主任医师 would only tell any information about the baby only to the parents. Therefore, I doubt credibility of your statement.
Most importantly, whether the baby should be given treatment to sustain the baby's life is a complex medical and personal decision. Wrong or right should be a judgment call by authorities, not you and me. You have no right to interfere a baby and a family's lives directly.
The rumor mongers on this thread really amazes (or disgusts?) me.
Isachris initiated the Match. If she decided to go back on her words and not donate her money any more, it's her money, her choice. However, she should have informed whoever is in charge her decision ASAP so the money could be gathered from some other sources.
人家是捐款，不是欠账，做人不要太圣母
Since some of you adores Tianya so much. Here is one post on it:
作者：我是救救孩子 回复日期：2010-03-11 03:18:34
If she don't want donate anymore, say it.
If you don't trust the real hospital or doctors, but the ones without a name or face, it's your choices.
好像人家早就说了吧，不会再相信你们了。记得以前有帖子，专门发的就是质疑来着。都那么明白的说了，还要咋说？？
好像人家早就说了吧，不会再相信你们了。记得以前有帖子，专门发的就是质疑来着。都那么明白的说了，还要咋说？？
对呀，我记得标题里就表过个人放弃对这个组织的支持，都这样claim了还不够，还要到处发帖追讨
She posted some message here to "disapprove" Yanlan. Did she tell anybody over there that she rescinded her matching call? So she assumes whoever is taking the lead to help the kid would visit here and see the message?
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不是说了吗osccf吗？那么大字看不见？
She posted some message here to "disapprove" Yanlan. Did she tell anybody over there that she rescinded her matching call? So she assumes whoever is taking the lead to help the kid would visit here and see the message?
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你们的人现在不都追到这来了吗，还说什么摇篮的人不知道，不知道这儿跑这追款来
She posted some message here to "disapprove" Yanlan. Did she tell anybody over there that she rescinded her matching call? So she assumes whoever is taking the lead to help the kid would visit here and see the message?
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Is this how you treat someone who contributed to your cause and did a lot of things for your cause? What kind of organization is this?
爱心黄世仁到处追杀捐款杨白劳.
haha, 说得好啊
If she don't want donate anymore, say it.
If you don't trust the real hospital or doctors, but the ones without a name or face, it's your choices.
再说一遍，人家不是买东西，要了就要付钱。捐款本来就凭自愿，难道没有这笔钱，你们就不给孩子看病了？而且，难道一定要当面说，我不信你们，都是骗子？你要是愿意听，这里好多人都会跟你说，不用找 i 妹妹了。
我相信医生。干嘛不！但我不相信，说话有目的，为自己开脱，或者不是医生的医生。
而且，再说一遍，就算那个医生说过，从你们的嘴里出来，谁知道经过多少编辑，所以，我不信你们说的医生说的话。
对呀，我记得标题里就表过个人放弃对这个组织的支持，都这样claim了还不够，还要到处发帖追讨
钱呀！
She posted some message here to "disapprove" Yanlan. Did she tell anybody over there that she rescinded her matching call? So she assumes whoever is taking the lead to help the kid would visit here and see the message?
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难道，你明知道是骗子，还给钱?脑子里养金鱼呢吧
The funding raising has nothing to do with OSCCF. You want to start another rumor?
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彻底糊涂了，这笔钱到底是给摇篮还是osccf？（无论是以上哪个，人家都是明确了说不再支持了）
难道，你明知道是骗子，还给钱?脑子里养金鱼呢吧
再说一遍，人家不是买东西，要了就要付钱。捐款本来就凭自愿，难道没有这笔钱，你们就不给孩子看病了？而且，难道一定要当面说，我不信你们，都是骗子？你要是愿意听，这里好多人都会跟你说，不用找 i 妹妹了。
我相信医生。干嘛不！但我不相信，说话有目的，为自己开脱，或者不是医生的医生。
而且，再说一遍，就算那个医生说过，从你们的嘴里出来，谁知道经过多少编辑，所以，我不信你们说的医生说的话。
强re
到底是声讨重要。。还是给小朋友治病重要啊？没别的渠道筹钱啦？
这么追着喊着，有意思么。。。
If she don't want donate anymore, say it.
If you don't trust the real hospital or doctors, but the ones without a name or face, it's your choices.
I don't believe statements from so called "hospitals" and "doctors"
which you and children's hope have been using. Real hospitals and Real
doctors do not make simple diagnoses before they seeing a patient. Real
hospitals and real doctors do not disclose information of a patient to
public when they agree to the family for confidentiality.
Sorry, laws are not established on hearsay. Sorry, you are not a law-enforcement agency.
what do you mean "your cause"?. I am not a member of OSCCF, only recently signed on to post here and Yaolan. You are so smart to put brand to anybody who disagree with you.
Oh, I remembered. You labeled yourself advocate for "the best interest of child" and labeled OSCCF "pro-life". What a joke, the hat "for the best interest of parents not matter good or bad" suits you much better.
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这些人都不是isachris，你和他们再怎么说，这笔款子都不会出来。要我说，你就歇歇吧，看这架势，isachris这笔钱你们就当拿不到好了，就按isachris退出这次募捐活动处理结了。isachris要是哪天想起来又给捐了，那算是你们多筹到一笔钱，要是一直没给，你们也不会错误估计现在还需要筹多少钱。
要真心做慈善，与其在这里打口水仗， 不如找别人或者别的途径筹点钱。
If she don't want donate anymore, say it.
If you don't trust the real hospital or doctors, but the ones without a name or face, it's your choices.
人家早说了，对摇篮，儿希会，以及OSCCF都不再支持了。你们选择看不见，在这儿制造舆论声讨善心的捐款人，纠缠什么呢？有这功夫你再去找捐款来救那孩子。
what do you mean "your cause"?. I am not a member of OSCCF, only recently signed on to post here and Yaolan. You are so smart to put brand to anybody who disagree with you.
Oh, I remembered. You labeled yourself advocate for "the best interest of child" and labeled OSCCF "pro-life". What a joke, the hat "for the best interest of parents not matter good or bad" suits you much better.
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你跟谁说话呢？
如果你不属于任何组织，干嘛跑到这里要钱？给你自己？我们凭什么相信你？
如果属于那个组织，或者为那个组织干活，所以觉得自己还挺理直气壮，那干嘛不敢说，
还有，关于生命的讨论已经好几轮了，就不要再捡甘蔗渣嚼吧了
难不成人家不出钱，就不给小孩子治病啦？
到底是声讨重要。。还是给小朋友治病重要啊？没别的渠道筹钱啦？
这么追着喊着，有意思么。。。
就是搞不清楚追着人家要句话有意思吗？
首先人家已经很早就表明了不再信任yaolan和osccf。这么追着要是因为别地要不找钱了还是咋的？
what do you mean "your cause"?. I am not a member of OSCCF, only recently signed on to post here and Yaolan. You are so smart to put brand to anybody who disagree with you.
Oh, I remembered. You labeled yourself advocate for "the best interest of child" and labeled OSCCF "pro-life". What a joke, the hat "for the best interest of parents not matter good or bad" suits you much better.
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行了，旧事就别翻出来一遍又一遍了
摇篮那个小孩子治病的钱缺口还有3，4万，其实isa美女给不给都没什么区别
既然打着救治小孩的目的来发帖的，你们为什么还不抓紧时间去筹措别的钱去，反倒是紧盯着这5k不放呢？有这时间各个网站国际通缉，3，4万早该筹齐了吧
The funding raising has nothing to do with OSCCF. You want to start another rumor?
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Did you read her statement of not supporting OSCCF? It was caused by Yaolan and Children's hope's actions during the incident. She does not support OSCCF. How could she support yanlan?
难道，你明知道是骗子，还给钱?脑子里养金鱼呢吧
兔子姐姐你太有才了。
你跟谁说话呢？
如果你不属于任何组织，干嘛跑到这里要钱？给你自己？我们凭什么相信你？
如果属于那个组织，或者为那个组织干活，所以觉得自己还挺理直气壮，那干嘛不敢说，
还有，关于生命的讨论已经好几轮了，就不要再捡甘蔗渣嚼吧了
强re。我完全被搞糊涂了。
You labeled the person leading the fundraiser "liar"? What proof you have for that? Just because you can hide behind a computer doesn't make your false accusation any more decent.
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哇，你一定是眼睛不好使，最好陪副眼镜去，都懒得跟你倒腾。
好吧，就算退100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000步，你们不是那么骗子，我以为是，我不捐钱，行不行/
这些人都不是isachris，你和他们再怎么说，这笔款子都不会出来。要我说，你就歇歇吧，看这架势，isachris这笔钱你们就当拿不到好了，就按isachris退出这次募捐活动处理结了。isachris要是哪天想起来又给捐了，那算是你们多筹到一笔钱，要是一直没给，你们也不会错误估计现在还需要筹多少钱。
要真心做慈善，与其在这里打口水仗， 不如找别人或者别的途径筹点钱。
关键就在这里，是真心拿别人的钱，做不做善事还两说。
所以，打口水仗很重要。
再说了，他要是真有爱心，看来又在美国，干嘛不自己捐？
来这里，无非是几个目的：
继续炒作
骗钱
骗取同情
抹黑 i 妹妹。
what do you mean "your cause"?. I am not a member of OSCCF, only recently signed on to post here and Yaolan. You are so smart to put brand to anybody who disagree with you.
Oh, I remembered. You labeled yourself advocate for "the best interest of child" and labeled OSCCF "pro-life". What a joke, the hat "for the best interest of parents not matter good or bad" suits you much better.
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I made the categorization according to U.S. supreme courts' memo. I did not create those categories. It is you who are assuming parents has no interest of their children.
You labeled the person leading the fundraiser "liar"? What proof you have for that? Just because you can hide behind a computer doesn't make your false accusation any more decent.
[此贴子已经被作者于2010/3/10 15:36:31编辑过]
我挺文盲的 看不懂你说的E文 你能理清头绪说话么？
你跟谁说话呢？
如果你不属于任何组织，干嘛跑到这里要钱？给你自己？我们凭什么相信你？
如果属于那个组织，或者为那个组织干活，所以觉得自己还挺理直气壮，那干嘛不敢说，
还有，关于生命的讨论已经好几轮了，就不要再捡甘蔗渣嚼吧了
就是，再说了，难道这个项目就等着isa那笔钱吗，难道没有isa的说法回应，那些捐了钱的人也都要收回吗，
what do you mean "your children's hope"? I have never had any contact with them ever. What you have been doing is spreading hearsay, switching definition of predefined words, selecting incomplete information to post as only "truth" intentionally. You claim to be in science. What a joke.
那你凭什么要钱？？
就是，再说了，难道这个项目就等着isa那笔钱吗，难道没有isa的说法回应，那些捐了钱的人也都要收回吗，
没准就等着这笔钱开张呢
what do you mean "your children's hope"? I have never had any contact with them ever. What you have been doing is spreading hearsay, switching definition of predefined words, selecting incomplete information to post as the only "truth" intentionally. You claim to be in science. What a joke.
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那你明确说说，你代表谁吧，你代表谁在这发言追讨捐款
No. I don't belong to any of the organization involved. Believe it or not, it's your choice. You are pretty good at only believing in things you wanted to believe anyways.
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你英语在哪学的？ 好native 我儿子也要学 有老师推荐么？
No. I don't belong to any of the organization involved. Believe it or not, it's your choice. You are pretty good at only believing in things you wanted to believe anyways.
[此贴子已经被作者于2010/3/10 15:45:52编辑过]
那你凭什么要钱？？
No. I don't belong to any of the organization involved. Believe it or not, it's your choice. You are pretty good at only believing in things you wanted to believe anyways.
[此贴子已经被作者于2010/3/10 15:45:52编辑过]
http://pinyin.sogou.com/
No. I don't belong to any of the organization involved. Believe it or not, it's your choice. You are pretty good at only believing in things you wanted to believe anyways.
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那你凭什么要钱？？
那你凭什么要钱？？
那你凭什么要钱？？
那你凭什么要钱？？
那你凭什么要钱？？
那你凭什么要钱？？
那你凭什么要钱？？
那你凭什么要钱？？
那你凭什么要钱？？
那你凭什么要钱？？
那你凭什么要钱？？
那你凭什么要钱？？
你英语在哪学的？ 好native 我儿子也要学 有老师推荐么？
这该你老师讲才对
那你凭什么要钱？？
人家说了 为了儿童么 道德的制
高点
No. I don't belong to any of the organization involved. Believe it or not, it's your choice. You are pretty good at only believing in things you wanted to believe anyways.
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那你是在摇篮发起的捐款是不？
I mm说了她不会再继续支持任何摇篮网上的活动。
I only represent myself. Is that good enough for you?
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你代表你自己，那你有什么资格追讨isa的说法，她对你有任何的liability吗
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Did I ask for money?
The only thing I said is it is not good to not inform the fundraiser organizer her decision.
[此贴子已经被作者于2010/3/10 15:48:46编辑过]
你还是去打拼音吧 http://pinyin.sogou.com/
我们看着费劲 你打起来是不是也挺费劲的
我强烈支持ISA妹妹退捐， 吧所有以前捐掉的钱都让他们吐出来。 看看ISAMM这么多年捐了多少！ tnnd
介于一个Hermes Birkin 35cm togo 和 3个Chanel classic flap 之间
几千美元
为毛？
这短语 “not good to not” 我看着头晕。。
Did I ask for money?
The only thing I said is it is not good to not inform the fundraiser organizer her decision.
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那你凭什么来问?干你什么事?
那你凭什么来问?干你什么事?
那你凭什么来问?干你什么事?
那你凭什么来问?干你什么事?
那你凭什么来问?干你什么事?
那你凭什么来问?干你什么事?
那你凭什么来问?干你什么事?
那你凭什么来问?干你什么事?
那你凭什么来问?干你什么事?
关键就在这里，是真心拿别人的钱，做不做善事还两说。
所以，打口水仗很重要。
再说了，他要是真有爱心，看来又在美国，干嘛不自己捐？
来这里，无非是几个目的：
继续炒作
骗钱
骗取同情
抹黑 i 妹妹。
这个是我第一反应。
No. I don't belong to any of the organization involved. Believe it or not, it's your choice. You are pretty good at only believing in things you wanted to believe anyways.
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you said you belonged to yaolan, didn't you?
Did I ask for money?
The only thing I said is it is not good to not inform the fundraiser organizer her decision.
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为毛？
那你凭什么来问?干你什么事?
那你凭什么来问?干你什么事?
那你凭什么来问?干你什么事?
那你凭什么来问?干你什么事?
那你凭什么来问?干你什么事?
那你凭什么来问?干你什么事?
那你凭什么来问?干你什么事?
那你凭什么来问?干你什么事?
那你凭什么来问?干你什么事?
re
这短语 “not good to not” 我看着头晕。。
我反正看不懂。
what do you mean "your children's hope"? I have never had any contact with them ever. What you have been doing is spreading hearsay, switching definition of predefined words, selecting incomplete information to post as the only "truth" intentionally. You claim to be in science. What a joke.
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I said "I don't believe statements from so called "hospitals" and "doctors"
which you and children's hope have been using"
那你凭什么来问?干你什么事?
那你凭什么来问?干你什么事?
那你凭什么来问?干你什么事?
那你凭什么来问?干你什么事?
那你凭什么来问?干你什么事?
那你凭什么来问?干你什么事?
那你凭什么来问?干你什么事?
那你凭什么来问?干你什么事?
那你凭什么来问?干你什么事?
你在干什么？
As far as I understand, whatever money donated all went to the corresponding children that were asking for help. Why do you want to make it sound like any organization or volunteers had the money?
那么 朋友 我告诉你 你understand错了
做假帐的事请去考古
As far as I understand, whatever money donated all went to the corresponding children that were asking for help. Why do you want to make it sound like any organization or volunteers had the money?
我凭什么相信你？
我凭什么相信你？
我凭什么相信你？
我凭什么相信你？
我凭什么相信你？
what do you mean "your cause"?. I am not a member of OSCCF, only recently signed on to post here and Yaolan. You are so smart to put brand to anybody who disagree with you.
Oh, I remembered. You labeled yourself advocate for "the best interest of child" and labeled OSCCF "pro-life". What a joke, the hat "for the best interest of parents not matter good or bad" suits you much better.
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As far as I understand, whatever money donated all went to the corresponding children that were asking for help. Why do you want to make it sound like any organization or volunteers had the money?
大笑三声~
你说说中文吧，我这回真看不懂了，之前还猜的出，这次阅读理解能力实在达不到了
我早就猜晕了。
As far as I understand, whatever money donated all went to the corresponding children that were asking for help. Why do you want to make it sound like any organization or volunteers had the money?
你说说中文吧，我这回真看不懂了，之前还猜的出，这次阅读理解能力实在达不到了
you said you belonged to yaolan, didn't you?
我都明确问她了，就是刻意回避。
再说一遍，isa mm已经说得很清楚了，不会再支持摇篮上的任何活动。你不需要一个statement. 如果她来这里回个贴，说她不捐了，你还不是一样纠缠？
Did I ask for money?
The only thing I said is it is not good to not inform the fundraiser organizer her decision.
[此贴子已经被作者于2010/3/10 15:48:46编辑过]
好吧，那你就当这个isachris现在就是不乐意单独对话，而是选择在公共论坛上公开说明自己不支持不参加摇篮的任何活动。既然你现在来到华人，也知道isachris这次在华人公开表的态，那就麻烦你给那个fundraiser带个话，说isachris公开表示过不参加摇篮的活动了。
还是那句话，有网上打口水仗的功夫，不如去筹点款子真做慈善。
好吧，那你就当这个isachris现在就是不乐意单独对话，而是选择在公共论坛上公开说明自己不支持不参加摇篮的任何活动。既然你现在来到华人，也知道isachris这次在华人公开表的态，那就麻烦你给那个fundraiser带个话，说isachris公开表示过不参加摇篮的活动了。
还是那句话，有网上打口水仗的功夫，不如去筹点款子真做慈善。
他们国际讨债正热闹呢
As far as I understand, whatever money donated all went to the corresponding children that were asking for help. Why do you want to make it sound like any organization or volunteers had the money?
哎，你不是说你和任何组织都没关系吗，怎么钱的去向用途你知道的那么清楚，凭什么我们就要相信你，一个和这个组织，项目没关系的人说的话呢
Did I ask for money?
The only thing I said is it is not good to not inform the fundraiser organizer her decision.
[此贴子已经被作者于2010/3/10 15:48:46编辑过]
Is this how you treat a mm who shared a passion (it seems you don't understand what "cause" means, so I am using a different word) with you? Is this how you treat a mm who contributed a lot of money and efforts?
好吧，那你就当这个isachris现在就是不乐意单独对话，而是选择在公共论坛上公开说明自己不支持不参加摇篮的任何活动。既然你现在来到华人，也知道isachris这次在华人公开表的态，那就麻烦你给那个fundraiser带个话，说isachris公开表示过不参加摇篮的活动了。
还是那句话，有网上打口水仗的功夫，不如去筹点款子真做慈善。
我看她的目的本来也不是真做慈善，追到这里就是要抹黑人混淆视听的
好吧，那你就当这个isachris现在就是不乐意单独对话，而是选择在公共论坛上公开说明自己不支持不参加摇篮的任何活动。既然你现在来到华人，也知道isachris这次在华人公开表的态，那就麻烦你给那个fundraiser带个话，说isachris公开表示过不参加摇篮的活动了。
还是那句话，有网上打口水仗的功夫，不如去筹点款子真做慈善。
人家那是把华人上的人都当傻子呢，以为忽悠两下给ISACHRIS MM制造点儿舆论压力人就乖乖掏钱了，这口水仗可不是白打的。可惜呀，这位“五月流火”可以很傻很天真，咱不能呀，过街的老鼠再怎么粉饰它还是只老鼠。
自辩：无
代表言论：把东门当笑话看好了。我时不时上天涯去看看这些小丑上窜下跳的表演，又觉得浪费我的时间替天涯加点击率挺不值的。看它在这儿跳省了不少时间。
反对什么？赞成什么？在MITBBS上，我没有看到象有些天涯或者华人那些赞成杀婴的人。有些ID也不过就是以为天涯或者华人造的谣言是真的。谣言终究不过是谣言，贴来贴去也不会是真的。
点评：2月9日注册的新ID，第一个帖子却在3月7日发出。所有言论都是攻击一线扒皮帝东门麦兜及天涯众的。本姨夫只好鉴定，这是个护楼专用马甲——传说中摇篮妈妈们的御赐黄马褂！
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你说说中文吧，我这回真看不懂了，之前还猜的出，这次阅读理解能力实在达不到了
活到老学到老