我先翻译一下，如果有错请指出： 题目： Ziyi Zhang, where is the earthquake donation money?
短短20分钟那段：
“Within only 20 minutes, $500,000 has already been raised. The total amount including another $500,000 raised few days ago is about $1,000,000, or near 7,000,000 RMB” according to the reporter at the 2008 Cannes Film Festival
我先翻译一下，如果有错请指出： 题目： Ziyi Zhang, where is the earthquake donation money?
短短20分钟那段：
“Within only 20 minutes, $500,000 has already been raised. The total amount including another $500,000 raised few days ago is about $1,000,000, or near 7,000,000 RMB” according to the reporter at the 2008 Cannes Film Festival
At that time, the charity foundation hadn’t been set up yet. I had not thought that far. I had thought we raised some donation money, and I would take it back to China. I had thought it might be all cash, then I would bring it back to the Red Cross. I told them this is how the Red Cross offers help.
此图最下面 Please send your check (before May 23) Ling Lucas, Mobile: 0622226334 (After May 23) Susan Kam, Senior VP Bank of America Investment Service, lnc
底下字太小：狗之， Susan Kam Senior Vice President U. S. Trust, Bank of America Private Wealth Management Office of Supervisory Jurisdiction Banc of America Investment Services, Inc. 515 S Flower Street 27th Floor, CA9-512-27-08 Los Angeles, CA 90071 Phone: 213-621-7492 213-621-7492 Fax: 213-621-7447
和图片中一样，然后再看： Make checks out to “One Foundation” and mail to: Susan Kam Senior Vice President U.S. Trust, Bank of America Private Wealth Management Office of Supervisory Jurisdiction Banc of America Investment Services, Inc. 515 South Flower Street, Suite 2700 CA9-512-27-08 Los Angeles, CA 90071 Phone: 213-621-7492 213-621-7492 Fax: 213-621-7447
ote: In order to properly issue a receipt, please send an email to [email protected]after donation detailing name, amount, and address of donator. One Foundation is a tax-exempt, non-profit private foundation.
Can someone who have enough material to contact Nikki Finke at http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/ . If the story is creditable, she will blow it wide open. Ziyi Zhang is represented by William Morris Endeavor, one of the top 5 talent agencies in Hollywood. Lucas Ling is her manager in Asia.
This is purely a lecture on nonprofit law. It is not related to any particular case. So today I happened to have the chance to talk to a nonprofit law expert. He gave me a lecture on nonprofit law which I didn't have chance to learn in law school.
1) We don't have standing to bring private action towards a nonprofit. It's solely Attorney General or FBI's job. Attorney General or FBI will NOT take a case UNLESS they receive a lot of complaints (and from different sources) (my personal opinion, purely copying+pasting emails by 1000 people is not going to work. It's more like frivolous complaints or even harrassing the government agency.)
If someone wants to report a suspicious activity of a nonprofit, he needs to show that he has requested public disclosure from that nonprofit and was rejected.
2) It is hard to prove embezzlement, since it's hard to trace bank account and prove that someone within the nonprofit took that money for personal use.
3) Waiting 2 years (suppose xx foundation finally took out some money after public criticism) to use the money is not a crime. A nonprofit's business judgment is usually, if not always, deferred.
4) If a nonprofit presented to the public (donors) that they are raising money as a nonprofit, while at the time of the fundraising, the legal status of that organization WAS NOT a nonprofit (e.g. still a corporation), it is false presentation and possibly fraud.
5) If a nonprofit presented to the public (donors) that they are raising money for purpose 1, but actually use the donation for purpose 2, and purpose 1 <> purpose 2, it's false presentation and possibly fraud. How to determine whether purpose 1 <> purpose 2, it's by reasonable person standard (a reasonable person would consider purpose 2 is the same or within the range of purpose 1).
This is purely a lecture on nonprofit law. It is not related to any particular case. So today I happened to have the chance to talk to a nonprofit law expert. He gave me a lecture on nonprofit law which I didn't have chance to learn in law school.
1) We don't have standing to bring private action towards a nonprofit. It's solely Attorney General or FBI's job. Attorney General or FBI will NOT take a case UNLESS they receive a lot of complaints (and from different sources) (my personal opinion, purely copying+pasting emails by 1000 people is not going to work. It's more like frivolous complaints or even harrassing the government agency.)
If someone wants to report a suspicious activity of a nonprofit, he needs to show that he has requested public disclosure from that nonprofit and was rejected.
2) It is hard to prove embezzlement, since it's hard to trace bank account and prove that someone within the nonprofit took that money for personal use.
3) Waiting 2 years (suppose xx foundation finally took out some money after public criticism) to use the money is not a crime. A nonprofit's business judgment is usually, if not always, deferred.
4) If a nonprofit presented to the public (donors) that they are raising money as a nonprofit, while at the time of the fundraising, the legal status of that organization WAS NOT a nonprofit (e.g. still a corporation), it is false presentation and possibly fraud.
5) If a nonprofit presented to the public (donors) that they are raising money for purpose 1, but actually use the donation for purpose 2, and purpose 1 <> purpose 2, it's false presentation and possibly fraud. How to determine whether purpose 1 <> purpose 2, it's by reasonable person standard (a reasonable person would consider purpose 2 is the same or within the range of purpose 1).
what if they are raising money while at the time of fundraising, the organization has not been established yet?
This is purely a lecture on nonprofit law. It is not related to any particular case. So today I happened to have the chance to talk to a nonprofit law expert. He gave me a lecture on nonprofit law which I didn't have chance to learn in law school.
1) We don't have standing to bring private action towards a nonprofit. It's solely Attorney General or FBI's job. Attorney General or FBI will NOT take a case UNLESS they receive a lot of complaints (and from different sources) (my personal opinion, purely copying+pasting emails by 1000 people is not going to work. It's more like frivolous complaints or even harrassing the government agency.)
If someone wants to report a suspicious activity of a nonprofit, he needs to show that he has requested public disclosure from that nonprofit and was rejected.
2) It is hard to prove embezzlement, since it's hard to trace bank account and prove that someone within the nonprofit took that money for personal use.
3) Waiting 2 years (suppose xx foundation finally took out some money after public criticism) to use the money is not a crime. A nonprofit's business judgment is usually, if not always, deferred.
4) If a nonprofit presented to the public (donors) that they are raising money as a nonprofit, while at the time of the fundraising, the legal status of that organization WAS NOT a nonprofit (e.g. still a corporation), it is false presentation and possibly fraud.
5) If a nonprofit presented to the public (donors) that they are raising money for purpose 1, but actually use the donation for purpose 2, and purpose 1 <> purpose 2, it's false presentation and possibly fraud. How to determine whether purpose 1 <> purpose 2, it's by reasonable person standard (a reasonable person would consider purpose 2 is the same or within the range of purpose 1).
I already said numerous times---------call FBI, file complaints, the more people file complaints, the more likely government will step in. But don't file complaints with EXACTALY THE SAME materials. It's not going to work that way.
This is purely a lecture on nonprofit law. It is not related to any particular case. So today I happened to have the chance to talk to a nonprofit law expert. He gave me a lecture on nonprofit law which I didn't have chance to learn in law school.
1) We don't have standing to bring private action towards a nonprofit. It's solely Attorney General or FBI's job. Attorney General or FBI will NOT take a case UNLESS they receive a lot of complaints (and from different sources) (my personal opinion, purely copying+pasting emails by 1000 people is not going to work. It's more like frivolous complaints or even harrassing the government agency.)
If someone wants to report a suspicious activity of a nonprofit, he needs to show that he has requested public disclosure from that nonprofit and was rejected.
2) It is hard to prove embezzlement, since it's hard to trace bank account and prove that someone within the nonprofit took that money for personal use.
3) Waiting 2 years (suppose xx foundation finally took out some money after public criticism) to use the money is not a crime. A nonprofit's business judgment is usually, if not always, deferred.
4) If a nonprofit presented to the public (donors) that they are raising money as a nonprofit, while at the time of the fundraising, the legal status of that organization WAS NOT a nonprofit (e.g. still a corporation), it is false presentation and possibly fraud.
5) If a nonprofit presented to the public (donors) that they are raising money for purpose 1, but actually use the donation for purpose 2, and purpose 1 <> purpose 2, it's false presentation and possibly fraud. How to determine whether purpose 1 <> purpose 2, it's by reasonable person standard (a reasonable person would consider purpose 2 is the same or within the range of purpose 1).
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Simply, it is illegal for a community charity hide the account book.
This is purely a lecture on nonprofit law. It is not related to any particular case. So today I happened to have the chance to talk to a nonprofit law expert. He gave me a lecture on nonprofit law which I didn't have chance to learn in law school.
1) We don't have standing to bring private action towards a nonprofit. It's solely Attorney General or FBI's job. Attorney General or FBI will NOT take a case UNLESS they receive a lot of complaints (and from different sources) (my personal opinion, purely copying+pasting emails by 1000 people is not going to work. It's more like frivolous complaints or even harrassing the government agency.)
If someone wants to report a suspicious activity of a nonprofit, he needs to show that he has requested public disclosure from that nonprofit and was rejected.
2) It is hard to prove embezzlement, since it's hard to trace bank account and prove that someone within the nonprofit took that money for personal use.
3) Waiting 2 years (suppose xx foundation finally took out some money after public criticism) to use the money is not a crime. A nonprofit's business judgment is usually, if not always, deferred.
4) If a nonprofit presented to the public (donors) that they are raising money as a nonprofit, while at the time of the fundraising, the legal status of that organization WAS NOT a nonprofit (e.g. still a corporation), it is false presentation and possibly fraud.
5) If a nonprofit presented to the public (donors) that they are raising money for purpose 1, but actually use the donation for purpose 2, and purpose 1 <> purpose 2, it's false presentation and possibly fraud. How to determine whether purpose 1 <> purpose 2, it's by reasonable person standard (a reasonable person would consider purpose 2 is the same or within the range of purpose 1).
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Dear statefarm mm, thank you so much for your post. It clarifies my question, though I already drafted a five-page letter in English in the hope that the attorney general might consider a financial audit. The point is that we don't have much hard evidence. The news reports could be explained as inaccurate reporting. Photos and videos are limited to support our complaints at the time. Sadly, according to the documents I collected, #4 and #5 do not stand. In addition, they did not engage in any solicitation activity after May 15, 2009 when the registration at the State of California expired. All I am saying here is how frustrated I am right now. However, I will send out my letter with all the documents I collected no matter what. That's all I can do at this moment as a Chinese citizen. I wish all the people here can do their part.
Simply, it is illegal for a community charity hide the account book.
we need to show that we have requested public disclosure from the nonprofit and were rejected FIRST. It seems that I need to draft another letter.......
we need to show that we have requested public disclosure from the nonprofit and were rejected FIRST. It seems that I need to draft another letter.......
Dear statefarm mm, thank you so much for your post. It clarifies my question, though I already drafted a five-page letter in English in the hope that the attorney general might consider a financial audit. The point is that we don't have much hard evidence. The news reports could be explained as inaccurate reporting. Photos and videos are limited to support our complaints at the time. Sadly, according to the documents I collected, #4 and #5 do not stand. In addition, they did not engage in any solicitation activity after May 15, 2009 when the registration at the State of California expired. All I am saying here is how frustrated I am right now. However, I will send out my letter with all the documents I collected no matter what. That's all I can do at this moment as a Chinese citizen. I wish all the people here can do their part.
we need to show that we have requested public disclosure from the nonprofit and were rejected FIRST. It seems that I need to draft another letter....... you are right, support !!!!!!!!
No. According to legal documents, the foundation as a corporation is registered on 5/19/2008. then they filed an application for exemption with IRS. Although the ruling date is in July 2008, the letter from IRS said the effective date of exemption is 5/19/2008. On May 16, 2008, she was asking donation for Chinese Red Cross Foundation in New York, not in the name of ZIYI ZHANG FOUNDATION. All the other charitable efforts took place after May 19, 2008. Although her foundation's registration is not renewed and expired on May 15, 2009, it seems that she did not engage in any charitable solicitation after that. All we can do is writing letters to request for banking statement. If our request is denied, then we could send complaints to the Attorney General or FBI.
People keep on asking questions, and questions have been answered numerous times. The problem is very very few take action. It's not going anywhere.
To be honest, I have this feeling too. Quite frustrated right now. My concern is that if I wrote letter to the treasurer of the foundation to reveal the book keeping, they may reject my request due to the fact that I am not a donor. Statefarm mm, did the charity law expert say that request from general public also count?
刚才跟律师通电话了,大概说明了情况. 这个律师说,因为我们不是直接捐款人, 直接起诉有一定困难. 不过我们可以向 office of the attorney general 报案. 这个机构有一个专门监管慈善机构的部门, 保证慈善机构合法运营, 保证捐款合法利用. 而且有内部律师协助调查, 就是说不用我们花钱. 这个律师还很好心的说, 如果我们遇到困难再找他. 步骤 1. 向加州office of the attorney general 报案 表格: http://ag.ca.gov/charities/forms/charitable/ct9.pdf 可以选择匿名投诉
2. 把上诉表格和一切证据邮寄到: Registry of Charitable Trusts, Office of the Attorney General, P.O. Box 903447, Sacramento, CA 94203-4470.
3. 国内的同学可以传真到 attn: 1300 I STREET, SUITE 125P.O. BOX 903447 SACRAMENTO, CA 94203-4470 Public: 001 (916) 445-2021 传真: 001 (916) 444-3651
我想问问如果赵本山真的给章子怡洗白
在春晚之前和之后我们还能对此做些什么呢
请大家关注这个重要进展：
http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?boardid=358&topicid=701090
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高楼最后一页看不了了
我想问问如果赵本山真的给章子怡洗白
在春晚之前和之后我们还能对此做些什么呢
我们只能做自己能做的。闹这么大了，在美国合法让zzy 公开zzy foundation和她个人加州账户还是可以可。如果真有罪，她是否会被依法惩治，我们也是管不了的。很多犯法的人都能逃之网外。
高楼第1656页发生了什么？
进不去，是不是流量太大的原因？
高楼最后一页看不了了
我想问问如果赵本山真的给章子怡洗白
在春晚之前和之后我们还能对此做些什么呢
为啥赵本山要帮章
他有这么傻吗或者其他啥原因
进不去，是不是流量太大的原因？
对啊，为毛进不去呢~~~
为啥赵本山要帮章
他有这么傻吗或者其他啥原因
我只是在去年年底看到新闻，zzy跟赵见面，吃饭，赵还说跟zzy合作愉快。赵也许不知道发生了啥事情呢。
我们只能做自己能做的。闹这么大了，在美国合法让zzy 公开zzy foundation和她个人加州账户还是可以可。如果真有罪，她是否会被依法惩治，我们也是管不了的。很多犯法的人都能逃之网外。
结果如何无所谓
尽力就行了
不过我始终相信
天理昭彰
对啊，为毛进不去呢~~~
但是可以回复。是不是huaren回帖的上线到了？当初没有知道帖子能有这么多回帖？
http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?boardid=358&topicid=700885&page=1&star=3
（25楼）
接昨天的假设，我在www.dba-filings.com上要求查询这个sole proprietorship是否存在，这是我刚刚收到的资料
我要求查的ny county, ny是根据基金会在ny的地址得出的结论
尽管还是不能百分之百排除ny设立基金会的可能，但我觉得起码又一次证明现在集中火力调查ca的基金会的大方向是非常正确的
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好啊好啊！ 如果你的朋友没有空的话， 我们自己先整一个初稿也可以。把事情说清楚了就行。
好的, 我会尽快跟她联系.
MM如果有个电梯就好了, 我们可以避免把抒发感情和上传信息分开放, 好找...
进不去，是不是流量太大的原因？
不是
后面的可以进去,只有那1页进不去
结果如何无所谓
尽力就行了
不过我始终相信
天理昭彰
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晨报记者 彭 骥
章子怡个人捐款以补款致歉告一段落，但海外募款尘埃未定。今日9日，是章子怡31岁生日，在接受祝福同时，公众质疑依然不绝于耳。昨日，搜狐总裁张朝阳通过助理曾小姐表示，否认搜狐帮章子怡戛纳募款统计善款，“我们搜狐只是和其他媒体一样参与报道。(此事)完全和我们无关。”
海外募款部分，关爱儿童组织(简称CFC)发表声明证实与章子怡有合作，允诺40万美元，但款项未到账。纪灵灵则通过专访表示，章子怡海外募款包括口头承诺在内只有40万美元，其中现金和支票只有5万美元，搜狐为证，“募款活动是搜狐帮助做的，数目也是搜狐帮助统计的。”专访发表后，网友继续 “深挖”，找出很多戛纳募捐报道，其中提及的募捐金额有500万美元、200万美元、100万美元等版本。有网友称：“子怡，生日快乐！顺便问一句，你到底募了多少善款？从200万美元—100万美元—50万美元—40万美元—5万美元，2月9日，这个数字会不会变成5美元呢？”
昨日，一位随同章子怡在戛纳进行募捐的搜狐工作人员透露，当时他们只是协助章子怡完成了募捐，搜狐工作人员有五六个，对帮忙点清捐款数额一事并不清楚。
也许法律上得不到公正,但我们可以抵制她的一切!
章子怡的案子跨州还跨国，
所以州检察官是不能受理这种案子的
要找federal attorney
http://www.justice.gov/usao/cac/index.html
GEORGE S. CARDONA 是分管los angeles county—— where santa monica‘s located 的联邦检察长
整个网站还没有report crime的功能，也只有victim/witness report的地址，但是有一个email address：
thom mrozek，是分管public affair，他手下应该是管tax和criminal。
[email protected]
章子怡的案子和criminal沾不上边，应该和tax沾上边了。大家可以写信试试
不管结果如何,以后章子怡在公众中的形象是完了.只要她不还钱,那她就永远背着这个污点.
也许法律上得不到公正,但我们可以抵制她的一切!
No. I want to see her standing in front of court to clarify what happened with those money.
Boycott doesn't mean anything!
She should be taught that no one can be superior to the LAW!
我只是在去年年底看到新闻，zzy跟赵见面，吃饭，赵还说跟zzy合作愉快。赵也许不知道发生了啥事情呢。
虽然是讲捐款，但是应该跟zzy这事无关吧。http://www.popyard.com/cgi-mod/newspage.cgi?num=472229&r=0&v=0
小品《捐款》主要讲述的是赵本山与亲家王小利种地所得3万元盈余，本山在去银行途中看到一名妇女因儿子上不起学而乞讨，心一软，决定捐出3000元钱为其解围，谁料想因为多按了一个零，竟将3万元全部捐出。
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<![endif]-->我之前有怀疑过章可能在ny也设立基金会，于是自己也稍微调查了一下
http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?boardid=358&topicid=700885&page=1&star=3
（25楼）
接昨天的假设，我在www.dba-filings.com上要求查询这个sole proprietorship是否存在，这是我刚刚收到的资料
我要求查的ny county, ny是根据基金会在ny的地址得出的结论
尽管还是不能百分之百排除ny设立基金会的可能，但我觉得起码又一次证明现在集中火力调查ca的基金会的大方向是非常正确的
[此贴子已经被作者于2010/2/8 16:14:22编辑过]
辛苦了！
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/yQo6zzierNk/
我这里土豆屏蔽看不了的，天涯也刷不上去，能看这个视频的大家都看看吧
好的, 我会尽快跟她联系.
MM如果有个电梯就好了, 我们可以避免把抒发感情和上传信息分开放, 好找...
好的，到时候弄个电梯。
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/yQo6zzierNk/
http://6.cn/watch/12493653.html
No. I want to see her standing in front of court to clarify what happened with those money.
Boycott doesn't mean anything!
She should be taught that no one can be superior to the LAW!
ａｇｒｅｅ．
在前面我也说过
章子怡的案子跨州还跨国，
所以州检察官是不能受理这种案子的
要找federal attorney
http://www.justice.gov/usao/cac/index.html
GEORGE S. CARDONA 是分管los angeles county—— where santa monica‘s located 的联邦检察长
整个网站还没有report crime的功能，也只有victim/witness report的地址，但是有一个email address：
thom mrozek，是分管public affair，他手下应该是管tax和criminal。
[email protected]
章子怡的案子和criminal沾不上边，应该和tax沾上边了。大家可以写信试试
如果确实是1-2MILLION, zzy 这个案子够 CRIMINAL. 何况是慈善基金。
国内已经有TX做好了章子怡"诈捐"短片了.想麻烦请华人的MM翻译下.刚才一个心急开了个新楼,视频在
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/yQo6zzierNk/
http://6.cn/watch/12493653.html
这非常好啊，还说现金都会带回去给红十字会呢。配上了地震图片，和平民百姓，小学生甚至乞丐捐款图片，很感人呢。我们集思广益现在开始翻译吧。
国内已经有TX做好了章子怡"诈捐"短片了.想麻烦请华人的MM翻译下.刚才一个心急开了个新楼,视频在
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/yQo6zzierNk/
http://6.cn/watch/12493653.html
我先翻译一下，如果有错请指出：
题目：
Ziyi Zhang, where is the earthquake donation money?
短短20分钟那段：
“Within only 20 minutes, $500,000 has already been raised. The total amount including another $500,000 raised few days ago is about $1,000,000, or near 7,000,000 RMB” according to the reporter at the 2008 Cannes Film Festival
我先翻译一下，如果有错请指出：
题目：
Ziyi Zhang, where is the earthquake donation money?
短短20分钟那段：
“Within only 20 minutes, $500,000 has already been raised. The total amount including another $500,000 raised few days ago is about $1,000,000, or near 7,000,000 RMB” according to the reporter at the 2008 Cannes Film Festival
国内的童子们说要做个更新加强版～～～
如果确实是1-2MILLION, zzy 这个案子够 CRIMINAL. 何况是慈善基金。
i think you're right. 我开始的时候自己脑子糊涂，混淆了criminal case和civil case。我开始想成是civil case。如果她量刑，她的确符合criminal case。
At that time, the charity foundation hadn’t been set up yet. I had not thought that far.
I had thought we raised some donation money, and I would take it back to China. I had thought it might be all cash, then I would bring it back to the Red Cross. I told them this is how the Red Cross offers help.
国内的童子们说要做个更新加强版～～～
好，那么等你们做好后我再翻译。这个也可以先用用呢。
在前面我也说过
章子怡的案子跨州还跨国，
所以州检察官是不能受理这种案子的
要找federal attorney
http://www.justice.gov/usao/cac/index.html
GEORGE S. CARDONA 是分管los angeles county—— where santa monica‘s located 的联邦检察长
整个网站还没有report crime的功能，也只有victim/witness report的地址，但是有一个email address：
thom mrozek，是分管public affair，他手下应该是管tax和criminal。
[email protected]
章子怡的案子和criminal沾不上边，应该和tax沾上边了。大家可以写信试试
是的，很多同学都向 IRS 举报了。
完全不懂法律，进来看看进展
俺也不懂, 就是给几个律师打电话后逐渐清楚一些了...
我在国内上不了youtube,要让国际上知道最好能放到哪个上面去。。。。
really?? let me forward it to my good friends/co-workers.
我在国内上不了youtube,要让国际上知道最好能放到哪个上面去。。。。
可以在国内上传,然后让美国的同学放到 YOUTUBE. 你们做的片子好像已经在 YOUTUBE 了
我在国内上不了youtube,要让国际上知道最好能放到哪个上面去。。。。
辛苦了,这么晚还不睡觉? 我刚才吃饭去了,所以没有及时回帖,别见怪啊.
Re: The Most Heated Topic in China
zhangziyi说话为什么总是摇头晃脑的，一刻不停
看得我好累
的确是. 那个诈捐歌里面也是的..
直接跟irs举报她得了。不是说帐上有50万捐款？看看报税的时候列明白了没有。就算不用缴税，那些捐款人也要免税吧？
都有举报, 现在对方还行行动.大家有空也帮忙举报一下,很快.
人多了对方总有反映. 举报信息在第一楼有.
作者：戒指没了 回复日期：2010-02-09 15:54:08
此图最下面
Please send your check
(before May 23) Ling Lucas, Mobile: 0622226334
(After May 23) Susan Kam, Senior VP
Bank of America Investment Service, lnc
底下字太小：狗之，
Susan Kam
Senior Vice President
U. S. Trust, Bank of America Private Wealth Management
Office of Supervisory Jurisdiction
Banc of America Investment Services, Inc.
515 S Flower Street 27th Floor, CA9-512-27-08
Los Angeles, CA 90071
Phone: 213-621-7492 213-621-7492
Fax: 213-621-7447
和图片中一样，然后再看：
Make checks out to “One Foundation” and mail to:
Susan Kam
Senior Vice President
U.S. Trust, Bank of America Private Wealth Management Office of
Supervisory Jurisdiction Banc of America Investment Services, Inc.
515 South Flower Street, Suite 2700 CA9-512-27-08 Los Angeles, CA 90071
Phone: 213-621-7492 213-621-7492
Fax: 213-621-7447
ote: In order to properly issue a receipt, please send an email to [email protected] after donation detailing name, amount, and address of donator. One Foundation is a tax-exempt, non-profit private foundation.
http://www.onefoundation.cn/html/en/beneficence_02.htm
呵呵，和壹基金是一个掌柜。
Ps: 狗壹基金证实一下，中文网页上的大图片赫然韩三爷和田奶奶在基金李左右。世界果然是圆的。
美国律师应该找找susan kam问问了。而且国际章不光慈善晚会还有广告募捐！
的确是这样的。
作者：画角无声 回复日期：2010-02-10 00:07:59
章子怡基金会到底有没有file extension呢？
还是说，只要网站显示的是current就表示她已经file过了？
她08年的时候的确是filed过的，09年的应该还没有
网站显示current，是concurrent update么？
妞妞mm说她已经draft letter勒，我们看看她那边怎么说
她08年的时候的确是filed过的，09年的应该还没有
过期了问题也不大,就是补钱补手续. 但是侵吞捐款嫌疑这个严重得多.
作者：清冽秋阳 回复日期：2010-02-10 10:36:19
到http://www.deadline.com/about-dhd/去看了下daimer_chrysler所推荐的Nikki Finke, 发现这位简直是好莱坞的不折不扣的“无冕之王，”“美国最有影响力的25女性之一”最擅长曝光大人物的小黑暗，有些猫腻的，即使是好莱坞高管，都谈之色变。被称为“好莱坞的执法官.” 具体的就不翻译了，但能看出来她绝对是在好莱坞，及至美国，揭开骗募事件的种子选手。
可以把稿件和材料email给Nikki Finke:
[email protected].
也可以把资料提交她的网站：
http://www.deadline.com/tip-line/
程序非常简便：甚至可以不提供姓名，不提供电邮，不提供主旨，只发材料都行。不过，我们尽量还是把内容充实的材料给她，最起码，是我们的姿态：这件事，很严重！
天啊，我正在写信，就又去查了一下，他们2月9日才renew registration. 真的太无耻了，还口口声声说没过期！！！！！
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真是太不要脸了！
天啊，我正在写信，就又去查了一下，他们2月9日才renew registration. 真的太无耻了，还口口声声说没过期！！！！！
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所以更应该加紧查了。
天啊，我正在写信，就又去查了一下，他们2月9日才renew registration. 真的太无耻了，还口口声声说没过期！！！！！
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是否过期不重要的. 关键是多少钱,钱去哪里了. 同学做的视频要改改.
是否过期不重要的. 关键是多少钱,钱去哪里了. 同学做的视频要改改.
原来是没有钱的啊？！
天啊，我正在写信，就又去查了一下，他们2月9日才renew registration. 真的太无耻了，还口口声声说没过期！！！！！
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章子怡太不要脸啦，这个贱人
the form shows the income of 2009, not 2008. so where is the money raised in France??
no, that's revenue in 2008 according to all the forms I obtained.
the form shows the income of 2009, not 2008. so where is the money raised in France??
这个是2008年的收入,跟税表上的一致,不过这笔钱是她2008年11月在上海慈善晚会上拍卖手表所得(人民币32万),本应捐给上海慈善组织的.
天啊，我正在写信，就又去查了一下，他们2月9日才renew registration. 真的太无耻了，还口口声声说没过期！！！！！
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谁给贴到天涯去
天涯的TX看过来 -- 在顶贴的同时，请行动起来：
FBI：https://tips.fbi.gov/ -- 只需提供email。
FBI北京的联络处: American Embassy: 011-8610-6532-3831
纳募捐的人Christian Slater的留言簿: http://www.christianslater.com/book/index.php
美联社 AP
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邮政编码： 100600
电 话： 65323743、65323559
传 真： 65323419
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邮政编码： 100004
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邮政编码： 100600
电 话： 85322141
传 真： 85322141
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电 话： 65322671、65324977、65324976
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电 话： 65326013 65326048 65324381 65325397
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电话：65323857 65323290
传真：65323290
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电 话： 65327172
传 真： 65327172 KQED电台
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电话：64000189
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传 真： 65321814
天涯的TX看过来 -- 在顶贴的同时，请行动起来：
FBI：https://tips.fbi.gov/ -- 只需提供email。
FBI北京的联络处: American Embassy: 011-8610-6532-3831
天涯的TX看过来 -- 在顶贴的同时，请行动起来：
FBI：https://tips.fbi.gov/ -- 只需提供email。
FBI北京的联络处: American Embassy: 011-8610-6532-3831
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Washington Post
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Hollywood Reporter
Reuters
Washington Times website
www.nydailynews.com
http://www.globalpost.com/
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http://www.tmz.com/tips
[email protected]
[email protected];
[email protected]
天涯的TX看过来 -- 在顶贴的同时，请行动起来：
FBI：https://tips.fbi.gov/ -- 只需提供email。
FBI北京的联络处: American Embassy: 011-8610-6532-3831
纳募捐的人Christian Slater的留言簿: http://www.christianslater.com/book/index.php
美联社 AP
地址： 建国门外外交公寓6-2-22
邮政编码： 100600
电 话： 65323743、65323559
传 真： 65323419
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地址： 建外大街1号国贸大厦2座35楼3515-3518室
邮政编码： 100004
电 话： 65053339（总机）
65050573、65050587、65050574、65050586
传 真： 65058345、65058346
合众国际社 UPI
地址： 建国门外外交公寓7-1-71
邮政编码： 100600
电 话： 85322141
传 真： 85322141
道?琼斯金融通讯社 Dow Jones Newswires
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邮政编码： 100020
电 话： 65885848
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俺去那个留言本留言了,好cute的页面, 大概花了半分钟不到,就是copy首页的举报信, 大家加油啊
在天涯上看见的.不知道华人的MM们知道了吗?
daimer_chrysler 又提供了一个重量级的信息和方向：
Some other info:
Can someone who have enough material to contact Nikki Finke at http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/ . If the story is creditable, she will blow it wide open. Ziyi Zhang is represented by William Morris Endeavor, one of the top 5 talent agencies in Hollywood. Lucas Ling is her manager in Asia.
译文： 有没有人手头资料翔实，可以联系上 Nikki Finke http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/.如果稿子证据确凿，她绝对能打开局面。章的经纪人是William Morris Endeavor，好莱坞的排名前五的代理人。Jll只是她在亚洲的经纪人。
国内现在写稿子的同学，可以跟进这个方向！谢谢daimer_chrysler!
到http://www.deadline.com/about-dhd/去看了下daimer_chrysler所推荐的Nikki Finke, 发现这位简直是好莱坞的不折不扣的“无冕之王，”“美国最有影响力的25女性之一”最擅长曝光大人物的小黑暗，有些猫腻的，即使是好莱坞高管，都谈之色变。被称为“好莱坞的执法官.” 具体的就不翻译了，但能看出来她绝对是在好莱坞，及至美国，揭开骗募事件的种子选手。
有没有这个nikki的email啊
This is purely a lecture on nonprofit law. It is not related to any particular case. So today I happened to have the chance to talk to a nonprofit law expert. He gave me a lecture on nonprofit law which I didn't have chance to learn in law school.
1) We don't have standing to bring private action towards a nonprofit. It's solely Attorney General or FBI's job. Attorney General or FBI will NOT take a case UNLESS they receive a lot of complaints (and from different sources) (my personal opinion, purely copying+pasting emails by 1000 people is not going to work. It's more like frivolous complaints or even harrassing the government agency.)
If someone wants to report a suspicious activity of a nonprofit, he needs to show that he has requested public disclosure from that nonprofit and was rejected.
2) It is hard to prove embezzlement, since it's hard to trace bank account and prove that someone within the nonprofit took that money for personal use.
3) Waiting 2 years (suppose xx foundation finally took out some money after public criticism) to use the money is not a crime. A nonprofit's business judgment is usually, if not always, deferred.
4) If a nonprofit presented to the public (donors) that they are raising money as a nonprofit, while at the time of the fundraising, the legal status of that organization WAS NOT a nonprofit (e.g. still a corporation), it is false presentation and possibly fraud.
5) If a nonprofit presented to the public (donors) that they are raising money for purpose 1, but actually use the donation for purpose 2, and purpose 1 <> purpose 2, it's false presentation and possibly fraud. How to determine whether purpose 1 <> purpose 2, it's by reasonable person standard (a reasonable person would consider purpose 2 is the same or within the range of purpose 1).
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JMs,
This is purely a lecture on nonprofit law. It is not related to any particular case. So today I happened to have the chance to talk to a nonprofit law expert. He gave me a lecture on nonprofit law which I didn't have chance to learn in law school.
1) We don't have standing to bring private action towards a nonprofit. It's solely Attorney General or FBI's job. Attorney General or FBI will NOT take a case UNLESS they receive a lot of complaints (and from different sources) (my personal opinion, purely copying+pasting emails by 1000 people is not going to work. It's more like frivolous complaints or even harrassing the government agency.)
If someone wants to report a suspicious activity of a nonprofit, he needs to show that he has requested public disclosure from that nonprofit and was rejected.
2) It is hard to prove embezzlement, since it's hard to trace bank account and prove that someone within the nonprofit took that money for personal use.
3) Waiting 2 years (suppose xx foundation finally took out some money after public criticism) to use the money is not a crime. A nonprofit's business judgment is usually, if not always, deferred.
4) If a nonprofit presented to the public (donors) that they are raising money as a nonprofit, while at the time of the fundraising, the legal status of that organization WAS NOT a nonprofit (e.g. still a corporation), it is false presentation and possibly fraud.
5) If a nonprofit presented to the public (donors) that they are raising money for purpose 1, but actually use the donation for purpose 2, and purpose 1 <> purpose 2, it's false presentation and possibly fraud. How to determine whether purpose 1 <> purpose 2, it's by reasonable person standard (a reasonable person would consider purpose 2 is the same or within the range of purpose 1).
what if they are raising money while at the time of fundraising, the organization has not been established yet?
what if they are raising money while at the time of fundraising, the organization has not been established yet?
He already addressed that issue. See bullet #4.
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JMs,
This is purely a lecture on nonprofit law. It is not related to any particular case. So today I happened to have the chance to talk to a nonprofit law expert. He gave me a lecture on nonprofit law which I didn't have chance to learn in law school.
1) We don't have standing to bring private action towards a nonprofit. It's solely Attorney General or FBI's job. Attorney General or FBI will NOT take a case UNLESS they receive a lot of complaints (and from different sources) (my personal opinion, purely copying+pasting emails by 1000 people is not going to work. It's more like frivolous complaints or even harrassing the government agency.)
If someone wants to report a suspicious activity of a nonprofit, he needs to show that he has requested public disclosure from that nonprofit and was rejected.
2) It is hard to prove embezzlement, since it's hard to trace bank account and prove that someone within the nonprofit took that money for personal use.
3) Waiting 2 years (suppose xx foundation finally took out some money after public criticism) to use the money is not a crime. A nonprofit's business judgment is usually, if not always, deferred.
4) If a nonprofit presented to the public (donors) that they are raising money as a nonprofit, while at the time of the fundraising, the legal status of that organization WAS NOT a nonprofit (e.g. still a corporation), it is false presentation and possibly fraud.
5) If a nonprofit presented to the public (donors) that they are raising money for purpose 1, but actually use the donation for purpose 2, and purpose 1 <> purpose 2, it's false presentation and possibly fraud. How to determine whether purpose 1 <> purpose 2, it's by reasonable person standard (a reasonable person would consider purpose 2 is the same or within the range of purpose 1).
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Newspaper report can hardly be used as evidence. :( Pictures would be a lot better
以下是引用buttercup在2/10/2010 3:18:00 PM的发言：
zzy当时是打着中国红十字会总会的名义募捐的,可是这钱并没有给中国红十字会总会,这是fraud吧。
I already said numerous times---------call FBI, file complaints, the more people file complaints, the more likely government will step in. But don't file complaints with EXACTALY THE SAME materials. It's not going to work that way.
以下是引用buttercup在2/10/2010 3:22:00 PM的发言：
其实她现在再怎么补，FBI要查，肯定能查出来。关键是怎么样才能让FBI插手。
其实她现在再怎么补，FBI要查，肯定能查出来。关键是怎么样才能让FBI插手。
IRS都不能插手吗, 如果有人举报TAX FRAUD?
IRS都不能插手吗, 如果有人举报TAX FRAUD?
People keep on asking questions, and questions have been answered numerous times. The problem is very very few take action. It's not going anywhere.
JMs,
This is purely a lecture on nonprofit law. It is not related to any particular case. So today I happened to have the chance to talk to a nonprofit law expert. He gave me a lecture on nonprofit law which I didn't have chance to learn in law school.
1) We don't have standing to bring private action towards a nonprofit. It's solely Attorney General or FBI's job. Attorney General or FBI will NOT take a case UNLESS they receive a lot of complaints (and from different sources) (my personal opinion, purely copying+pasting emails by 1000 people is not going to work. It's more like frivolous complaints or even harrassing the government agency.)
If someone wants to report a suspicious activity of a nonprofit, he needs to show that he has requested public disclosure from that nonprofit and was rejected.
2) It is hard to prove embezzlement, since it's hard to trace bank account and prove that someone within the nonprofit took that money for personal use.
3) Waiting 2 years (suppose xx foundation finally took out some money after public criticism) to use the money is not a crime. A nonprofit's business judgment is usually, if not always, deferred.
4) If a nonprofit presented to the public (donors) that they are raising money as a nonprofit, while at the time of the fundraising, the legal status of that organization WAS NOT a nonprofit (e.g. still a corporation), it is false presentation and possibly fraud.
5) If a nonprofit presented to the public (donors) that they are raising money for purpose 1, but actually use the donation for purpose 2, and purpose 1 <> purpose 2, it's false presentation and possibly fraud. How to determine whether purpose 1 <> purpose 2, it's by reasonable person standard (a reasonable person would consider purpose 2 is the same or within the range of purpose 1).
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Simply, it is illegal for a community charity hide the account book.
能请律师的那位MM尽快吧，晚了难度就更大了！！！！！！
是的
JMs,
This is purely a lecture on nonprofit law. It is not related to any particular case. So today I happened to have the chance to talk to a nonprofit law expert. He gave me a lecture on nonprofit law which I didn't have chance to learn in law school.
1) We don't have standing to bring private action towards a nonprofit. It's solely Attorney General or FBI's job. Attorney General or FBI will NOT take a case UNLESS they receive a lot of complaints (and from different sources) (my personal opinion, purely copying+pasting emails by 1000 people is not going to work. It's more like frivolous complaints or even harrassing the government agency.)
If someone wants to report a suspicious activity of a nonprofit, he needs to show that he has requested public disclosure from that nonprofit and was rejected.
2) It is hard to prove embezzlement, since it's hard to trace bank account and prove that someone within the nonprofit took that money for personal use.
3) Waiting 2 years (suppose xx foundation finally took out some money after public criticism) to use the money is not a crime. A nonprofit's business judgment is usually, if not always, deferred.
4) If a nonprofit presented to the public (donors) that they are raising money as a nonprofit, while at the time of the fundraising, the legal status of that organization WAS NOT a nonprofit (e.g. still a corporation), it is false presentation and possibly fraud.
5) If a nonprofit presented to the public (donors) that they are raising money for purpose 1, but actually use the donation for purpose 2, and purpose 1 <> purpose 2, it's false presentation and possibly fraud. How to determine whether purpose 1 <> purpose 2, it's by reasonable person standard (a reasonable person would consider purpose 2 is the same or within the range of purpose 1).
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Dear statefarm mm, thank you so much for your post. It clarifies my question, though I already drafted a five-page letter in English in the hope that the attorney general might consider a financial audit. The point is that we don't have much hard evidence. The news reports could be explained as inaccurate reporting. Photos and videos are limited to support our complaints at the time. Sadly, according to the documents I collected, #4 and #5 do not stand. In addition, they did not engage in any solicitation activity after May 15, 2009 when the registration at the State of California expired. All I am saying here is how frustrated I am right now. However, I will send out my letter with all the documents I collected no matter what. That's all I can do at this moment as a Chinese citizen. I wish all the people here can do their part.
Simply, it is illegal for a community charity hide the account book.
we need to show that we have requested public disclosure from the nonprofit and were rejected FIRST. It seems that I need to draft another letter.......
we need to show that we have requested public disclosure from the nonprofit and were rejected FIRST. It seems that I need to draft another letter.......
辛苦MM了, 永远支持你.
Dear statefarm mm, thank you so much for your post. It clarifies my question, though I already drafted a five-page letter in English in the hope that the attorney general might consider a financial audit. The point is that we don't have much hard evidence. The news reports could be explained as inaccurate reporting. Photos and videos are limited to support our complaints at the time. Sadly, according to the documents I collected, #4 and #5 do not stand. In addition, they did not engage in any solicitation activity after May 15, 2009 when the registration at the State of California expired. All I am saying here is how frustrated I am right now. However, I will send out my letter with all the documents I collected no matter what. That's all I can do at this moment as a Chinese citizen. I wish all the people here can do their part.
她募捐的时候基金会还没成立, #4不能站住脚吗?
we need to show that we have requested public disclosure from the nonprofit and were rejected FIRST. It seems that I need to draft another letter.......
you are right, support !!!!!!!!
她募捐的时候基金会还没成立, #4不能站住脚吗?
No. According to legal documents, the foundation as a corporation is registered on 5/19/2008. then they filed an application for exemption with IRS. Although the ruling date is in July 2008, the letter from IRS said the effective date of exemption is 5/19/2008. On May 16, 2008, she was asking donation for Chinese Red Cross Foundation in New York, not in the name of ZIYI ZHANG FOUNDATION. All the other charitable efforts took place after May 19, 2008. Although her foundation's registration is not renewed and expired on May 15, 2009, it seems that she did not engage in any charitable solicitation after that. All we can do is writing letters to request for banking statement. If our request is denied, then we could send complaints to the Attorney General or FBI.
People keep on asking questions, and questions have been answered numerous times. The problem is very very few take action. It's not going anywhere.
To be honest, I have this feeling too. Quite frustrated right now. My concern is that if I wrote letter to the treasurer of the foundation to reveal the book keeping, they may reject my request due to the fact that I am not a donor. Statefarm mm, did the charity law expert say that request from general public also count?
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步骤
1. 向加州office of the attorney general 报案
表格: http://ag.ca.gov/charities/forms/charitable/ct9.pdf
可以选择匿名投诉
2. 把上诉表格和一切证据邮寄到:
Registry of Charitable Trusts, Office of the Attorney General, P.O. Box 903447, Sacramento, CA 94203-4470.
3. 国内的同学可以传真到
attn: 1300 I STREET, SUITE 125P.O. BOX 903447 SACRAMENTO, CA 94203-4470
Public: 001 (916) 445-2021
传真: 001 (916) 444-3651
http://ag.ca.gov/charities.php