hahahahahahah "The authorities took advantage of the situation to resolve the question of disorderly pig rearing in Egypt," he said.
No cases of swine flu have been detected in Egypt. Egypt's agriculture ministry says there are 250 000 pigs in the country, belonging to and eaten by members of the Coptic Christian minority. The pigs live in Cairo slums inhabited mostly by Christian rubbish collectors.
co迷惑 [Note: It is now apparent that the 2009 influenza A (H1N1) virus currently circulating in humans, though genetically linked to swine influenza viruses, has not been found in swine and that swine do not appear to be involved in the ongoing epidemic. For that reason, and in keeping with usage by WHO and other agencies, ProMED will drop the term "swine flu" from our coverage. We expect the term will continue to be used by the media and in common usage for some time. - Mod.LM]
US drops "swine flu" name --------------------------- The deadly disease formerly known as "swine flu" is now called the "2009 H1N1 flu," US officials said Wednesday [29 Apr 2009], as they battled against a worldwide clampdown on US pork exports. Bidding to distance the hybrid influenza from pigs, which is responsible for only one part of the strain, US officials again insisted that people could not catch H1N1 from eating pork.
The new designation was in the script at briefings by Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sibelius, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention acting chief Richard Besser and other US officials. "We're calling it the 2009 H1N1 flu. That's now the name for it,'' Besser said.
Pig farmers in the United States, Canada and Mexico -- the disease's epicenter -- are reeling from bans on their exports of live swine and pork meat imposed by several nations including Russia and China. Despite the name swine flu, no pigs in the United States are reported to be suffering from the disease, which also has components from influenza strains afflicting people and birds in 3 continents. [More recent sequence analyses suggest that the 2009 H1N1 influenza virus is comprised of components derived from 3 different strains of swine A (H1N1) influenza virus, See ProMED-mail post: Influenza A (H1N1) "swine flu": worldwide (06). - Mod.CP]
Interview with Ruben Donis -------------------------- Virologist Ruben Donis, chief of the molecular virology and vaccines branch at the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention [CDC], spoke with Science Insider at length last night [28 Apr 2009] about the swine flu virus causing the current outbreak. CDC's early analyses raise several provocative possibilities. The stage appears to have been set for this human outbreak by an outbreak over the past decade of flu viruses in swine that combine strains from several species. The 1st infected human may not even have been in North America, let alone Mexico. Patient samples from Mexico taken over the past several months reveal that this swine flu clearly exploded in late March [2009], suggesting that it was not rapidly spreading in that country, undetected, for very long.
Donis discussed the genetics of the virus -- the clues in this mystery -- in detail. These include several of its 8 genes, which code for surface proteins hemagglutinin (H) and neuraminidase (N), the matrix that surrounds the nucleus, the nucleoprotein itself, and 3 polymerase enzymes called PA, PB1, and PB2.
We know it's quite similar to viruses that were circulating in the United States and are still circulating in the United States and that are self-limiting, and they usually only are found in Midwestern states where there is swine farming. There's only one well-documented case where the infection spread from one human to another. What we know is that it is not common that there is sustained transmission in people. Hemagglutinin, neuraminidase, and matrix, the 3 genes that have the most public health interest, were sequenced, and then the whole genome was completed. There similarities of about 94 percent in the hemagglutinin [H] to the nearest strain we know. It's almost equidistant to swine viruses from the United States and Eurasia. And it's a lonely branch there. It doesn't have any close relatives.
The neuraminidase gene has close relatives in Asia. It's also swine. The matrix gene same as neuraminidase.
For the avian and human sequences we have to step back 10 years to 1998, actually. Chris Olsen is one of the first that saw it, and we saw the same in a virus from Nebraska and Richard Webby and Robert Webster in Memphis saw it, too. There were unprecedented outbreaks of influenza in the swine population. It was an H3 virus. The disease was not very severe in healthy pigs. Everyone was very curious about these H3 viruses. Since 1918, normally it's only H1N1 in swine. Then all of a sudden there's H3N2 in swine in the Midwestern US. When people analyzed what was inside those viruses, they realized there were 3 different things. The PB1 gene, that was human. H3 and N2 also were human. The PA and PB2, the 2 polymerase genes, were of avian flu. The rest were typical North American swine viruses. Those strains were the so-called triple reassortants.
The reality is good molecular surveillance in the pigs started in the 1970s. So if there were strains that were not very dominant between the 1930s and the '70s, we wouldn't have detected them. This triple reassortant was very successful and took over and dominated the picture-to the point where the classical H1N1 was almost extinct. H3 was a different subtype, so there was no immunity in the pigs. It was probably that they had new polymerase genes, too. The neuraminidase and the matrix are the newest to be seen in North America. They were not part of the team -- I talk about flu virus as teams of genes. There are 8 players. They have these 2 new players from Asia.
One little detail we haven't discussed is [that] these Midwestern viruses were exported to Asia. Korea and many countries import from the US. Swine flu is economically not such a big deal that many countries don't check for it. There are some parts of the puzzle I don't have the answer to [such as the European lineage contributions]. The genetic lineages of Asia and Europe mix quite a bit.
[The question of the appearance of this virus in Mexico is unresolved], but the mixing probably did not occur in Mexico. The amazing thing is the hemagglutinins we are seeing in this strain are a lonely branch that has been evolving somewhere and we didn't know about it.
We have [a] 6 percent or higher percentage difference in neuraminidases. You have multiple amino acids that differ. And single amino acid changes can change receptor specificity. When you have so many changes, you don't know which ones are responsible.
One traditional approach is to take advantage of viral modules that allow you to assemble different teams, to make reassortants that take a virus say from North America that doesn't transmit, and you swap one gene from the virus that does transmit. If the hypothesis is that hemagglutinin is responsible, you put in the background of the genes from the old virus. You need an animal model, usually the ferret.
[The current outbreak strains] from Mexico and North America are very, very similar. Many genes are identical. In the 8 or 9 viruses we've sequenced, there is nothing different. We've received 300 samples from Mexico, and these cover the span of February, March, and April [2009]. And you look at flu A, traditionally it's A/H1 or A/H3 or it's B up until the end of March. There are 2 or 3 cases up to [the] last days of March that are swine. Then in April they skyrocket. So all the cases in the DF [Mexico City] areas, where most samples came from, it really transmits very efficiently. Flu is a seasonal disease that peaks in winter. Maybe this will end in the United States with the end of the flu season.
也不要太焦虑了，万一得了也不是不治之症
现在就是不知道治疗结果怎么样。估计诊断其间要关紧闭。好象我看到了说isolation了以后怎么心理调试的东西，晕，听起来好恐怖。
万一的事情多了，每样都担心日子都不要过了。自己该做的做了，做不了的也没办法。所谓尽人事，听天命
这个跟非典一样么？我屋老美说不一样，h1n1只是flu。。。。
俺觉得致死率不如非典，但是传播性很强啊。。。
这个跟非典一样么？我屋老美说不一样，h1n1只是flu。。。。
非典不是Flu。。。
非典不是Flu。。。
非典是肺炎呀。。。
听广播听到的，结果在网上输入SWINE FLU MD，发现果然MD有案例了，只不过还没有确诊。已经关了一些学校。
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他们觉得只是flu，而且能治好，没关系。
很多是mild的症状，治好了也没说有什么后遗症。。。
中国暂停接受墨西哥飞上海航班
2009-05-02 04:52:48 来源: 新华网 跟贴 0 条 手机看新闻
核心提示：中国政府决定，自5月2日起暂停接受墨西哥航空公司飞中国上海的航班。何时恢复要视疫情的控制情况而定。对原定乘坐5月3日墨西哥城飞上海航班的中国旅客，中国政府考虑派包机接回。
新华网北京5月2日电 由于目前甲型H1N1流感疫情不断蔓延，在墨西哥来华航班上已发现该流感的确诊病例，中国政府决定，自即日起暂停接受墨西哥航空公司飞中国上海的航班。中方已就此向墨西哥政府和有关航空公司作了通报。何时恢复要视疫情的控制情况而定。对原定乘坐5月3日墨西哥城飞上海航班的中国旅客，中国政府考虑派包机接回。 (本文来源：新华网 )
好感动~~~~~~~~~~
1。去吃buffet了。看到有人用手弄弄感冒了的鼻子再去拿勺子取菜，才意识到那个勺子这么多人用，很不干净，一下子没了胃口。
2。去coscto了。又是个人满为患的地方，不过停车场远不如以前周末那么拥挤。
连mall都不去逛了的人竟然想都没想地去了这样两个地方。
家附近有中学昨天因为有1个学生很有可能是SF就关门了。昨晚上还收到自己学校的email说有2个学生很有可能是SF，被隔离到了学生宿舍了。这3例Google Map上都没有提到。
这样的时期还是能不到人多的地方就尽量不要到了。
今天做的2件蠢事：
1。去吃buffet了。看到有人用手弄弄感冒了的鼻子再去拿勺子取菜，才意识到那个勺子这么多人用，很不干净，一下子没了胃口。
2。去coscto了。又是个人满为患的地方，不过停车场远不如以前周末那么拥挤。
连mall都不去逛了的人竟然想都没想地去了这样两个地方。
家附近有中学昨天因为有1个学生很有可能是SF就关门了。昨晚上还收到自己学校的email说有2个学生很有可能是SF，被隔离到了学生宿舍了。这3例Google Map上都没有提到。
这样的时期还是能不到人多的地方就尽量不要到了。
re，尽量忍忍了。跟朋友约好了去SF烫头发，在考虑是不是也该不去了，唉。
今天做的2件蠢事：
1。去吃buffet了。看到有人用手弄弄感冒了的鼻子再去拿勺子取菜，才意识到那个勺子这么多人用，很不干净，一下子没了胃口。
2。去coscto了。又是个人满为患的地方，不过停车场远不如以前周末那么拥挤。
连mall都不去逛了的人竟然想都没想地去了这样两个地方。
家附近有中学昨天因为有1个学生很有可能是SF就关门了。昨晚上还收到自己学校的email说有2个学生很有可能是SF，被隔离到了学生宿舍了。这3例Google Map上都没有提到。
这样的时期还是能不到人多的地方就尽量不要到了。
ROCKVILLE HIGHSCHOOL啊？
我还以为MM住VA 呢
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加拿大阿尔伯塔的猪也被传染上了，是一名猪场工人去墨西哥回来后传染的，据说是世界首例被感染的猪。猪好伤心啊。以前叫猪流感真是冤枉人家啊。
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有意思~
难道这个不是猪得了感冒传染给人的吗？要么就是到了人身上病毒变异了，总之起源应该是猪吧，不然怎么会叫猪流感，迷惑~
加拿大阿尔伯塔的猪也被传染上了，是一名猪场工人去墨西哥回来后传染的，据说是世界首例被感染的猪。猪好伤心啊。以前叫猪流感真是冤枉人家啊。
[此贴子已经被作者于2009-5-2 18:49:28编辑过]
啊，这下真不能吃猪肉了啊。。。
今天做的2件蠢事：
1。去吃buffet了。看到有人用手弄弄感冒了的鼻子再去拿勺子取菜，才意识到那个勺子这么多人用，很不干净，一下子没了胃口。
2。去coscto了。又是个人满为患的地方，不过停车场远不如以前周末那么拥挤。
连mall都不去逛了的人竟然想都没想地去了这样两个地方。
家附近有中学昨天因为有1个学生很有可能是SF就关门了。昨晚上还收到自己学校的email说有2个学生很有可能是SF，被隔离到了学生宿舍了。这3例Google Map上都没有提到。
这样的时期还是能不到人多的地方就尽量不要到了。
还是表吃buffet了
有意思~
难道这个不是猪得了感冒传染给人的吗？要么就是到了人身上病毒变异了，总之起源应该是猪吧，不然怎么会叫猪流感，迷惑~
co迷惑
有意思~
难道这个不是猪得了感冒传染给人的吗？要么就是到了人身上病毒变异了，总之起源应该是猪吧，不然怎么会叫猪流感，迷惑~
也迷惑了，好像最早就是猪传给人的。是不是到人身上后变异叫H1N1了，然后又传给猪，成了首例了。没有跟新闻，不知道这边是怎么报的，在国内网站上看的。
转个新闻
阿省惊现猪感染甲型流感
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正值本国感染甲型流感患者的数量与日俱增、医疗人员纷纷为此担忧之时，卫生检测部门那里又传来了更令人震惊的消息。据食品检验局官员埃文斯证实，阿省一个
猪场部分生猪也检测出感染了甲型流感病毒，这不仅意味着本国疫情正在扩大，而且也会对本来便不景气的畜类加工业产生很大的负面影响。www.edmontonchina.ca U/ D" o- S* g6 r
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相关部门在对染病生猪进行基因检测时发现，这些猪身上的病毒与在墨西哥、美国以及其他国家发现的当前流行的病毒一致。另据报道，这些猪身上的病毒极有可能
是被一个最近从墨西哥回来后被确诊为甲型流感患者的猪场工人传染上的。这名工人4月12日从墨西哥返回，4月14日开始上班，而从4月24日开始猪场里的
2200只猪有220只开始出现流感症状。
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不过，该名工人的病情并不严重，经过隔离后也已康复；同时，那220头染病生猪目前也已被隔离，正在接受治疗中。 ' T* I, V! s2 d$ U
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阿省猪肉产品公会（Alberta Pork）执行会长霍奇曼（Paul Hodgman）则表示，生猪感染甲流病毒会给国内的猪肉生产商带来灾难性的影响。 ton2 K' V N' l2 V6 K+ g
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看香港，国内的架势，跟美国比起来真是
大家觉得坐飞机会传染吗？好像美国的机场也不查体温的说。。。
飞机上如果有一个携带的，就麻烦了
飞机上如果有一个携带的，就麻烦了
对呀。怕的就是这个，想让我老公过来看我，但是又害怕坐飞机被传染。。。犹豫呀。。。
老美非常不怕死。。。。。
同感
我在这边认识的中国人，没经历过sars的人也觉得没啥。。。
这点，日本人就比较自觉的，如果有谁得了感冒，上街或者到公共场所，都是自觉戴口罩出门的
如果第一个病例，一开始就比较自觉戴口罩，应该传染性不会这么快吧？
[此贴子已经被作者于2009-5-3 0:55:30编辑过]
也迷惑了，好像最早就是猪传给人的。是不是到人身上后变异叫H1N1了，然后又传给猪，成了首例了。没有跟新闻，不知道这边是怎么报的，在国内网站上看的。
[此贴子已经被作者于2009-5-2 20:26:06编辑过]
非典不就是这样变异出来的吗
55555555555，，未来四周，，，俺6月初回国。。。不会到时候因为太严重不让回了吧
我是正好那时候回美国，我的天啊！简直是入虎口阿！
re，尽量忍忍了。跟朋友约好了去SF烫头发，在考虑是不是也该不去了，唉。
问问你们约的是什么地方啊? 我也想去sf作头发,还没找到去哪:(
谢谢:)
问问你们约的是什么地方啊? 我也想去sf作头发,还没找到去哪:(
谢谢:)
本来去一个中国店做离子烫的，后来因为我朋友想烫大卷，所以想去日本店试试，是日本城的japan center beauty clinic，也是以前在版上问很多热心的mm推荐的。
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一点都没有感觉到有种病毒在蔓延。
不过俺们州一例都没有，北卡。希望也不要有！
我觉得老美不怕的原因是因为没经历过sars。。。
我在这边认识的中国人，没经历过sars的人也觉得没啥。。。
u r right. 我们公司有同事也是sars的时候在美国，也没有觉得特别恐慌
鄙视这些不怕死的人，鄙视重灾区不戴口罩的人
这点，日本人就比较自觉的，如果有谁得了感冒，上街或者到公共场所，都是自觉戴口罩出门的
如果第一个病例，一开始就比较自觉戴口罩，应该传染性不会这么快吧？
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以下是引用crabcat在2009-5-1 22:18:00的发言：
那个。。。。穆斯林本来就恨猪。。。。这个只是借机报复而已。。。。 以下是引用onmynet在2009-5-2 13:46:00的发言：
hahahahahahah
"The authorities took advantage of the situation to resolve the
question of disorderly pig rearing in Egypt," he said.
No cases of swine flu have been detected in Egypt. Egypt's
agriculture ministry says there are 250 000 pigs in the country,
belonging to and eaten by members of the Coptic Christian minority.
The pigs live in Cairo slums inhabited mostly by Christian rubbish
collectors.
以下是引用六度在2009-5-2 16:19:00的发言：
这个跟非典一样么？我屋老美说不一样，h1n1只是flu。。。。
非典不是Flu。。。
以下是引用宁芙在2009-5-2 19:14:00的发言：
有意思~
难道这个不是猪得了感冒传染给人的吗？要么就是到了人身上病毒变异了，总之起源应该是猪吧，不然怎么会叫猪流感，迷惑~ 以下是引用花花猪在2009-5-2 20:15:00的发言：
co迷惑
[Note: It is now apparent that the 2009 influenza A (H1N1) virus
currently circulating in humans, though genetically linked to swine
influenza viruses, has not been found in swine and that swine do not
appear to be involved in the ongoing epidemic. For that reason, and
in keeping with usage by WHO and other agencies, ProMED will drop the
term "swine flu" from our coverage. We expect the term will continue
to be used by the media and in common usage for some time. - Mod.LM]
US drops "swine flu" name
---------------------------
The deadly disease formerly known as "swine flu" is now called the
"2009 H1N1 flu," US officials said Wednesday [29 Apr 2009], as they
battled against a worldwide clampdown on US pork exports. Bidding to
distance the hybrid influenza from pigs, which is responsible for
only one part of the strain, US officials again insisted that people
could not catch H1N1 from eating pork.
The new designation was in the script at briefings by Health and
Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sibelius, Centers for Disease
Control and Prevention acting chief Richard Besser and other US
officials. "We're calling it the 2009 H1N1 flu. That's now the name
for it,'' Besser said.
Pig farmers in the United States, Canada and Mexico -- the disease's
epicenter -- are reeling from bans on their exports of live swine and
pork meat imposed by several nations including Russia and China.
Despite the name swine flu, no pigs in the United States are reported
to be suffering from the disease, which also has components from
influenza strains afflicting people and birds in 3 continents. [More
recent sequence analyses suggest that the 2009 H1N1 influenza virus
is comprised of components derived from 3 different strains of swine
A (H1N1) influenza virus, See ProMED-mail post: Influenza A (H1N1)
"swine flu": worldwide (06). - Mod.CP]
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Virologist Ruben Donis, chief of the molecular virology and vaccines
branch at the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention [CDC],
spoke with Science Insider at length last night [28 Apr 2009] about
the swine flu virus causing the current outbreak. CDC's early
analyses raise several provocative possibilities. The stage appears
to have been set for this human outbreak by an outbreak over the past
decade of flu viruses in swine that combine strains from several
species. The 1st infected human may not even have been in North
America, let alone Mexico. Patient samples from Mexico taken over the
past several months reveal that this swine flu clearly exploded in
late March [2009], suggesting that it was not rapidly spreading in
that country, undetected, for very long.
Donis discussed the genetics of the virus -- the clues in this
mystery -- in detail. These include several of its 8 genes, which
code for surface proteins hemagglutinin (H) and neuraminidase (N),
the matrix that surrounds the nucleus, the nucleoprotein itself, and
3 polymerase enzymes called PA, PB1, and PB2.
We know it's quite similar to viruses that were circulating in the
United States and are still circulating in the United States and that
are self-limiting, and they usually only are found in Midwestern
states where there is swine farming. There's only one well-documented
case where the infection spread from one human to another. What we
know is that it is not common that there is sustained transmission in
people. Hemagglutinin, neuraminidase, and matrix, the 3 genes that
have the most public health interest, were sequenced, and then the
whole genome was completed. There similarities of about 94 percent in
the hemagglutinin [H] to the nearest strain we know. It's almost
equidistant to swine viruses from the United States and Eurasia. And
it's a lonely branch there. It doesn't have any close relatives.
The neuraminidase gene has close relatives in Asia. It's also swine.
The matrix gene same as neuraminidase.
For the avian and human sequences we have to step back 10 years to
1998, actually. Chris Olsen is one of the first that saw it, and we
saw the same in a virus from Nebraska and Richard Webby and Robert
Webster in Memphis saw it, too. There were unprecedented outbreaks of
influenza in the swine population. It was an H3 virus. The disease
was not very severe in healthy pigs. Everyone was very curious about
these H3 viruses. Since 1918, normally it's only H1N1 in swine. Then
all of a sudden there's H3N2 in swine in the Midwestern US. When
people analyzed what was inside those viruses, they realized there
were 3 different things. The PB1 gene, that was human. H3 and N2 also
were human. The PA and PB2, the 2 polymerase genes, were of avian
flu. The rest were typical North American swine viruses. Those
strains were the so-called triple reassortants.
The reality is good molecular surveillance in the pigs started in the
1970s. So if there were strains that were not very dominant between
the 1930s and the '70s, we wouldn't have detected them. This triple
reassortant was very successful and took over and dominated the
picture-to the point where the classical H1N1 was almost extinct. H3
was a different subtype, so there was no immunity in the pigs. It was
probably that they had new polymerase genes, too. The neuraminidase
and the matrix are the newest to be seen in North America. They were
not part of the team -- I talk about flu virus as teams of genes.
There are 8 players. They have these 2 new players from Asia.
One little detail we haven't discussed is [that] these Midwestern
viruses were exported to Asia. Korea and many countries import from
the US. Swine flu is economically not such a big deal that many
countries don't check for it. There are some parts of the puzzle I
don't have the answer to [such as the European lineage
contributions]. The genetic lineages of Asia and Europe mix quite a
bit.
[The question of the appearance of this virus in Mexico is
unresolved], but the mixing probably did not occur in Mexico. The
amazing thing is the hemagglutinins we are seeing in this strain are
a lonely branch that has been evolving somewhere and we didn't know
about it.
We have [a] 6 percent or higher percentage difference in
neuraminidases. You have multiple amino acids that differ. And single
amino acid changes can change receptor specificity. When you have so
many changes, you don't know which ones are responsible.
One traditional approach is to take advantage of viral modules that
allow you to assemble different teams, to make reassortants that take
a virus say from North America that doesn't transmit, and you swap
one gene from the virus that does transmit. If the hypothesis is that
hemagglutinin is responsible, you put in the background of the genes
from the old virus. You need an animal model, usually the ferret.
[The current outbreak strains] from Mexico and North America are
very, very similar. Many genes are identical. In the 8 or 9 viruses
we've sequenced, there is nothing different. We've received 300
samples from Mexico, and these cover the span of February, March, and
April [2009]. And you look at flu A, traditionally it's A/H1 or A/H3
or it's B up until the end of March. There are 2 or 3 cases up to
[the] last days of March that are swine. Then in April they
skyrocket. So all the cases in the DF [Mexico City] areas, where most
samples came from, it really transmits very efficiently. Flu is a
seasonal disease that peaks in winter. Maybe this will end in the United States with the end of the flu season.
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妈呀！texas的数字怎么长得那么快？！
德州地广人稀的，成天躲家里不相往来的多得是，没什么大不了的
妈呀！texas的数字怎么长得那么快？！
texas劳模那末多，当然快。
说实话，不是种族歧视哦，我觉得美国迟早被墨西哥这种穷邻居拖垮。
我问过的两个医生都说，典型症状是：剧烈咳嗽，高烧。
是两个一起还是有一个症状就是??
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/03/mexico-swine-flu-backlash
现在墨西哥政府抗议中国政府歧视墨西哥人了，靠，自己放病毒满世界跑，害了人还抗议？
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/03/mexico-swine-flu-backlash
嗯,最好继续抗议吧,以后都别来中国才好~
咋办呢，俺们到底是不是猪流感全家发作了啊？如果真是猪流感，那么这些官方数据肯定有问题，病毒已经暗暗扩散开来了吧，我儿子那Day Care 应该都已经感染得不成样子了？到底咋区分猪流感和普通感冒啊？
现在墨西哥政府抗议中国政府歧视墨西哥人了，靠，自己放病毒满世界跑，害了人还抗议？
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/03/mexico-swine-flu-backlash
唉，很担心那趟乘客和接触的人，害得大陆港台都受影响。
我在乔治亚州，从官方统计看，至今还是没人感染。可我觉得自己这几天的症状和猪流感很相似啊，是我儿子传给我的，然后我又传给我老公，就是打喷嚏，喉咙痛，流鼻涕，我昨天还头疼得要死，除了发烧，其他什么都全了。我儿子肯定是从Day Care感染到的，这几天我们都没有出门，就怕自己是本州被发现的第一例猪流感病人，把病毒扩散出去。
咋办呢，俺们到底是不是猪流感全家发作了啊？如果真是猪流感，那么这些官方数据肯定有问题，病毒已经暗暗扩散开来了吧，我儿子那Day Care 应该都已经感染得不成样子了？到底咋区分猪流感和普通感冒啊？
一般应该没事，不过最好找医生看看，这种时期，万一怎么样可别耽误了。
不好意思太激动了
我在乔治亚州，从官方统计看，至今还是没人感染。可我觉得自己这几天的症状和猪流感很相似啊，是我儿子传给我的，然后我又传给我老公，就是打喷嚏，喉咙痛，流鼻涕，我昨天还头疼得要死，除了发烧，其他什么都全了。我儿子肯定是从Day Care感染到的，这几天我们都没有出门，就怕自己是本州被发现的第一例猪流感病人，把病毒扩散出去。
咋办呢，俺们到底是不是猪流感全家发作了啊？如果真是猪流感，那么这些官方数据肯定有问题，病毒已经暗暗扩散开来了吧，我儿子那Day Care 应该都已经感染得不成样子了？到底咋区分猪流感和普通感冒啊？
赶紧看医生啊
现在墨西哥政府抗议中国政府歧视墨西哥人了，靠，自己放病毒满世界跑，害了人还抗议？
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/03/mexico-swine-flu-backlash
太变态了，什么人啊，美国那边border检查的这么厉害，也没加mexican敢complain一个字，难不成柿子都捡软的捏？
再考虑明天是不是workfromhome算了
你们公司可真爽，随便都能work from home啊
NJ case还好吧
我在乔治亚州，从官方统计看，至今还是没人感染。可我觉得自己这几天的症状和猪流感很相似啊，是我儿子传给我的，然后我又传给我老公，就是打喷嚏，喉咙痛，流鼻涕，我昨天还头疼得要死，除了发烧，其他什么都全了。我儿子肯定是从Day Care感染到的，这几天我们都没有出门，就怕自己是本州被发现的第一例猪流感病人，把病毒扩散出去。
咋办呢，俺们到底是不是猪流感全家发作了啊？如果真是猪流感，那么这些官方数据肯定有问题，病毒已经暗暗扩散开来了吧，我儿子那Day Care 应该都已经感染得不成样子了？到底咋区分猪流感和普通感冒啊？
MM家还是看看医生吧。
我前面提到学校里的那2例昨天就说好了，前天才发现的呢。我是不敢相信这些官方数据。
刚才打电话到nwa去问，说只能退102块的credit，在未来一年travel的时候用掉
唉，咋办呀？纠结啊纠结到底要不要去德州呢？
[此贴子已经被作者于2009-5-3 19:30:45编辑过]
U.S. Human Cases of H1N1 Flu Infection
(As of May 3, 2009 11:00 AM ET)
States
# of
laboratory
confirmed
cases
Deaths
[此贴子已经被作者于2009-5-3 23:13:10编辑过]
我觉得加拿大太TMD的不注意了。个个都跟没事的一样，还说我OVERCONCERN了。周五儿子学校转发Alberta health region的信也说，如果从墨西哥回来只要没症状，也可以直接上课去。 这些人真没常识和公德啊。
这些个鬼佬啊，要是没烈性传染病还好，要是有啊， 我看他们就完了。机场什么都没设啊，恐怖
CANADA的PUBLIC HEALTH真是不咋地。
这个时候，集权国家的优越性就显示出来了。
说白了就是严重点的流感，不看医生可能会死人看了医生一定没事的
就现状看没有必要影响到一般社会秩序
我实在不知道为什么要上升到SARS的高度
说白了就是严重点的流感，不看医生可能会死人看了医生一定没事的
就现状看没有必要影响到一般社会秩序
非典刚开始的时候大部分人也是这么想的。。。。后面怎么发展谁也不知道。。
我实在不知道为什么要上升到SARS的高度
说白了就是严重点的流感，不看医生可能会死人看了医生一定没事的
就现状看没有必要影响到一般社会秩序
其实各国政府，who,全市吃干饭的，没事儿耍全世界人民玩儿的。
非典刚开始的时候大部分人也是这么想的。。。。后面怎么发展谁也不知道。。
这个不是想想就行的，还是要看数据，看病理
非典症状很严重，一直到后期死亡率都居高不下，而且肺炎和普通流感比也不是一个等级的
标 题: 墨驻华使馆：40位公民被中国隔离
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun May 3 11:56:18 2009)
墨西哥驻华大使馆发言人说，目前约有40多名刚抵达中国各城市的墨西哥人分别被中国
酒店隔离，而这些人并无感染猪流感的症状。
这位使馆发言人说，北京一家酒店隔离了9名墨西哥人，上海一家酒店隔离了26人，广
州一家酒店隔离了6人。
他说："一些人刚从墨西哥抵达中国。其他一些人从美国洛杉矶抵达，或来自世界其它
地方。"
他表示，中国机场官员要求这些抵港的墨西哥人前往另一个房间，仅仅因为他们是墨西
哥人。
该发言人称，"他们说，他们想为这些人检查体温，在检查完体温后，尽管一切都正常
，他们还是将这些人隔离起来。"
墨西哥外长埃斯皮诺萨周六劝告该国公民说，由于北美猪流感爆发，中国卫生当局采取
针对墨西哥人的措施，墨西哥公民在近期最好避免前往中国。
她特别关注一些没有感染迹象的墨西哥人，在中国受到隔离。
她说，"外交部建议国民不要去中国，除非这些措施得到改变。"
埃斯皮诺萨还批评4个拉美国家，其中包括阿根廷，秘鲁，厄瓜多尔及古巴，这些国家
因新型流感疫情而禁止墨西哥的航班入境。
世界卫生组织确认墨西哥是新流感疫情中心，担心疫情可能在全球大流行。
中国外交部没有对墨西哥的批评立即作出回应。
是啊，cdc的更新太慢了。我们州都报道有3个confirmed的了，cdc上还没显示
CDC还是很重视的，我老板还有很多同事都去emergency operation center值班了，２４／７不间断的。很多日常工作都往后推了给流感让步。不过CDC没权力，只能给建议，具体怎么做还是要由各个州自己决定，数据也是等下面报上来，估计还要审核啥的, 滞后是肯定的。
CDC还是很重视的，我老板还有很多同事都去emergency operation center值班了，２４／７不间断的。很多日常工作都往后推了给流感让步。不过CDC没权力，只能给建议，具体怎么做还是要由各个州自己决定，数据也是等下面报上来，估计还要审核啥的, 滞后是肯定的。
这种时候，集权的优越性就体现出来了
这个不是想想就行的，还是要看数据，看病理
非典症状很严重，一直到后期死亡率都居高不下，而且肺炎和普通流感比也不是一个等级的
mm是学医的啊？
呼唤医学专业来给大家扫扫盲，定定心！
我实在不知道为什么要上升到SARS的高度
说白了就是严重点的流感，不看医生可能会死人看了医生一定没事的
就现状看没有必要影响到一般社会秩序。。。。。
这个不是想想就行的，还是要看数据，看病理
非典症状很严重，一直到后期死亡率都居高不下，而且肺炎和普通流感比也不是一个等级的
顶着锅盖同意你。
[此贴子已经被作者于2009-5-4 10:18:00编辑过]
目前死于猪流感的是不是都是南美人啊？
发信人: microyu (yu), 信区: Military
标 题: 墨驻华使馆：40位公民被中国隔离
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun May 3 11:56:18 2009)
墨西哥驻华大使馆发言人说，目前约有40多名刚抵达中国各城市的墨西哥人分别被中国
酒店隔离，而这些人并无感染猪流感的症状。
这位使馆发言人说，北京一家酒店隔离了9名墨西哥人，上海一家酒店隔离了26人，广
州一家酒店隔离了6人。
他说："一些人刚从墨西哥抵达中国。其他一些人从美国洛杉矶抵达，或来自世界其它
地方。"
他表示，中国机场官员要求这些抵港的墨西哥人前往另一个房间，仅仅因为他们是墨西
哥人。
该发言人称，"他们说，他们想为这些人检查体温，在检查完体温后，尽管一切都正常
，他们还是将这些人隔离起来。"
墨西哥外长埃斯皮诺萨周六劝告该国公民说，由于北美猪流感爆发，中国卫生当局采取
针对墨西哥人的措施，墨西哥公民在近期最好避免前往中国。
她特别关注一些没有感染迹象的墨西哥人，在中国受到隔离。
她说，"外交部建议国民不要去中国，除非这些措施得到改变。"
埃斯皮诺萨还批评4个拉美国家，其中包括阿根廷，秘鲁，厄瓜多尔及古巴，这些国家
因新型流感疫情而禁止墨西哥的航班入境。
世界卫生组织确认墨西哥是新流感疫情中心，担心疫情可能在全球大流行。
中国外交部没有对墨西哥的批评立即作出回应。
谢天谢地
巴不得他们不来！
mm是学医的啊？
呼唤医学专业来给大家扫扫盲，定定心！
这个flu在美国境内感染的病例都不是很重，没有死亡病例，确实没觉得和其他流感有明显不同。
这个和sars是不能比的，sars会造成肺部纤维化，即使不死也有后遗症。而且不就医的话死亡率极高。
美国境内就算确诊的flu病例，很多也不要求住院，只要自我隔离注意就好了。
这个flu在美国境内感染的病例都不是很重，没有死亡病例，确实没觉得和其他流感有明显不同。
这个和sars是不能比的，sars会造成肺部纤维化，即使不死也有后遗症。而且不就医的话死亡率极高。
美国境内就算确诊的flu病例，很多也不要求住院，只要自我隔离注意就好了。
不是有一个德州的小孩子死了吗？
如果不是很严重，为什么墨西哥死了那么多人？
不是有一个德州的小孩子死了吗？
如果不是很严重，为什么墨西哥死了那么多人？
德州的那个小孩是从墨西哥过来看病的, 美国本土感染SWINE的还没有死的. 另外墨西哥总共死了22个人, 基本上都是因为不够重视等症状十分严重了才去就医, 医治不及时S掉的.
德州的那个小孩是从墨西哥过来看病的, 美国本土感染SWINE的还没有死的. 另外墨西哥总共死了22个人, 基本上都是因为不够重视等症状十分严重了才去就医, 医治不及时S掉的.
一般的流感死亡率也这么高吗？
这个flu在美国境内感染的病例都不是很重，没有死亡病例，确实没觉得和其他流感有明显不同。
这个和sars是不能比的，sars会造成肺部纤维化，即使不死也有后遗症。而且不就医的话死亡率极高。
美国境内就算确诊的flu病例，很多也不要求住院，只要自我隔离注意就好了。
rerere~
WHO之所以紧张，是因为病毒的全球化扩散已经无法控制，并非是指这个病毒致命性太高
sars和猪流感谁更厉害，其实只要看普通医院接待患者就诊以后，医生和护士的感染率就知道了
sars感染了那么多医务人员，最后小汤山的医务工作者都穿的跟太空服一样的隔离服才能保障自身安全
这个猪流感目前好像还没有这样的案例发生
所以看起来只要注意勤洗手，和有意识的搞好卫生习惯，是没那么容易被传染的
老墨那么多案例，我也觉得是和病毒传播初期大家的卫生习惯不好以及不够重视有关
我实在不知道为什么要上升到SARS的高度
说白了就是严重点的流感，不看医生可能会死人看了医生一定没事的
就现状看没有必要影响到一般社会秩序
Agree. Also WHO threat level is referencing the spread of the disease NOT the severity of it.
一般的流感死亡率也这么高吗？
Every year about 36,000 people in the US die from flu.
嗯....美国控制的还是比老墨好
那有，美国老根本不怕