是啊，其实LD的老板事后也说他早知道LD会被拒，因为他自己就是那个XXXX的POSTDOC出来的，当年他之所以能进去是因为他自己的老板就是老板之一，所以那个组每年招的人几乎就是那些老板们自己的PHD学生。可是我不明白的是难道那个牛老板之所以让LD申请只为了 have your entier application on file and will see what can be done？总之我越看这句话越雾水。
Let him deal with it. Looks like he is excellent in his research, so he wounld not have a problem to find a postdoc even if the offer he has expires. Postdoc position is critical to him if he wants to be a faulty afterwards. So let him banlance the risk.
It is normal to be turned down by a fellowship application. I don't think you two need to take it so hard. Maybe that professor just wants to put your lg in file and then they can think of him easily when there is a position openning.
Let him deal with it. Looks like he is excellent in his research, so he wounld not have a problem to find a postdoc even if the offer he has expires. Postdoc position is critical to him if he wants to be a faulty afterwards. So let him banlance the risk.
It is normal to be turned down by a fellowship application. I don't think you two need to take it so hard. Maybe that professor just wants to put your lg in file and then they can think of him easily when there is a position openning.
Guys just think differently from us. I think it is reasonable to email that niu boss about the update and express your desire/interest one more time.
BTW, I don't think you need to care too much about the salary. Because postdoc is just a temporary job and its salary doesn't affect the future real job salary. However, a nice boss is very important. His recommendation will be very very important. Also in the future, your lg will be sort of his colleague, so your lg can't avoid him at all, then reputation is important too.
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Guys just think differently from us. I think it is reasonable to email that niu boss about the update and express your desire/interest one more time.
BTW, I don't think you need to care too much about the salary. Because postdoc is just a temporary job and its salary doesn't affect the future real job salary. However, a nice boss is very important. His recommendation will be very very important. Also in the future, your lg will be sort of his colleague, so your lg can avoid him at all, then reputation is important too.
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帮mm顶吧，俺也没经验
谢谢MM！
被拒了直言说也不要紧吧，那个实验室本来就难申请，牛老板也是觉得你劳工条件很好才推荐的。
5月份能当面谈是好机会，应该还没到前一个offer的deadline吧？
猜的哈
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是不是你老公拿到那个fellowship的话，那个牛老板就不用从自己腰包掏钱雇你老公？
牛老板是不是觉得你老公比较适合XXXX FELLOWSHIP啊?好象牛老板也不把握就能接受你老公的意思,可能是因为房顶不确定的原因。
被拒了直言说也不要紧吧，那个实验室本来就难申请，牛老板也是觉得你劳工条件很好才推荐的。
5月份能当面谈是好机会，应该还没到前一个offer的deadline吧？
猜的哈
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是啊，其实LD的老板事后也说他早知道LD会被拒，因为他自己就是那个XXXX的POSTDOC出来的，当年他之所以能进去是因为他自己的老板就是老板之一，所以那个组每年招的人几乎就是那些老板们自己的PHD学生。可是我不明白的是难道那个牛老板之所以让LD申请只为了 have your entier application on file and
will see what can be done？总之我越看这句话越雾水。
他表达的的确不是很明白，我个人觉得不明白的话就去问个清楚，写的诚恳，恳切一些。自己瞎猜他的意思，凭一句话又怎么猜的清楚呢？感觉牛老板好象还有些犹豫，多沟通一下，让牛老板感到你老公的诚意，多几个信件往来就套出感情了。
想成为牛人就得走牛路，让他做想做的八。。。
不然成不了牛人你也得跟着后悔
是不是你老公拿到那个fellowship的话，那个牛老板就不用从自己腰包掏钱雇你老公？
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前一个OFFER只说SUMMER之前回复，可是我对SUMMER之前一点具体概念都没有，我们这边4月底就放暑假了，那岂不是5月就已经过了DEADLINE？
跟牛老板出来找faculty很容易的
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他表达的的确不是很明白，我个人觉得不明白的话就去问个清楚，写的诚恳，恳切一些。自己瞎猜他的意思，凭一句话又怎么猜的清楚呢？感觉牛老板好象还有些犹豫，多沟通一下，让牛老板感到你老公的诚意，多几个信件往来就套出感情了。
我也是这么想的，并且也跟他说了，可是他总是不积极行动，总说手头事情太多，PAPER太多，我要是看他，我能急死，暑假就要毕业了，他老人家到现在连毕业论文都没写！！！！！！
对！可是他没拿到，就要看那个牛老SUMMER有没有FUNDING，而且他信里也没说有了FUNDING就一定会要我LG啊，我LG自己倒是很自信的说如果牛老板有FUNDING一定会要他，可是我没这么乐观，也不知道他哪来的自信。我让他写信去问，他就说等5月份亲自找大牛面谈，可我怕那时候前一个OFFER黄花菜都凉了
那还是及早问清楚的好。
如果是俺，俺是会告诉他有offer了，看他要不要俺，不要俺，俺就去其他老板那里了
自己考虑哈，那是我个人做法。
只能说，真牛～～
想成为牛人就得走牛路，让他做想做的八。。。
不然成不了牛人你也得跟着后悔
牛不算牛，只能说他就是干研究这行的料吧，我也不想逼他做决定，只是我在旁边看着着真急啊
跟牛老板出来找faculty很容易的
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那还是及早问清楚的好。
如果是俺，俺是会告诉他有offer了，看他要不要俺，不要俺，俺就去其他老板那里了
自己考虑哈，那是我个人做法。
谢谢MM，晚上等他回来，我会再跟他商量，头大ING。。。。。。
钱太少了，而且据说那个"GOD FATHER"出了名的PUSHING，1月LD去面试，面试竟然长达4天
It is normal to be turned down by a fellowship application. I don't think you two need to take it so hard. Maybe that professor just wants to put your lg in file and then they can think of him easily when there is a position openning.
You can try other 牛 boss, 牛 school is not necessary. Anyway, it all depends on how 牛 is your hubby.
他的方向很狭小啊，他又不想换方向，我看别人投简历都是海投，他老人家一共就投了6个，4个是目标，2个是垫底的，后来垫底的学校给了INTERVIEW，他老人家嫌麻烦还给拒了，还说反正也不会去。我简直
至于他自己牛不牛，我一点都不SURE，毕竟我不了解他们专业，不知道牛的指标是什么
他的方向很狭小啊，他又不想换方向，我看别人投简历都是海投，他老人家一共就投了6个，4个是目标，2个是垫底的，后来垫底的学校给了INTERVIEW，他老人家嫌麻烦还给拒了，还说反正也不会去。我简直
至于他自己牛不牛，我一点都不SURE，毕竟我不了解他们专业，不知道牛的指标是什么
老板nice很重要
Let him deal with it. Looks like he is excellent in his research, so he wounld not have a problem to find a postdoc even if the offer he has expires. Postdoc position is critical to him if he wants to be a faulty afterwards. So let him banlance the risk.
It is normal to be turned down by a fellowship application. I don't think you two need to take it so hard. Maybe that professor just wants to put your lg in file and then they can think of him easily when there is a position openning.
谢谢MM，你说的跟我LG说的基本一样
老板nice很重要
这个工作唯一不好的地方是，这个老板是做实验的，我LD是做理论的，这个老板觉得我LD理论做的很好，希望能过来帮他，但是他自己也说他可以很容易就给他做实验的学生推荐到很好的工作，可是不能保证我LD
这个工作唯一不好的地方是，这个老板是做实验的，我LD是做理论的，这个老板觉得我LD理论做的很好，希望能过来帮他，但是他自己也说他可以很容易就给他做实验的学生推荐到很好的工作，可是不能保证我LD
offer多了也是麻烦事啊，我觉得吧，你老公也是个专家了，对自己的发展去向应该是很清楚的，他自己的想法最重要。你勉强或者建议他做出你觉得有利的决定，以后如果他后悔了，你心里也难受不是？
这个工作唯一不好的地方是，这个老板是做实验的，我LD是做理论的，这个老板觉得我LD理论做的很好，希望能过来帮他，但是他自己也说他可以很容易就给他做实验的学生推荐到很好的工作，可是不能保证我LD
6万 for a post doc is really a nice offer.....
offer多了也是麻烦事啊，我觉得吧，你老公也是个专家了，对自己的发展去向应该是很清楚的，他自己的想法最重要。你勉强或者建议他做出你觉得有利的决定，以后如果他后悔了，你心里也难受不是？
是啊，算了，谢谢MM，我也不庸人自扰了，他爱怎么样就怎么样吧
我也不庸人自扰了，他爱怎么样就怎么样吧
我觉的你是快乐的烦恼
谢谢MM，你说的跟我LG说的基本一样
Understand you.
Guys just think differently from us. I think it is reasonable to email that niu boss about the update and express your desire/interest one more time.
BTW, I don't think you need to care too much about the salary. Because postdoc is just a temporary job and its salary doesn't affect the future real job salary. However, a nice boss is very important. His recommendation will be very very important. Also in the future, your lg will be sort of his colleague, so your lg can't avoid him at all, then reputation is important too.
wish your lg find a nice niu boss!
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我觉的你是快乐的烦恼
我真的一点都不快乐，这几天晚上想到就失眠，我怕他去不了想去的，怕他错失OFFER，怕他去了我不想去的，感觉一切都不是我能掌握，甚至他也掌握不了，就心焦。
Understand you.
Guys just think differently from us. I think it is reasonable to email that niu boss about the update and express your desire/interest one more time.
BTW, I don't think you need to care too much about the salary. Because postdoc is just a temporary job and its salary doesn't affect the future real job salary. However, a nice boss is very important. His recommendation will be very very important. Also in the future, your lg will be sort of his colleague, so your lg can avoid him at all, then reputation is important too.
wish your lg find a nice niu boss!
太谢谢MM了，字字珠玑，我会记着你的话的！
我也是这么想的，并且也跟他说了，可是他总是不积极行动，总说手头事情太多，PAPER太多，我要是看他，我能急死，暑假就要毕业了，他老人家到现在连毕业论文都没写！！！！！！
我觉得他应该边写毕业论文，边找postdoc, 很多专业的phd拖的太久对自己以后的工作也不好的。
本来就是个过渡的位置,前景好才真的重要.
破四到不过2-5年,每年多2万其实有多大差别呢
找到好的法考题才是目标
哈副大牛组,一年给1万,都挤破脑袋