回复 1楼 Takeo 的帖子 瑞典蘑菇中毒的一点已不是少，整个欧洲都有使用野生蘑菇的传统 。8个人中毒医疗系统就崩了？ Abstract Background: Poisonings are common and diverse in their origins, clinical presentations, and outcomes. Poisoning accounts for a substantial number of hospital admissions with need for a higher level of care. The hospital mortality is low but never the less around 1,000 people die from poisoning each year in Sweden. Patients suffering from the most severe poisonings are treated in the intensive care unit and may suffer a cardiac arrests prior to admission or during hospitalisation. A significant proportion of patients dies outside of hospital. Robust information regarding these patients is scares. Aim: The overall aim of the thesis was to increase knowledge about patients suffering from severe poisoning in Sweden. The specific aims were to describe national data for characteristics, short and long-term mortality for patients treated in the intensive care unit (ICU) due to poisoning, to compare key characteristics and outcomes between out-of-hospital cardiac arrest caused by poisoning vs. other causes, and to describe the national patient population deceased due to poisoning including toxicology results. Methods and results: Four epidemiological studies are included in the thesis. Study I and II were cohort studies based on three national registers, the Swedish intensive care register, the national patient register, and the cause of death register. Variables were collected for all adult patients treated in a Swedish ICU during 2010-2011, with 8,155 registered ICU admissions. Patients had a median age of 38 years and men and women were equally represented. Almost half of the patients had a previous hospitalisation due to poisoning. Approximately 30% were unconscious on admission to the ICU and 14.6% were mechanically ventilated during their stay. The in-hospital mortality was 1.9% and the subgroup with the highest mortality was older men without a previously known poisoning. The population’s one-year mortality was 4.5% and also here it was higher for older men. The whole population had a nine-fold increased risk of death during the year following ICU admission compared to population based controls. The highest 4 mortality was found in women between 19-39 years, with a 50 times higher mortality compared to controls and the clear majority of deaths after hospital discharge (94%) was caused by suicide and/or accidents. Study III was a cohort study based on the Swedish register for cardiopulmonary resuscitation, the national patient register, and the cause of death register. All adult patients with an out-of-hospital cardiac arrest (OHCA) during 2007-2021 were included. In total, 66,261 OHCA patients were included, of whom 5.2% were found to receive a diagnosis of poisoning. Poisoned OHCA patients had a median age of 43 years (compared to 73 of the whole group) and included more men. The cardiac arrests due to poisoning were less likely to be witnessed and less likely to have a shockable first rhythm. Despite this, they had a somewhat lower mortality than the other cardiac arrests groups (84% vs 88%). Study IV was a cohort study which included all adult patients who died from poisoning between 2000-2021, according to the cause of death register. Variables were also added from the national forensic database. The results showed that 1.3% of annual deaths in Sweden were caused by poisoning (n poisoning deaths=27,057/n deaths=2,018,495). Patients who died due to poisoning had a median age of 53 years and 70% were men. In total, 87% of these deaths underwent some sort of forensic examination. Drugs (synthetic narcotics and opioids) caused 46% of deaths and alcohols caused 33%. Positive toxicologic tests were found in 83% of patients. Temporal trends show an increase in opioids, antidepressants/neuroleptics, and sedative/antiepileptic substances in femoral blood of patients who died around 2014-2017. Conclusion: Poisoning is a common cause of ICU admission, non-medical OHCA, and death in Sweden. Many patients have a previous history of poisoning before ICU admission, and a mix of substances is the most common poisoning. The ICUmortality is low but the long-term mortality is high for these often young patients, and death is in many cases caused by a new poisoning. Patients with OHCA due to poisoning are younger than patients with OHCA of other causes and have better survival. Deaths out of hospital are often due to illicit drug use. file:///D:/3%20download/Thesis_Elin_Lindqvist%20(1).pdf
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又不是收不到钱，为啥不要救？
医院确实是有救死扶伤的作用，但也是个生意。
云南人不吃这种菌。挑着呢。
🛋️ 沙发板凳
小学中学的课程，应该加入一些实用的生活技能课程！
比如生活常识课，投资基础课，家庭劳动技能基础课，法律实践入门基础课等等
不要读一肚子书，生活中却是白痴
加州fresno晚上一场枪战，三人中弹就能瘫痪急症
直接埋了，上面还能再长蘑菇，接着采
倚天屠龙记里也有这个桥段
我上大学的时候和同学去藏区的四姑娘山玩，采到了脸盆一样大的蘑菇，我们住的当地藏族民宿主说是可以食用的，但是保险起见，并没有给我们吃。而是让我们吃了他们自己去山里摘的野生木耳。
是哪个电影?
Get App 有一个电影，大约七十年代年代后出的。里面有一队科学考察人员进山，其中一人被人用毒蘑菇投毒而死。这是哪部电影?
根据您的描述，科学考察队、进山、毒蘑菇投毒这些元素，让我想到一部电影： 🎬 《谋杀案》 (The Andromeda Strain, 1971) 虽然它主要讲述外星病毒，但可能有科学考察和中毒情节。 🎬 《蘑菇危机》 (The Fungus, 1975) 但这部可能更偏向恐怖而非科学考察。 🎬 《毒蘑菇谋杀案》 (某种侦探片) 但可能不涉及科学考察队。 不过，更符合您描述的可能是： 🔍 《蛇谷的诅咒》 (1988，苏联) 讲述一队地质学家在山区考察，其中涉及神秘事件和中毒情节，但毒蘑菇投毒细节我不确定。 🔍 《梦魇》 (1981，美国) 但更偏向恐怖，可能不完全匹配。 建议您尝试以下方法： 回忆更多细节：比如电影的国家、具体年代、其他情节（如是否有神秘生物、侦探破案等）。 搜索关键词：试试“电影 科学考察队 毒蘑菇”、“山区考察 毒杀 电影”等。 影视数据库：在IMDb或豆瓣用关键词筛选，比如“毒蘑菇”、“科学考察”。 如果您能提供更多细节，我可以帮您进一步缩小范围！
毒蘑菇 毒蘑菇（1978） 中国大陆 / 纪录片
不幸的是认错蘑菇住进医院，幸运的是朋友圈和小红书都已发帖完毕。
Kiruna 总共只有 23,000人口，医院规模如同一个大学的医务室吧。
比这大十倍的城市都无法建立一个不赔钱的电影院，这样的地方缺乏人口形成经济规模，几乎干啥 啥就赔钱。
希望这些国人不要逃这个救命的医疗账单。好歹是救命钱，不给太说不过去了。
打赌这些人生活技能比普通人强。
唉，赢两次。
肯定逃， 一口吃的都要免费的
大概率会逃账单，救命是大恩，大恩如仇。
投资就算了，防诈骗还差不多。
我有预感不会给的
他们出得起医药费吗 没准就是看完没钱
组团摘蘑菇的， 怎么着团里得有至少一个人能会认 蘑菇吧。
就是，啥都往嘴里塞
中国人随便吃，印度人随便拉。难兄难弟
还有昙花，桂花，茉莉，南瓜花，丝瓜花，梅花上的雪…, 不吃进肚子里变成S，不是自己的。
云南饭馆吃蘑菇还是比较靠谱的，蘑菇下锅后设timer，时间不到不发筷子，到时间了服务员先盛一勺测试，确定没毒了才給筷子。
需要多长时间 确定服务员 没被毒倒
三吱儿好像不是广东的
现在还活着吗？
瑞典蘑菇中毒的一点已不是少，整个欧洲都有使用野生蘑菇的传统 。8个人中毒医疗系统就崩了？
Abstract Background: Poisonings are common and diverse in their origins, clinical presentations, and outcomes. Poisoning accounts for a substantial number of hospital admissions with need for a higher level of care. The hospital mortality is low but never the less around 1,000 people die from poisoning each year in Sweden. Patients suffering from the most severe poisonings are treated in the intensive care unit and may suffer a cardiac arrests prior to admission or during hospitalisation. A significant proportion of patients dies outside of hospital. Robust information regarding these patients is scares. Aim: The overall aim of the thesis was to increase knowledge about patients suffering from severe poisoning in Sweden. The specific aims were to describe national data for characteristics, short and long-term mortality for patients treated in the intensive care unit (ICU) due to poisoning, to compare key characteristics and outcomes between out-of-hospital cardiac arrest caused by poisoning vs. other causes, and to describe the national patient population deceased due to poisoning including toxicology results. Methods and results: Four epidemiological studies are included in the thesis. Study I and II were cohort studies based on three national registers, the Swedish intensive care register, the national patient register, and the cause of death register. Variables were collected for all adult patients treated in a Swedish ICU during 2010-2011, with 8,155 registered ICU admissions. Patients had a median age of 38 years and men and women were equally represented. Almost half of the patients had a previous hospitalisation due to poisoning. Approximately 30% were unconscious on admission to the ICU and 14.6% were mechanically ventilated during their stay. The in-hospital mortality was 1.9% and the subgroup with the highest mortality was older men without a previously known poisoning. The population’s one-year mortality was 4.5% and also here it was higher for older men. The whole population had a nine-fold increased risk of death during the year following ICU admission compared to population based controls. The highest 4 mortality was found in women between 19-39 years, with a 50 times higher mortality compared to controls and the clear majority of deaths after hospital discharge (94%) was caused by suicide and/or accidents. Study III was a cohort study based on the Swedish register for cardiopulmonary resuscitation, the national patient register, and the cause of death register. All adult patients with an out-of-hospital cardiac arrest (OHCA) during 2007-2021 were included. In total, 66,261 OHCA patients were included, of whom 5.2% were found to receive a diagnosis of poisoning. Poisoned OHCA patients had a median age of 43 years (compared to 73 of the whole group) and included more men. The cardiac arrests due to poisoning were less likely to be witnessed and less likely to have a shockable first rhythm. Despite this, they had a somewhat lower mortality than the other cardiac arrests groups (84% vs 88%). Study IV was a cohort study which included all adult patients who died from poisoning between 2000-2021, according to the cause of death register. Variables were also added from the national forensic database. The results showed that 1.3% of annual deaths in Sweden were caused by poisoning (n poisoning deaths=27,057/n deaths=2,018,495). Patients who died due to poisoning had a median age of 53 years and 70% were men. In total, 87% of these deaths underwent some sort of forensic examination. Drugs (synthetic narcotics and opioids) caused 46% of deaths and alcohols caused 33%. Positive toxicologic tests were found in 83% of patients. Temporal trends show an increase in opioids, antidepressants/neuroleptics, and sedative/antiepileptic substances in femoral blood of patients who died around 2014-2017. Conclusion: Poisoning is a common cause of ICU admission, non-medical OHCA, and death in Sweden. Many patients have a previous history of poisoning before ICU admission, and a mix of substances is the most common poisoning. The ICUmortality is low but the long-term mortality is high for these often young patients, and death is in many cases caused by a new poisoning. Patients with OHCA due to poisoning are younger than patients with OHCA of other causes and have better survival. Deaths out of hospital are often due to illicit drug use. file:///D:/3%20download/Thesis_Elin_Lindqvist%20(1).pdf
这个真没听过，不知道
看得越多就越理解中国文化就是一种ghetto文化，文明体面根本不重要，即使对有钱来说，最重要的就是cheap
为什么诺贝尔晚宴总选择吃蘑菇？ 发布时间：2021-01-19 来源：中国食用菌商务网 人气：194 诺贝尔奖有很多被全世界公认为无与伦比的记录。其中之一就是晚宴。
诺贝尔颁奖晚宴的《神秘菜谱》，尽管每年都在创新中追求不同，但有些食材则是相当稳定的，比如说十年以前，总是离不开的鹿肉，瑞典是一个盛产驯鹿的国家，国王会亲自杀鹿请你品尝。鱼虾海产品是至今为止一直没变的食材之一，只是会在做法上花样翻新，力求不再重复过往年份的菜谱，但时间长了，难免大同小异。 晚宴食材中还有一个似乎一直保留的食材就是菌菇。比如，珍珠鸡配蘑菇、炸松露大菱鲆鱼配冬季色拉、鸡油菌和松露牛尾卤汁等等，都是晚宴中的神秘晚宴中的闪亮的主角。 在欧洲，瑞典人喜欢吃食用菌，跟亚洲的日本人一样，对食用菌有异乎寻常的痴迷。2000年前后，瑞典的研究人员就发现，瑞典产的松茸(Tricholoma nauseosum)和日本松茸(Tricholoma matsutake)有很多相同之处。日本学者和贸易商纷纷前往瑞典北部森林地带研究这种产自欧洲的松茸，并且开始进口到日本市场进行销售。 瑞典还有在全世界食用菌行领域里的一个骄傲——为了给各个国家各个地区各种不同名称的食用菌制定统一的名称，国际上一致采用瑞典学者林奈所创造的“双名法”，作为动植物、微生物包括食用菌的命名方法。即：用双名法定出某一种食用菌的名称，就是某一种食用菌的学名。每一种食用菌的学名，由两个拉丁词组成，第一个是属名，用拉丁文的名词;第二个是种名，用拉丁文的形容词。属名的第一个字母药用大写，种名则一律用小写。完整的学名，末尾还附有命名人姓名的缩写，命名人的姓，一律用正体字。 2007年9月14日，瑞典王储维多利亚公主在出席的“国际真菌会议”上，亲自为来自湖南省林业科学院的中国留瑞学者谭著明颁发了“有益社会的杰出真菌研究”奖，表彰他在红汁乳菇大规模栽培领域所取得的成就。谭著明的研究使珍贵菌根性食用菌(绝大多数味美价高的食用菌均属此类，如美味牛肝菌、块菌、松茸、鸡油菌等等)的规模化栽培成为可能，由此被称为食用菌栽培技术上的突破。拼死吃蘑菇，似乎也是瑞典人最鲜明的生活特点之一。 瑞典的森林覆盖率高达54%，且降水量丰沛，空气湿润，森林里特别适宜蘑菇生长。每年夏天和秋天，瑞典人最喜爱的户外活动之一就是到森林里采蘑菇。由于夏季长期阴天多雨，为各种菌类创造了理想的生长条件，“蘑菇大丰收”便在夏季成为瑞典各大报刊的头版新闻。 常在山上走，采蘑菇也是有危险的。尽管瑞典的媒体每年雨季都向人们不厌其烦地详细介绍如何防止蘑菇中毒，事故总是时有发生，为了一饱口福，在过去50年里，还是有15人因为误食剧毒蘑菇而丢了性命。为了又尝鲜又安全，瑞典人从小就学习如何分辨有毒蘑菇，目前，瑞典全国有200位被瑞典国家蘑菇咨询协会承认的蘑菇识别专家，并有各种蘑菇俱乐部。早在1879年组建的斯德哥尔摩“蘑菇之友”和“瑞典真菌学会”等组织，经常举办采蘑菇讲座和蘑菇菜肴烹调班等活动。以期在痴迷食用菌的同时，能够掌握安全的食菌知识。
food insecurity
治疗技术必然是一流的
😂
问了ChatGPT 和grok,蘑菇中毒必须要生命体征稳定了才能转院，否则半路可能出现衰竭会出问题，这也是为什么八个人搞趴一个医院的原因。
野外采蘑菇来吃的人基本都觉得自己认识蘑菇。最后还是有不少中毒的。
这些网红，特别是大网红，都是有一个规模庞大团队的，自己只负责在镜头前表演。
我上次看新闻吃蘑菇送医院抢救的，是费城的amish人
五年前也是到处都是中国人随便拉的新闻
失手一次就完蛋。
南大碎尸案也是。老太太捡到一包整整齐齐切好的肉，就带回家准备做了吃。 弄着弄着，发现好像不是猪肉。。。 她要万一没意识到，。。。那不是全家都吃了。
是捡回家猪肉本打算大块朵颐，结果发现了几根手指，大惊！
话说广西文革就吃过不少人肉吧，鲁迅年代更不少见。大家还是温室里花朵被保护太好了
羡慕啥？吃出问题的时候你都没看到。你看到的都是幸存者偏差。就算常采蘑菇的不在家附近的蘑菇都不敢随便吃。
因为才吃饱不到40年。30年前各种蛋白质还是不足。现在有兴趣去做这个的都估计是40以上的大叔了。
是的，刚吃饱没多少年
肯定不差那口吃的，就是馋，网上经常有那种帖子，把野生蘑菇的味道描述的无比美味，冒着生命危险也要吃。还有那种禁止进入的野山，某些脑残驴友非得进去，然后遇险要救援的，都不应该浪费公共资源
急症大夫不多啊，每个人一个大夫都做不到，何况其他病人