Donald Trump says "there's no deal until there's a deal" but progress was made in Ukraine talks with Vladimir Putin - watch the latest at the top of the page "We didn't get there," he says in an update to the press after their almost three-hour meeting in Alaska
普京刚发的言!Putin CONFIRMED that the war would''ve NEVER happened if Trump were president!
Vladimir Putin confirms that if Trump were President in 2022, there would be no war:
“When President Trump says that if he was president back then there would be no war… I can confirm that. " pic.twitter.com/KJgC02Pz4O — Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) August 15, 2025
BKS 发表于 2025-08-15 20:57 普京刚发的言!Putin CONFIRMED that the war would''ve NEVER happened if Trump were president!
Vladimir Putin confirms that if Trump were President in 2022, there would be no war:
“When President Trump says that if he was president back then there would be no war… I can confirm that. " pic.twitter.com/KJgC02Pz4O — Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) August 15, 2025
Hilary Clinton’s surprising offer to nominate her 2016 presidential election opponent for the illustrious prize came during an interview with the “Raging Moderates” podcast released Friday. “Honestly, if he could bring about the end to this terrible war, if he could end it without putting Ukraine in a position where it had to concede its territory to the aggressor, could really stand up to Putin — something we haven’t seen, but maybe this is the opportunity — if President Trump were the architect of that, I’d nominate him for a Nobel Peace Prize,” she told podcast host Jessica Tarlov.
当当肉 发表于 2025-08-15 21:29 Hilary Clinton’s surprising offer to nominate her 2016 presidential election opponent for the illustrious prize came during an interview with the “Raging Moderates” podcast released Friday. “Honestly, if he could bring about the end to this terrible war, if he could end it without putting Ukraine in a position where it had to concede its territory to the aggressor, could really stand up to Putin — something we haven’t seen, but maybe this is the opportunity — if President Trump were the architect of that, I’d nominate him for a Nobel Peace Prize,” she told podcast host Jessica Tarlov.
当当肉 发表于 2025-08-15 21:29 Hilary Clinton’s surprising offer to nominate her 2016 presidential election opponent for the illustrious prize came during an interview with the “Raging Moderates” podcast released Friday. “Honestly, if he could bring about the end to this terrible war, if he could end it without putting Ukraine in a position where it had to concede its territory to the aggressor, could really stand up to Putin — something we haven’t seen, but maybe this is the opportunity — if President Trump were the architect of that, I’d nominate him for a Nobel Peace Prize,” she told podcast host Jessica Tarlov.
could really stand up to Putin — something we haven’t seen
为了转移视线,真是费尽心思 TRUMP PRIVATELY DISMISSED EPSTEIN VICTIMS AS ‘DEMOCRATS’ The president and his administration are struggling to bury the scandal around their handling of the convicted sex offender's case By NIKKI MCCANN RAMIREZ, ASAWIN SUEBSAENG AUGUST 14, 2025
落地无声 发表于 2025-08-16 06:28 为了转移视线,真是费尽心思 TRUMP PRIVATELY DISMISSED EPSTEIN VICTIMS AS ‘DEMOCRATS’ The president and his administration are struggling to bury the scandal around their handling of the convicted sex offender's case By NIKKI MCCANN RAMIREZ, ASAWIN SUEBSAENG AUGUST 14, 2025
已经小小的taco一下了,本来说就他和普京俩会面,他要看着普京的眼睛在五分钟内判断出普京的诚意。 现在没有单独会面了,双方各带两个小弟。美方带的是鲁比奥和witcoff,非常令人失望。我觉得他应该带万斯。
最后总结 :双方进行了深入广泛的沟通,取得了重大的胜利。最大的胜利就是双方同意保持沟通和下次还要谈😂
川普感觉特别中意的就是大国外交+元首外交,他眼中的大国可能就是中俄美把,其他的国家他都不是很在乎
然后就90天又90天的增加谈判期限,哈哈,怎么看到了隔壁国家的影子。还有一点很有意思,为什么选在阿拉斯加谈判?是不是想提醒普京,当年我们从你们那边买了阿拉斯加捡了便宜,你们现在从乌克兰抢了的地盘已经占了便宜,见好就收。
90天又90天,这样一年的新闻头条位置都保证了
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就是期望没有乌克兰参与的会议,能有利于乌克兰的协议? 你真这么想吗? 如果真不利于俄罗斯,俄罗斯都可以选择不参加
这个会议的意义就是探讨美国认为美国赢的底线是什么,那么之外的都是俄罗斯的,美国只是阐述,哪些部分是美国的,至于不是美国的,俄国请自便
赌的就是美国的灯塔感和川普的面子。一个明显损害乌克兰的结果不如不要曝光。还有让双方搞明白俄罗斯分别能打多久,在美国不同手段下。在此之下才是美国能赢什么。
站在中立角度上说,既然是乌克兰和俄国打仗,谈停战肯定要双方都出席才算公平。哪有和一方就亲密接触起来?把乌克兰放在哪里?真是弱国无外交。
乌克兰割地没得跑了,可怜
好像乌克兰已经接受停火后割地。但是关键是乌克兰有没可能加入北约。如果不能加入北约,乌克兰早晚会失去全部的国土
现在还有人不相信川普通俄吗?
这个可以谨慎观望,我不认为这次会有什么实质性的协议。川普说开完会后立马和司机开会。暂且认为这是真的,那从正常谈判角度来看作为中间人和双方先分别接触也是正常的。 我个人觉得这次就是做个戏,俄罗斯可能会有一些小进展比如忽悠川普解除一些制裁什么的。但是不会有实质性进展,类似于第一任期的跨过三八线接触三胖。
这结果毫无意外。之前川普还吹还百分之二十五没结果,其实是百分之二百五没结果
怎么可能加入北约,应该会有个乌克兰多久都不能加入北约的条件
唯一的成果是二普都安然度过8/8 红线, 川普这次taco 大费周章
仗接着打
耳麦翻译吧
都戴耳机同声翻译的呀
只要不说永久不允许加入北约,哪怕20年内不允许加入,那也是把战火推迟20年。不知道时间在哪边。
不明白普京为什么自己要来,因为明显不会有结果,只是陪川总作秀。
习对川普这种作秀的会面要求一律不回应不参与不讨论
这感慨你放在100多年前的中国身上你就懂了当年国人的心态了(中国历史上还一直都是大国)。这个世界一直都是弱国无外交二战之后稍微文明了些带上了手套所以忽悠了一批或装傻或真傻的人。以前美帝独大加上美帝自诩文明的灯塔所以只要不触及美帝核心利益(以色列和美洲后院)美帝都还是相对公平的估计公理捍卫者。现在美帝实力下降加上上了川大大不装了。也怪乌克兰人自己被忽悠拐了这分家之后30多年多次被忽悠造成如此结局。先是被忽悠去核,然后被忽悠去俄,然后几年前被忽悠闹腾加入北约就变成现在这样了。一般来说战场上拿不到的谈判桌上也拿不到我们且看结局吧。
断言乌克兰要割地的,还有时间来修正
为了给自己一个台阶下 taco真不惜血本
真会舔👅
川总说的是不费吹灰之力24小时结束俄乌战争
现在弄的跟他费了天大的劲完成了个女娲补天后羿射日精卫填海般的任务的第一步似的……
如果说大家对川总还有哀愁,那也是他开始牛皮吹的太大,哈哈哈哈
大帝心里都乐开花了, 飙起英语了
taco 真象个小哈巴狗, 本版指望他的各位终究是付错了 😂🤣🥲
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这你也信?普京不过是说几句好听的满足一下川普的ego而已。现在川普又是总统了,你把军队退到川普第一任总统时的样子,然后美国解除制裁不就完了?不就相当于没发生过?
同意,如果他能让俄乌不继续送国民去死亡,能让巴勒斯坦建国,是可以拿和平奖,毕竟奥巴马轻轻松松就拿了一个。
说反了,这是给了普京多大的面子,普京一个被美国主流媒体骂得体无完肤的人在美国领地上和川普平起平坐,眉来眼去,什么也没放弃,绝对是普京赢了!
你情我愿的事情吧,谈不上谁玩谁
爱哀愁没人拦着,川普爱吹大牛被看笑话是应该的。只是说你们并没有更好的办法。他拍普京走上层路线我觉得有一定希望,至少比拜登的政策好,除非你觉得本来就应该继续打,给俄罗斯放血,战斗到最后一个乌克兰人。俄罗斯人家经济上不求你,背后有印度和东大支持因为各自的小九九,普京也没内部敌对势力。只要他不怕死人一定要达到战略目标,美国本来就没牌打。
Hilary Clinton’s surprising offer to nominate her 2016 presidential election opponent for the illustrious prize came during an interview with the “Raging Moderates” podcast released Friday. “Honestly, if he could bring about the end to this terrible war, if he could end it without putting Ukraine in a position where it had to concede its territory to the aggressor, could really stand up to Putin — something we haven’t seen, but maybe this is the opportunity — if President Trump were the architect of that, I’d nominate him for a Nobel Peace Prize,” she told podcast host Jessica Tarlov.
要求不可能实现,她讲这些不切实际。 让巴勒斯坦建国的比乌不用割地求和都应该更容易实现。
could really stand up to Putin — something we haven’t seen
友情提示一下这是在阿拉斯加
你弄清楚,是美国的政策从2004年开始就在挑拨俄乌,04-24,收割了俄乌,收割了欧洲,炸了北溪,可不是俄乌自己打成这个样子。
美国在把欧洲东西欧全收割一遍以后,川普上来,另一轮收割。先来国内吹牛,24小时结束战斗忽悠红脖Diss民主党,他只是没告诉红脖民主党挑动完了现在共和党来当“好”人了,光吹自己24小时就能收放自如的结束了。
因为他以为,美国还是以前的美国,要打,小弟打成一团,要收,小弟俯首称臣立刻结束战斗还给他鼓掌吹彩虹屁。
其实呢,事实就是24小时承诺变成了作秀,当然还有唱赞歌的,随意,人总得有个偶像才能活下去
对,时机已经过去了,也许前两年战场事态对乌克兰有利的时候还有可能,也许只需要割掉克里米亚再加点别的条件比如承诺不加入北约。可惜战事顺利的时候不可能这么干,泽连斯基也没有这种魄力和威望。现在俄罗斯死人越多,不割地是越不可能了。希拉里当然是要给个mission impossible
你这一套高论似曾相识,但没啥逻辑,总结一下大概就是说blame川普是众望所归大快人心吧。美国的国际政策常常不具连续性,换个总统完全跟上届对着干不是这几届的常态吗,什么04年开始拱火,炸北溪的,又不是川普任内干的,对讨论他现在的政策有啥意义。所谓的收割全世界,看来是你觉得接着打最好,那确实川普傻逼,你赢了
我这里全是逻辑,你看不懂罢了,要不怎么能被忽悠以为川总能调停成功而不是作秀呢。
你相信就好
我可没说接着打最好,我说的是川普不会调解成功。而且事到如今,他也很明白他调解不会成功。
他只是在作秀
普京只是说了大家本来就知道的事。。。俄乌之战是败登政府挑起的,这是当年众所周知的事情,只有傻子不知道吧!
我也没觉得他一定能调解成功,但我觉得不是完全没可能。比一直以来的搞法成功概率大。不过即使所谓成功调停,乌克兰也不太可能拿到一个好deal,看上去会是压着乌克兰同意的,那时候你又会有话说了。如果乌克兰愿意一直打下去,那请便,但美国没有义务一直无偿支援。当然如果你认为其实是在收割欧洲那另当别论吧
你给说说拜登怎么个挑起法。提醒你一下乌克兰把加入北约写入宪法是2019年,川普在台上呢。
nothing burger
这就是标准川总培养的衷心韭菜啊,开心就好
民主党,黑脸 共和党,白脸
目标一致的,战争欧洲打,打的时候收割打的利益 何时结束美国说,结束的时候收割结束的利益。
现在吗,开始了,不能入他们想象该结束时结束不了了,就这么简单。
川普太高了吧。习大大应该站着和川差不多
除了几句阴谋论和name calling你似乎也不会了,好吧,也祝你开心继续看川普笑话
我说的哪句是阴谋论???
你说说看我给你举出具体实例来,不要随便扣阴谋论的大帽子好吗???
你才是川总阴谋论看多了的
应该没有。弯弯觉得俄乌停战以后, 美国就会帮弯弯对付中国了。毕竟台积电都送给美国了。
见过哪任美国总统什么都没谈成八字没一撇搭个台子就为了拍张照片上第二天世界头条???
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这算什么,川川为了求诺贝尔奖,把关税纳入谈条件来着,给了就关税优惠,没给你自己掂量去吧
自说自话了吧,北约让他代替了吗?乌克兰授权他代替了吗
嗯嗯,为了你回国路线短点儿,人家丢个国家都不是事儿
友情提醒一下川觉得阿拉斯加是在俄罗斯
带万斯?想重演当时见乌克兰总统的高光时刻啊?
我去,垃圾就别去自取其辱了
其实被川普忽悠认为是拜登挑起而罔顾历史的才是傻子
不用丢个国家啊。美欧加大力度无条件援乌反推俄罗斯,打得俄罗斯跪地求结束战争,我们回国路线一样短点。问题是美欧为了自己的利益畏畏缩缩首鼠两端顾此失彼可谓是哄堂大孝了🤣
这个结果只能是核战吧,大帝不是白叫的
谈成啥了?不是说普京饭也没吃,走了.