Generally, you should sign a final written warning letter to acknowledge receipt, but not necessarily to agree with its contents. Signing acknowledges that you received the document, not that you agree with the reasons for the warning or its implications. If you disagree with the warning, you can add a statement like "signed to acknowledge receipt, but disagree with the contents" or "signed under protest".
金银岛 发表于 2025-07-15 20:53 Generally, you should sign a final written warning letter to acknowledge receipt, but not necessarily to agree with its contents. Signing acknowledges that you received the document, not that you agree with the reasons for the warning or its implications. If you disagree with the warning, you can add a statement like "signed to acknowledge receipt, but disagree with the contents" or "signed under protest".
坚决不承认自己yell了。是线上的会吗？如果是，可以说因为网路connectivity 问题，不得已提高了声量。被他们misunderstood 了。如果是in person meeting, 也没关系, 坚称没有yell. 马上找HR complain, 声泪俱下说你一直被racially discriminated and targeted by your manager. This was another example of differentiated treatment and a way to eliminate you. You want their behaviors and unfair treatment documented. 还可以说你reserve the right to seek legal actions to protect your own rights. 马上找律师咨询一下。一般律师行都有那种30分钟的free consultation. 多打几家，问一下不同律师的意见。 记得控制自己的情绪，多生气都要平静。列个清单，把你想说的点都写下来。
我觉得lz八成可以领失业金，正常file就是了，如果公司真的要阻挠你，到时候再argue，不是完全没机会，一般公司也犯不着非要阻挠，花的又不是公司的钱。GPT老师给出的答案： Being fired for yelling at work does not automatically disqualify someone from collecting unemployment benefits, but it depends on the context and the state’s specific rules. Here’s how it usually breaks down: 🔍 Key factors unemployment offices consider: Was the yelling part of a pattern of behavior? A single outburst (especially if provoked or under stress) is often not considered "misconduct." Repeated outbursts after warnings could be seen as willful misconduct.Did it violate a clear workplace policy? If the employee had been previously warned or signed a code of conduct that prohibits aggressive behavior, that’s more serious. Was anyone threatened or harmed? If the yelling involved threats, harassment, or intimidation, it could be categorized as gross misconduct, and benefits may be denied. What led to the outburst? If the yelling was in response to mistreatment, unfair working conditions, or high stress without prior issues, the agency may still approve benefits. 🧠 Examples: You yelled during a tense meeting but apologized, and it wasn’t part of a pattern: likely still eligible. You screamed at a coworker and had a history of similar incidents: more likely to be denied. You raised your voice once due to workplace bullying or discrimination: you might still qualify and can explain your case.
初 发表于 2025-07-15 21:32 我觉得lz八成可以领失业金，正常file就是了，如果公司真的要阻挠你，到时候再argue，不是完全没机会，一般公司也犯不着非要阻挠，花的又不是公司的钱。GPT老师给出的答案： Being fired for yelling at work does not automatically disqualify someone from collecting unemployment benefits, but it depends on the context and the state’s specific rules. Here’s how it usually breaks down: 🔍 Key factors unemployment offices consider: Was the yelling part of a pattern of behavior? A single outburst (especially if provoked or under stress) is often not considered "misconduct." Repeated outbursts after warnings could be seen as willful misconduct.Did it violate a clear workplace policy? If the employee had been previously warned or signed a code of conduct that prohibits aggressive behavior, that’s more serious. Was anyone threatened or harmed? If the yelling involved threats, harassment, or intimidation, it could be categorized as gross misconduct, and benefits may be denied. What led to the outburst? If the yelling was in response to mistreatment, unfair working conditions, or high stress without prior issues, the agency may still approve benefits. 🧠 Examples: You yelled during a tense meeting but apologized, and it wasn’t part of a pattern: likely still eligible. You screamed at a coworker and had a history of similar incidents: more likely to be denied. You raised your voice once due to workplace bullying or discrimination: you might still qualify and can explain your case.
她以前和我说过一次因为看我工作经历比较丰富，才给我更多的活。反正她出这封信的意思就是打算叫我走人了是吧？我明天和她还有个会，我就说我没yell,我just get frustrated,我以后注意尽量不和别人比较工作量，我也不签字，我该干什么还会干什么，你们可以随时叫我走人，I am get ready for it from now on.
附议 Application Process: You''ll need to apply for unemployment benefits and truthfully answer questions about your separation from work. Employer''s Response: Your former employer will also be contacted and will have the opportunity to provide their perspective on the termination. Adjudication: The unemployment office will review the information from both you and your employer to determine your eligibility.
woaidiqiucun 发表于 2025-07-15 21:45 她以前和我说过一次因为看我工作经历比较丰富，才给我更多的活。反正她出这封信的意思就是打算叫我走人了是吧？我明天和她还有个会，我就说我没yell,我just get frustrated,我以后注意尽量不和别人比较工作量，我也不签字，我该干什么还会干什么，你们可以随时叫我走人，I am get ready for it from now on.
支持你不承认自己yell，愿意今后注意小声说话。再准备下以往每次你抱怨工作分配不合理的细节来支持你的话。字还是得签，代表你是愿意配合的。在签字下面写上一句 signed to acknowledge receipt, but disagree with the contents 就行了。剩下的狠话就不用说了。
woaidiqiucun 发表于 2025-07-15 21:45 她以前和我说过一次因为看我工作经历比较丰富，才给我更多的活。反正她出这封信的意思就是打算叫我走人了是吧？我明天和她还有个会，我就说我没yell,我just get frustrated,我以后注意尽量不和别人比较工作量，我也不签字，我该干什么还会干什么，你们可以随时叫我走人，I am get ready for it from now on.
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想真美，无非是证据不足不能直接fire，现在开始给你全程录下来，再有证据就fire
这说明钱给到位了，被吼了可以忍
🛋️ 沙发板凳
不签。但他们还是会开除你。找下家吧。职场上再坏都不能表面yell
你这如果terminate 就是misconduct, 不能领失业金。找下家吧，出了这种事，没听说过还能留下的
就一口咬定没yell，只是frustrated。没事去看看心理医生什么的，准备一下斗争。
Reference 估计没事，但是失业金应该不行。你这yell完，告公司还有点难度
不签，今天就开std，明天找医生，两周内把材料补全给交上去。 公司有本事的话今天你拿的就是termination letter了，但是告诉你了，要么闭嘴要么滚
找下家吧。可以用楼上的std拖延时间，但你还是尽快找吧
自己不quit。 你就用std恶心她好了，std看公司看州，也是有钱领。真被恶心到看不下去了，把你雷了还得给你俩月工资外加severance，然后你还可以领失业金。你要是有钱领就行，这么一趟玩完能歇一年
你就这么想，你yell别人，那是触犯公司policy，不能工作。 你是故意的吗？ 不是，是你控制不住情绪。 那这就是病，得治，治好或者找到药物控制之前，你就是unable to work。
Yes, 不签。Yes, 他们还是会开除你.
我就吃过这方面的亏。从此，我就学精了。绝对不当面顶撞他们。而是暗地里找工作，到时候撂挑子。关键时候撂挑子最好，急死他们。
纠正你一下。当然可以领失业金。
不签不影响我领失业金和reference吧？ －－－不影响！ HR只能说我工作的时间段和职位？ －－－是的。别担心。 还算个正经几百人的公司。我也不打算告公司，说出来都是鸡毛蒜皮的事情，公司对员工恶略在业界也算有名的。 －－－如果你有精力，我估计你也不想了，你当然可以告。不要告公司，告你的manage。 走之前留啥证据好呢？把我及时回email的信手机拍个照片？不敢用个人邮箱收这些东西。 －－－－都可以。用个人邮箱收这些没有问题。
lz你可以做这些 但楼里有经验的都提到了 behavior的问题已经发生了 （即使老板分配任务不公平 yell也不是解决办法）所以很难改变结局。这个跟PIP不一样 performance可以有量化的提高 但是behavior很难短期改正 换环境是最好的解决方案（转组或换工作）
可以这样的。
如果LZ愿意，有公司职场福利律师的话，可以和你的manager搞一下。让她也不舒服。
你为啥还没抓住重点？任务量大算个事儿？你都yell了。鸡毛蒜皮在yell面前啥也没用。你赶紧std，不然就等着被开吧
好主意！不失礼，还不懦弱。
你说反了。失业金没问题。失业金是政府发的，政府不care原因，只管结果：失业没有？因为说不清谁对谁错。
Fire for misconduct 不行，至少我呆过的州都不行
对，自己quit也不能领失业金。 公司 fire你，无论谁的错，你都可以领失业金。
坚决不承认自己yell了。是线上的会吗？如果是，可以说因为网路connectivity 问题，不得已提高了声量。被他们misunderstood 了。如果是in person meeting, 也没关系, 坚称没有yell. 马上找HR complain, 声泪俱下说你一直被racially discriminated and targeted by your manager. This was another example of differentiated treatment and a way to eliminate you. You want their behaviors and unfair treatment documented. 还可以说你reserve the right to seek legal actions to protect your own rights. 马上找律师咨询一下。一般律师行都有那种30分钟的free consultation. 多打几家，问一下不同律师的意见。 记得控制自己的情绪，多生气都要平静。列个清单，把你想说的点都写下来。
你填个表就知道了，当然你可以在选项时候lie。失业就可以领那是社会主义
如果manager正看他不爽，那就是他的机会。如果你是工会成员，不易被赶走，大家都躲你。
misconduct，尤其是intentionally，没失业金
楼主还不如当时啥也不说，摆烂，等着被performance 开或者裁员。真的是职场忍一时风平浪静
自己搜公司doc和州政府网站去。 你要是这都搞不定，还是老实点吧，估计医生你也搞不定
那是啊。我不承认，不签字，你能咋的？ 你开除我，是你的事，我拿失业金。 死不承认。的确么，我就这习惯，没有恶意。你咋的吧？ 一句话，不承认。 该lie 时，就得lie, lie 就 lie, 咋的吧？
Being fired for yelling at work does not automatically disqualify someone from collecting unemployment benefits, but it depends on the context and the state’s specific rules. Here’s how it usually breaks down: 🔍 Key factors unemployment offices consider: Was the yelling part of a pattern of behavior? A single outburst (especially if provoked or under stress) is often not considered "misconduct." Repeated outbursts after warnings could be seen as willful misconduct. Did it violate a clear workplace policy? If the employee had been previously warned or signed a code of conduct that prohibits aggressive behavior, that’s more serious. Was anyone threatened or harmed? If the yelling involved threats, harassment, or intimidation, it could be categorized as gross misconduct, and benefits may be denied. What led to the outburst? If the yelling was in response to mistreatment, unfair working conditions, or high stress without prior issues, the agency may still approve benefits. 🧠 Examples: You yelled during a tense meeting but apologized, and it wasn’t part of a pattern: likely still eligible. You screamed at a coworker and had a history of similar incidents: more likely to be denied. You raised your voice once due to workplace bullying or discrimination: you might still qualify and can explain your case.
我觉得楼主搞不定std拖延这招儿，还是疯狂找工作吧，现在招工周期差不多6个月
说的好。楼主自己要做点功课啊。 不能少爷小姐脾气啊。你发火时咋不考虑这些呢？ 我们帮你，是看在你是华人的面子上。
一般公司也犯不着非要阻挠，花的又不是公司的钱 ----exactly.
惊呆，你不去也会被开除。你旅游也可以fire 你。你以后还是老老实实吧，一般敢吼老板同事的都是有两把刷子的刺头
姐姐，你ssn填进去的时候，employer和quarterly wage就pop出来咯。submit一按，州政府就去找employer问你为什么被terminate了。 政府给你钱可不是白给的，明年是要通过加税率找你老东家要失业税的。说白了只是个第三方，上游没同意是不会给下游放水哈。你lie不了😂
告到EEOC
附议
Application Process: You''ll need to apply for unemployment benefits and truthfully answer questions about your separation from work.
Employer''s Response: Your former employer will also be contacted and will have the opportunity to provide their perspective on the termination.
Adjudication: The unemployment office will review the information from both you and your employer to determine your eligibility.
我当年直接把email打印备份了的，反正上了法庭作为证据也没说我不合法，只要不涉及公司机密信息，大概率没事
支持你不承认自己yell，愿意今后注意小声说话。再准备下以往每次你抱怨工作分配不合理的细节来支持你的话。字还是得签，代表你是愿意配合的。在签字下面写上一句 signed to acknowledge receipt, but disagree with the contents 就行了。剩下的狠话就不用说了。
一般正规公司， 先warning letter， 2 次，然后 final warning letter。 不能没有第一二次警告给你纠正的机会就直接final letter。 不合程序。 可以和你的manager ， hr 首先不承认yell， 然后 不能没有书面或口头警告直接final。不给你任何机会。
如果方便的话，可以拍照留证据，包括以往邮件里老板和同事表扬你的话。等你找律师打官司的话，也许对律师有用。
连frustrated 都不用说。就说领导给的information confuse的。
你下次录下来
但是teams上录像对方也知道的，我可以自己私录么？
有的公司是按绩效打分，有的是按老板一张嘴
找家庭医生说头疼, 完全失眠+焦虑
不是说了你insubordination么？你这种确实不好管理，你老板可能不太nice，但你这种比较工作量还总是argue她也很头疼，这下你吼她就全部汇报了。不用纠结这些，找下家吧，你这里留不住了，明显人家不想留你。楼主吸取经验吧，以后别比较，别情绪失控，磨洋工找下家就可以了。我带过你这种，不过是gen z，总是抗议unfair自己工作量比别人多，让干啥总是各种push back，过几次我都汇报到上头了，因为工作没法开展，我没法管理分配任务，每次都要argue
逻辑关系当然有，就是分配的任务你按时完成，不要push back。你纠结的都是无关紧要的细节，重点拖延时间找下家。没见过吼老板还平时push back 多的人能留下
你单位如果绝大多数都是本地人，招你亚裔外国人，本质就是指望你多干活的，这个哪里都一样。你和白人如果一样表现那你多半会被开
工作分配不公平。工资也不多给。也不能反抗。 楼里你们都是这样的逆来顺受了？
你可以慢慢做，可以随便做，可以说做不完，但你非要说张三李四比我少，指责manager 不公平，顺带吼老板，你是gen z么？会被开的，除非你技术无人可取代，参加meta Google 挖走的ai 大牛。
楼主，现在性质是你yell和In subordination，其他都是小事。你还纠结没意义的东西干啥？拖延找下家就行了
你如果知道别人的工作量，你就列个表清楚的比较出来。不要用下结论的话，就例举出事实。
反正你都要走了，就用事实证明一下自己的正确。
你觉得这是个事他就是，这种情况你作为目击者都可以告公司Toxic Working Environment,但是yell这个其实是灰色定义，当事人可以各种辩解说自己不是
分配工作不公平和yell 是两码事，不管什么起因，公司条例是不能在公开场合行为不Professional，所以你需要咬定不是yelling, 只是想问清情况，声音或许有点大为了让别人听清，但是不是指责或者威胁
不需要心理医生吧，就找普通的医生告诉他你焦虑睡不着觉，看一下anxiety的症状。
自觉走人。 很多华人网上口嗨，张开就是找hr找律师告eeoc，其实现实怂的一逼。没有白纸黑色确凿的越线铁证，你什么办法也没有。这种帖子这两年在local老美为主的parent group里见过不少，基本都是劝move on，因为老美可是真去找过律师file过eeoc的，最后就是个人力难以和资本抗衡。 你还是得想想自己下一步怎么走，面对现实，看看还让不让你干了，让你干的话，你还干不干。不干了你就可以恶心老板了，送std，给顶头上司写大字报，去hr告状，成不成都让老板走几次流程。老板在老板的老板那里也有stack rank，如果你成功地把大老板恶心到了，你和老板可能会一起打包滚蛋