People v. Berry Citation. 18 Cal. 3d 509,556 P.2d 777, 134 Cal. Rptr. 415,1976 Cal. Brief Fact Summary. Defendant was convicted of murdering his wife. Defendant alleged that he killed in the heat of passion and thus should only be found guilty of manslaughter. Facts. Defendant was found guilty of murder in the first degree. Defendant’s victim was his wife. The day before her death, he strangled her and she was treated at a hospital. Defendant told a friend of his that he had killed his wife by strangling her. Defendant argued he was only guilty of manslaughter because he had felt a sudden and uncontrollable rage. Defendant said that his wife had taunted him for weeks alleging she wanted a divorce and that she was in love with another man.Issue. Whether Defendant possessed the requisite intent for the crime he was convicted of Discussion. The Court found persuasive Defendant’s testimony documenting two weeks of taunting and abuse he sustained from his wife. The Court found that evidence of infidelity and taunts of such could be sufficient to constitute a heat of passion killing. The Court also ruled that Defendant did not have an opportunity to ‘cool down’ and rather, that the final interaction between Defendant and his victim catalyzed the sudden, uncontrollable rage that Defendant killed in.
过失杀人罪在加州最多判5年。其实是4年,但他打得比较厉害再加一年。而且表现好可以减刑,而且等审判的时间也可以算服刑。陈是2024年进去的,因为是初犯,又是好大学毕业。3年就可假释。乐观估计,他2027年就可以回四川老家过年了。希望他回国后,可以吸取教训吧。他那么年轻,值得second chance, 重头再来。
唯一的变化就是。如果检察院可以说服陪审团陈立仁他是被前女友教唆的话,那他就要服刑再多久一点。因为这变成预谋了。不过目前看来,陈立仁前女友还是蛮配合陈立仁的。
法官可能受贿或者立场问题,量刑畸轻都有可能。 反而只有在中国网络舆论才有用,网民群情激愤法官就不敢判太轻; 受害者家属如果坚持不谅解、要求重判 ,也不能判太轻了。
“你这是在写法律分析,还是在写犯罪分子重返社会的梦想剧本?”
首先,他杀了人,无论是冲动还是失控,命没了就是没了。你这一整篇分析就像在写《高墙内的成长故事》,却一字不提受害者是谁、家属怎么了——请问你的“公平正义”是只对加害人开放的吗?
其次,把“初犯”“大学生”“表现好”当成洗白的资本,是不是下一步就要说“他小时候作文还得过奖”了?美国的法律讲求证据、程序和责任,不是拿来感动法官和洗网友眼泪的。
还有你最后那句“前女友还是蛮配合他的”,这已经恶心到我不想挑词了。人命关天的案子,你在这儿写得像重温校园爱情剧,是不是搞错剧本了?
总结一下:你这位“律师朋友”,怕不是 AI 写手,专门负责产出“受害者缺位、加害者洗白”的模板。建议你转行写《浪子回头指南》,别再侮辱网友的智商了。
值得个头,监狱他都不deserve, 应该直接下地狱
这就说得通为什么前女友一口咬死不会和他复合。一旦有复合的想法性质就不一样了。律师们厉害啊
利用精神病,前女友做局,脱罪,这些律师没良心。 陈出狱后,会不会去找前女友算账?前女友不怕吗?
就看法医和检方是不是给力和认真负责了。
这是亲友团吧
说人渣值得second chance的,肯定是水军或者本身就是和人渣一样的恶魔
我想知道第二次机会是谁给? 如果类似的人一遇到压力口角就控制不住自己情绪 给他交往的人都得小心翼翼 因为是个炸弹不知道什么时候炸了把命收了
问题是个20年的老id,还不是马甲
从目前公开的证据与司法程序来看,这起案件 很可能会以一级谋杀罪定罪,但具体的判决结果与量刑长度仍要取决于陪审团裁定和法官量刑。不过,我们可以根据目前已知的信息和加州的法律制度进行合理预测:
--- ⚖️ 加州对一级谋杀的法律规定
根据加州刑法第187条与第190条: 一级谋杀(First-degree murder):通常指蓄意、有预谋的杀人行为。 若被定罪,有三种可能的惩罚:
1. 25年到终身监禁,不得假释(25-to-life) 2. 终身监禁不得假释(life without parole) 3. 死刑(Death penalty) —— 但加州目前虽然法律保留死刑,但2025年仍暂停执行。
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🧩 本案关键证据分析
1. 动机与情感冲突充分 有婚姻矛盾与婚外情相关证据; 被害人曾发现其与前女友的信件,显示家庭关系紧张。
2. 杀人过程极其残忍 使用钝器和刀具,现场血迹严重; 控方称其“杀死受害者后清理尸体并更换衣服”,涉嫌试图掩盖犯罪。
3. 案发后行为可视为认罪 他在案发现场“跪地、举手、说自己杀了她”; 被控时未拒捕,某种程度上承认了行为。
4. 存在前科或施虐历史迹象 控方称其在前段关系中曾有情绪操控与隐瞒行为,可能强化“控制欲”与谋杀动机。
5. 精神状态辩护可能效果不大 虽然案发后有“自残”和“精神崩溃”的表现,但目前无证据表明他有法定意义上的“精神疾病”可作无罪辩护。
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🔮 预测判决与量刑可能性
结果 概率 理由
一级谋杀 + 无期徒刑不得假释 ★★★★☆(70%) 有预谋且极其残忍,案情重大,符合法官重判倾向。 一级谋杀 + 25年到终身监禁 ★★★☆☆(25%) 若辩方成功强调其无前科、精神崩溃或情绪失控,可能争取到可假释选项。 谋杀罪降低为二级 ★☆☆☆☆(5%) 除非辩方能证明他是因一时冲动或精神障碍,不太可能发生。 死刑 ★☆☆☆☆(1%) 加州虽保留死刑,但政治与司法实践上基本不执行。
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📌 总结:
除非辩方能极其有力地提出其精神失常或行为非预谋,否则大概率是:
> 一级谋杀 + 无期徒刑,不得假释。
也就是说,陈立人很可能 终身不得假释地被关押在加州高安监狱,直至自然死亡。
美国人比较有同情心的,又是亚男杀死亚女,陈立人肯定不会被轻判。
呵呵 留着给前女友回收呗。
判5年? 太轻了吧? 以后谁都可以去杀人了。。。
真的,这楼主这些话,看得我好愤怒
明明白白的反讽文啊,洗什么白
这种杀人只判4,5年?这么轻?下次我也试试
04年的id发这种贴 图什么呢?
居然有人要给他一个机会!
你怎么说的出值得second chance的?你有心吗?
望我祖国公正的公检法机关, 以故意杀人罪 , 给他第二次被绳之以法的机会! 咱们死刑不是摆设
Chris watts是我在隔壁贴引用的案列 不一样 而且事后他还有去oil field,不和警方坦白等一些列操作
前女友是涉案人员 什么叫把前女友拖出来
这个和Chris Watts的案子根本不一样 这个案子也没有kids involved 还是那句话 我国法治道路长远
你那叫原始社会
问得好。
他不是咣一下失手打死对方的,而是多次反复暴击对方,过程血腥,说明凶手及其残暴,对弱者毫无恻隐之心,目的是置对方于死地。
这种人放出来就是一个行走的变态暴徒,而且给了社会一个非常恶劣的示范。
你是只知道Chris Watts这一个案子吗 这个案子还是我在隔壁楼引用的
所以审问前女友的都是一样的案子了?川普的案子没有审问前女友的?这是一回事儿吗?
People v. Berry Citation. 18 Cal. 3d 509,556 P.2d 777, 134 Cal. Rptr. 415,1976 Cal.
Brief Fact Summary. Defendant was convicted of murdering his wife. Defendant alleged that he killed in the heat of passion and thus should only be found guilty of manslaughter.
Facts. Defendant was found guilty of murder in the first degree. Defendant’s victim was his wife. The day before her death, he strangled her and she was treated at a hospital. Defendant told a friend of his that he had killed his wife by strangling her. Defendant argued he was only guilty of manslaughter because he had felt a sudden and uncontrollable rage. Defendant said that his wife had taunted him for weeks alleging she wanted a divorce and that she was in love with another man.Issue. Whether Defendant possessed the requisite intent for the crime he was convicted of
Discussion. The Court found persuasive Defendant’s testimony documenting two weeks of taunting and abuse he sustained from his wife. The Court found that evidence of infidelity and taunts of such could be sufficient to constitute a heat of passion killing. The Court also ruled that Defendant did not have an opportunity to ‘cool down’ and rather, that the final interaction between Defendant and his victim catalyzed the sudden, uncontrollable rage that Defendant killed in.
Chris可没有一拳拳把对方虐杀致死。丁立人的暴行天怒人怨,在法官和陪审团眼里都是无法容忍的。 现在是在往一级谋杀上面靠,所以至少会是二级谋杀。判刑至少15年,但是我觉得会不止。看法医报告结果吧。如果受害者被打了很多拳被虐致死,他估计得终身监禁。
检方基本应该都是用这方面起诉的 但是你看我上面的案例 最后是可以reduce为manslaughter的 检方不太可能用manslaughter起诉吧 麻烦多看几遍我上面贴的案例
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多读几遍我贴的案列
说得好!