这种事最适合先让AI支招。这是chatgpt的回应: 这种情况属于clear-cut case of gross negligence(严重疏忽责任),你在法律和消费者权益上拥有更强力的维权渠道和补偿依据。 🇺🇸 在美国你可以怎么做? ✅ 一、你可以提出以下正式诉求: 全额退款/换车(lemon law 或重大缺陷适用) 额外经济赔偿(精神损害、交通阻断、时间损失等) 延长质保 + 终身免费保养/维修保障(如果你愿意保留车辆) 书面道歉 + 整个事故过程和责任认定书(防止他们甩锅或未来再出问题) ⚠️ 二、这不是“simple mistake”,而是:
Negligent Maintenance Leading to Imminent Threat to Life and Property(维护失误导致对生命财产的直接威胁)
在美国,这种行为可能面临: 赔偿责任(civil liability) 被举报至State Automotive Repair Bureau(州机动车维修管理局) 若造成人员伤亡,可能还触犯criminal negligence(刑事过失) 📍三、你可以这样升级处理(escalate): 1. 向品牌总部投诉 在官网或客服电话找到Customer Relations or Escalation Department,说明你已经有严重安全事故,要求上升到高级管理层或区域代表处理。 2. 向州政府监管部门投诉 不同州有不同的投诉机构,比如: 州投诉机构关键词: 加州Bureau of Automotive Repair (BAR) 德州Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation 纽约New York DMV Consumer Complaints 佛州Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services 它还可以帮你写投诉信。
小影子 发表于 2025-05-16 16:10 直接找律师。车行给你说的这些有存证最好。电话录音也行。律师会跟你分成,直接告车行。他们的liability insurance会赔付。保险里有一项是专门针对车行的liability of your work/completed operation。律师会叫你去做体检(包括心理检查)。
If a wheel almost fell off because the lug nuts were not tightened, this is a serious safety issue, and your vehicle could have sustained hidden damage even if nothing appears broken at first glance. Here's a detailed checklist of what must be inspected: 🔧 Critical Parts to Inspect 1. Wheel Studs (or Lug Bolts)Check for: Bending, stretching, stripping, or cracking. Why: Loose lug nuts can cause the studs to deform or shear off. Fix: Replace any compromised studs immediately — they are cheap but critical. 2. Wheel (Rim)Check for: Elongated or damaged bolt holes, cracks, warping. Why: A loose wheel can wobble, which can permanently deform the rim. Fix: Replace if damaged; avoid reusing a deformed wheel. 3. Brake Rotor or DrumCheck for: Grooving, scoring, uneven wear, or impact damage. Why: A wobbling wheel can create irregular brake contact or warp the rotor. Fix: Resurface or replace if damaged. 4. Wheel Hub and Bearing AssemblyCheck for: Noise, free play, or roughness when rotating. Why: If the wheel wobbled severely, it may have damaged the hub or prematurely worn out the bearing. Fix: Replace hub/bearing if there's any looseness or grinding. 5. Suspension ComponentsCheck for: Control armsBall jointsTie rodsStrut mountsWhy: A loose or detached wheel can yank on suspension parts and throw alignment out. Fix: Replace any bent or worn parts. 6. AlignmentCheck for: Uneven tire wear, steering pull, or off-center steering wheel. Why: If the wheel was moving erratically, your alignment could be off. Fix: Perform a professional 4-wheel alignment check. 7. TireCheck for: Sidewall damage, unusual wear, or internal belt damage. Why: The tire may have been pinched or stressed under movement. Fix: Replace the tire if any damage is visible or suspected. 🧰 What to Tell the Shop Let the mechanic or service shop know: Which wheel was affected (front/rear, driver/passenger side) How far you drove with the issue What symptoms occurred (shaking, noise, loss of control)
我遇到过类似的事,命大没出车祸。。第一天下午去换刹车还有连带的部件。好像有个什么东西卸不下来,折腾了3个小时才完事。当天local开了些路,孩子也坐车上。第二天一早送孩子上学后,发现一踩刹车车子就咯噔跳一下。只好打着双闪开到一个修车铺。那家检查发现后面轮子处只有一个bolt,他们把车子全面检查了一下,加上missing的bolt 确认没有问题。technician说,you could have been killed 😣 自从那次 我没再去第一家修车铺
Ogre 发表于 2025-05-16 21:46 If a wheel almost fell off because the lug nuts were not tightened, this is a serious safety issue, and your vehicle could have sustained hidden damage even if nothing appears broken at first glance. Here's a detailed checklist of what must be inspected: 🔧 Critical Parts to Inspect 1. Wheel Studs (or Lug Bolts)Check for: Bending, stretching, stripping, or cracking. Why: Loose lug nuts can cause the studs to deform or shear off. Fix: Replace any compromised studs immediately — they are cheap but critical. 2. Wheel (Rim)Check for: Elongated or damaged bolt holes, cracks, warping. Why: A loose wheel can wobble, which can permanently deform the rim. Fix: Replace if damaged; avoid reusing a deformed wheel. 3. Brake Rotor or DrumCheck for: Grooving, scoring, uneven wear, or impact damage. Why: A wobbling wheel can create irregular brake contact or warp the rotor. Fix: Resurface or replace if damaged. 4. Wheel Hub and Bearing AssemblyCheck for: Noise, free play, or roughness when rotating. Why: If the wheel wobbled severely, it may have damaged the hub or prematurely worn out the bearing. Fix: Replace hub/bearing if there's any looseness or grinding. 5. Suspension ComponentsCheck for: Control armsBall jointsTie rodsStrut mountsWhy: A loose or detached wheel can yank on suspension parts and throw alignment out. Fix: Replace any bent or worn parts. 6. AlignmentCheck for: Uneven tire wear, steering pull, or off-center steering wheel. Why: If the wheel was moving erratically, your alignment could be off. Fix: Perform a professional 4-wheel alignment check. 7. TireCheck for: Sidewall damage, unusual wear, or internal belt damage. Why: The tire may have been pinched or stressed under movement. Fix: Replace the tire if any damage is visible or suspected. 🧰 What to Tell the Shop Let the mechanic or service shop know: Which wheel was affected (front/rear, driver/passenger side) How far you drove with the issue What symptoms occurred (shaking, noise, loss of control)
之前送车去保养,结果拿回车后第二天路上开车突然车不对劲猛的下沉,还有奇怪声响,于是赶紧打闪灯停车,有点不知所措,结果还没等我下车,我后面那辆车的司机跑来跟我说我轮子要掉了,叫我不要再开了。我下车检查才发现左后轮本来5个bolts只有一个在,其他压根都是空的!轮子也是从原本应该在的位置歪出来,快要掉了。于是赶紧打电话给4s店说要送回去,然后又打给roadside assistance找拖车,等了一个多小时,期间还得在马路上指挥交通让后面的车绕行。
后来拖车司机来了,直跟我说 god loves you,上个他拖的类似问题轮子掉出来的事故,严重到翻车无人生还。吓得我一身冷汗,因为我之前保养拿完车以后,还带着我女儿开过一段40多分钟的高速!
后来4s店的老板说是他们technician的问题,之前只上了一个bolt,说把那个人开除了,然后说我的车已经又全面检修了一下,没问题了让我开回去并归还loaner car。于是现在问题就来了,我已经对他们失去信任了,也不敢再开那辆车了,而且他们目前除了口头道歉,声称全面检修了我那辆车以外,没有其他任何下文。我这车拿回来,我也后怕不敢开了,尤其我大多数都是载小孩。请问这种情况下我可以提出诉求让他给我换一辆车吗?不过问题是,就算他换了,我也不信任了,谁知道换的车有没有问题。。。
而且我很奇怪的是,为什么会出这种问题?车保养维修难道完全就是一个技师的责任吗?车出库难道不应该有严格的QA吗?还是说他们车行的process有问题?我接下来要怎么escalate呢?
不可能换车,move on吧。最多就不去那家保养。
其次,你可以找律师应该让他们赔你租车钱,误工钱,精神损失等等等等,都算有理由和说法。
你直接要求换新车,有碰瓷嫌疑。
这种情况属于clear-cut case of gross negligence(严重疏忽责任),你在法律和消费者权益上拥有更强力的维权渠道和补偿依据。 🇺🇸 在美国你可以怎么做? ✅ 一、你可以提出以下正式诉求: 全额退款/换车(lemon law 或重大缺陷适用) 额外经济赔偿(精神损害、交通阻断、时间损失等) 延长质保 + 终身免费保养/维修保障(如果你愿意保留车辆) 书面道歉 + 整个事故过程和责任认定书(防止他们甩锅或未来再出问题) ⚠️ 二、这不是“simple mistake”,而是: 在美国,这种行为可能面临: 赔偿责任(civil liability) 被举报至State Automotive Repair Bureau(州机动车维修管理局) 若造成人员伤亡,可能还触犯criminal negligence(刑事过失) 📍三、你可以这样升级处理(escalate): 1. 向品牌总部投诉 在官网或客服电话找到Customer Relations or Escalation Department,说明你已经有严重安全事故,要求上升到高级管理层或区域代表处理。 2. 向州政府监管部门投诉 不同州有不同的投诉机构,比如: 州投诉机构关键词: 加州Bureau of Automotive Repair (BAR) 德州Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation 纽约New York DMV Consumer Complaints 佛州Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services
它还可以帮你写投诉信。
美国现在飞机不能坐了, 车不能开了 服务也没有了 简直全面拉跨。
dealer
唉,连dealer都这样,想想汽修小店的下限会多低
真的是这样,还得自己上心,然后指出来后他们也不当回事
车在现代人生活太重要了,不管男女都得有一些最基本的常识,维修维护之后,出门之前一定要检查一下。
人家只是习惯了用4s代指 dealer罢了,咋地在中国拖车司机会下来说God loves you?
为什么不能叫4S店?你管得是不是有点宽了
没有实际损失的律师一般不会接,因为赔偿会非常有限
冷知识:机修工基本都是川粉。这就是他们说的honest labor work
美国人都说eat,惊奇地发现这里总有人说吃饭,吃饭关美国人啥事儿?
机油箱如果是空的,汽车一启动,仪表盘上就会亮起机油警告灯。mechanic连这都看不到?
用机油标尺测一下。新换的机油看起来清亮透明,像水一样,而旧的机油有明显的黄褐色。
换没换你可以通过dipstick看看油的颜色,另外你要过一阵通过dipstick看看油位。
想想波音飞机门,不奇怪
国内叫4S店,我们叫dealer…
re 我觉得wheel stud也可能会弯,全都换掉,刹车片刹车盘有没有错位?
全面,我也想过里面提到的大部分,不过毕竟轮子没脱落,也许大部分不会受影响?这样是跟那个轮子有关的一切都得换了。
这是chatgpt给的,至少应该另找个店,好好检查一下,然后让原来的dealership该换的换,该修的修。都不是很难修的问题,换车就不必了。
你可以看心理医生评估心理创伤 找律师告 这个事故很严重
系统没那么聪明 车里放把torque wrench 车铺拿车时查一下每个轮子的lug nut
不能说任何这里不好的话 没说让你回去就不错了
得看是啥时候问你的 你要是刚去就问肯定没换 要是等了一段时间是可能的 放油换油滤然后加新机油前来问你
有可能hub都不行了 还是得仔细检查一下
电车坏了更麻烦 修起来贵麻烦 还可能要等很久
scamming shitty service store.
自己买个torque wrench拧 不贵,二三十块就能买一个 两三分钟把每个lug nut都查一遍
曾经在 Discount tire 那边做四轮对调,开回家后才想起来查看一下轮子的螺丝有没有给拧上,结果发现一个轮子漏了一个螺丝,赶紧跑回店里让店小二重新拧上,另外把所有其它的螺丝都拧紧了一下
还真得自己长长心,不然被这些 technician祸害
我觉得tire rotation 根本就是多余的。不如提前一年换轮胎。
dealer
diy all the time
sb
那他们不会是故意的吧?
你要去找律师,律师会指导你到指定医生那里做心理鉴定。
然后把你哪天去的dealer保养和后来哪天发现问题再去找他们承认都和律师说清楚了,一般来说,Dealer很难承认是自己没拧好那么多螺丝,所以他们承认的话应该是修车部有录像赖不掉才会承认。很可能当时就是为了把你对付走,你人一走他们立刻就删录像然后不承认。你找了律师再回去时很可能他们会说录像没问题就覆盖掉了这种说辞。
一切找律师为准,你的案子打不赢律师不会接,他们有很多经验,接不接就能看出案子能不能赢。
另一条路就是有的人给你提的建议,找经理找总部社会曝光