Wow this is really serious 高志凯访谈提到中美核战争

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楼主 (北美华人网)

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https://www.youtube.com/embed/NA9pTqZ3NYU?si=eLHe45jhdQLZt_vw First of all, China''s rise is inevitable.
No one can stop it. The United States cannot stop it. That''s the mega trend.
Secondly, this trade war launched by President Trump and his government against the whole world, including China, is the wrong war.
It''s not constructive.
It throws all the rules of the game out of the window.
It damages the free trade.
And while different countries need to come up with strategies—how do they want to deal with the United States in this manhandling of mankind—China has decided to rise up to the occasion and strongly defend the free trade.
China will fight to the end, as the government has declared, and China has now imposed the retaliatory tariff, up to 125 % against all U.S. exports to China.
Now, if things are not handled well, this means complete stop of China-U.S. trade—both ways.
No goods exported from the United States to China, and complete stop of everything made in China to the United States.
This is decoupling.
If the United States wants to really welcome this, China will reciprocate, and—causing the breakup of China-U.S. relations.
Whether this will evolve from peace to war—well, let''s all be prepared.
In essence, what China now declares is that it is prepared to fight to the end—trade war, tariff war, technology war, or real war.
So, the ball is in Trump''s court.
You decide, and I will reciprocate.
I will never succumb to the U.S. pressure.
And this is the moment of truth.
China wants to defend free trade.
The United States wants to destroy free trade.
The rest of the world is watching, and there will be a choice by the end of the day."
"Doing business is fine, but doing business by holding a gun at your head is not acceptable.
Not to China, probably not to everyone else.
Different countries may have different views about what the United States is doing, and it wants to tailor-make its response accordingly—that''s fine.
But for China, you cannot hold a gun to China''s head, and issue ultimatum, and demand all the impossibilities, for example, and ask China to swallow that.
China is the country that values dignity, and decency, and honor more than economic gains or economic losses.
So, if you want to hold a gun at China''s head, China will hold a gun at your head.
If you want to strike China in the cheek, China will strike you back.
That''s the decision and the determination of the Chinese nation.
This is not belligerency.
This is the minimum decency you need to apply to international relations.
How can you demand other countries:
I will slap you in the face, don''t slap me back, otherwise I will punish you more?
That''s the law of the jungle."
[But does China really have the power to be that sort of bold against the US? They have a much bigger defense budget.]
"Let me assure you one thing: I studied arms control and deterrence at graduate school, political science department.
By today, China and the United States can both destroy each other and cause Armageddon for mankind.
China wants to pursue peace.
The United States is advocating for war—tariff war, trade war, technology war, talent war, and possibly a perverse version of the proxy war, or cold war, or hot war.
China wants to promote peace of all kinds.
Now, for your benefit, China is the largest trading partner with more than 140 countries in the world.
Can you believe it?
We''ve dealt with countries of all kinds—different sizes, different conditions—and we treat them equal, big or small.
And China wants to pursue peace.
China wants to be the barrier—stand the barrier—of free trade.
Now that the United States abandons free trade and uses bullying and intimidation to force other countries to follow its line of thinking—no, this is not what China wants to do, and China will not accept that.
This is the moment of truth.
Who is the standard bearer of free trade?"
[Dr. Gao, the US may not be declaring war on China, but Vice President J.D. Vance recently said—to make it a little more crystal clear—I''m quoting here, "We borrow money from Chinese peasants to buy the things those Chinese peasants manufacture." So it''s maybe not a declaration of war, but it''s certainly not a show of respect to another global leader. Is this how a world superpower should behave?]
"Well, J.D. Vance and I went to the same law school—Yale Law School. I was 20 years ahead of him.
I''m ashamed by what J.D. Vance said because he kept talking about the Chinese peasants, Chinese peasants, etc.
Let me make that simple point: the urban population in China is about three times as big as the total population in the United States.
The middle class in China is more than the total number of the people in the United States.
So if J.D. Vance comes to China, he could barely find a peasant at all, because he will see the urban population.
And by today, China is one of the leading industrialized nations in the world.
Now, talking about intellectual property—let me emphasize one point very briefly.
China now has more patents approved every year than the United States.
China is a leading nation of protecting IPR.
So no more use of those misinformation or mislabeling to describe China.
China is a fierce defender of the intellectual property rights—for its own good, for mankind''s good.
And the United States has accused China of intellectual theft for something which it does not even have.
And Huawei now has more powerful intellectual property rights, creating more wonderful, miraculous products than anything that the United States can dream about.
So if you want to talk about IPR, we can spend an hour talking about IPR.
But let''s talk back about this trade war.
The trade war launched by Trump is wrong.
It''s the wrong war.
It''s the war against mankind.
China is fighting back, and China views this as the moment of defending open trade and free trade.
Like [Robert] Lighthizer, even said, ''No trade is free.''
That means his mind and his soul are not free. He''s suffering from demons. He''s suffering from all these ulterior motivations.
In China, we advocate free trade.
China is the largest trading partner with more than 140 countries in the world.
This is convincing evidence that by practicing free trade, China is number one in terms of international trade with the rest of the world."
"Talking about the military budget.
The U.S. military budget is larger than the next 10 countries'' military budgets combined.
So the United States has a lot of military budget, a lot of equipment, etc. That’s for sure.
Now, the point I want to make is that if you can destroy the world 1,000 times versus, for example, if you can have the world destroyed 10 times—there is not a lot of difference.
Now, in the world of the nuclear age, mutually assured destruction is the rule of the game.
Between China and the United States, they have already reached mutually assured destruction.
If any country wants to use war as an instrument to achieve its geopolitical goals, both China and the United States can destroy each other multiple times, regardless of whether the United States has a larger budget or otherwise.
Therefore, from the Chinese view, the world in the future—according to my personal dream, for example—should be a world of peace.
A world where every country will be treated equally. Every country respects each other. And no country will be allowed to dominate against any other country.
MAGA, or ''Make America Great Again,'' is fine.
But you cannot achieve that at the expense of other countries.
You cannot achieve your greatness by belittling, by delegating, or relegating other countries to the lowest echelon of the hierarchy.
Every country has its ambition.
Every country wants to be the first front, first row, for example.
And no country should be allowed to trample rules of free trade, to trample international order, and to dictate to others, to issue ultimatums, to hold a gun at your head, to demand submission to ''my will.''
This is the law of the jungle.
And China will never have a part of that.
And China will fight to death to oppose that."
"Everyone knows that the United States has the largest, if not one of the two largest, nuclear arsenals in the world.
And China''s warheads, added up together, only account for a fraction of that of the United States.
That''s number one.
Number two. In terms of conventional weapons, China is a complete match against the United States.
And China does not want to look at its neighboring countries—we have 14 land neighboring countries, we have six maritime neighboring countries—no one is a match against China.
China’s military buildup, if it is real, is basically to prevent the United States from using war as an instrument.
Try to surprise China and try to wrestle China down, or to delay China, to derail China''s peaceful rise—that''s the only purpose.
China is making sure that the American gets the message:
If you want to impose war on China, you get war.
If you want to destroy China, you get destroyed.
If you want to bomb China out with nuclear weapons, you will be wiped out with nuclear weapons.
That''s the mutually assured destruction theory—the MAD theory—that everyone in the Pentagon, everyone in Washington, D.C., should fully know about.
China is not going to be pushed around.
And China will fight to the end, one way or another.
Peacefully or otherwise.
So, the choice is in Washington.
China wants to be a partner of the United States—rather than being a slave of the United States, or being a subordinate of the United States."
"Since the end of the Cold War in 1991, how many wars has the United States been involved in? The world knows. If the Americans pretend not to know, the world knows.
How many wars has China been involved in? Zero.
Let me emphasize—zero.
This is the track record of China defending peace.
And that is the track record of the United States being involved in war after war after war.
So I think, while the American policymakers in Washington may pretend that they don''t know the truth, mankind as a whole knows about the truth.
They know China today is the most important stabilizing force in the world. Washington is the most disruptive force in the world.
China stands for peace.
The United States is eager to use war to solve its geopolitical problems in one region after another.
No one can hide away from the hard truth and hard data.
That is the world we are faced with.
China wants to promote peace.
China wants to promote peace with the United States.
But if the United States dares to impose war—any kind of war: tariff war, trade war, technological war, Cold War, proxy war, hot war—China will fight back.
That''s not belligerence.
That''s the Chinese people''s determination to anyone trying to impose war on China."
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claireliu
高不代表政府吧,他好像是自己搞的智库,consulting这类的。
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WernerCA
claireliu 发表于 2025-04-17 12:29
高不代表政府吧,他好像是自己搞的智库,consulting这类的。

但是他可以代表部分政府的观点,而且政府也可以借他的口来讲一些在政府层面不能讲的话。甚至用他来试探其它国家对某些激进政策的反应来决定是否实施。就像共和党大选前把Project 2025通过一些他们的智库发布在网上,来测试大众的接受程度。
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wormcc
看完整个完整的interview,高没有之前看片段的时候表现得那么好,太急太多口号
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Namama

还是那句话,先造3000发ICBM压压惊。。。 然后再谈别的。。
美国人看不懂别的,但ICBM他们看得懂。。
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shenandoah1
唉,现在这世界没有安全的角落。之前美国有砖家公开建议对中国主动使用核武器,不知道对中国的500-1000颗核弹头做何准备。
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/in-depth-research-reports/report/deliberate-nuclear-use-in-a-war-over-taiwan-scenarios-and-considerations-for-the-united-states/ Deliberate nuclear use in a war over Taiwan: Scenarios and considerations for the United States
The United States should consider nuclear first use if conventional forces cannot stop a Chinese invasion force from reaching Taiwan.
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ccs007
能不能把“China defends free trade”改成”china defends it’s national interest”?, which I totally support.
汪警长的一天
shenandoah1 发表于 2025-04-17 17:41
唉,现在这世界没有安全的角落。之前美国有砖家公开建议对中国主动使用核武器,不知道对中国的500-1000颗核弹头做何准备。
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/in-depth-research-reports/report/deliberate-nuclear-use-in-a-war-over-taiwan-scenarios-and-considerations-for-the-united-states/ Deliberate nuclear use in a war over Taiwan: Scenarios and considerations for the United States
The United States should consider nuclear first use if conventional forces cannot stop a Chinese invasion force from reaching Taiwan.

美国重返亚洲军演,都只敢在南太平洋夏威夷附近了…啥专家这么厉害?老是想用window98干掉window10
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jellynsyrup
唉,现在这世界没有安全的角落。之前美国有砖家公开建议对中国主动使用核武器,不知道对中国的500-1000颗核弹头做何准备。
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/in-depth-research-reports/report/deliberate-nuclear-use-in-a-war-over-taiwan-scenarios-and-considerations-for-the-united-states/ Deliberate nuclear use in a war over Taiwan: Scenarios and considerations for the United States
The United States should consider nuclear first use if conventional forces cannot stop a Chinese invasion force from reaching Taiwan.
shenandoah1 发表于 2025-04-17 17:41

首先,核武器不看数量,要发动大家一起死。其次,中国有hypersonic missiles,全世界只有中俄两国有,美国没有,这就是美国国防部长说每次推演中美战争都是中国赢的原因。更别说中国有更先进的战斗机,还有美国望尘莫及的军工生产力。
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ca563
shenandoah1 发表于 2025-04-17 17:41
唉,现在这世界没有安全的角落。之前美国有砖家公开建议对中国主动使用核武器,不知道对中国的500-1000颗核弹头做何准备。
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/in-depth-research-reports/report/deliberate-nuclear-use-in-a-war-over-taiwan-scenarios-and-considerations-for-the-united-states/ Deliberate nuclear use in a war over Taiwan: Scenarios and considerations for the United States
The United States should consider nuclear first use if conventional forces cannot stop a Chinese invasion force from reaching Taiwan.

所以高这里谈不上主动威胁,就是警告,怕华盛顿头脑发热,想不清楚。
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ca563
汪警长的一天 发表于 2025-04-17 18:04
美国重返亚洲军演,都只敢在南太平洋夏威夷附近了…啥专家这么厉害?老是想用window98干掉window10

人家不是说了吗?常规武器不行了,只能consider上核武了
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pululu
美国要么做好真的脱钩准备,要么就别大嘴巴。结果只会灭自家威风。
ca563 发表于 2025-04-17 19:11
所以高这里谈不上主动威胁,就是警告,怕华盛顿头脑发热,想不清楚。

高强调了好多遍,中国爱好和平,希望全世界和平。但是中国不惧怕战争,中美之间可以相互摧毁,可以终结整个世界,美国的确有世界上最大的武器库和军费,但是摧毁世界1000次和摧毁10次没区别。我觉得回答的言之有物,条理清晰,不卑不亢,比万斯之流强100倍
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liulaolao
wormcc 发表于 2025-04-17 16:19
看完整个完整的interview,高没有之前看片段的时候表现得那么好,太急太多口号

我觉得他讲的一直不好,感觉总是气急败坏的样子 坦率地说,中国这几个有名的,活跃的学者,真还不能言之有物,有据, 感觉总体上没有自己的东西,理解的不够深,缺乏历史的角度, 这个还不是因为语言的问题
南开阿飞
liulaolao 发表于 2025-04-17 20:02
我觉得他讲的一直不好,感觉总是气急败坏的样子 坦率地说,中国这几个有名的,活跃的学者,真还不能言之有物,有据, 感觉总体上没有自己的东西,理解的不够深,缺乏历史的角度, 这个还不是因为语言的问题

我觉得你有点气急败坏
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Tinoy03
我也看了视频。高的讲话内容更加有依据,就是急切了点。也能理解。 Abrams 还是那一套老套的指责。
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Adolf
ca563 发表于 2025-04-17 19:13
人家不是说了吗?常规武器不行了,只能consider上核武了

感觉核武也不一定能打得过土工,毕竟土工对这种大杀器,肯定会精心谋略。
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proletariate
liulaolao 发表于 2025-04-17 20:02
我觉得他讲的一直不好,感觉总是气急败坏的样子 坦率地说,中国这几个有名的,活跃的学者,真还不能言之有物,有据, 感觉总体上没有自己的东西,理解的不够深,缺乏历史的角度, 这个还不是因为语言的问题

高明显比美国这个学者有知识储备,光看高关于菲律宾历史的发言明显搞的对方无可反驳
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shenandoah1
Adolf 发表于 2025-04-17 20:16
感觉核武也不一定能打得过土工,毕竟土工对这种大杀器,肯定会精心谋略。

打肯定是“打得过”的,美国和俄罗斯都有足够的核武器把全球灭好几次,包括自己。只是为什么要这么做呢?
怕就怕有人觉得这样的大杀器,可以利用一下,来换来一点利益。
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suwa
苏美冷战高峰时核弹头数量,苏联四万对美国三万。后来双方都觉得太多了,一直削减到今天8千对六千。一年前俄罗斯威胁核弹报复,美国高调核临界试爆,宣布全面更新核弹头计划。美国核弹头主要设计单位是UCB管理下的Los alamos national lab 和 LLNL,核弹头翻新保养在橡树岭国家实验室,启爆测试在Sands,头几名超级计算机都在这几家国家实验室。如意需要,美国或俄罗斯可以在短时间内核武翻倍。
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Namama
liulaolao 发表于 2025-04-17 20:02
我觉得他讲的一直不好,感觉总是气急败坏的样子 坦率地说,中国这几个有名的,活跃的学者,真还不能言之有物,有据, 感觉总体上没有自己的东西,理解的不够深,缺乏历史的角度, 这个还不是因为语言的问题


感觉主要还是英文表达的问题 高也好,张维为也好,表达方式和用词还是太学术,不够直接,不够接地气。。。 比起李世默,Kishore Mahbubani之类的,还是差了蛮大一截。。
这方面三哥外长S. Jaishankar 真是战斗力爆表。。 新加坡高层的那几个也都水平很好。。 中国这方面人才太少了。。
汪警长的一天
醒醒吧,超过12000公里全程洲际导弹,直播加公布数据的,试射成功的只有中国~看去年的新闻啊!这玩意还是钱学森弹道,不可拦截,在南太平洋精准炸点后,美国军方也不像以前,谴责中国霸权在南海试射导弹,只说了中方做的合乎规范,很好…美国去年,川普当选试射的半程洲际,就没成功
汪警长的一天
有点常识好吧,弹头多也比不上导弹射程远,射的准,不可拦截有震慑力和威力…八千弹头,导弹却射的近,弹程就是抛物线好拦截,精度低,发射成功率低,好多直接地基井爆炸,有什么用?你们居然还评论高讲得好不好?这都是拼实力的,不像印度拼嘴炮。两边都知道彼此军队实力,美军方就是很怂啊…
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liulaolao
Namama 发表于 2025-04-18 00:41

感觉主要还是英文表达的问题 高也好,张维为也好,表达方式和用词还是太学术,不够直接,不够接地气。。。 比起李世默,Kishore Mahbubani之类的,还是差了蛮大一截。。
这方面三哥外长S. Jaishankar 真是战斗力爆表。。 新加坡高层的那几个也都水平很好。。 中国这方面人才太少了。。

非母语肯定有弱势, 更重要的是对西方文化和政治的了解和理解,包括不需要完全否定他们,深入了解他们的优点,在某些地方可以认可他们
也应当更冷静的看看我们政治可能存在的问题,做到心中有数,不必从完美的角度去辩护,不必辩护完美,这样就容易陷入被动
我看了一些习近平本人的官方讲话(在旧金山晚宴,我觉得讲的最好的),感觉也比他们这几个讲的有说服力,有理有据,站在历史,文化,还有哲学的高度和深度下
我也觉得李世默好多了,Kishore 更好一些
3哥外长,没有听过。不过,3哥这个情况,他的外长讲的再好,但他们里子不行,不过徒增笑耳;中国不一样,我们的里子很好,但是讲不好自己的故事,没有把自己的故事讲好。


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Yuangungun
liulaolao 发表于 2025-04-18 07:54
非母语肯定有弱势, 更重要的是对西方文化和政治的了解和理解,包括不需要完全否定他们,深入了解他们的优点,在某些地方可以认可他们
也应当更冷静的看看我们政治可能存在的问题,做到心中有数,不必从完美的角度去辩护,不必辩护完美,这样就容易陷入被动
我看了一些习近平本人的官方讲话(在旧金山晚宴,我觉得讲的最好的),感觉也比他们这几个讲的有说服力,有理有据,站在历史,文化,还有哲学的高度和深度下
我也觉得李世默好多了,Kishore 更好一些
3哥外长,没有听过。不过,3哥这个情况,他的外长讲的再好,但他们里子不行,不过徒增笑耳;中国不一样,我们的里子很好,但是讲不好自己的故事,没有把自己的故事讲好。



可以分享几个讲的好的视频吗?我觉得高讲的很不错啊。不过如果有更好的我也想学习下。
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Rusteze
迷糊的兔子 发表于 2025-04-17 12:25

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https://www.youtube.com/embed/NA9pTqZ3NYU?si=eLHe45jhdQLZt_vw First of all, China''s rise is inevitable.
No one can stop it. The United States cannot stop it. That''s the mega trend.
Secondly, this trade war launched by President Trump and his government against the whole world, including China, is the wrong war.
It''s not constructive.
It throws all the rules of the game out of the window.
It damages the free trade.
And while different countries need to come up with strategies—how do they want to deal with the United States in this manhandling of mankind—China has decided to rise up to the occasion and strongly defend the free trade.
China will fight to the end, as the government has declared, and China has now imposed the retaliatory tariff, up to 125 % against all U.S. exports to China.
Now, if things are not handled well, this means complete stop of China-U.S. trade—both ways.
No goods exported from the United States to China, and complete stop of everything made in China to the United States.
This is decoupling.
If the United States wants to really welcome this, China will reciprocate, and—causing the breakup of China-U.S. relations.
Whether this will evolve from peace to war—well, let''s all be prepared.
In essence, what China now declares is that it is prepared to fight to the end—trade war, tariff war, technology war, or real war.
So, the ball is in Trump''s court.
You decide, and I will reciprocate.
I will never succumb to the U.S. pressure.
And this is the moment of truth.
China wants to defend free trade.
The United States wants to destroy free trade.
The rest of the world is watching, and there will be a choice by the end of the day."
"Doing business is fine, but doing business by holding a gun at your head is not acceptable.
Not to China, probably not to everyone else.
Different countries may have different views about what the United States is doing, and it wants to tailor-make its response accordingly—that''s fine.
But for China, you cannot hold a gun to China''s head, and issue ultimatum, and demand all the impossibilities, for example, and ask China to swallow that.
China is the country that values dignity, and decency, and honor more than economic gains or economic losses.
So, if you want to hold a gun at China''s head, China will hold a gun at your head.
If you want to strike China in the cheek, China will strike you back.
That''s the decision and the determination of the Chinese nation.
This is not belligerency.
This is the minimum decency you need to apply to international relations.
How can you demand other countries:
I will slap you in the face, don''t slap me back, otherwise I will punish you more?
That''s the law of the jungle."
[But does China really have the power to be that sort of bold against the US? They have a much bigger defense budget.]
"Let me assure you one thing: I studied arms control and deterrence at graduate school, political science department.
By today, China and the United States can both destroy each other and cause Armageddon for mankind.
China wants to pursue peace.
The United States is advocating for war—tariff war, trade war, technology war, talent war, and possibly a perverse version of the proxy war, or cold war, or hot war.
China wants to promote peace of all kinds.
Now, for your benefit, China is the largest trading partner with more than 140 countries in the world.
Can you believe it?
We''ve dealt with countries of all kinds—different sizes, different conditions—and we treat them equal, big or small.
And China wants to pursue peace.
China wants to be the barrier—stand the barrier—of free trade.
Now that the United States abandons free trade and uses bullying and intimidation to force other countries to follow its line of thinking—no, this is not what China wants to do, and China will not accept that.
This is the moment of truth.
Who is the standard bearer of free trade?"
[Dr. Gao, the US may not be declaring war on China, but Vice President J.D. Vance recently said—to make it a little more crystal clear—I''m quoting here, "We borrow money from Chinese peasants to buy the things those Chinese peasants manufacture." So it''s maybe not a declaration of war, but it''s certainly not a show of respect to another global leader. Is this how a world superpower should behave?]
"Well, J.D. Vance and I went to the same law school—Yale Law School. I was 20 years ahead of him.
I''m ashamed by what J.D. Vance said because he kept talking about the Chinese peasants, Chinese peasants, etc.
Let me make that simple point: the urban population in China is about three times as big as the total population in the United States.
The middle class in China is more than the total number of the people in the United States.
So if J.D. Vance comes to China, he could barely find a peasant at all, because he will see the urban population.
And by today, China is one of the leading industrialized nations in the world.
Now, talking about intellectual property—let me emphasize one point very briefly.
China now has more patents approved every year than the United States.
China is a leading nation of protecting IPR.
So no more use of those misinformation or mislabeling to describe China.
China is a fierce defender of the intellectual property rights—for its own good, for mankind''s good.
And the United States has accused China of intellectual theft for something which it does not even have.
And Huawei now has more powerful intellectual property rights, creating more wonderful, miraculous products than anything that the United States can dream about.
So if you want to talk about IPR, we can spend an hour talking about IPR.
But let''s talk back about this trade war.
The trade war launched by Trump is wrong.
It''s the wrong war.
It''s the war against mankind.
China is fighting back, and China views this as the moment of defending open trade and free trade.
Like [Robert] Lighthizer, even said, ''No trade is free.''
That means his mind and his soul are not free. He''s suffering from demons. He''s suffering from all these ulterior motivations.
In China, we advocate free trade.
China is the largest trading partner with more than 140 countries in the world.
This is convincing evidence that by practicing free trade, China is number one in terms of international trade with the rest of the world."
"Talking about the military budget.
The U.S. military budget is larger than the next 10 countries'' military budgets combined.
So the United States has a lot of military budget, a lot of equipment, etc. That’s for sure.
Now, the point I want to make is that if you can destroy the world 1,000 times versus, for example, if you can have the world destroyed 10 times—there is not a lot of difference.
Now, in the world of the nuclear age, mutually assured destruction is the rule of the game.
Between China and the United States, they have already reached mutually assured destruction.
If any country wants to use war as an instrument to achieve its geopolitical goals, both China and the United States can destroy each other multiple times, regardless of whether the United States has a larger budget or otherwise.
Therefore, from the Chinese view, the world in the future—according to my personal dream, for example—should be a world of peace.
A world where every country will be treated equally. Every country respects each other. And no country will be allowed to dominate against any other country.
MAGA, or ''Make America Great Again,'' is fine.
But you cannot achieve that at the expense of other countries.
You cannot achieve your greatness by belittling, by delegating, or relegating other countries to the lowest echelon of the hierarchy.
Every country has its ambition.
Every country wants to be the first front, first row, for example.
And no country should be allowed to trample rules of free trade, to trample international order, and to dictate to others, to issue ultimatums, to hold a gun at your head, to demand submission to ''my will.''
This is the law of the jungle.
And China will never have a part of that.
And China will fight to death to oppose that."
"Everyone knows that the United States has the largest, if not one of the two largest, nuclear arsenals in the world.
And China''s warheads, added up together, only account for a fraction of that of the United States.
That''s number one.
Number two. In terms of conventional weapons, China is a complete match against the United States.
And China does not want to look at its neighboring countries—we have 14 land neighboring countries, we have six maritime neighboring countries—no one is a match against China.
China’s military buildup, if it is real, is basically to prevent the United States from using war as an instrument.
Try to surprise China and try to wrestle China down, or to delay China, to derail China''s peaceful rise—that''s the only purpose.
China is making sure that the American gets the message:
If you want to impose war on China, you get war.
If you want to destroy China, you get destroyed.
If you want to bomb China out with nuclear weapons, you will be wiped out with nuclear weapons.
That''s the mutually assured destruction theory—the MAD theory—that everyone in the Pentagon, everyone in Washington, D.C., should fully know about.
China is not going to be pushed around.
And China will fight to the end, one way or another.
Peacefully or otherwise.
So, the choice is in Washington.
China wants to be a partner of the United States—rather than being a slave of the United States, or being a subordinate of the United States."
"Since the end of the Cold War in 1991, how many wars has the United States been involved in? The world knows. If the Americans pretend not to know, the world knows.
How many wars has China been involved in? Zero.
Let me emphasize—zero.
This is the track record of China defending peace.
And that is the track record of the United States being involved in war after war after war.
So I think, while the American policymakers in Washington may pretend that they don''t know the truth, mankind as a whole knows about the truth.
They know China today is the most important stabilizing force in the world. Washington is the most disruptive force in the world.
China stands for peace.
The United States is eager to use war to solve its geopolitical problems in one region after another.
No one can hide away from the hard truth and hard data.
That is the world we are faced with.
China wants to promote peace.
China wants to promote peace with the United States.
But if the United States dares to impose war—any kind of war: tariff war, trade war, technological war, Cold War, proxy war, hot war—China will fight back.
That''s not belligerence.
That''s the Chinese people''s determination to anyone trying to impose war on China."

听了这个interview,最大的感想就是和二十年前的美国相比,现在的美国太悲哀了,包括这个interview里面的美国人,美国已经失去了和中国正面竞争商品生产和R&D的信心,只剩下了各种threating和各种whining,和川普现在做的一样,这多半是作为世界唯一的superpower的后遗症,美国已经习惯了别人来kiss ass,忘记了怎么respect别人,尤其是respect你的对手。尤其是这个interview里面的美国人,各种diss中国,各种强词夺理,完全是美国得病世界吃药的强盗逻辑,美国太悲哀了,美国的衰落很可能是overnight的,因为美国人的傲慢和强盗逻辑。